William Deincourt 6th Lord Deincourt, 13th Lord d'Eyncourt1,2

M, #10381, d. 5 September 1422
FatherJohn Deincourt 5th Lord Deincourt, 12th Lord d'Eyncourt1,3 d. 1422
MotherJoane Grey2,3 b. c 20 Jul 1386, d. 20 Nov 1408
Last Edited1 Oct 2019
     William Deincourt 6th Lord Deincourt, 13th Lord d'Eyncourt married Elizabeth Beaumont, daughter of Sir Henry de Beaumont 5th Lord Beaumont, K.B. and Elizabeth Willoughby, on 3 January 1418;
Her 1st husband.4,5,3
William Deincourt 6th Lord Deincourt, 13th Lord d'Eyncourt died on 5 September 1422; dsp.2,3
     ; "William, 13th Lord d'Eyncourt ... This nobleman, who was also in right of his mother, Baron Grey of Rotherfield, m. Elizabeth, sister of Viscount Beaumont, but d. s. p. in 1422, 1st Henry VI., leaving Alice (Mr. Tennyson's ancestor), aged eighteen, and Margaret, aged seventeen, his sister and co-heirs ..."2

Reference: Genealogics cites:
     1. The Complete Peerage, 1936 , Doubleday, H.A. & Lord Howard de Walden. IV 125
     2. Europäische Stammtafeln, J.A. Stargardt Verlag, Marburg, Schwennicke, Detlev (Ed.) 3:685.3

Family

Elizabeth Beaumont d. Jul 1447

Citations

  1. [S1396] Burke's Peerage & Gentry Web Site, online http://www.burkes-peerage.net/sites/peerageandgentry/sitepages/home.asp, Zouche Family Page. Hereinafter cited as Burke's Peerage & Gentry Web Site.
  2. [S1429] Unknown compiler, Notable British Families 1600s-1900s from Burke's Peerage., CD-ROM (n.p.: Broderbund Software Company, 1999), Notable British Families, Burke's "Dormant, Abeyant, Forfeited, and Extinct Peerages" (Gen. Pub. Co., Baltimore, 1985 reprint of 1883 edition), D'Eyncourt - Barons D'Eyncourt, p. 170. Hereinafter cited as Notable British Families CD # 367.
  3. [S1490] Genealogics Website (oiginated by Leo van de Pas, continued by Ian Fettes), online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, William Deincourt, of Duston: https://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00161615&tree=LEO. Hereinafter cited as Genealogics Website.
  4. [S1438] Miroslav Marek, online http://genealogy.euweb.cz/index.html, unknown author (e-mail address), downloaded updated 15 May 2003, Brienne 2 page: http://genealogy.euweb.cz/brienne/brienne2.html
  5. [S1490] Genealogics Website, online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Elizabeth Beaumont: https://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00108726&tree=LEO

Joan Beaumont1,2,3

F, #10382, d. 5 August 1466
FatherJohn Beaumont KG, 6th Lord & 1st Viscount Beaumont1,2,3,4 b. 1409, d. 10 Jul 1459
MotherElizabeth Phelip2,3
Last Edited28 Nov 2012
     Joan Beaumont married John Lovel 8th Lord Lovel of Titchmarsh, 5th Lord Holand, son of William Lovel 7th Lord Lovel of Titchmarsh, 4th Lord Holand and Alice Deincourt Baroness d'Eyncourt and Grey, of Rotherfield; her 1st husband.1,2,5,3,6 Joan Beaumont married Sir William Stanley after 11 November 1465; her 2nd husband.3
Joan Beaumont died on 5 August 1466.7,3
     ; JOAN Beaumont (sis of 2nd and last Viscount Beaumont, who was also 7th Lord (Baron) Beaumont of the March 1308/9 cr; see BEAUMONT, Bt); m 1st John LOVEL, 8th Lord (Baron) Lovel, and d 5 Aug 1466, having had, with other issue, including a dau (Frideswide, m Sir Edward Norreys and had issue; see LINDSEY and ABINGDON, E.)7

Family 1

John Lovel 8th Lord Lovel of Titchmarsh, 5th Lord Holand b. c 1433, d. bt 9 Jan 1464 - 1465
Children

Citations

  1. [S1396] Burke's Peerage & Gentry Web Site, online http://www.burkes-peerage.net/sites/peerageandgentry/sitepages/home.asp, Zouche Family Page. Hereinafter cited as Burke's Peerage & Gentry Web Site.
  2. [S1429] Unknown compiler, Notable British Families 1600s-1900s from Burke's Peerage., CD-ROM (n.p.: Broderbund Software Company, 1999), Notable British Families, Burke's Dromant, ABeyant, Forgeited, and Extinct Peerages, p. 37. Hereinafter cited as Notable British Families CD # 367.
  3. [S1438] Miroslav Marek, online http://genealogy.euweb.cz/index.html, unknown author (e-mail address), downloaded updated 15 May 2003, Brienne 2 page: http://genealogy.euweb.cz/brienne/brienne2.html
  4. [S1490] Genealogics Website (oiginated by Leo van de Pas, continued by Ian Fettes), online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, John Beaumont: http://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00108611&tree=LEO. Hereinafter cited as Genealogics Website.
  5. [S1429] Notable British Families, Notable British Families CD # 367, Burke's "Dormant, Abeyant, Forfeited, and Extinct Peerages" (Gen. Pub. Co., Baltimore, 1985 reprint of 1883 edition), D'Eyncourt - Barons D'Eyncourt, p. 171.
  6. [S1490] Genealogics Website, online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, John Lovel: http://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00161612&tree=LEO
  7. [S1396] Burke's Peerage & Gentry Web Site, online http://www.burkes-peerage.net/sites/peerageandgentry/sitepages/home.asp, Norfolk Family Page.
  8. [S1490] Genealogics Website, online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Frideswide Lovel: http://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00348552&tree=LEO
  9. [S1490] Genealogics Website, online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Francis Lovel: http://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00139308&tree=LEO

Sir John de Ferrers Knt., de jure 4th Lord Ferrers of Chartley1,2,3

M, #10383, b. 10 August 1331, d. 3 April 1367
FatherSir Robert de Ferrers 3rd Lord Ferrers of Chartley1,2,4,5 b. 25 Mar 1309, d. 28 Aug 1350
MotherAgnes de Bohun2,5 b. c 1314, d. c 1343
ReferenceGKJ20
Last Edited25 Dec 2013
     Sir John de Ferrers Knt., de jure 4th Lord Ferrers of Chartley was born on 10 August 1331 at Southoe, Huntingdonshire, England.6,2,3 He married Lady Elizabeth Stafford, daughter of Sir Ralph de Stafford KG, KB, 2nd Earl of Stafford and Margaret de Audley Baroness Audley suo jure, after 19 October 1349; her 2nd husband; date of license.7,8,1,9,10,2,3,11
Sir John de Ferrers Knt., de jure 4th Lord Ferrers of Chartley died on 3 April 1367 at Najera, La Rioja, Spain, at age 35; died in battle.6,1,9,2,3
     ; van de Pas cites: The Complete Peerage, 1936 , Doubleday, H.A. & Lord Howard de Walden, Reference: V 313.2 GKJ-20.

; "John de Ferrers, 3rd Baron Ferrers, of Chartley, but never summoned to parliament. This nobleman was in the wars of Gascony in the 33rd Edward III. His lordship m. Elizabeth, dau. of Ralph, 1st Earl of Stafford, and widow of Fulke, Lord Strange of Blackmere, and dying beyond the seas, 2 April, 1367, was s. by his son, Robert de Ferrers, 4th Baron Ferrers, of Chartley..."1

Sir John de Ferrers Knt., de jure 4th Lord Ferrers of Chartley lived at Chartley, Staffordshire, England.7

; Faris (1999, p. 137) "JOHN DE FERRERS, Knt., of Chartley, co. Stafford, son and heir of Robert de Ferrers, Knt., of Chartley (of Magna Carta Surety descent and descendant of Charlemagne), by his first wife Margaret. He was born at Southoe, co. Huntingdon, on or about 10 Aug. 1331. He fought in France 1359-1360. He revived the claim to the old estates forfeited by his great-grandfather, Robert, Earl of Derby, and petitioned the Duke of Lancaster to restore them to him, but without success. SIR JOHN DE FERRERS [4th Lord Ferrers of Chartley de jure] died aged thirty-six beyond seas, being slain at the battle of Nájera on 3 Apr. 1367."6,12 He was 4th Lord Ferrers of Chartley. He was 3rd Lord (Baron) Ferrers of Chartley between 1333 and 1367.1

Family

Lady Elizabeth Stafford b. c 1337, d. 7 Aug 1375
Child

Citations

  1. [S1429] Unknown compiler, Notable British Families 1600s-1900s from Burke's Peerage., CD-ROM (n.p.: Broderbund Software Company, 1999), Notable British Families, Burke's "Dormant, Abeyant, Forfeited, and Extinct Peerages" (Gen. Pub. Co., Baltimore, 1985 reprint of 1883 edition), Ferrers - Barons Ferrers of Chartley, p. 199. Hereinafter cited as Notable British Families CD # 367.
  2. [S1490] Genealogics Website (oiginated by Leo van de Pas, continued by Ian Fettes), online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, John de Ferrers: http://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00177555&tree=LEO. Hereinafter cited as Genealogics Website.
  3. [S2261] Douglas Richardson, Plantagenet Ancestry: A Study in Colonial and Medieval Families, 1st edition (n.p.: Genealogical Publishing Company, Inc., 2004), Ferrers 10: pp. 308-309. Hereinafter cited as Richardson PA.
  4. [S1490] Genealogics Website, online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Sir Robert de Ferrers: http://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00177552&tree=LEO
  5. [S2261] Douglas Richardson, Richardson PA, Ferrers 9: p. 308.
  6. [S632] Frederick Lewis Weis, Ancestral Roots of Certain American Colonists Who Came to America before 1700: The Lineage of Alfred the Great, Charlemagne, Malcolm of Scotland, Robert the Strong, and Some of Their Descendants, 7th edition (n.p.: Genealogical Publishing Co., Inc.
    Baltimore, 1992, unknown publish date), line 61-33, p. 66. Hereinafter cited as Weis AR-7.
  7. [S673] David Faris, Plantagenet Ancestry of Seventeenth-Century Colonists: The Descent from the Later Plantagenet Kings of England, Henry III, Edward I, and Edward III, of Emigrants from England and Wales to the North American Colonies before 1701, English Ancestry Series, Volume 1, Second Edition (Boston, MA: New England Historic Genealogical Society, 1999), p. 137. Hereinafter cited as Faris [1999] - Plantagenet Ancestry.
  8. [S1396] Burke's Peerage & Gentry Web Site, online http://www.burkes-peerage.net/sites/peerageandgentry/sitepages/home.asp, Saint Davids Family Page. Hereinafter cited as Burke's Peerage & Gentry Web Site.
  9. [S2261] Douglas Richardson, Richardson PA, Cobham 10: p. 223.
  10. [S1490] Genealogics Website, online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Elizabeth Stafford: http://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00028784&tree=LEO
  11. [S2371] Douglas Richardson, Plantagenet Ancestry: A Study in Colonial and Medieval Families, 2nd edition (n.p.: n.pub., 2011), Vol III: Stafford 8.iii: p. 249. Hereinafter cited as Richardson [2011] Plantagenet Ancestry.
  12. [S673] David Faris, Faris [1999] - Plantagenet Ancestry, p. 137: "of Magna Carta Surety descent and descendant of Charlemagne."
  13. [S1490] Genealogics Website, online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Robert de Ferrers: http://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00140923&tree=LEO

William de Colvile1

M, #10384
FatherPhilip de Colvile2
ReferenceGAV28
Last Edited7 Apr 2004
     William de Colvile married Maude (?)1
     ; "William de Colvile, one of the barons who took up arms against John, and was excommunicated by the Pope. This William, being taken prisoner at the battle of Lincoln, in the 1st Henry III, his wife Maude had safe conduct to the king, to treat for his liberation, and having accomplished her object, obtained a royal precept to William, Earl of Albemarle, for the restoration of her husbands castle at Birham, co. Lincoln."1

William de Colvile lived at Birham, Lincolnshire, England.1 GAV-28.

Citations

  1. [S1429] Unknown compiler, Notable British Families 1600s-1900s from Burke's Peerage., CD-ROM (n.p.: Broderbund Software Company, 1999), Notable British Families, Burke's "Dormant, Abeyant, Forfeited, and Extinct Peerages" (Gen. Pub. Co., Baltimore, 1985 reprint of 1883 edition), Colvile - Barons Colvile, p. 130. Hereinafter cited as Notable British Families CD # 367.
  2. [S1429] Notable British Families, Notable British Families CD # 367, Burke's "Dormant, Abeyant, Forfeited, and Extinct Peerages" (Gen. Pub. Co., Baltimore, 1985 reprint of 1883 edition), Colvile - Barons Colvile, pp. 129-130.

Sir Robert de Ferrers 3rd Lord Ferrers of Chartley1,2,3,4

M, #10385, b. 25 March 1309, d. 28 August 1350
FatherSir John de Ferrers 1st Lord Ferrers of Chartley, co. Salop2,5,6,4 b. 20 Jun 1271, d. c 17 Aug 1312
MotherHawise de Muscegros of Charlton, co. Somerset2,7,6,4 b. 21 Dec 1276, d. bt 24 Jun 1340 - 1353
ReferenceEDV19 GKJ20
Last Edited25 Dec 2013
     Sir Robert de Ferrers 3rd Lord Ferrers of Chartley was born on 25 March 1309 at Chartley, Staffordshire, England.8,4,3 He married Agnes de Bohun, daughter of Humphrey VIII de Bohun Lord Bohun, 4th Earl of Hereford and Essex, Baron of Kington and Elizabeth 'of Rhuddlan' (?) Princess of England, Countess of Holland, before 20 October 1330; his 1st wife.9,4,3 Sir Robert de Ferrers 3rd Lord Ferrers of Chartley married Joan de La Mote Lady of Willisham, daughter of Edmund de La Mote of Willisham, Suffolk and St. Pancras, Middlesex, before 1350; his 2nd wife.8,4,3
Sir Robert de Ferrers 3rd Lord Ferrers of Chartley died on 28 August 1350 at age 41.8,4,3
     He was 2nd Lord (Baron) Ferrers of Chartley.9,2 EDV-19 GKJ-20.

