Sir John Darcy Knt., 5th Lord Darcy of Knayth, 4th Lord Meinell1,2,3

M, #5791, b. between 1376 and 1377, d. 9 December 1411
FatherPhilip Darcy 4th Lord Darcy of Knayth1,2,3 b. 21 May 1352, d. 24 Apr 1399
MotherElizabeth Gray1,2,3 b. c 1352, d. 11 Aug 1412
ReferenceEDV16 GKJ17
Last Edited27 Dec 2008
     Sir John Darcy Knt., 5th Lord Darcy of Knayth, 4th Lord Meinell was born between 1376 and 1377.4,1,3 He married Margaret Grey, daughter of Sir Henry de Grey Knt., 5th Lord Grey of Wilton and Elizabeth Talbot, before 9 July 1397; her 1st husband.5,6,1,2,7,3
Sir John Darcy Knt., 5th Lord Darcy of Knayth, 4th Lord Meinell died on 9 December 1411; died testate.4,1,3

His estate was probated on 18 February 1412.2

     EDV-16 GKJ-17.

; JOHN DARCY, 5th Lord (Baron) Darcy de Knayth; b c 1376/7; m Margaret Grey (m 2nd by 12 July 1421, as his 2nd w, Sir Thomas Swinford (d 2 April 1432), of Kettlethorpe, Lincs, and d 1 June 1454), dau of 5th Lord (Baron) Grey (of Wilton) (see GREY, B), and d 9 Dec 1411, leaving issue (with four daus).1 He was 5th Lord (Baron) Darcy de Knayth.5,1

; Faris (1999, p. 110): [quote] MARGARET GREY, was married to JOHN DARCY, 4th Lord Darcy of Knaith, son and heir of Philip Darcy, 3rd Lord Darcy of Knaith (of Magna Carta Surety descent and descendant of Charlemagne), by Elizabeth, daughter of Thomas Gray, Knt., of Heton, Northumberland. He was born about 1376 (aged twenty-two and more or twenty-three and more at father's death). They had two sons and three daughters. He was summoned to Parliament from 19 Aug. 1399 by writs directed Johanni Darcy. JOHN DARCY, Lord Darcy, died testate on 9 Dec. 1411 (will dated at his Manor of Temple Hurst on 2 Aug. 1411, proved 18 Feb. 1411/2) (M.1. at Selby). On 14 June 1412 she had a grant of £4O a year from her late husband's lands because of her poor estate and to maintain a son and four daughters yet unmarried. His widow was married for the second time before 12 July 1421 to THOMAS SWINFORD, Knt.. of Kettlethorpe, co. Lincoln (born about 1368, died 2 Apr. 1432), son of Hugh de Swinford, Knt., of Colby, co. Lincoln, by his wife, Katherine de Roët. "Margaret, lady Darcy" died testate (P.C.C., 18 Chedworth) on 1 June 1454.
Banks (1844), p. 179. H.S.P. 16:91 (1881) (1563 Vis. Yorks). York.Arch.Jour. 12:288 (1893) (arms: Semée of crosses crosslet, three cinquefoils). Clay (1913), p. 42. C.P. 4:63-65 (1916) (no reservation in identification of mother of Margaret de Grey). TAG 21:169-177 (Jan. 1945) (descent of Mary Launce from King Edward I).
Children of John Darcy, by Margaret Grey:
i.     PHILIP DARCY [see next]
ii.     JOHN DARCY, married JOAN GREYSTOKE [see LAUNCE 7]. [end quote]8,4,9

; van de Pas cites: 1. A Genealogical History of the dormant, abeyant, forfeited and extinct peerages of the British Empire, London, 1866, Burke, Sir Bernard, Reference: 156
2. Americans of Royal Descent, 7th edition, Baltimore, 1969 , Browning, Charles H., Reference: 296
3. The Complete Peerage, 1936 , Doubleday, H.A. & Lord Howard de Walden, Reference: IV 63.3

Sir John Darcy Knt., 5th Lord Darcy of Knayth, 4th Lord Meinell left a will on 2 August 1411 at Temple Hurst, Yorkshire, England.2

Family

Margaret Grey b. c 1380, d. 1 Jun 1454
Children

Citations

  1. [S1396] Burke's Peerage & Gentry Web Site, online http://www.burkes-peerage.net/sites/peerageandgentry/sitepages/home.asp, Darcy de Knayth Family Page. Hereinafter cited as Burke's Peerage & Gentry Web Site.
  2. [S2261] Douglas Richardson, Plantagenet Ancestry: A Study in Colonial and Medieval Families, 1st edition (n.p.: Genealogical Publishing Company, Inc., 2004), Darcy 11: p. 256. Hereinafter cited as Richardson PA.
  3. [S1490] Genealogics Website (oiginated by Leo van de Pas, continued by Ian Fettes), online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, John Darcy: http://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00108549&tree=LEO. Hereinafter cited as Genealogics Website.
  4. [S632] Frederick Lewis Weis, Ancestral Roots of Certain American Colonists Who Came to America before 1700: The Lineage of Alfred the Great, Charlemagne, Malcolm of Scotland, Robert the Strong, and Some of Their Descendants, 7th edition (n.p.: Genealogical Publishing Co., Inc.
    Baltimore, 1992, unknown publish date), line 13-33, p. 17. Hereinafter cited as Weis AR-7.
  5. [S633] With additions and corrections by Walter Lee Sheppard Jr. and William R. Beall Frederick Lewis Weis, The Magna Charta Sureties, 1215 : The Barons Named in the Magna
    Charta, 1215 and Some of Their Descendants Who Settled in America
    During the Early Colonial Years, 5th Edition
    (Baltimore, MD, USA: Genealogical Publishine Co., Inc., unknown publish date), line 26-9, p. 33. Hereinafter cited as Weis MCS-5.
  6. [S1396] Burke's Peerage & Gentry Web Site, online http://www.burkes-peerage.net/sites/peerageandgentry/sitepages/home.asp, Grey, Baron Family Page.
  7. [S1490] Genealogics Website, online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Margaret Grey: http://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00108550&tree=LEO
  8. [S677] Jr. Christos Christou, GEDCOM file imported on 12 Feb 1999. Supplied by Christos Christou, Jr. - e-mail address (n.p.: Christos Christou, Jr.
    303 Nicholson Road
    Baltimore, MD 21221-6609
    Email: e-mail address, 1999).
  9. [S673] David Faris, Plantagenet Ancestry of Seventeenth-Century Colonists: The Descent from the Later Plantagenet Kings of England, Henry III, Edward I, and Edward III, of Emigrants from England and Wales to the North American Colonies before 1701, English Ancestry Series, Volume 1, Second Edition (Boston, MA: New England Historic Genealogical Society, 1999), pp. 110-111. Hereinafter cited as Faris [1999] - Plantagenet Ancestry.
  10. [S1490] Genealogics Website, online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Philip Darcy: http://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00199725&tree=LEO
  11. [S673] David Faris, Faris [1999] - Plantagenet Ancestry, p. 209.
  12. [S1490] Genealogics Website, online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, John Darcy: http://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00108551&tree=LEO
  13. [S2261] Douglas Richardson, Richardson PA, Launce 12: p. 441.

Margaret Grey1,2

F, #5792, b. circa 1380, d. 1 June 1454
FatherSir Henry de Grey Knt., 5th Lord Grey of Wilton3,2 b. c 1335, d. 22 Apr 1396
MotherElizabeth Talbot2 b. c 1355, d. 10 Jan 1402
ReferenceEDV16 GKJ17
Last Edited30 Sep 2019
     Margaret Grey was born circa 1380. She married Sir John Darcy Knt., 5th Lord Darcy of Knayth, 4th Lord Meinell, son of Philip Darcy 4th Lord Darcy of Knayth and Elizabeth Gray, before 9 July 1397; her 1st husband.4,5,3,1,2,6 Margaret Grey married Sir Thomas Swynford of Kettlethorpe, son of Sir Hugh Swynford and Katherine de Roet Duchess of Lancaster, before 12 July 1421; her 2nd husband, his 2nd wife.7,5,3,1,2,8
Margaret Grey died on 1 June 1454; died testate.9,5,3,1,2
     EDV-16 GKJ-17.