; "Robert de Ferrers, 2nd Baron Ferrers, of Chartley, summoned to parliament 25 February, 1342. This nobleman, who was of a martial character, served frequently in the Scotch and French wars of Henry III, and finally, the year before his decease, participated in the glorious victory of Cressy, (23rd Edward III [1349/50]) His lordwhip m. Agnes, dau. of Humphrey de Bohun, Earl of Hereford, by whom he had issue,
John his successor
Robert, summoned to parliament as Baron Ferrers, of Wemme
He d. in 1350, and was s. by his elder son, John de Ferrers, 3rd Baron Ferrers, of Chartley..."2

; van de Pas cites: 1. The Complete Peerage, 1936 , Doubleday, H.A. & Lord Howard de Walden, Reference: V 310
2. A Genealogical History of the dormant, abeyant, forfeited and extinct peerages of the British Empire, London, 1866, Burke, Sir Bernard, Reference: 199.4

Family 1

Agnes de Bohun b. c 1314, d. c 1343
Child

Citations

  1. [S1429] Unknown compiler, Notable British Families 1600s-1900s from Burke's Peerage., CD-ROM (n.p.: Broderbund Software Company, 1999), Notable British Families, Burke's "Dormant, Abeyant, Forfeited, and Extinct Peerages" (Gen. Pub. Co., Baltimore, 1985 reprint of 1883 edition), Ferrers - Barons Ferrers, of Wemme, co. Salop, p. 198. Hereinafter cited as Notable British Families CD # 367.
  2. [S1429] Notable British Families, Notable British Families CD # 367, Burke's "Dormant, Abeyant, Forfeited, and Extinct Peerages" (Gen. Pub. Co., Baltimore, 1985 reprint of 1883 edition), Ferrers - Barons Ferrers of Chartley, p. 199.
  3. [S2261] Douglas Richardson, Plantagenet Ancestry: A Study in Colonial and Medieval Families, 1st edition (n.p.: Genealogical Publishing Company, Inc., 2004), Ferrers 9: p. 308. Hereinafter cited as Richardson PA.
  4. [S1490] Genealogics Website (oiginated by Leo van de Pas, continued by Ian Fettes), online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Sir Robert de Ferrers: http://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00177552&tree=LEO. Hereinafter cited as Genealogics Website.
  5. [S1490] Genealogics Website, online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Sir John de Ferrers: http://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00177550&tree=LEO
  6. [S2261] Douglas Richardson, Richardson PA, Ferrers 8: pp. 307-308.
  7. [S1490] Genealogics Website, online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Hawise de Muscegros: http://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00177551&tree=LEO
  8. [S632] Frederick Lewis Weis, Ancestral Roots of Certain American Colonists Who Came to America before 1700: The Lineage of Alfred the Great, Charlemagne, Malcolm of Scotland, Robert the Strong, and Some of Their Descendants, 7th edition (n.p.: Genealogical Publishing Co., Inc.
    Baltimore, 1992, unknown publish date), line 61-32, p. 66. Hereinafter cited as Weis AR-7.
  9. [S633] With additions and corrections by Walter Lee Sheppard Jr. and William R. Beall Frederick Lewis Weis, The Magna Charta Sureties, 1215 : The Barons Named in the Magna
    Charta, 1215 and Some of Their Descendants Who Settled in America
    During the Early Colonial Years, 5th Edition
    (Baltimore, MD, USA: Genealogical Publishine Co., Inc., unknown publish date), line 102-6, p. 135. Hereinafter cited as Weis MCS-5.
  10. [S1490] Genealogics Website, online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, John de Ferrers: http://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00177555&tree=LEO
  11. [S2261] Douglas Richardson, Richardson PA, Boteler 11: p. 134.

Joan de La Mote Lady of Willisham1

F, #10386, d. 29 June 1375
FatherEdmund de La Mote of Willisham, Suffolk and St. Pancras, Middlesex1
ReferenceEDV19 GKJ20
Last Edited25 Dec 2013
     Joan de La Mote Lady of Willisham married Sir Robert de Ferrers 3rd Lord Ferrers of Chartley, son of Sir John de Ferrers 1st Lord Ferrers of Chartley, co. Salop and Hawise de Muscegros of Charlton, co. Somerset, before 1350; his 2nd wife.2,3,1
Joan de La Mote Lady of Willisham died on 29 June 1375 at London, City of London, Greater London, England.4,1
     EDV-19 GKJ-20.

Citations

  1. [S2261] Douglas Richardson, Plantagenet Ancestry: A Study in Colonial and Medieval Families, 1st edition (n.p.: Genealogical Publishing Company, Inc., 2004), Ferrers 9: p. 308. Hereinafter cited as Richardson PA.
  2. [S632] Frederick Lewis Weis, Ancestral Roots of Certain American Colonists Who Came to America before 1700: The Lineage of Alfred the Great, Charlemagne, Malcolm of Scotland, Robert the Strong, and Some of Their Descendants, 7th edition (n.p.: Genealogical Publishing Co., Inc.
    Baltimore, 1992, unknown publish date), line 61-32, p. 66. Hereinafter cited as Weis AR-7.
  3. [S1490] Genealogics Website (oiginated by Leo van de Pas, continued by Ian Fettes), online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Sir Robert de Ferrers: http://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00177552&tree=LEO. Hereinafter cited as Genealogics Website.
  4. [S632] Frederick Lewis Weis, Weis AR-7, line 61-32, p. 66; line 62-32, p. 66.
  5. [S2261] Douglas Richardson, Richardson PA, Boteler 11: p. 134.

Sir John de Ferrers 1st Lord Ferrers of Chartley, co. Salop1,2,3,4

M, #10387, b. 20 June 1271, d. circa 17 August 1312
FatherSir Robert de Ferrers Knt., 6th/8th Earl of Derby2,5,6 b. c 1239, d. b 27 Apr 1279
MotherAlianore/Eleanor (Agnes) de Bohun7,6 b. bt 1225 - 1247, d. 20 Feb 1313/14
ReferenceGAV19 EDV20
Last Edited25 Dec 2013
     Sir John de Ferrers 1st Lord Ferrers of Chartley, co. Salop was born on 20 June 1271 at Cardiff, Glamorganshire, Wales, England.8,4,3 He married Hawise de Muscegros of Charlton, co. Somerset, daughter of Sir Robert de Muscegros Knt., of Charlton, Lord of Deerhurst and Agnes de Ferrers, between 2 February 1298 and 13 September 1298; her 2nd husband; Racines et Histoire says m. ca 1299.9,2,3,4,10
Sir John de Ferrers 1st Lord Ferrers of Chartley, co. Salop died circa 17 August 1312 at Gascony, France.8,3
     GAV-19 EDV-20 GKJ-21.

; "John de Ferrers (only son of Robert de Ferrers, 8th and last Earl of Derby of that family), after the forfeiture of his father was summoned to parliament as Baron Ferrers of Chartley, co. Stafford, 6 February, 1299. (A seat which came into the family of Ferrers, by the marriage of William, 5th Earl of Derby, with Agnes, sister and co-heir of Ranulph, Earl of Chester.) This John, inheriting the turbulent spirit of his father, joined the Earl of Hertford and others, in the 25th Edward I, in opposing the collection of the subsidies granted by the parliament then held at St. Edmundsbury, to the crown, but the ferment was allayed by the king's confirming Magna Charta, and the charter of the Forests; and by declaring that in future no tax should be imposed upon the subject without the consent of parliament, at the same time granting a pardon to the disconteneted lords and their adherents, in which pardon John de Ferrers is especially named. Soon after this he petitioned Pope Nicholas III, that his holiness should interfere to procure him the lands of his late father which had been conferred upon Edmund, Earl of Lancaster, but his suit was ineffectual. He was subsequently in the Scottish wars, and was then raised to the peerage as stated above. His lordship m. Hawyse, dau. and heiress of Sir Robert de Muscegros, of Charlton, co. Somerset, by whom he acquired a great increase to his fortune. In the 34th Edward I, he was again in the wars of Scotland, and, subsequently, in the 4th Edward II, the year following which he was constituted seneschal of Aquitaine. He d. in 1324, and was s. by his son, Robert de Ferrers, 2nd Baron Ferrers, of Chartley..."2 He was 1st Lord Ferrers of Chartley on 6 February 1299.11,2

Citations

  1. [S1429] Unknown compiler, Notable British Families 1600s-1900s from Burke's Peerage., CD-ROM (n.p.: Broderbund Software Company, 1999), Notable British Families, Burke's "Dormant, Abeyant, Forfeited, and Extinct Peerages" (Gen. Pub. Co., Baltimore, 1985 reprint of 1883 edition), Ferrers - Barons Ferrers, of Wemme, co. Salop, p. 198. Hereinafter cited as Notable British Families CD # 367.
  2. [S1429] Notable British Families, Notable British Families CD # 367, Burke's "Dormant, Abeyant, Forfeited, and Extinct Peerages" (Gen. Pub. Co., Baltimore, 1985 reprint of 1883 edition), Ferrers - Barons Ferrers of Chartley, p. 199.
  3. [S2261] Douglas Richardson, Plantagenet Ancestry: A Study in Colonial and Medieval Families, 1st edition (n.p.: Genealogical Publishing Company, Inc., 2004), Ferrers 8: pp. 307-308. Hereinafter cited as Richardson PA.
  4. [S1490] Genealogics Website (oiginated by Leo van de Pas, continued by Ian Fettes), online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Sir John de Ferrers: http://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00177550&tree=LEO. Hereinafter cited as Genealogics Website.
  5. [S1490] Genealogics Website, online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Robert de Ferrers: http://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00139195&tree=LEO
  6. [S2261] Douglas Richardson, Richardson PA, Ferrers 7: p. 307.
  7. [S1490] Genealogics Website, online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Alianore de Bohun: http://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00139197&tree=LEO
  8. [S632] Frederick Lewis Weis, Ancestral Roots of Certain American Colonists Who Came to America before 1700: The Lineage of Alfred the Great, Charlemagne, Malcolm of Scotland, Robert the Strong, and Some of Their Descendants, 7th edition (n.p.: Genealogical Publishing Co., Inc.
    Baltimore, 1992, unknown publish date), line 57-31, p. 63. Hereinafter cited as Weis AR-7.
  9. [S632] Frederick Lewis Weis, Weis AR-7, line 189-5, p. 162.
  10. [S1490] Genealogics Website, online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Hawise de Muscegros: http://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00177551&tree=LEO
  11. [S633] With additions and corrections by Walter Lee Sheppard Jr. and William R. Beall Frederick Lewis Weis, The Magna Charta Sureties, 1215 : The Barons Named in the Magna
    Charta, 1215 and Some of Their Descendants Who Settled in America
    During the Early Colonial Years, 5th Edition
    (Baltimore, MD, USA: Genealogical Publishine Co., Inc., unknown publish date), line 57-5, p. 75. Hereinafter cited as Weis MCS-5.
  12. [S1863] John P. Ravilious, "Ravilious email #1 21 Jan 2005: "Lathom of Lathom (ca. 1175-1370)"," e-mail message from e-mail address (unknown address) to e-mail address, 21 Jan 2005. Hereinafter cited as "Ravilious email #1 21 Jan 2005."
  13. [S2371] Douglas Richardson, Plantagenet Ancestry: A Study in Colonial and Medieval Families, 2nd edition (n.p.: n.pub., 2011), Vol III: Stanley 9: p. 263. Hereinafter cited as Richardson [2011] Plantagenet Ancestry.
  14. [S1490] Genealogics Website, online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Sir Robert de Ferrers: http://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00177552&tree=LEO

Eleanor/Alianor de Ferrers1,2

F, #10388
FatherSir John de Ferrers 1st Lord Ferrers of Chartley, co. Salop3,1,2 b. 20 Jun 1271, d. c 17 Aug 1312
MotherHawise de Muscegros of Charlton, co. Somerset3,1,2 b. 21 Dec 1276, d. bt 24 Jun 1340 - 1353
ReferenceGAV18 GKJ20
Last Edited25 Dec 2013
     Eleanor/Alianor de Ferrers married Sir Thomas de Lathom Knt., of Lathom, co. Lancs., son of Sir Robert de Lathom of Lathom, co. Lancs. and Katherine Knowsley, before 21 May 1329.4,3,5,6,2
     GAV-18 GKJ-20.

Citations

  1. [S2261] Douglas Richardson, Plantagenet Ancestry: A Study in Colonial and Medieval Families, 1st edition (n.p.: Genealogical Publishing Company, Inc., 2004), Ferrers 8: pp. 307-308. Hereinafter cited as Richardson PA.
  2. [S2371] Douglas Richardson, Plantagenet Ancestry: A Study in Colonial and Medieval Families, 2nd edition (n.p.: n.pub., 2011), Vol III: Stanley 9: p. 263. Hereinafter cited as Richardson [2011] Plantagenet Ancestry.
  3. [S1863] John P. Ravilious, "Ravilious email #1 21 Jan 2005: "Lathom of Lathom (ca. 1175-1370)"," e-mail message from e-mail address (unknown address) to e-mail address, 21 Jan 2005. Hereinafter cited as "Ravilious email #1 21 Jan 2005."
  4. [S632] Frederick Lewis Weis, Ancestral Roots of Certain American Colonists Who Came to America before 1700: The Lineage of Alfred the Great, Charlemagne, Malcolm of Scotland, Robert the Strong, and Some of Their Descendants, 7th edition (n.p.: Genealogical Publishing Co., Inc.
    Baltimore, 1992, unknown publish date), line 57-32, p. 63. Hereinafter cited as Weis AR-7.
  5. [S2080] Hap Sutliff, "Sutliff email 8 June 2006 #2: "Re: Robert de Lathom 1254-1302 m. Katherine de Knowseligh 1261-?"," e-mail message from e-mail address (unknown address) to e-mail address, 8 June 2006. Hereinafter cited as "Sutliff email 8 June 2006 #2."
  6. [S2261] Douglas Richardson, Richardson PA, Ferrers 8.i: p. 308.
  7. [S632] Frederick Lewis Weis, Weis AR-7, line 57-31, p. 63.
  8. [S1490] Genealogics Website (oiginated by Leo van de Pas, continued by Ian Fettes), online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Sir Thomas de Lathom: http://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00107960&tree=LEO. Hereinafter cited as Genealogics Website.
  9. [S2371] Douglas Richardson, Richardson [2011] Plantagenet Ancestry, Vol III: Stanley 10: pp. 263-4.