; van de Pas cites:
     1. A Genealogical History of the dormant, abeyant, forfeited and extinct peerages of the British Empire, London, 1866, Burke, Sir Bernard, Reference: 156
     2. Americans of Royal Descent, 7th edition, Baltimore, 1969 , Browning, Charles H., Reference: 296
     3. The Complete Peerage, 1936 , Doubleday, H.A. & Lord Howard de Walden, Reference: IV 63.2

; Charlemagne Desc.10

Family 2

Sir Thomas Swynford of Kettlethorpe b. c 1368, d. 2 Apr 1432

Citations

  1. [S2261] Douglas Richardson, Plantagenet Ancestry: A Study in Colonial and Medieval Families, 1st edition (n.p.: Genealogical Publishing Company, Inc., 2004), Darcy 11: p. 256. Hereinafter cited as Richardson PA.
  2. [S1490] Genealogics Website (oiginated by Leo van de Pas, continued by Ian Fettes), online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Margaret Grey: http://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00108550&tree=LEO. Hereinafter cited as Genealogics Website.
  3. [S1396] Burke's Peerage & Gentry Web Site, online http://www.burkes-peerage.net/sites/peerageandgentry/sitepages/home.asp, Darcy de Knayth Family Page. Hereinafter cited as Burke's Peerage & Gentry Web Site.
  4. [S633] With additions and corrections by Walter Lee Sheppard Jr. and William R. Beall Frederick Lewis Weis, The Magna Charta Sureties, 1215 : The Barons Named in the Magna
    Charta, 1215 and Some of Their Descendants Who Settled in America
    During the Early Colonial Years, 5th Edition
    (Baltimore, MD, USA: Genealogical Publishine Co., Inc., unknown publish date), line 26-9, p. 33. Hereinafter cited as Weis MCS-5.
  5. [S1396] Burke's Peerage & Gentry Web Site, online http://www.burkes-peerage.net/sites/peerageandgentry/sitepages/home.asp, Grey, Baron Family Page.
  6. [S1490] Genealogics Website, online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, John Darcy: http://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00108549&tree=LEO
  7. [S673] David Faris, Plantagenet Ancestry of Seventeenth-Century Colonists: The Descent from the Later Plantagenet Kings of England, Henry III, Edward I, and Edward III, of Emigrants from England and Wales to the North American Colonies before 1701, English Ancestry Series, Volume 1, Second Edition (Boston, MA: New England Historic Genealogical Society, 1999), p. 110. Hereinafter cited as Faris [1999] - Plantagenet Ancestry.
  8. [S1490] Genealogics Website, online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Sir Thomas Swynford, of Kettlethorpe: https://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00314890&tree=LEO
  9. [S632] Frederick Lewis Weis, Ancestral Roots of Certain American Colonists Who Came to America before 1700: The Lineage of Alfred the Great, Charlemagne, Malcolm of Scotland, Robert the Strong, and Some of Their Descendants, 7th edition (n.p.: Genealogical Publishing Co., Inc.
    Baltimore, 1992, unknown publish date), line 13-33, p. 17. Hereinafter cited as Weis AR-7.
  10. [S677] Jr. Christos Christou, GEDCOM file imported on 12 Feb 1999. Supplied by Christos Christou, Jr. - e-mail address (n.p.: Christos Christou, Jr.
    303 Nicholson Road
    Baltimore, MD 21221-6609
    Email: e-mail address, 1999).
  11. [S1490] Genealogics Website, online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Philip Darcy: http://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00199725&tree=LEO
  12. [S673] David Faris, Faris [1999] - Plantagenet Ancestry, p. 209.
  13. [S1490] Genealogics Website, online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, John Darcy: http://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00108551&tree=LEO
  14. [S2261] Douglas Richardson, Richardson PA, Launce 12: p. 441.