Sir Thomas de Lathom Knt., of Lathom, co. Lancs.1,2

M, #10389, b. circa 1301, d. 17 September 1370
FatherSir Robert de Lathom of Lathom, co. Lancs.1,2 d. bt 28 Oct 1320 - 5 Oct 1328
MotherKatherine Knowsley1,3,2 d. a 1345
ReferenceGAV18 GKJ20
Last Edited25 Dec 2013
     Sir Thomas de Lathom Knt., of Lathom, co. Lancs. was born circa 1301; aged 24 in 1325.4,2 He married Eleanor/Alianor de Ferrers, daughter of Sir John de Ferrers 1st Lord Ferrers of Chartley, co. Salop and Hawise de Muscegros of Charlton, co. Somerset, before 21 May 1329.4,1,5,6,2
Sir Thomas de Lathom Knt., of Lathom, co. Lancs. died on 17 September 1370.4,1,2
Sir Thomas de Lathom Knt., of Lathom, co. Lancs. was buried after 17 September 1370 at Burscough Priory, Lancashire, England.5,2


     Sir Thomas de Lathom Knt., of Lathom, co. Lancs. lived at Lathom and Knowsley, Lancashire, England.7 GAV-18 GKJ-20.

; Sir Thomas de Lathom
Death: 17 Sep 1370[5],[6]
knt., of Lathom, co. Lancs.

Genealogics I00384760[7]

' Sir Thomas, Lord of Lathum ', witness to quitclaim dated at Altekarr, Wed. before St. Dennis Martyr, 2 Ed. III. [5 Oct. 1328]: 'Quitclaim: Richard son of Roger of Dounholand to the Abbey of Miravalle -- a messuage, mill, 3 ac. land, 100 ac. meadow, 300 ac. pasture, and 100 ac. wood in Altkarr, had from William de Ferrars, Earl of Derbeye -- Witn. Sir Thomas, Lord of Lathum, Sir Peter, Lord of Burnhill, Sir Robert, Lord of Scherbourn, Sir Richard, Lord of Hoghton, John the Norreys, Richard the Waleys, William of the Molineaux, William Blundel, Richard of Bolde, John of Horneby, William of Duddeleye. Given at Altekarr, Wed. before St. Dennis Martyr, 2 Ed. III.' - A2A, Lancashire Record Office: Clifton of Lytham, Deeds and Documents : Altcar, DDCL 3[2]

Spouse: Eleanor de Ferrers
Father: Sir John de Ferrers (1271-1312)
Mother: Hawise de Muscegros (1276->1340)
Marr: bef 21 May 1329[6]

Children: Sir Thomas de Lathom(-<1382)
Sir Edward de Lathom
Robert de Lathom, prior of Burscough

Ravilious cites:
2. "Access to Archives," http://www.a2a.pro.gov.uk/
5. Ed Mann, "Re: Isabel de Lathom," 24 Jan 1999, cites Weis, Ancestral Roots line 57-32, email EDLMANN@MAIL2.LCIA.COM
6. Frederick L. Weis, Th. D., "The Magna Carta Sureties, 1215," Baltimore: Gen Pub Co., 5th ed., 1997 (W. L. Sheppard Jr & David Faris).
7. "Genealogics," website by Leo van de Pas, www.genealogics.org cites Europäische Stammtafeln, J.A. Stargardt Verlag Marburg.,' Detlev Schwennicke, Editor, [ES], and other sources, ES VII 81, for Arnoul III, comte de Guines.1

Sir Thomas de Lathom Knt., of Lathom, co. Lancs. left a will in 1369.2

Citations

  1. [S1863] John P. Ravilious, "Ravilious email #1 21 Jan 2005: "Lathom of Lathom (ca. 1175-1370)"," e-mail message from e-mail address (unknown address) to e-mail address, 21 Jan 2005. Hereinafter cited as "Ravilious email #1 21 Jan 2005."
  2. [S2371] Douglas Richardson, Plantagenet Ancestry: A Study in Colonial and Medieval Families, 2nd edition (n.p.: n.pub., 2011), Vol III: Stanley 9: p. 263. Hereinafter cited as Richardson [2011] Plantagenet Ancestry.
  3. [S2079] Hap Sutliff, "Sutliff email 8 June 2006 #1: "Re: Robert de Lathom 1254-1302 m. Katherine de Knowseligh 1261-?"," e-mail message from e-mail address (unknown address) to e-mail address, 8 June 2006. Hereinafter cited as "Sutliff email 8 June 2006 #1."
  4. [S632] Frederick Lewis Weis, Ancestral Roots of Certain American Colonists Who Came to America before 1700: The Lineage of Alfred the Great, Charlemagne, Malcolm of Scotland, Robert the Strong, and Some of Their Descendants, 7th edition (n.p.: Genealogical Publishing Co., Inc.
    Baltimore, 1992, unknown publish date), line 57-32, p. 63. Hereinafter cited as Weis AR-7.
  5. [S2080] Hap Sutliff, "Sutliff email 8 June 2006 #2: "Re: Robert de Lathom 1254-1302 m. Katherine de Knowseligh 1261-?"," e-mail message from e-mail address (unknown address) to e-mail address, 8 June 2006. Hereinafter cited as "Sutliff email 8 June 2006 #2."
  6. [S2261] Douglas Richardson, Plantagenet Ancestry: A Study in Colonial and Medieval Families, 1st edition (n.p.: Genealogical Publishing Company, Inc., 2004), Ferrers 8.i: p. 308. Hereinafter cited as Richardson PA.
  7. [S633] With additions and corrections by Walter Lee Sheppard Jr. and William R. Beall Frederick Lewis Weis, The Magna Charta Sureties, 1215 : The Barons Named in the Magna
    Charta, 1215 and Some of Their Descendants Who Settled in America
    During the Early Colonial Years, 5th Edition
    (Baltimore, MD, USA: Genealogical Publishine Co., Inc., unknown publish date), line 103-6, p. 136. Hereinafter cited as Weis MCS-5.
  8. [S1490] Genealogics Website (oiginated by Leo van de Pas, continued by Ian Fettes), online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Sir Thomas de Lathom: http://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00107960&tree=LEO. Hereinafter cited as Genealogics Website.
  9. [S2371] Douglas Richardson, Richardson [2011] Plantagenet Ancestry, Vol III: Stanley 10: pp. 263-4.

Alianore/Eleanor (Agnes) de Bohun1,2,3,4

F, #10390, b. between 1225 and 1247, d. 20 February 1313/14
FatherSir Humphrey VI de Bohun Lord Bohun, châtelain de Winchester2 d. 27 Oct 1265
MotherEleanor de Braiose of Huntington, Brecon, Wales b. c 1225, d. 1275; Racines et Histoires says Alianore/Eleanor was the dau. of Maud de Lusignan or Eleanor de Braiose2
ReferenceGAV20 EDV21
Last Edited25 Dec 2013
     Alianore/Eleanor (Agnes) de Bohun was born between 1225 and 1247. She married Sir Robert de Ferrers Knt., 6th/8th Earl of Derby, son of William de Ferrers 5th Earl of Derby, 1st Earl of Westmoreland and Margaret de Quincy, on 26 June 1269; his 2nd wife.5,2,3,6,7,4
Alianore/Eleanor (Agnes) de Bohun died on 20 February 1313/14.5,3,2,4
     GAV-20 EDV-21 GKJ-22.

; van de Pas cites: The Complete Peerage, 1936 , Doubleday, H.A. & Lord Howard de Walden, Reference: IV 202.3

Family

Sir Robert de Ferrers Knt., 6th/8th Earl of Derby b. c 1239, d. b 27 Apr 1279
Children

Citations

  1. [S757] Compiled by Carl Boyer 3rd, Medieval English Ancestors of Certain Americans: Many of the English Ancestral Lines Prior to 1300 of those Colonial Americans with known Royal Ancestry but Fully Developed in all Possible Lines (PO Box 220333, Santa Clarita, CA 91322-0333: Carl Boyer 3rd, 2001), p. 35, de BOHUN 5:ii. Hereinafter cited as Boyer [2001] Med English Ancestors.
  2. [S2261] Douglas Richardson, Plantagenet Ancestry: A Study in Colonial and Medieval Families, 1st edition (n.p.: Genealogical Publishing Company, Inc., 2004), Ferrers 7: p. 307. Hereinafter cited as Richardson PA.
  3. [S1490] Genealogics Website (oiginated by Leo van de Pas, continued by Ian Fettes), online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Alianore de Bohun: http://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00139197&tree=LEO. Hereinafter cited as Genealogics Website.
  4. [S2280] Racines et Histoire, online http://racineshistoire.free.fr/LGN/LGN-frameset.html, http://racineshistoire.free.fr/LGN/PDF/Bohun.pdf, p. 3. Hereinafter cited as Racines et Histoire.
  5. [S632] Frederick Lewis Weis, Ancestral Roots of Certain American Colonists Who Came to America before 1700: The Lineage of Alfred the Great, Charlemagne, Malcolm of Scotland, Robert the Strong, and Some of Their Descendants, 7th edition (n.p.: Genealogical Publishing Co., Inc.
    Baltimore, 1992, unknown publish date), line 57-30, p. 63. Hereinafter cited as Weis AR-7.
  6. [S1490] Genealogics Website, online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Robert de Ferrers: http://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00139195&tree=LEO
  7. [S2261] Douglas Richardson, Richardson PA, Fitz Walter 5: p. 327.

Eleanor de Braiose of Huntington, Brecon, Wales1,2,3

F, #10391, b. circa 1225, d. 1275
FatherWilliam de Braiose 6th Baron de Braiose2,3 d. 2 May 1230
MotherEva (Eve) Marshal of Pembroke2,3 b. c 1206, d. b 1246
ReferenceGAV20 EDV21
Last Edited26 Dec 2013
     Eleanor de Braiose of Huntington, Brecon, Wales was born circa 1225.3 She married Sir Humphrey VI de Bohun Lord Bohun, châtelain de Winchester, son of Humphrey V de Bohun 2nd Earl of Hereford, Earl of Essex and Mahaut/Maud d'Eu de Lusignan, before 15 February 1247.4,1,2,3
Eleanor de Braiose of Huntington, Brecon, Wales died in 1275.3
     GAV-20 EDV-21 GKJ-21.

Family

Sir Humphrey VI de Bohun Lord Bohun, châtelain de Winchester d. 27 Oct 1265
Children

Citations

  1. [S757] Compiled by Carl Boyer 3rd, Medieval English Ancestors of Certain Americans: Many of the English Ancestral Lines Prior to 1300 of those Colonial Americans with known Royal Ancestry but Fully Developed in all Possible Lines (PO Box 220333, Santa Clarita, CA 91322-0333: Carl Boyer 3rd, 2001), p. 35, de BOHUN 5. Hereinafter cited as Boyer [2001] Med English Ancestors.
  2. [S1429] Unknown compiler, Notable British Families 1600s-1900s from Burke's Peerage., CD-ROM (n.p.: Broderbund Software Company, 1999), Notable British Families, Burke's Dromant, Abeyant, Forgeited, and Extinct Peerages, p. 57. Hereinafter cited as Notable British Families CD # 367.
  3. [S2280] Racines et Histoire, online http://racineshistoire.free.fr/LGN/LGN-frameset.html, http://racineshistoire.free.fr/LGN/PDF/Bohun.pdf, p. 3. Hereinafter cited as Racines et Histoire.
  4. [S632] Frederick Lewis Weis, Ancestral Roots of Certain American Colonists Who Came to America before 1700: The Lineage of Alfred the Great, Charlemagne, Malcolm of Scotland, Robert the Strong, and Some of Their Descendants, 7th edition (n.p.: Genealogical Publishing Co., Inc.
    Baltimore, 1992, unknown publish date), line 68-29, p. 69. Hereinafter cited as Weis AR-7.
  5. [S1490] Genealogics Website (oiginated by Leo van de Pas, continued by Ian Fettes), online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Margery de Bohun: http://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00177623&tree=LEO. Hereinafter cited as Genealogics Website.
  6. [S1490] Genealogics Website, online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Eleanor de Braose: http://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00139096&tree=LEO
  7. [S2261] Douglas Richardson, Plantagenet Ancestry: A Study in Colonial and Medieval Families, 1st edition (n.p.: Genealogical Publishing Company, Inc., 2004), Ferrers 7: p. 307. Hereinafter cited as Richardson PA.

Sir Robert de Muscegros Knt., of Charlton, Lord of Deerhurst1,2

M, #10392, b. circa 1252, d. 27 December 1280
FatherSir John de Muscegros of Charlton b. 10 Aug 1232, d. 8 May 1275
MotherCecily Avenal d. b 10 Aug 1301
ReferenceGAV20 EDV21
Last Edited25 Dec 2013
     Sir Robert de Muscegros Knt., of Charlton, Lord of Deerhurst was born circa 1252 at Bicknor, co. Kent, England; Racines et Histoire syas b. 1252/54.3 He married Agnes de Ferrers, daughter of William de Ferrers 5th Earl of Derby, 1st Earl of Westmoreland and Margaret de Quincy, in 1276 at Bicknor, co. Kent, England.1
Sir Robert de Muscegros Knt., of Charlton, Lord of Deerhurst died on 27 December 1280.
     GAV-20 EDV-21 GKJ-22.

Family

Agnes de Ferrers b. 1244, d. a 9 May 1281
Child

Citations

  1. [S1429] Unknown compiler, Notable British Families 1600s-1900s from Burke's Peerage., CD-ROM (n.p.: Broderbund Software Company, 1999), Notable British Families, Burke's "Dormant, Abeyant, Forfeited, and Extinct Peerages" (Gen. Pub. Co., Baltimore, 1985 reprint of 1883 edition), Ferrers - Earls of Derby, p. 197. Hereinafter cited as Notable British Families CD # 367.
  2. [S2261] Douglas Richardson, Plantagenet Ancestry: A Study in Colonial and Medieval Families, 1st edition (n.p.: Genealogical Publishing Company, Inc., 2004), Ferrers 8: pp. 307-308. Hereinafter cited as Richardson PA.
  3. [S632] Frederick Lewis Weis, Ancestral Roots of Certain American Colonists Who Came to America before 1700: The Lineage of Alfred the Great, Charlemagne, Malcolm of Scotland, Robert the Strong, and Some of Their Descendants, 7th edition (n.p.: Genealogical Publishing Co., Inc.
    Baltimore, 1992, unknown publish date), line 189-4, p. 162. Hereinafter cited as Weis AR-7.
  4. [S2261] Douglas Richardson, Richardson PA, Powick 8: pp. 590-1.

Sir John de Muscegros of Charlton

M, #10393, b. 10 August 1232, d. 8 May 1275
FatherSir Robert de Muscegros of Charlton, Somerset d. b 29 Jan 1253/54
MotherHawise (Helewise) Malet d. a 4 May 1287
ReferenceGAV21 EDV22
Last Edited25 Dec 2013
     Sir John de Muscegros of Charlton married Cecily Avenal, daughter of Sir William Avenal.1 Sir John de Muscegros of Charlton was born on 10 August 1232.1
Sir John de Muscegros of Charlton died on 8 May 1275 at age 42.1
     GAV-21 EDV-22 GKJ-23.

Family

Cecily Avenal d. b 10 Aug 1301
Child

Citations

  1. [S632] Frederick Lewis Weis, Ancestral Roots of Certain American Colonists Who Came to America before 1700: The Lineage of Alfred the Great, Charlemagne, Malcolm of Scotland, Robert the Strong, and Some of Their Descendants, 7th edition (n.p.: Genealogical Publishing Co., Inc.
    Baltimore, 1992, unknown publish date), line 189-3, p. 162. Hereinafter cited as Weis AR-7.

Cecily Avenal

F, #10394, d. before 10 August 1301
FatherSir William Avenal b. c 1202, d. b 21 Apr 1236
ReferenceGAV21 EDV22
Last Edited25 Dec 2013
     Cecily Avenal married Sir John de Muscegros of Charlton, son of Sir Robert de Muscegros of Charlton, Somerset and Hawise (Helewise) Malet.1
Cecily Avenal died before 10 August 1301.
     GAV-21 EDV-22 GKJ-23.

Family

Sir John de Muscegros of Charlton b. 10 Aug 1232, d. 8 May 1275
Child

Citations

  1. [S632] Frederick Lewis Weis, Ancestral Roots of Certain American Colonists Who Came to America before 1700: The Lineage of Alfred the Great, Charlemagne, Malcolm of Scotland, Robert the Strong, and Some of Their Descendants, 7th edition (n.p.: Genealogical Publishing Co., Inc.
    Baltimore, 1992, unknown publish date), line 189-3, p. 162. Hereinafter cited as Weis AR-7.

Sir William Avenal

M, #10395, b. circa 1202, d. before 21 April 1236
FatherRalph Avenal1
MotherMargaret (?)1
ReferenceGAV22 EDV23
Last Edited13 Aug 2002
     Sir William Avenal was born circa 1202.1
Sir William Avenal died before 21 April 1236.1
     GAV-22 EDV-23 GKJ-24.

Family

Child

Citations

  1. [S757] Compiled by Carl Boyer 3rd, Medieval English Ancestors of Certain Americans: Many of the English Ancestral Lines Prior to 1300 of those Colonial Americans with known Royal Ancestry but Fully Developed in all Possible Lines (PO Box 220333, Santa Clarita, CA 91322-0333: Carl Boyer 3rd, 2001), p. 11. Hereinafter cited as Boyer [2001] Med English Ancestors.
  2. [S632] Frederick Lewis Weis, Ancestral Roots of Certain American Colonists Who Came to America before 1700: The Lineage of Alfred the Great, Charlemagne, Malcolm of Scotland, Robert the Strong, and Some of Their Descendants, 7th edition (n.p.: Genealogical Publishing Co., Inc.
    Baltimore, 1992, unknown publish date), line 189-3, p. 162. Hereinafter cited as Weis AR-7.

Sir Robert de Muscegros of Charlton, Somerset

M, #10396, d. before 29 January 1253/54
ReferenceGAV22 EDV23
Last Edited25 Feb 2003
     Sir Robert de Muscegros of Charlton, Somerset married Hawise (Helewise) Malet, daughter of William II Malet and Alice (Aliva) Basset, before 11 Feb 1220/21.1,2,3
Sir Robert de Muscegros of Charlton, Somerset died before 29 January 1253/54.1
     Sir Robert de Muscegros of Charlton, Somerset lived at Brewham, co. Somerset, England.4 GAV-22 EDV-23 GKJ-24.

Family

Hawise (Helewise) Malet d. a 4 May 1287
Child

Citations

  1. [S632] Frederick Lewis Weis, Ancestral Roots of Certain American Colonists Who Came to America before 1700: The Lineage of Alfred the Great, Charlemagne, Malcolm of Scotland, Robert the Strong, and Some of Their Descendants, 7th edition (n.p.: Genealogical Publishing Co., Inc.
    Baltimore, 1992, unknown publish date), line 234A-29, p. 198. Hereinafter cited as Weis AR-7.
  2. [S757] Compiled by Carl Boyer 3rd, Medieval English Ancestors of Certain Americans: Many of the English Ancestral Lines Prior to 1300 of those Colonial Americans with known Royal Ancestry but Fully Developed in all Possible Lines (PO Box 220333, Santa Clarita, CA 91322-0333: Carl Boyer 3rd, 2001), p. 143, MALET 6:i. Hereinafter cited as Boyer [2001] Med English Ancestors.
  3. [S1396] Burke's Peerage & Gentry Web Site, online http://www.burkes-peerage.net/sites/peerageandgentry/sitepages/home.asp, Poyntz of Tylston Lodge Family Page. Hereinafter cited as Burke's Peerage & Gentry Web Site.
  4. [S1396] Burke's Peerage & Gentry Web Site, online http://www.burkes-peerage.net/sites/peerageandgentry/sitepages/home.asp, Malet Family Page.

Hawise (Helewise) Malet1,2

F, #10397, d. after 4 May 1287
FatherWilliam II Malet3,2 d. c 1216
MotherAlice (Aliva) Basset2 b. c 1170, d. c 1263
ReferenceGAV22 EDV23
Last Edited25 Feb 2003
     Hawise (Helewise) Malet married Sir Robert de Muscegros of Charlton, Somerset before 11 Feb 1220/21.4,1,3 Hawise (Helewise) Malet married Sir Hugh I Poyntz of Tokington, Glos, son of Nicholas I Poyntz Lord of Tockington and Juliana Bardolf, before 23 Mar 1216/17.4,1,3
Hawise (Helewise) Malet died after 4 May 1287.4
     ; Helewise; m 1st Sir Hugh Poyntz, of Tokington, Glos, and had issue; m 2nd Sir Robert de Muscegros, of Brewham, Somerset.2 GAV-22 EDV-23 GKJ-24.

Family 1

Sir Robert de Muscegros of Charlton, Somerset d. b 29 Jan 1253/54
Child

Family 2

Sir Hugh I Poyntz of Tokington, Glos d. b 4 Apr 1220
Child

Citations

  1. [S757] Compiled by Carl Boyer 3rd, Medieval English Ancestors of Certain Americans: Many of the English Ancestral Lines Prior to 1300 of those Colonial Americans with known Royal Ancestry but Fully Developed in all Possible Lines (PO Box 220333, Santa Clarita, CA 91322-0333: Carl Boyer 3rd, 2001), p. 143, MALET 6:i. Hereinafter cited as Boyer [2001] Med English Ancestors.
  2. [S1396] Burke's Peerage & Gentry Web Site, online http://www.burkes-peerage.net/sites/peerageandgentry/sitepages/home.asp, Malet Family Page. Hereinafter cited as Burke's Peerage & Gentry Web Site.
  3. [S1396] Burke's Peerage & Gentry Web Site, online http://www.burkes-peerage.net/sites/peerageandgentry/sitepages/home.asp, Poyntz of Tylston Lodge Family Page.
  4. [S632] Frederick Lewis Weis, Ancestral Roots of Certain American Colonists Who Came to America before 1700: The Lineage of Alfred the Great, Charlemagne, Malcolm of Scotland, Robert the Strong, and Some of Their Descendants, 7th edition (n.p.: Genealogical Publishing Co., Inc.
    Baltimore, 1992, unknown publish date), line 234A-29, p. 198. Hereinafter cited as Weis AR-7.

Constance de Penthievre Duchess of Brittany1,2,3,4,5,6

F, #10398, b. circa 1162, d. 5 September 1201
FatherConan IV "le Petit, le Fort" (?) Duc de Bretagne, Earl of Richmond7,3,4,5,8,9,10,11 b. 1138, d. 20 Feb 1171
MotherMargaret de Huntingdon Duchess of Brittany3,5,8,9,11,12 b. bt 1145 - 1146, d. 1201
ReferenceEDV24 GKJ24
Last Edited8 Nov 2020
     Constance de Penthievre Duchess of Brittany and Sir Ranulph III "de Blundeville" de Kevelioc Earl of Chester, Earl of Lincoln were divorced. Constance de Penthievre Duchess of Brittany was born circa 1162 at Brittany, France.13,14,5,8 She married Geoffrey III (?) Earl of Richmond, Duke of Brittany, son of Henry II "Curtmantle" (?) King of England and Eleanor (Eleonore) (?) Duchess of Aquitaine, Countess of Poitou, in July 1181; her 1st husband.15,7,3,5,9,6 Constance de Penthievre Duchess of Brittany married Sir Ranulph III "de Blundeville" de Kevelioc Earl of Chester, Earl of Lincoln, son of Hugh "of Kevelioc" de Meschines (?) 5th Earl of Chester, Vicomte d'Avranche and Bertrade de Montfort, between 3 February 1188 and 1189; her 2nd husband.1,3,16,17,18 Constance de Penthievre Duchess of Brittany married Guy de Thouars Duc de Bretagne, Earl of Richmond (jure uxoris), son of Geoffrey V de Thouars Vicomte de Thouars and Aénor/Aimee de Lusignan, in 1199; her 3rd husband; his 1st wife.13,3,4,16,18
Constance de Penthievre Duchess of Brittany died on 5 September 1201 at Nantes, Departement de la Loire-Atlantique, Pays de la Loire, France.1,16,13,7,5,8,9
Constance de Penthievre Duchess of Brittany was buried after 5 December 1201 at Villeneuve-lez-Nantes, France (now).9


     EDV-24 GKJ-24.

Family 1

Geoffrey III (?) Earl of Richmond, Duke of Brittany b. 23 Sep 1158, d. 19 Aug 1186
Children

Family 3

Guy de Thouars Duc de Bretagne, Earl of Richmond (jure uxoris) d. 13 Apr 1213
Children