Sir Henry de Grey Knt., 5th Lord Grey of Wilton

M, #5793, b. circa 1335, d. 22 April 1396
FatherSir Reginald de Grey Knt., 4th Lord Grey of Wilton b. 1 Nov 1311, d. bt 28 May 1370 - 4 Jun 1370
MotherMaude de la Vache1 d. 14 Sep 1391
ReferenceEDV17 GKJ18
Last Edited6 Oct 2017
     Sir Henry de Grey Knt., 5th Lord Grey of Wilton was born circa 1335 at Wilton, Herefordshire, England. He was born circa 1340.2 He married Elizabeth Talbot, daughter of Sir Gilbert Talbot 3rd Lord Talbot and Lady Pernel Butler, before 3 February 1379/80.3,2
Sir Henry de Grey Knt., 5th Lord Grey of Wilton died on 22 April 1396.2
     EDV-17 GKJ-18.

Sir Henry de Grey Knt., 5th Lord Grey of Wilton lived at Wilton, Herefordshire, England.3 He was 5th Lord Grey of Wilton.2

; Lord Grey of Wilton on Wye
* * * * * * * * * *
Faris (1999, p. 375): "ELIZABETH TALBOT, daughter, it is said, was married before 3 Feb. 1379/80 to HENRY DE GREY, Knt., 5th Lord Grey, of Wilton, co. Hereford, son and heir of Reynold de Grey, 4th Lord of Wilton (of Magna Carta Surety descent and descendant of Charlemagne), by his wife Maud, said to have been daughter of John de Botetourt, Knit., of Weoley, co. Worcester. He was born about 1338 or 1340 (aged twenty eight or thirty and more at father's death). He fought in Gascony in 1366. He was summoned to Parliament on 1 Dec. 1376 by a writ directed Henrico de Grey de Shirlond', and from 4 Aug. 1377 by writs directed Henrico de Grey de Wilton'. HENRY GREY, Lord Grey, died on 22 Apr. 1396. She died on 10 Jan. 1401/2.
C.P. 4:63-65 (1916) (no reservation on identification of wife), 6:177-178 (1926) (reservation on identity of wife). Page! (1957) 260:5 (no source cited for identification of wife).
Children of Henry de Grey, by Elizabeth Talbot:
i.     RICHARD GREY [see next].
ii.     MARGARET GREY, married JOHN DARCY [see DARCY 10].1."4,5

Family

Elizabeth Talbot b. c 1355, d. 10 Jan 1402
Children

Citations

  1. [S1490] Genealogics Website (oiginated by Leo van de Pas, continued by Ian Fettes), online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Maud de la Vache: http://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00127844&tree=LEO. Hereinafter cited as Genealogics Website.
  2. [S1396] Burke's Peerage & Gentry Web Site, online http://www.burkes-peerage.net/sites/peerageandgentry/sitepages/home.asp, Grey, Baron Family Page. Hereinafter cited as Burke's Peerage & Gentry Web Site.
  3. [S673] David Faris, Plantagenet Ancestry of Seventeenth-Century Colonists: The Descent from the Later Plantagenet Kings of England, Henry III, Edward I, and Edward III, of Emigrants from England and Wales to the North American Colonies before 1701, English Ancestry Series, Volume 1, Second Edition (Boston, MA: New England Historic Genealogical Society, 1999), p. 375. Hereinafter cited as Faris [1999] - Plantagenet Ancestry.
  4. [S677] Jr. Christos Christou, GEDCOM file imported on 12 Feb 1999. Supplied by Christos Christou, Jr. - e-mail address (n.p.: Christos Christou, Jr.
    303 Nicholson Road
    Baltimore, MD 21221-6609
    Email: e-mail address, 1999).
  5. [S632] Frederick Lewis Weis, Ancestral Roots of Certain American Colonists Who Came to America before 1700: The Lineage of Alfred the Great, Charlemagne, Malcolm of Scotland, Robert the Strong, and Some of Their Descendants, 7th edition (n.p.: Genealogical Publishing Co., Inc.
    Baltimore, 1992, unknown publish date), line 13-33, p. 17. Hereinafter cited as Weis AR-7.
  6. [S1396] Burke's Peerage & Gentry Web Site, online http://www.burkes-peerage.net/sites/peerageandgentry/sitepages/home.asp, Darcy de Knayth Family Page.
  7. [S1490] Genealogics Website, online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Margaret Grey: http://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00108550&tree=LEO