Citations

  1. [S757] Compiled by Carl Boyer 3rd, Medieval English Ancestors of Certain Americans: Many of the English Ancestral Lines Prior to 1300 of those Colonial Americans with known Royal Ancestry but Fully Developed in all Possible Lines (PO Box 220333, Santa Clarita, CA 91322-0333: Carl Boyer 3rd, 2001), p. 50, CHESTER 7:ii. Hereinafter cited as Boyer [2001] Med English Ancestors.
  2. [S1373] The Official Site of the British Monarchy, online http://www.royal.gov.uk/output/Page1.asp, http://www.royal.gov.uk/files/pdf/continen.pdf "The Continental Dynasties: 1066-1216". Hereinafter cited as British Monarchy Site.
  3. [S1429] Unknown compiler, Notable British Families 1600s-1900s from Burke's Peerage., CD-ROM (n.p.: Broderbund Software Company, 1999), Notable British Families, Burke's "Dormant, Abeyant, Forfeited, and Extinct Peerages" (Gen. Pub. Co., Baltimore, 1985 reprint of 1883 edition), De Dreux - Earls of Richmond, p. 162. Hereinafter cited as Notable British Families CD # 367.
  4. [S1438] Miroslav Marek, online http://genealogy.euweb.cz/index.html, unknown author (e-mail address), downloaded updated 15 May 2003, Thouars 2 page: http://genealogy.euweb.cz/french/thouars2.html
  5. [S1438] Miroslav Marek, updated 15 May 2003, Bretagne 3 page: http://genealogy.euweb.cz/bretagne/bretagne3.html
  6. [S2280] Racines et Histoire, online http://racineshistoire.free.fr/LGN/LGN-frameset.html, http://racineshistoire.free.fr/LGN/PDF/Anjou-Gatinais.pdf, p. 8. Hereinafter cited as Racines et Histoire.
  7. [S1426] Jiri Louda (Tables) and Michael Maclagan (text), Lines of Succession: Heraldry of the Royal Families of Europe (NY: Barnes & Noble Books, 2002), Table 2: England - Normans and early Plantagenets. Hereinafter cited as Louda & Maclagan [2002] Lines of Succession.
  8. [S2077] John P. Ravilious, "Ravilious email 3 June 2006: "Re: Brittany was Re: William de Mohun's (d Oct 1193) ancestors," e-mail message from e-mail address (unknown address) to e-mail address, 3 June 2006. Hereinafter cited as "Ravilious email 3 June 2006."
  9. [S2261] Douglas Richardson, Plantagenet Ancestry: A Study in Colonial and Medieval Families, 1st edition (n.p.: Genealogical Publishing Company, Inc., 2004), p.6. Hereinafter cited as Richardson PA.
  10. [S1490] Genealogics Website (oiginated by Leo van de Pas, continued by Ian Fettes), online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Conon IV le Petit: https://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00005949&tree=LEO. Hereinafter cited as Genealogics Website.
  11. [S2203] Foundation for Medieval Genealogy (FMG): MEDIEVAL LANDS - A prosopography of medieval European noble and royal families, online http://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/index.htm, https://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/BRITTANY.htm#ConanIVdied1171A. Hereinafter cited as FMG Medieval Lands Website.
  12. [S1490] Genealogics Website, online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Margaret of Scotland: https://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00122052&tree=LEO
  13. [S632] Frederick Lewis Weis, Ancestral Roots of Certain American Colonists Who Came to America before 1700: The Lineage of Alfred the Great, Charlemagne, Malcolm of Scotland, Robert the Strong, and Some of Their Descendants, 7th edition (n.p.: Genealogical Publishing Co., Inc.
    Baltimore, 1992, unknown publish date), line 96-27, p. 92. Hereinafter cited as Weis AR-7.
  14. [S761] John Cannon and Ralph Griffiths, The Oxford Illiustrated History of the British Monarchy (Great Clarendon Street, Oxford OX2 6DP, United Kingdom: Oxford University Press, 1998), Appendix II: The Continental Dynasties 1066-1216. Hereinafter cited as Cannaon & Griffits (1998) - British Monarchy.
  15. [S1979] Douglas Richardson, "Mississippienne email 18 Oct 2005: "Grandchildren of Eleanor of Aquitaine"," e-mail message from e-mail address (unknown address) to e-mail address, 18 Oct 2005. Hereinafter cited as "Mississippienne email 18 Oct 2005."
  16. [S1438] Miroslav Marek, updated 15 May 2003, Bretagne 3 page: http://genealogy.euweb.cz/bretagne/bretagne3.html#C
  17. [S1899] Todd Whitesides, "Whitesides email 9 July 2005 "Hugh "of Kevelioc" (1147-1181), Earl of Chester"," e-mail message from e-mail address (unknown address) to e-mail address, 9 July 2005. Hereinafter cited as "Whitesides email 9 July 2005."
  18. [S757] Compiled by Carl Boyer 3rd, Boyer [2001] Med English Ancestors, pp. 198-199, PLANTAGENET 6:v.
  19. [S1438] Miroslav Marek, updated 15 May 2003, Anjou 3 page (The House of Anjou): http://genealogy.euweb.cz/anjou/anjou3.html
  20. [S1490] Genealogics Website, online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Eleanor de Bretagne: http://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00005257&tree=LEO
  21. [S1490] Genealogics Website, online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Mathilde de Bretagne: http://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00005255&tree=LEO
  22. [S1490] Genealogics Website, online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, http://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00005256&tree=LEO
  23. [S1490] Genealogics Website, online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Alix de Thouars: https://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00005247&tree=LEO

Guy de Thouars Duc de Bretagne, Earl of Richmond (jure uxoris)1,2

M, #10399, d. 13 April 1213
FatherGeoffrey V de Thouars Vicomte de Thouars1,3,4 b. c 1120, d. a 1176
MotherAénor/Aimee de Lusignan1 b. c 1130
ReferenceEDV24
Last Edited9 Nov 2020
     Guy de Thouars Duc de Bretagne, Earl of Richmond (jure uxoris) married Constance de Penthievre Duchess of Brittany, daughter of Conan IV "le Petit, le Fort" (?) Duc de Bretagne, Earl of Richmond and Margaret de Huntingdon Duchess of Brittany, in 1199; her 3rd husband; his 1st wife.5,6,1,7,2 Guy de Thouars Duc de Bretagne, Earl of Richmond (jure uxoris) married Eustachie d'Argenton, daughter of Pierre d'Argenton, circa 1203; his 2nd wife.1,8
Guy de Thouars Duc de Bretagne, Earl of Richmond (jure uxoris) died on 13 April 1213 at Chemille, Anjou, France; Weis (AR7 line 96-27) says d. 1218.5,9,8
Guy de Thouars Duc de Bretagne, Earl of Richmond (jure uxoris) was buried after 13 April 1213 at Villeneuve-lez-Nantes, France (now).


     ; Guy de Thouars, Duc de Bretagne, buried in Chambon, +chateau de Chemille 1213; 1m: 1199 Constance de Richemont, Dss of Bretagne (+1201, bur Villeneuve), dau.of Conan IV, Duke de Bretagne; 2m: ca 1203 Eustachie d'Argenton (+after 1244.)1

; Complete Peerage 10 (1945): 796, footnote k (sub Richmond) states that
Guy de Thouars, 3rd husband of Constance, Duchess of Brittany (died
1201), "never styles himself Earl of Richmond and it is clear that he
never had the Earldom."

The historian, J. Everard, however, states the following in her book,
Charters of Duchess Constance of Brittany and her Family (1999), pg.
137:

"During his marriage to Constance, the title was ‘Guido de Thoarcio,
dux Britannie, comes Richemondie' (Gu 2,3). As regent (from c.
mid-1203 to 1213, the title was, ‘Guido de Thoarcio comes Britannie'
(Gu5-9, 11-14, 16, 18, 19, 21-3, 25, 27, 28), conforming with the
practice of the French royal chancery, and not making any claims
regarding Richmond.")."

The reference "Gu 2,3" refers to two charters cited elsewhere in
Everard's book.

C.P. 10: 797 further states that after the death of Duchess Constance
in 1202, Guy de Thouars served as regent until 1213, when his
daughter, Alice, married Pierre de Braine. "He then disappears from
history, and the date of his death is not certainly known."

According to various sources I've consulted, it appears that the
subsequent history of Guy de Thouars is known. I find that in Oct.
1203, he was granted the castles of Chemillé and Brissac by King
Philippe Auguste of France. He died at Chemillé in Anjou 13 April
1213, and was eventually buried at Villeneuve. In addition to his two
daughters by Duchess Constance, he was survived at his death by his
second wife, Eustache, and two children by that marriage, Pierre
[seigneur of Chemillé, Mortagne, and Brissac] and Thomas.

Interested parties may consult the following sources regarding Guy de
Thouars and his children:

H. Morice, Memoires pour Servir de Preuves a l'Histoire de Bretagne 1
(1742): 916–917, 930–931, 955.

S. Painter, The Scourge of the Clergy: Peter of Dreux, Duke of
Brittany (1969).

D. Schwennicke, Europäische Stammtafeln 2 (1984): 83 (sub England); 3
(1989): 810 (sub Thouars); 14 (1991): 136 (sub Vitré).

J. Everard, Charters of Duchess Constance of Brittany and her Family
(1999).

J.A. Everard, Brittany and the Angevins (2000).

If anyone has further particulars regarding Guy de Thouars, I'd
appreciate it if they would post their information here on the
newsgroup.

Best always, Douglas Richardson, Salt Lake City, Utah

E-mail: royalancestry@msn.com.9
EDV-24.

Family 1

Constance de Penthievre Duchess of Brittany b. c 1162, d. 5 Sep 1201
Children

Citations

  1. [S1438] Miroslav Marek, online http://genealogy.euweb.cz/index.html, unknown author (e-mail address), downloaded updated 15 May 2003, Thouars 2 page: http://genealogy.euweb.cz/french/thouars2.html
  2. [S757] Compiled by Carl Boyer 3rd, Medieval English Ancestors of Certain Americans: Many of the English Ancestral Lines Prior to 1300 of those Colonial Americans with known Royal Ancestry but Fully Developed in all Possible Lines (PO Box 220333, Santa Clarita, CA 91322-0333: Carl Boyer 3rd, 2001), pp. 198-199, PLANTAGENET 6:v. Hereinafter cited as Boyer [2001] Med English Ancestors.
  3. [S1490] Genealogics Website (oiginated by Leo van de Pas, continued by Ian Fettes), online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Geoffroy V: http://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00141506&tree=LEO. Hereinafter cited as Genealogics Website.
  4. [S1490] Genealogics Website, online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Geoffroy V: https://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00141506&tree=LEO
  5. [S632] Frederick Lewis Weis, Ancestral Roots of Certain American Colonists Who Came to America before 1700: The Lineage of Alfred the Great, Charlemagne, Malcolm of Scotland, Robert the Strong, and Some of Their Descendants, 7th edition (n.p.: Genealogical Publishing Co., Inc.
    Baltimore, 1992, unknown publish date), line 96-27, p. 92. Hereinafter cited as Weis AR-7.
  6. [S1429] Unknown compiler, Notable British Families 1600s-1900s from Burke's Peerage., CD-ROM (n.p.: Broderbund Software Company, 1999), Notable British Families, Burke's "Dormant, Abeyant, Forfeited, and Extinct Peerages" (Gen. Pub. Co., Baltimore, 1985 reprint of 1883 edition), De Dreux - Earls of Richmond, p. 162. Hereinafter cited as Notable British Families CD # 367.
  7. [S1438] Miroslav Marek, updated 15 May 2003, Bretagne 3 page: http://genealogy.euweb.cz/bretagne/bretagne3.html#C
  8. [S2261] Douglas Richardson, Plantagenet Ancestry: A Study in Colonial and Medieval Families, 1st edition (n.p.: Genealogical Publishing Company, Inc., 2004), p.6. Hereinafter cited as Richardson PA.
  9. [S1492] Douglas Richardson, "Richardson email "CP Correction/Addition: Guy de Thouars, Duke of Brittany, Earl of Richmond (died 1213)"," e-mail message from e-mail address (unknown address) to e-mail address, 31 Oct 2003. Hereinafter cited as "Richardson email 31 Oct 2003."
  10. [S1490] Genealogics Website, online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Alix de Thouars: https://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00005247&tree=LEO

Geoffrey V de Thouars Vicomte de Thouars1,2,3

M, #10400, b. circa 1120, d. after 1176
FatherAimery V/VI de Thouars Vicomte de Thouars1,4,2,5 b. c 1095, d. 1127
MotherAgnès/Mathilde (?) de Poitou, Queen Consort of Aragon1,6,2,3,5 b. 1103, d. c 8 Mar 1159
ReferenceEDV25
Last Edited9 Nov 2020
     Geoffrey V de Thouars Vicomte de Thouars was born circa 1120; Genealogics says b. est. 1117.2,5 He married Aénor/Aimee de Lusignan, daughter of Hugues VII "le Brun" de Lusignan Sire de Lusignan and Sarazine de Lezay, before 1144.7,2
Geoffrey V de Thouars Vicomte de Thouars died after 1176.2
     Reference: Genealogics cites: Europäische Stammtafeln, J.A. Stargardt Verlag Marburg., Detlev Schwennicke, Editor, Reference: III 810.5 EDV-25.

; Per Genealogics:
     "Geoffroy V was the son of Aimery VI, vicomte de Thouars, and Agnès (Mathilde) de Poitou. _Europäische Stammtafeln_ do not give the name of his wife. Some sources identify her as Aimée de Lusignan, a daughter of Hugues VII 'le Brun' de Lusignan and Sarasine de Lezay. They are said to have had nine children of whom Guy and Aimery VII would have progeny.
     "Geoffroy became vicomte de Thouars after the death of his brother Guillaume I in 1139. In 1156 he attacked and destroyed the land of his northern neighbour Berle Montreuil. He then supported Geoffrey VI Martel d'Anjou, comte de Nantes, the counts of La Marche and Angoulême and Hugues VIII 'le Brun' de Lusignan who opposed King Henry II of England, Geoffrey's brother. After Henry had seized the castles of Chinon, Loudun and Mirebeau, Geoffrey VI submitted. Henry then threatened Thouars on 16 August 1158, and the garrison surrendered (they had been bribed), and Geoffoy V de Thouars was forced to flee to Le Puy-Beliard.
     "The castle was razed and the city was placed under a governor, Briant de Martigné. He remained at Le Puy-Beliard until his death in 1160, when Aimery de Bernezay succeeded him."5 He was living in 1173.1

Citations

  1. [S1438] Miroslav Marek, online http://genealogy.euweb.cz/index.html, unknown author (e-mail address), downloaded updated 15 May 2003, Thouars 1 page: http://genealogy.euweb.cz/french/thouars1.html#A6
  2. [S1438] Miroslav Marek, updated 15 May 2003, Lusignan 1 page (de Lusignan Family): http://genealogy.euweb.cz/crus/lusignan1.html
  3. [S1490] Genealogics Website (oiginated by Leo van de Pas, continued by Ian Fettes), online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Geoffroy V: http://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00141506&tree=LEO. Hereinafter cited as Genealogics Website.
  4. [S1490] Genealogics Website, online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Aimery VI: http://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00020891&tree=LEO
  5. [S1490] Genealogics Website, online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Geoffroy V: https://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00141506&tree=LEO
  6. [S1490] Genealogics Website, online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Agnès (Mathilde) de Poitou: http://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00020533&tree=LEO
  7. [S632] Frederick Lewis Weis, Ancestral Roots of Certain American Colonists Who Came to America before 1700: The Lineage of Alfred the Great, Charlemagne, Malcolm of Scotland, Robert the Strong, and Some of Their Descendants, 7th edition (n.p.: Genealogical Publishing Co., Inc.
    Baltimore, 1992, unknown publish date), line 96-27, p. 92. Hereinafter cited as Weis AR-7.
  8. [S1438] Miroslav Marek, updated 15 May 2003, Thouars 2 page: http://genealogy.euweb.cz/french/thouars2.html
  9. [S1490] Genealogics Website, online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Aimery VII de Thouars: http://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00208544&tree=LEO

Aénor/Aimee de Lusignan1

F, #10401, b. circa 1130
FatherHugues VII "le Brun" de Lusignan Sire de Lusignan1 b. c 1084, d. a 2 Feb 1150/51
MotherSarazine de Lezay1 b. c 1067, d. 1144
ReferenceEDV25
Last Edited8 Nov 2020
     Aénor/Aimee de Lusignan was born circa 1130.1 She married Geoffrey V de Thouars Vicomte de Thouars, son of Aimery V/VI de Thouars Vicomte de Thouars and Agnès/Mathilde (?) de Poitou, Queen Consort of Aragon, before 1144.2,1
     EDV-25.

; Aénor, *ca 1130; m.before 1144 Geoffroy V, Vicomte de Thouars (*ca 1120 +after 1176), son of Aimery VI, Vicomte de Thouars and Agnes=Mathilde de Poitiers.1 Aénor/Aimee de Lusignan was also known as Aenor de Leusigne.

Citations

  1. [S1438] Miroslav Marek, online http://genealogy.euweb.cz/index.html, unknown author (e-mail address), downloaded updated 15 May 2003, Lusignan 1 page (de Lusignan Family): http://genealogy.euweb.cz/crus/lusignan1.html
  2. [S632] Frederick Lewis Weis, Ancestral Roots of Certain American Colonists Who Came to America before 1700: The Lineage of Alfred the Great, Charlemagne, Malcolm of Scotland, Robert the Strong, and Some of Their Descendants, 7th edition (n.p.: Genealogical Publishing Co., Inc.
    Baltimore, 1992, unknown publish date), line 96-27, p. 92. Hereinafter cited as Weis AR-7.
  3. [S1438] Miroslav Marek, updated 15 May 2003, Thouars 2 page: http://genealogy.euweb.cz/french/thouars2.html

Sir Oliver de Vaux1

M, #10402
FatherRobert de Vaux1 d. a 1190
ReferenceEDV21
Last Edited7 Oct 2020
     Sir Oliver de Vaux married Petronilla Croun, daughter of Guy de Croun. Sir Oliver de Vaux was born before 1211.
Sir Oliver de Vaux died after 1244.1
     ; OLIVER de VAUX; accompanied KING JOHN to Ireland 1203; later opposed JOHN, hence his lands forfeited, though they were restored him by HENRY III c 1218; Justice itinerant c 1234; m Petronilla, widow of Henry de Mara and William de Longchamps, and d after 1244, having had, with an est s (Robert; dsp) and a dau (Eleanore.)1 EDV-21 GKJ-22.

; Weis AR 89-30.2

Citations

  1. [S1396] Burke's Peerage & Gentry Web Site, online http://www.burkes-peerage.net/sites/peerageandgentry/sitepages/home.asp, Vaux of Harrowden Family Page. Hereinafter cited as Burke's Peerage & Gentry Web Site.
  2. [S632] Frederick Lewis Weis, Ancestral Roots of Certain American Colonists Who Came to America before 1700: The Lineage of Alfred the Great, Charlemagne, Malcolm of Scotland, Robert the Strong, and Some of Their Descendants, 7th edition (n.p.: Genealogical Publishing Co., Inc.
    Baltimore, 1992, unknown publish date), line 89-30, p. 88. Hereinafter cited as Weis AR-7.

Sir Robert de Ros Lord of Helmsley and Belvoir1

M, #10403, b. circa 1223, d. 16 June 1285
FatherSir William de Ros of Helmsley d. c 1264
MotherLucy Fitz Piers of Brecknock d. a 1266
ReferenceGAV19 EDV21
Last Edited24 Sep 2005
     Sir Robert de Ros Lord of Helmsley and Belvoir was born circa 1223 at Helmsley, Leicestershire, England.1 He married Isabel d'Albini of Belvoir Castle, daughter of William IV d'Albini Lord of Belvoir and Isabel (?), between 5 June 1243 and 17 May 1244.2,3,1,4,5
Sir Robert de Ros Lord of Helmsley and Belvoir died on 17 May 1285.2,4,6
Sir Robert de Ros Lord of Helmsley and Belvoir was buried after 17 May 1285 at Kirkhamd, Yorkshire, England.6


Sir Robert de Ros Lord of Helmsley and Belvoir died on 16 June 1285; Richardson says d. "1285."7,1,5
     GAV-19 EDV-21 GKJ-21.

Sir Robert de Ros Lord of Helmsley and Belvoir lived at Helmsley, Yorkshire, England.8

; Sir ROBERT de ROS, of Belvoir; summoned 24 Dec 1264 to a 'Parliament' convened by Simon de Montfort, an event which prompted the legal decision of 1616 (also accepted 1806) assigning precedence in the barony of DE ROS OF HELMSLEY to 1264, although the 'Parliament' in question was convoked not by the King but by a noble in opposition to him; by subsequent evolutions in peerage law doctrine no sitting in what can only be termed a council of that date could be held to confer a peerage; Ch Commr to investigate excesses in Herefs 1258; sided with Simon de Montfort in the Barons' War, surrendering Northampton to HENRY III April 1264 and Gloucester to PRINCE EDWARD (later EDWARD I) June 1265; pardoned 14 Aug 1265 for his opposition to HENRY III; Commr in North of England 1268 to ensure Aid (a tax) was yielded up to the King; m after 5 June 1243 but by 17 May 1244 Isabel (d 15 June 1301), dau and heiress of William d'Aubigny, feudal Ld of Belvoir, Leics, through whom he acquired that manor, and d 17 May 1285.4 He was Lord of Belvoir at Leicestershire, England.9 He was Lord of Helmsley at Yorkshire, England.9 He was M.P. between 1261 and 1265.9

Citations

  1. [S757] Compiled by Carl Boyer 3rd, Medieval English Ancestors of Certain Americans: Many of the English Ancestral Lines Prior to 1300 of those Colonial Americans with known Royal Ancestry but Fully Developed in all Possible Lines (PO Box 220333, Santa Clarita, CA 91322-0333: Carl Boyer 3rd, 2001), pp. 216*217, de ROS 6. Hereinafter cited as Boyer [2001] Med English Ancestors.
  2. [S632] Frederick Lewis Weis, Ancestral Roots of Certain American Colonists Who Came to America before 1700: The Lineage of Alfred the Great, Charlemagne, Malcolm of Scotland, Robert the Strong, and Some of Their Descendants, 7th edition (n.p.: Genealogical Publishing Co., Inc.
    Baltimore, 1992, unknown publish date), line 89-30, p. 88. Hereinafter cited as Weis AR-7.
  3. [S633] With additions and corrections by Walter Lee Sheppard Jr. and William R. Beall Frederick Lewis Weis, The Magna Charta Sureties, 1215 : The Barons Named in the Magna
    Charta, 1215 and Some of Their Descendants Who Settled in America
    During the Early Colonial Years, 5th Edition
    (Baltimore, MD, USA: Genealogical Publishine Co., Inc., unknown publish date), line 1-2, p. 1. Hereinafter cited as Weis MCS-5.
  4. [S1396] Burke's Peerage & Gentry Web Site, online http://www.burkes-peerage.net/sites/peerageandgentry/sitepages/home.asp, de Ros Family Page. Hereinafter cited as Burke's Peerage & Gentry Web Site.
  5. [S1784] Douglas Richardson, "Richardson email 29 July 2005 "Re: Descendants of Sir Richard de Lucy and Rohese of Boulogne"," e-mail message from e-mail address (https://groups.google.com/g/soc.genealogy.medieval/c/F9_d7JZUuk0/m/5jgR9n064yQJ) to e-mail address, 29 July 2005. Hereinafter cited as "Richardson email 29 July 2005."
  6. [S1793] David Utz, "Utz email #1 20 Aug 2005 "Descents from Rohese of Boulogne to Dannett ABNEY"," e-mail message from e-mail address (unknown address) to e-mail address, 20 Aug 2005. Hereinafter cited as "Utz email #1 20 Aug 2005."
  7. [S757] Compiled by Carl Boyer 3rd, Boyer [2001] Med English Ancestors, p. 3.
  8. [S633] With additions and corrections by Walter Lee Sheppard Jr. and William R. Beall Frederick Lewis Weis, Weis MCS-5, line 117-3, p. 154.
  9. [S633] With additions and corrections by Walter Lee Sheppard Jr. and William R. Beall Frederick Lewis Weis, Weis MCS-5, line 1-3, p. 1.
  10. [S633] With additions and corrections by Walter Lee Sheppard Jr. and William R. Beall Frederick Lewis Weis, Weis MCS-5, line 122A-4, p. 169.
  11. [S757] Compiled by Carl Boyer 3rd, Boyer [2001] Med English Ancestors, pp. 216*217, de ROS 6:iii.
  12. [S757] Compiled by Carl Boyer 3rd, Boyer [2001] Med English Ancestors, pp. 216*217, de ROS 6:iv.
  13. [S633] With additions and corrections by Walter Lee Sheppard Jr. and William R. Beall Frederick Lewis Weis, Weis MCS-5, line 117-4, p. 154.

Isabel d'Albini of Belvoir Castle1,2

F, #10404, b. circa 1233, d. 15 June 1301
FatherWilliam IV d'Albini Lord of Belvoir2,3 d. c 15 Sep 1242
MotherIsabel (?)3 b. bt 1233 - 1235, d. a 1285
ReferenceGAV19 EDV21
Last Edited24 Sep 2005
     Isabel d'Albini of Belvoir Castle was born circa 1233 at Belvoir Castle, Leicestershire, England.2,3 She married Sir Robert de Ros Lord of Helmsley and Belvoir, son of Sir William de Ros of Helmsley and Lucy Fitz Piers of Brecknock, between 5 June 1243 and 17 May 1244.4,5,6,7,2
Isabel d'Albini of Belvoir Castle died on 15 June 1301.4,2
Isabel d'Albini of Belvoir Castle was buried after 15 June 1301 at Newstead Priory, near Stamford, Lincolnshire, England.3


     Isabel d'Albini of Belvoir Castle lived at Belvoir Castle, Leicestershire, England.5 GAV-19 EDV-21 GKJ-21. Isabel d'Albini of Belvoir Castle was also known as Isabel d'Aubeney.2 Isabel d'Albini of Belvoir Castle was also known as Isabel d'Aubigny.8,7

Citations

  1. [S757] Compiled by Carl Boyer 3rd, Medieval English Ancestors of Certain Americans: Many of the English Ancestral Lines Prior to 1300 of those Colonial Americans with known Royal Ancestry but Fully Developed in all Possible Lines (PO Box 220333, Santa Clarita, CA 91322-0333: Carl Boyer 3rd, 2001), p. 3. Hereinafter cited as Boyer [2001] Med English Ancestors.
  2. [S1784] Douglas Richardson, "Richardson email 29 July 2005 "Re: Descendants of Sir Richard de Lucy and Rohese of Boulogne"," e-mail message from e-mail address (https://groups.google.com/g/soc.genealogy.medieval/c/F9_d7JZUuk0/m/5jgR9n064yQJ) to e-mail address, 29 July 2005. Hereinafter cited as "Richardson email 29 July 2005."
  3. [S1793] David Utz, "Utz email #1 20 Aug 2005 "Descents from Rohese of Boulogne to Dannett ABNEY"," e-mail message from e-mail address (unknown address) to e-mail address, 20 Aug 2005. Hereinafter cited as "Utz email #1 20 Aug 2005."
  4. [S632] Frederick Lewis Weis, Ancestral Roots of Certain American Colonists Who Came to America before 1700: The Lineage of Alfred the Great, Charlemagne, Malcolm of Scotland, Robert the Strong, and Some of Their Descendants, 7th edition (n.p.: Genealogical Publishing Co., Inc.
    Baltimore, 1992, unknown publish date), line 89-30, p. 88. Hereinafter cited as Weis AR-7.
  5. [S633] With additions and corrections by Walter Lee Sheppard Jr. and William R. Beall Frederick Lewis Weis, The Magna Charta Sureties, 1215 : The Barons Named in the Magna
    Charta, 1215 and Some of Their Descendants Who Settled in America
    During the Early Colonial Years, 5th Edition
    (Baltimore, MD, USA: Genealogical Publishine Co., Inc., unknown publish date), line 1-2, p. 1. Hereinafter cited as Weis MCS-5.
  6. [S757] Compiled by Carl Boyer 3rd, Boyer [2001] Med English Ancestors, pp. 216*217, de ROS 6.
  7. [S1396] Burke's Peerage & Gentry Web Site, online http://www.burkes-peerage.net/sites/peerageandgentry/sitepages/home.asp, de Ros Family Page. Hereinafter cited as Burke's Peerage & Gentry Web Site.
  8. [S632] Frederick Lewis Weis, Weis AR-7, line 208-29, p. 173.
  9. [S633] With additions and corrections by Walter Lee Sheppard Jr. and William R. Beall Frederick Lewis Weis, Weis MCS-5, line 122A-4, p. 169.
  10. [S757] Compiled by Carl Boyer 3rd, Boyer [2001] Med English Ancestors, pp. 216*217, de ROS 6:iii.
  11. [S757] Compiled by Carl Boyer 3rd, Boyer [2001] Med English Ancestors, pp. 216*217, de ROS 6:iv.
  12. [S633] With additions and corrections by Walter Lee Sheppard Jr. and William R. Beall Frederick Lewis Weis, Weis MCS-5, line 117-4, p. 154.

William IV d'Albini Lord of Belvoir

M, #10405, d. circa 15 September 1242
FatherWilliam III d'Albini Lord of Belvoir Castle b. a 1146, d. 1 May 1236
MotherMargery/Margaret de Umfreville d. b Sep 1198
ReferenceGAV20 EDV22
Last Edited24 Sep 2005
     William IV d'Albini Lord of Belvoir married Albreda/Aubrey Biset, daughter of Henrh Biseth; his 2nd wife.1,2 William IV d'Albini Lord of Belvoir married Isabel (?) before 1233; his 2nd wife.3,2
William IV d'Albini Lord of Belvoir died circa 15 September 1242.1,2,4
William IV d'Albini Lord of Belvoir was buried at Beauvoir Priory, Leicestershire, England.4


     He was Lord of Belvoir at Leicestershire, England.1 GAV-20 EDV-22.