Elizabeth Talbot

F, #5794, b. circa 1355, d. 10 January 1402
FatherSir Gilbert Talbot 3rd Lord Talbot1,2 b. c 1332, d. 24 Apr 1387
MotherLady Pernel Butler b. c 1332, d. bt 28 May 1365 - 1368
ReferenceEDV17 GKJ18
Last Edited4 Sep 2008
     Elizabeth Talbot was born circa 1355. She married Sir Henry de Grey Knt., 5th Lord Grey of Wilton, son of Sir Reginald de Grey Knt., 4th Lord Grey of Wilton and Maude de la Vache, before 3 February 1379/80.3,1
Elizabeth Talbot died on 10 January 1402.
     EDV-17 GKJ-18.

; History of Rutland p 162f

Per MCS4 26-8. She is said to not be a daughter of Gilbert Talbot, however per
CP XII (1) p 614.4,5

Family

Sir Henry de Grey Knt., 5th Lord Grey of Wilton b. c 1335, d. 22 Apr 1396
Children

Citations

  1. [S1396] Burke's Peerage & Gentry Web Site, online http://www.burkes-peerage.net/sites/peerageandgentry/sitepages/home.asp, Grey, Baron Family Page. Hereinafter cited as Burke's Peerage & Gentry Web Site.
  2. [S1490] Genealogics Website (oiginated by Leo van de Pas, continued by Ian Fettes), online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Gilbert Talbot: http://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00028780&tree=LEO. Hereinafter cited as Genealogics Website.
  3. [S673] David Faris, Plantagenet Ancestry of Seventeenth-Century Colonists: The Descent from the Later Plantagenet Kings of England, Henry III, Edward I, and Edward III, of Emigrants from England and Wales to the North American Colonies before 1701, English Ancestry Series, Volume 1, Second Edition (Boston, MA: New England Historic Genealogical Society, 1999), p. 375. Hereinafter cited as Faris [1999] - Plantagenet Ancestry.
  4. [S677] Jr. Christos Christou, GEDCOM file imported on 12 Feb 1999. Supplied by Christos Christou, Jr. - e-mail address (n.p.: Christos Christou, Jr.
    303 Nicholson Road
    Baltimore, MD 21221-6609
    Email: e-mail address, 1999).
  5. [S633] With additions and corrections by Walter Lee Sheppard Jr. and William R. Beall Frederick Lewis Weis, The Magna Charta Sureties, 1215 : The Barons Named in the Magna
    Charta, 1215 and Some of Their Descendants Who Settled in America
    During the Early Colonial Years, 5th Edition
    (Baltimore, MD, USA: Genealogical Publishine Co., Inc., unknown publish date), line 26-9, p. 33: Weiss states that Elizabeth is not the dau of Gilbert TALBOT and Petronilla BUTLER. Hereinafter cited as Weis MCS-5.
  6. [S1490] Genealogics Website, online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Margaret Grey: http://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00108550&tree=LEO

Sir Reginald de Grey Knt., 4th Lord Grey of Wilton1,2

M, #5795, b. 1 November 1311, d. between 28 May 1370 and 4 June 1370
FatherHenry de Grey 3rd Lord Grey of Wilton1,3,2 b. 28 Oct 1282, d. 16 Dec 1342
MotherAnne de Rockley4,2 b. c 1282
ReferenceEDV18 GKJ19
Last Edited7 Sep 2008
     Sir Reginald de Grey Knt., 4th Lord Grey of Wilton was born on 1 November 1311 at Wilton, Herefordshire, England.5,2 He married Maude de la Vache before 10 January 1328.6,2
Sir Reginald de Grey Knt., 4th Lord Grey of Wilton died between 28 May 1370 and 4 June 1370 at Shirland.5,2
     EDV-18 GKJ-19.