William IV d'Albini Lord of Belvoir lived at Belvoir Castle, Leicestershire, England.1 William IV d'Albini Lord of Belvoir was also known as William IV d'Aubigny Lord of Belvoir Castle. William IV d'Albini Lord of Belvoir was also known as William IV d'Aubeney Lord of Belvoir Castle.2

Family 1

Albreda/Aubrey Biset d. a 1216

Family 2

Isabel (?) b. bt 1233 - 1235, d. a 1285
Child

Citations

  1. [S633] With additions and corrections by Walter Lee Sheppard Jr. and William R. Beall Frederick Lewis Weis, The Magna Charta Sureties, 1215 : The Barons Named in the Magna
    Charta, 1215 and Some of Their Descendants Who Settled in America
    During the Early Colonial Years, 5th Edition
    (Baltimore, MD, USA: Genealogical Publishine Co., Inc., unknown publish date), line 1-2, p. 1. Hereinafter cited as Weis MCS-5.
  2. [S1784] Douglas Richardson, "Richardson email 29 July 2005 "Re: Descendants of Sir Richard de Lucy and Rohese of Boulogne"," e-mail message from e-mail address (https://groups.google.com/g/soc.genealogy.medieval/c/F9_d7JZUuk0/m/5jgR9n064yQJ) to e-mail address, 29 July 2005. Hereinafter cited as "Richardson email 29 July 2005."
  3. [S632] Frederick Lewis Weis, Ancestral Roots of Certain American Colonists Who Came to America before 1700: The Lineage of Alfred the Great, Charlemagne, Malcolm of Scotland, Robert the Strong, and Some of Their Descendants, 7th edition (n.p.: Genealogical Publishing Co., Inc.
    Baltimore, 1992, unknown publish date), line 89-30, p. 88. Hereinafter cited as Weis AR-7.
  4. [S1793] David Utz, "Utz email #1 20 Aug 2005 "Descents from Rohese of Boulogne to Dannett ABNEY"," e-mail message from e-mail address (unknown address) to e-mail address, 20 Aug 2005. Hereinafter cited as "Utz email #1 20 Aug 2005."

Isabel (?)

F, #10406, b. between 1233 and 1235, d. after 1285
ReferenceGAV20 EDV22
Last Edited11 Sep 2005
     Isabel (?) married William IV d'Albini Lord of Belvoir, son of William III d'Albini Lord of Belvoir Castle and Margery/Margaret de Umfreville, before 1233; his 2nd wife.1,2 Isabel (?) was born between 1233 and 1235.3
Isabel (?) died after 1285.3,2
     GAV-20 EDV-22.

Family

William IV d'Albini Lord of Belvoir d. c 15 Sep 1242
Child

Citations

  1. [S632] Frederick Lewis Weis, Ancestral Roots of Certain American Colonists Who Came to America before 1700: The Lineage of Alfred the Great, Charlemagne, Malcolm of Scotland, Robert the Strong, and Some of Their Descendants, 7th edition (n.p.: Genealogical Publishing Co., Inc.
    Baltimore, 1992, unknown publish date), line 89-30, p. 88. Hereinafter cited as Weis AR-7.
  2. [S1784] Douglas Richardson, "Richardson email 29 July 2005 "Re: Descendants of Sir Richard de Lucy and Rohese of Boulogne"," e-mail message from e-mail address (https://groups.google.com/g/soc.genealogy.medieval/c/F9_d7JZUuk0/m/5jgR9n064yQJ) to e-mail address, 29 July 2005. Hereinafter cited as "Richardson email 29 July 2005."
  3. [S633] With additions and corrections by Walter Lee Sheppard Jr. and William R. Beall Frederick Lewis Weis, The Magna Charta Sureties, 1215 : The Barons Named in the Magna
    Charta, 1215 and Some of Their Descendants Who Settled in America
    During the Early Colonial Years, 5th Edition
    (Baltimore, MD, USA: Genealogical Publishine Co., Inc., unknown publish date), line 1-2, p. 1. Hereinafter cited as Weis MCS-5.
  4. [S1793] David Utz, "Utz email #1 20 Aug 2005 "Descents from Rohese of Boulogne to Dannett ABNEY"," e-mail message from e-mail address (unknown address) to e-mail address, 20 Aug 2005. Hereinafter cited as "Utz email #1 20 Aug 2005."

William III d'Albini Lord of Belvoir Castle

M, #10407, b. after 1146, d. 1 May 1236
FatherWilliam II "le Breton, Meschin" d'Albini lord of Belvoir1 d. c 1167
MotherMaud Fitz Robert de Clare1,2 b. b 1134, d. a 1185
ReferenceGAV23 EDV23
Last Edited29 Apr 2006
     William III d'Albini Lord of Belvoir Castle married Margery/Margaret de Umfreville, daughter of Odinel II de Umfreville Lord of Prudhoe, co. Northumberland and Alice de Lucy.3,4 William III d'Albini Lord of Belvoir Castle was born after 1146.3 He married Agatha Trussebut, daughter of William Trussebut Lord of Hunsingore, co. York, circa 29 September 1198; his 2nd wife.3,2
William III d'Albini Lord of Belvoir Castle died on 1 May 1236.5,3,4
William III d'Albini Lord of Belvoir Castle was buried after 7 May 1236 at Newstead, Lincolnshire, England.6


     William III d'Albini Lord of Belvoir Castle lived at Belvoir Castle, Leicestershire, England.7 He was Lord of Belvoir at Leicestershire, England.3 GAV-23 EDV-23. William III d'Albini Lord of Belvoir Castle was also known as William III d'Aubigny Lord of Belvoir Castle.8 William III d'Albini Lord of Belvoir Castle was also known as William III d'Aubeney Lord of Belvoir Castle.4

; Boyer (2001, pp. 2-3): [quote] Head of the army under King Richard I in Normandy in 1195, he was Sheiff of Rutland and many other counties in the period 1196-1199, and served as an itinerant justive in 1199 and on several occasions under King John. He served as Sheriff of Buckinghamshire and Bedfordwhire in the first year of the reign of King John. Having been forced to give his son John to King John as a hostage in 1201, he was a member of the moderate or middle section of the baronage in the conflict between King Johyn and the barons, remaining in attendance on the king until going over to the extreme party upon their taking possession of London on 24 May 1215. Going with them to Runnymede, he was elected a Magna Charta surety in 1215, and then withdrew to Belvoir. Although he was excommunicated by name by the Pope, along with de Quency and Mowbray, as a result of Runnymede, he refused to attend the Hounslow tournament on 6 July 1215.

He was prevailed upon to return to service in the fall, and was placed in charge of Rochester, but was forced to surrender it to John after a gallant defnse lasting from 11 Oc.t to 30 Nov. 1215, and was through into prison, narrowly escaping haning.

In 1216, upon payment of a fine of 6,000 marks (£4000), he was released and regained his lands. He did homage to King Henry III, was entrusted with Sleaford Castle and a command at the battle of Lincoln of 19 May 1217, which earned him high favor. In 1219 and 1225 he served again as an itinerant justice. [end quore]8

; Magna Charta Surety.5,3
William III d'Albini Lord of Belvoir Castle was a witness to the signed Magna Carta.
Counsellors named in Magna Carta
     "The preamble to Magna Carta includes the names of the following 27 ecclesiastical and secular magnates who had counselled John to accept its terms. The names include some of the moderate reformers, notably Archbishop Stephen Langton, and some of John's loyal supporters, such as William Marshal, Earl of Pembroke. They are listed here in the order in which they appear in the charter itself:[62]
1. Stephen Langton, Archbishop of Canterbury and Cardinal
2. Henry de Loundres, Archbishop of Dublin
3. William of Sainte-Mère-Église, Bishop of London
4. Peter des Roches, Bishop of Winchester
5. Jocelin of Wells, Bishop of Bath and Glastonbury
6. Hugh of Wells, Bishop of Lincoln
7. Walter de Gray, Bishop of Worcester
8. William de Cornhill, Bishop of Coventry
9. Benedict of Sausetun, Bishop of Rochester
10. Pandulf Verraccio, subdeacon and papal legate to England
11. Eymeric, Master of the Knights Templar in England
12. William Marshal, Earl of Pembroke
13. William Longespée, Earl of Salisbury
14. William de Warenne, Earl of Surrey
15. William d'Aubigny, Earl of Arundel
16. Alan of Galloway, Constable of Scotland
17. Warin FitzGerold
18. Peter FitzHerbert
19 Hubert de Burgh, Seneschal of Poitou
20. Hugh de Neville
21. Matthew FitzHerbert
22. Thomas Basset
23. Alan Basset
24. Philip d'Aubigny
25. Robert of Ropsley
26. John Marshal
27. John FitzHugh

The Council of Twenty-Five Barons
     "The names of the Twenty-Five Barons appointed under clause 61 to monitor John's future conduct are not given in the charter itself, but do appear in four early sources, all seemingly based on a contemporary listing: a late 13th-century collection of law tracts and statutes, a Reading Abbey manuscript now in Lambeth Palace Library, and the Chronica Majora and Liber Additamentorum of Matthew Paris.[63][64][65] The process of appointment is not known, but the names were drawn almost exclusively from among John's more active opponents.[66] They are listed here in the order in which they appear in the original sources:
1. Richard de Clare, Earl of Hertford
2. William de Forz, Earl of Albemarle
3. Geoffrey de Mandeville, Earl of Essex and Gloucester
4. Saer de Quincy, Earl of Winchester
5. Henry de Bohun, Earl of Hereford
6. Roger Bigod, Earl of Norfolk and Suffolk
7. Robert de Vere, Earl of Oxford
8. William Marshal junior
9. Robert Fitzwalter, baron of Little Dunmow
10. Gilbert de Clare, heir to the earldom of Hertford
11. Eustace de Vesci, Lord of Alnwick Castle
12. Hugh Bigod, heir to the Earldoms of Norfolk and Suffolk
13. William de Mowbray, Lord of Axholme Castle
14. William Hardell, Mayor of the City of London
15. William de Lanvallei, Lord of Walkern
16. Robert de Ros, Baron of Helmsley
17. John de Lacy, Constable of Chester and Lord of Pontefract Castle
18. Richard de Percy
19. John FitzRobert de Clavering, Lord of Warkworth Castle
20. William Malet
21. Geoffrey de Saye
22. Roger de Montbegon, Lord of Hornby Castle, Lancashire[f]
23. William of Huntingfield, Sheriff of Norfolk and Suffolk
24. Richard de Montfichet
25. William d'Aubigny, Lord of Belvoir

Excommunicated rebels
     "In September 1215, the papal commissioners in England – Subdeacon Pandulf, Peter des Roches, Bishop of Winchester, and Simon, Abbot of Reading – excommunicated the rebels, acting on instructions earlier received from Rome. A letter sent by the commissioners from Dover on 5 September to Archbishop Langton explicitly names nine senior rebel barons (all members of the Council of Twenty-Five), and six clerics numbered among the rebel ranks:[67]
Barons
1. Robert Fitzwalter
2. Saer de Quincy, Earl of Winchester
3. Richard de Clare, Earl of Hertford
4. Geoffrey de Mandeville, Earl of Essex and Gloucester
5. Eustace de Vesci
6. Richard de Percy
7. John de Lacy, Constable of Chester
8. William d'Aubigny
9. William de Mowbray
Clerics
10. Giles de Braose, Bishop of Hereford
11. William, Archdeacon of Hereford
12. Alexander the clerk [possibly Alexander of St Albans]
13. Osbert de Samara
14. John de Fereby
15. Robert, chaplain to Robert Fitzwalter with John I "Lackland" (?) King of England on 15 June 1215.9

Family 2

Agatha Trussebut d. 1247

Citations

  1. [S633] With additions and corrections by Walter Lee Sheppard Jr. and William R. Beall Frederick Lewis Weis, The Magna Charta Sureties, 1215 : The Barons Named in the Magna
    Charta, 1215 and Some of Their Descendants Who Settled in America
    During the Early Colonial Years, 5th Edition
    (Baltimore, MD, USA: Genealogical Publishine Co., Inc., unknown publish date), line 157-3, p. 188. Hereinafter cited as Weis MCS-5.
  2. [S1896] Douglas Richardson, "Richardson email 22 June 2005: "Extended Pedigree of Counts of Boulogne-sur-Mer"," e-mail message from e-mail address (https://groups.google.com/g/soc.genealogy.medieval/c/44eb7V2WEXc/m/5ixO37yx3noJ) to e-mail address, 22 June 2005. Hereinafter cited as "Richardson email 22 June 2005."
  3. [S633] With additions and corrections by Walter Lee Sheppard Jr. and William R. Beall Frederick Lewis Weis, Weis MCS-5, line 1-1, p. 1.
  4. [S1784] Douglas Richardson, "Richardson email 29 July 2005 "Re: Descendants of Sir Richard de Lucy and Rohese of Boulogne"," e-mail message from e-mail address (https://groups.google.com/g/soc.genealogy.medieval/c/F9_d7JZUuk0/m/5jgR9n064yQJ) to e-mail address, 29 July 2005. Hereinafter cited as "Richardson email 29 July 2005."
  5. [S632] Frederick Lewis Weis, Ancestral Roots of Certain American Colonists Who Came to America before 1700: The Lineage of Alfred the Great, Charlemagne, Malcolm of Scotland, Robert the Strong, and Some of Their Descendants, 7th edition (n.p.: Genealogical Publishing Co., Inc.
    Baltimore, 1992, unknown publish date), line 89-30, p. 88. Hereinafter cited as Weis AR-7.
  6. [S1793] David Utz, "Utz email #1 20 Aug 2005 "Descents from Rohese of Boulogne to Dannett ABNEY"," e-mail message from e-mail address (unknown address) to e-mail address, 20 Aug 2005. Hereinafter cited as "Utz email #1 20 Aug 2005."
  7. [S633] With additions and corrections by Walter Lee Sheppard Jr. and William R. Beall Frederick Lewis Weis, Weis MCS-5, line 1-2, p. 1.
  8. [S757] Compiled by Carl Boyer 3rd, Medieval English Ancestors of Certain Americans: Many of the English Ancestral Lines Prior to 1300 of those Colonial Americans with known Royal Ancestry but Fully Developed in all Possible Lines (PO Box 220333, Santa Clarita, CA 91322-0333: Carl Boyer 3rd, 2001), pp. 2-3. Hereinafter cited as Boyer [2001] Med English Ancestors.
  9. [S1953] Wikipedia: The Free Encyclopedia, online http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Main_Page, https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Magna_Carta. Hereinafter cited as Wikipedia.
  10. [S757] Compiled by Carl Boyer 3rd, Boyer [2001] Med English Ancestors, p. 3.
  11. [S633] With additions and corrections by Walter Lee Sheppard Jr. and William R. Beall Frederick Lewis Weis, Weis MCS-5, line 122A-4, p. 169.