; REYNOLD GREY, 4th LORD (Baron) GREY (of Wilton); b 1 Nov 1311; m by 10 Jan 1327/8 Maud, allegedly dau of Sir John de Botetourt, of Weo(b)ley, Worcs, and d 28 May or 4 June 1370.5 He was 4th Lord (Baron) Grey of Wilton.5

; van de Pas cites: 1. The Complete Peerage, 1936 , Doubleday, H.A. & Lord Howard de Walden, Reference: VI 176
2. A Genealogical History of the dormant, abeyant, forfeited and extinct peerages of the British Empire, London, 1866, Burke, Sir Bernard, Reference: 246.7,8,2 Sir Reginald de Grey Knt., 4th Lord Grey of Wilton was also known as Reynold Grey 4th Lord Grey of Wilton.5

Family

Maude de la Vache d. 14 Sep 1391
Children

Citations

  1. [S2261] Douglas Richardson, Plantagenet Ancestry: A Study in Colonial and Medieval Families, 1st edition (n.p.: Genealogical Publishing Company, Inc., 2004), Digges: p. 271. Hereinafter cited as Richardson PA.
  2. [S1490] Genealogics Website (oiginated by Leo van de Pas, continued by Ian Fettes), online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Reginald Grey: http://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00127843&tree=LEO. Hereinafter cited as Genealogics Website.
  3. [S1490] Genealogics Website, online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Henry de Grey: http://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00127841&tree=LEO
  4. [S1490] Genealogics Website, online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Anne de Rockley: http://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00127842&tree=LEO
  5. [S1396] Burke's Peerage & Gentry Web Site, online http://www.burkes-peerage.net/sites/peerageandgentry/sitepages/home.asp, Grey, Baron Family Page. Hereinafter cited as Burke's Peerage & Gentry Web Site.
  6. [S1490] Genealogics Website, online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Maud de la Vache: http://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00127844&tree=LEO
  7. [S677] Jr. Christos Christou, GEDCOM file imported on 12 Feb 1999. Supplied by Christos Christou, Jr. - e-mail address (n.p.: Christos Christou, Jr.
    303 Nicholson Road
    Baltimore, MD 21221-6609
    Email: e-mail address, 1999).
  8. [S673] David Faris, Plantagenet Ancestry of Seventeenth-Century Colonists: The Descent from the Later Plantagenet Kings of England, Henry III, Edward I, and Edward III, of Emigrants from England and Wales to the North American Colonies before 1701, English Ancestry Series, Volume 1, Second Edition (Boston, MA: New England Historic Genealogical Society, 1999), p. 375: "...of Magna Carta Surety descent and descendant of Charlemagne". Hereinafter cited as Faris [1999] - Plantagenet Ancestry.
  9. [S2261] Douglas Richardson, Richardson PA, Digges 10: p. 271.

Maud Botetourte

F, #5796, b. circa 1312, d. 14 September 1391
FatherSir John Botetourte Knt., 3rd Lord Botetourte, of Mendlesham, Suffolk1 b. c 1330, d. 1377
MotherKatherine Weyland2 b. c 1333, d. a 1377
Last Edited9 Nov 2008
     Maud Botetourte was born circa 1312.
Maud Botetourte died on 14 September 1391 at Shirland.
     

Citations

  1. [S1396] Burke's Peerage & Gentry Web Site, online http://www.burkes-peerage.net/sites/peerageandgentry/sitepages/home.asp, Grey, Baron Family Page. Hereinafter cited as Burke's Peerage & Gentry Web Site.
  2. [S920] e-mail address, online http://worldconnect.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/igm.cgi?db=ulsterboyd, Ronald E. Boyd (unknown location), downloaded updated 9 May 2001, http://worldconnect.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/igm.cgi?op=GET&db=ulsterboyd&id=I32222
  3. [S677] Jr. Christos Christou, GEDCOM file imported on 12 Feb 1999. Supplied by Christos Christou, Jr. - e-mail address (n.p.: Christos Christou, Jr.
    303 Nicholson Road
    Baltimore, MD 21221-6609
    Email: e-mail address, 1999).

Henry de Grey 3rd Lord Grey of Wilton1

M, #5797, b. 28 October 1282, d. 16 December 1342
FatherJohn de Grey 2nd Lord Grey of Wilton1,2 b. c 1268, d. 28 Oct 1323
MotherAnne de Ferrers1,3 b. 1264
ReferenceEDV19 GKJ20
Last Edited4 Jan 2009
     Henry de Grey 3rd Lord Grey of Wilton married Anne de Rockley, daughter of Richard de Rockley and Isabella de Clare.4,5,1,6 Henry de Grey 3rd Lord Grey of Wilton was born on 28 October 1282 at Wilton, Herefordshire, England; Burke's Peerage says 1281 or 1282.5,1
Henry de Grey 3rd Lord Grey of Wilton died on 16 December 1342 at age 60.5,1
     EDV-19 GKJ-20. He was 3rd LORD (Baron) GREY (of Wilton.)5

; HENRY De GREY, 3rd LORD (Baron) GREY (of Wilton); b 28 Oct 1281 or 1282; m allegedly Anne, dau of Ralph de Rockley, and d 10 or 16 Dec 1342.5

; van de Pas cites: 1. The Complete Peerage, 1936 , Doubleday, H.A. & Lord Howard de Walden, Reference: VI 175
2. A Genealogical History of the dormant, abeyant, forfeited and extinct peerages of the British Empire, London, 1866, Burke, Sir Bernard, Reference: 246.4,1

Family

Anne de Rockley b. c 1282
Child

Citations

  1. [S1490] Genealogics Website (oiginated by Leo van de Pas, continued by Ian Fettes), online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Henry de Grey: http://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00127841&tree=LEO. Hereinafter cited as Genealogics Website.
  2. [S1490] Genealogics Website, online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, John de Grey: http://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00127832&tree=LEO
  3. [S1490] Genealogics Website, online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Anne Ferrers: http://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00127833&tree=LEO
  4. [S677] Jr. Christos Christou, GEDCOM file imported on 12 Feb 1999. Supplied by Christos Christou, Jr. - e-mail address (n.p.: Christos Christou, Jr.
    303 Nicholson Road
    Baltimore, MD 21221-6609
    Email: e-mail address, 1999).
  5. [S1396] Burke's Peerage & Gentry Web Site, online http://www.burkes-peerage.net/sites/peerageandgentry/sitepages/home.asp, Grey, Baron Family Page. Hereinafter cited as Burke's Peerage & Gentry Web Site.
  6. [S1490] Genealogics Website, online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Anne de Rockley: http://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00127842&tree=LEO
  7. [S2261] Douglas Richardson, Plantagenet Ancestry: A Study in Colonial and Medieval Families, 1st edition (n.p.: Genealogical Publishing Company, Inc., 2004), Digges: p. 271. Hereinafter cited as Richardson PA.
  8. [S1490] Genealogics Website, online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Reginald Grey: http://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00127843&tree=LEO

Anne de Rockley1

F, #5798, b. circa 1282
FatherRichard de Rockley2 b. c 1260
MotherIsabella de Clare b. c 1260
ReferenceEDV19 GKJ20
Last Edited7 Sep 2008
     Anne de Rockley married Henry de Grey 3rd Lord Grey of Wilton, son of John de Grey 2nd Lord Grey of Wilton and Anne de Ferrers.3,2,4,1 Anne de Rockley was born circa 1282.
     ; van de Pas cites: The Complete Peerage, 1936 , Doubleday, H.A. & Lord Howard de Walden, Reference: VI 175.1 EDV-19 GKJ-20.

; History of Rutland Baron Grey p 162f.3

Family

Henry de Grey 3rd Lord Grey of Wilton b. 28 Oct 1282, d. 16 Dec 1342
Child

Citations

  1. [S1490] Genealogics Website (oiginated by Leo van de Pas, continued by Ian Fettes), online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Anne de Rockley: http://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00127842&tree=LEO. Hereinafter cited as Genealogics Website.
  2. [S1396] Burke's Peerage & Gentry Web Site, online http://www.burkes-peerage.net/sites/peerageandgentry/sitepages/home.asp, Grey, Baron Family Page. Hereinafter cited as Burke's Peerage & Gentry Web Site.
  3. [S677] Jr. Christos Christou, GEDCOM file imported on 12 Feb 1999. Supplied by Christos Christou, Jr. - e-mail address (n.p.: Christos Christou, Jr.
    303 Nicholson Road
    Baltimore, MD 21221-6609
    Email: e-mail address, 1999).
  4. [S1490] Genealogics Website, online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Henry de Grey: http://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00127841&tree=LEO
  5. [S1490] Genealogics Website, online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Reginald Grey: http://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00127843&tree=LEO