Sir William de Ros of Helmsley1

M, #10408, d. circa 1264
FatherRobert "Furfan" de Ros of Helmsley in Holderness, co. York b. b 1185, d. b 23 Dec 1226
MotherIsabel (?) of Scotland2
ReferenceGAV20 EDV20
Last Edited3 Aug 2006
     Sir William de Ros of Helmsley married Lucy Fitz Piers of Brecknock, daughter of Peter (Piers) Fitz Herbert Lord of Blaen Llyfni and Alice de Warkworth.3,1
Sir William de Ros of Helmsley died circa 1264 at Poitou, France.3,4,1
     GAV-20 EDV-20 GKJ-20.

Sir William de Ros of Helmsley lived at Helmsley, Holderness, Yorkshire, England.4 He was Member of Parliament in 1235/36.3

Family

Lucy Fitz Piers of Brecknock d. a 1266
Children

Citations

  1. [S757] Compiled by Carl Boyer 3rd, Medieval English Ancestors of Certain Americans: Many of the English Ancestral Lines Prior to 1300 of those Colonial Americans with known Royal Ancestry but Fully Developed in all Possible Lines (PO Box 220333, Santa Clarita, CA 91322-0333: Carl Boyer 3rd, 2001), pp. 215-216, de ROS 5. Hereinafter cited as Boyer [2001] Med English Ancestors.
  2. [S1490] Genealogics Website (oiginated by Leo van de Pas, continued by Ian Fettes), online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Isabella of Scotland: http://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00002892&tree=LEO. Hereinafter cited as Genealogics Website.
  3. [S632] Frederick Lewis Weis, Ancestral Roots of Certain American Colonists Who Came to America before 1700: The Lineage of Alfred the Great, Charlemagne, Malcolm of Scotland, Robert the Strong, and Some of Their Descendants, 7th edition (n.p.: Genealogical Publishing Co., Inc.
    Baltimore, 1992, unknown publish date), line 89-28, p. 88. Hereinafter cited as Weis AR-7.
  4. [S633] With additions and corrections by Walter Lee Sheppard Jr. and William R. Beall Frederick Lewis Weis, The Magna Charta Sureties, 1215 : The Barons Named in the Magna
    Charta, 1215 and Some of Their Descendants Who Settled in America
    During the Early Colonial Years, 5th Edition
    (Baltimore, MD, USA: Genealogical Publishine Co., Inc., unknown publish date), line 116-2, p. 152. Hereinafter cited as Weis MCS-5.
  5. [S1396] Burke's Peerage & Gentry Web Site, online http://www.burkes-peerage.net/sites/peerageandgentry/sitepages/home.asp, de Ros Family Page. Hereinafter cited as Burke's Peerage & Gentry Web Site.
  6. [S1490] Genealogics Website, online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Sir william de Ros, of Ingmanthorpe: http://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00287522&tree=LEO

Lucy Fitz Piers of Brecknock

F, #10409, d. after 1266
FatherPeter (Piers) Fitz Herbert Lord of Blaen Llyfni b. b 1203, d. 1 Jun 1235
MotherAlice de Warkworth
ReferenceGAV20 EDV20
Last Edited14 Feb 2003
     Lucy Fitz Piers of Brecknock married Sir William de Ros of Helmsley, son of Robert "Furfan" de Ros of Helmsley in Holderness, co. York and Isabel (?) of Scotland.1,2
Lucy Fitz Piers of Brecknock died after 1266.3
     GAV-20 EDV-20.

Lucy Fitz Piers of Brecknock lived at Brecknock, Wales.

Family

Sir William de Ros of Helmsley d. c 1264
Children

Citations

  1. [S632] Frederick Lewis Weis, Ancestral Roots of Certain American Colonists Who Came to America before 1700: The Lineage of Alfred the Great, Charlemagne, Malcolm of Scotland, Robert the Strong, and Some of Their Descendants, 7th edition (n.p.: Genealogical Publishing Co., Inc.
    Baltimore, 1992, unknown publish date), line 89-28, p. 88. Hereinafter cited as Weis AR-7.
  2. [S757] Compiled by Carl Boyer 3rd, Medieval English Ancestors of Certain Americans: Many of the English Ancestral Lines Prior to 1300 of those Colonial Americans with known Royal Ancestry but Fully Developed in all Possible Lines (PO Box 220333, Santa Clarita, CA 91322-0333: Carl Boyer 3rd, 2001), pp. 215-216, de ROS 5. Hereinafter cited as Boyer [2001] Med English Ancestors.
  3. [S633] With additions and corrections by Walter Lee Sheppard Jr. and William R. Beall Frederick Lewis Weis, The Magna Charta Sureties, 1215 : The Barons Named in the Magna
    Charta, 1215 and Some of Their Descendants Who Settled in America
    During the Early Colonial Years, 5th Edition
    (Baltimore, MD, USA: Genealogical Publishine Co., Inc., unknown publish date), line 116-2, p. 152. Hereinafter cited as Weis MCS-5.
  4. [S1396] Burke's Peerage & Gentry Web Site, online http://www.burkes-peerage.net/sites/peerageandgentry/sitepages/home.asp, de Ros Family Page. Hereinafter cited as Burke's Peerage & Gentry Web Site.

Peter (Piers) Fitz Herbert Lord of Blaen Llyfni1,2,3

M, #10410, b. before 1203, d. 1 June 1235
FatherHerbert Fitz Herbert of Stanton, co. Wilts4,5,3 b. bt 1125 - 1135, d. b Jun 1204
MotherLucy (?) of Hereford, Lady of Blaen Llyfni and Bwich y Dinas, co. Brecknock6,7 b. b 1143, d. bt 1219 - 1220
ReferenceGAV21 EDV21
Last Edited15 Dec 2020
     Peter (Piers) Fitz Herbert Lord of Blaen Llyfni married Alice de Warkworth, daughter of Robert Fitz Roger 2nd Baron of Warkworth and Margaret/Margery de Chesney Lady of Horsford, by 28 Nov 1203.8,1 Peter (Piers) Fitz Herbert Lord of Blaen Llyfni married Isabel de Braiose, daughter of William II de Braiose 3rd Lord Bramber of Brecknock, Abergavenney, & Gowr and Bertha (?) de Gloucester-Hereford.9 Peter (Piers) Fitz Herbert Lord of Blaen Llyfni was born before 1203.1 He married Isabel (Milicent) de Ferrers, daughter of Walkelin de Ferrières Seigneur de Ferrieres-Saint-Hilaire et de Chambrai, Lord of Oackham and Lechlade and Alice Leche, circa 1215; her 2nd husband; Weis says m. in or before 1225; Racines et Histoire says m ca 1215.10,1,2
Peter (Piers) Fitz Herbert Lord of Blaen Llyfni died on 1 June 1235.8,11,1,4,2
     GAV-21 EDV-21 GKJ-21.

; weis 262-29.12

Peter (Piers) Fitz Herbert Lord of Blaen Llyfni lived at Brecknock, Wales.13
; signed Magna Carta.
Counsellors named in Magna Carta
     "The preamble to Magna Carta includes the names of the following 27 ecclesiastical and secular magnates who had counselled John to accept its terms. The names include some of the moderate reformers, notably Archbishop Stephen Langton, and some of John's loyal supporters, such as William Marshal, Earl of Pembroke. They are listed here in the order in which they appear in the charter itself:[62]
1. Stephen Langton, Archbishop of Canterbury and Cardinal
2. Henry de Loundres, Archbishop of Dublin
3. William of Sainte-Mère-Église, Bishop of London
4. Peter des Roches, Bishop of Winchester
5. Jocelin of Wells, Bishop of Bath and Glastonbury
6. Hugh of Wells, Bishop of Lincoln
7. Walter de Gray, Bishop of Worcester
8. William de Cornhill, Bishop of Coventry
9. Benedict of Sausetun, Bishop of Rochester
10. Pandulf Verraccio, subdeacon and papal legate to England
11. Eymeric, Master of the Knights Templar in England
12. William Marshal, Earl of Pembroke
13. William Longespée, Earl of Salisbury
14. William de Warenne, Earl of Surrey
15. William d'Aubigny, Earl of Arundel
16. Alan of Galloway, Constable of Scotland
17. Warin FitzGerold
18. Peter FitzHerbert
19 Hubert de Burgh, Seneschal of Poitou
20. Hugh de Neville
21. Matthew FitzHerbert
22. Thomas Basset
23. Alan Basset
24. Philip d'Aubigny
25. Robert of Ropsley
26. John Marshal
27. John FitzHugh

The Council of Twenty-Five Barons
     "The names of the Twenty-Five Barons appointed under clause 61 to monitor John's future conduct are not given in the charter itself, but do appear in four early sources, all seemingly based on a contemporary listing: a late 13th-century collection of law tracts and statutes, a Reading Abbey manuscript now in Lambeth Palace Library, and the Chronica Majora and Liber Additamentorum of Matthew Paris.[63][64][65] The process of appointment is not known, but the names were drawn almost exclusively from among John's more active opponents.[66] They are listed here in the order in which they appear in the original sources:
1. Richard de Clare, Earl of Hertford
2. William de Forz, Earl of Albemarle
3. Geoffrey de Mandeville, Earl of Essex and Gloucester
4. Saer de Quincy, Earl of Winchester
5. Henry de Bohun, Earl of Hereford
6. Roger Bigod, Earl of Norfolk and Suffolk
7. Robert de Vere, Earl of Oxford
8. William Marshal junior
9. Robert Fitzwalter, baron of Little Dunmow
10. Gilbert de Clare, heir to the earldom of Hertford
11. Eustace de Vesci, Lord of Alnwick Castle
12. Hugh Bigod, heir to the Earldoms of Norfolk and Suffolk
13. William de Mowbray, Lord of Axholme Castle
14. William Hardell, Mayor of the City of London
15. William de Lanvallei, Lord of Walkern
16. Robert de Ros, Baron of Helmsley
17. John de Lacy, Constable of Chester and Lord of Pontefract Castle
18. Richard de Percy
19. John FitzRobert de Clavering, Lord of Warkworth Castle
20. William Malet
21. Geoffrey de Saye
22. Roger de Montbegon, Lord of Hornby Castle, Lancashire[f]
23. William of Huntingfield, Sheriff of Norfolk and Suffolk
24. Richard de Montfichet
25. William d'Aubigny, Lord of Belvoir

Excommunicated rebels
     "In September 1215, the papal commissioners in England – Subdeacon Pandulf, Peter des Roches, Bishop of Winchester, and Simon, Abbot of Reading – excommunicated the rebels, acting on instructions earlier received from Rome. A letter sent by the commissioners from Dover on 5 September to Archbishop Langton explicitly names nine senior rebel barons (all members of the Council of Twenty-Five), and six clerics numbered among the rebel ranks:[67]
Barons
1. Robert Fitzwalter
2. Saer de Quincy, Earl of Winchester
3. Richard de Clare, Earl of Hertford
4. Geoffrey de Mandeville, Earl of Essex and Gloucester
5. Eustace de Vesci
6. Richard de Percy
7. John de Lacy, Constable of Chester
8. William d'Aubigny
9. William de Mowbray
Clerics
10. Giles de Braose, Bishop of Hereford
11. William, Archdeacon of Hereford
12. Alexander the clerk [possibly Alexander of St Albans]
13. Osbert de Samara
14. John de Fereby
15. Robert, chaplain to Robert Fitzwalter.14

Family 3

Isabel (Milicent) de Ferrers b. bt 1164 - 1165, d. b 29 Apr 1252

Citations

  1. [S757] Compiled by Carl Boyer 3rd, Medieval English Ancestors of Certain Americans: Many of the English Ancestral Lines Prior to 1300 of those Colonial Americans with known Royal Ancestry but Fully Developed in all Possible Lines (PO Box 220333, Santa Clarita, CA 91322-0333: Carl Boyer 3rd, 2001), p. 96, Fitz PIERS 4. Hereinafter cited as Boyer [2001] Med English Ancestors.
  2. [S2280] Racines et Histoire, online http://racineshistoire.free.fr/LGN/LGN-frameset.html, http://racineshistoire.free.fr/LGN/PDF/Ferrers.pdf: p. 2. Hereinafter cited as Racines et Histoire.
  3. [S2372] Frederick Lewis Weis, Ancestral Roots of Certain American Colonists Who Came to America before 1700: The Lineage of Alfred the Great, Charlemagne, Malcolm of Scotland, Robert the Strong, and Some of Their Descendants, 8th ed. w/ additions by Wm R. and Kaleen E. Beall (Baltimore, 1992: Genealogical Publishing Co., Inc., 2004), Line 237-6, p. 215.. Hereinafter cited as Weis [2004] "Ancestral Roots" 8th ed.
  4. [S1820] John P. Ravilious, "Ravilious email 22 Oct 2004 "Stanton FitzWarren, co. Wilts. and the Descendants of Sibyl Corbet"," e-mail message from e-mail address (unknown address) to e-mail address, 22 Oct 2004. Hereinafter cited as "Ravilious email 22 Oct 2004."
  5. [S1490] Genealogics Website (oiginated by Leo van de Pas, continued by Ian Fettes), online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Herbert FitzHerbert: https://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00284743&tree=LEO. Hereinafter cited as Genealogics Website.
  6. [S1490] Genealogics Website, online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Lucy of Hereford: https://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00284744&tree=LEO
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