Anne de Ferrers1,2

F, #5799, b. 1264
FatherSir William de Ferrers Baron Ferrers of Groby, co Leicester1,2 b. c 1240, d. 24 Jan 1288/89
MotherAnne le Despenser1,3,2
ReferenceEDV20 GKJ21
Last Edited25 Dec 2013
     Anne de Ferrers was born in 1264 at Groby, Leicestershire, England. She married John de Grey 2nd Lord Grey of Wilton, son of Reginald de Grey 1st Lord Grey of Wilton and Maud de Longchamp, in 1285.4,5,1,2
     ; van de Pas cites: 1. The Complete Peerage, 1936 , Doubleday, H.A. & Lord Howard de Walden, Reference: VI 173
2. A Genealogical History of the dormant, abeyant, forfeited and extinct peerages of the British Empire, London, 1866, Burke, Sir Bernard, Reference: 245.2 EDV-20 GKJ-21. Anne de Ferrers was also known as Anne Ferrers.2

; of Groby
History of Rutland 1st wife.6,5

Family

John de Grey 2nd Lord Grey of Wilton b. c 1268, d. 28 Oct 1323
Children

Citations

  1. [S1429] Unknown compiler, Notable British Families 1600s-1900s from Burke's Peerage., CD-ROM (n.p.: Broderbund Software Company, 1999), Notable British Families, Burke's "Dormant, Abeyant, Forfeited, and Extinct Peerages" (Gen. Pub. Co., Baltimore, 1985 reprint of 1883 edition), Ferrers - Barons Ferrers of Groby, co. Leicester, p. 198. Hereinafter cited as Notable British Families CD # 367.
  2. [S1490] Genealogics Website (oiginated by Leo van de Pas, continued by Ian Fettes), online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Anne Ferrers: http://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00127833&tree=LEO. Hereinafter cited as Genealogics Website.
  3. [S1490] Genealogics Website, online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Anne le Despenser: http://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00177540&tree=LEO
  4. [S1490] Genealogics Website, online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, John de Grey: http://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00127832&tree=LEO
  5. [S1396] Burke's Peerage & Gentry Web Site, online http://www.burkes-peerage.net/sites/peerageandgentry/sitepages/home.asp, Grey, Baron Family Page. Hereinafter cited as Burke's Peerage & Gentry Web Site.
  6. [S677] Jr. Christos Christou, GEDCOM file imported on 12 Feb 1999. Supplied by Christos Christou, Jr. - e-mail address (n.p.: Christos Christou, Jr.
    303 Nicholson Road
    Baltimore, MD 21221-6609
    Email: e-mail address, 1999).
  7. [S812] e-mail address, online http://worldconnect.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/igm.cgi?db=bferris, Jr. William R. Ferris (unknown location), downloaded updated 4 Apr 2002, http://worldconnect.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/igm.cgi?op=GET&db=bferris&id=I268
  8. [S1490] Genealogics Website, online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Joan Grey: http://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00127874&tree=LEO
  9. [S1490] Genealogics Website, online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Henry de Grey: http://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00127841&tree=LEO

Anne le Despenser1,2,3

F, #5800
FatherSir Hugh le Despenser 1st Lord Despenser1,2,3 b. c 1223, d. 5 Aug 1265
MotherAline Basset of Wycombe, Buckinghamshire4,3 b. c 1246, d. b 11 Apr 1281
ReferenceEDV21
Last Edited25 Dec 2013
     Anne le Despenser married Sir William de Ferrers Baron Ferrers of Groby, co Leicester, son of William de Ferrers 5th Earl of Derby, 1st Earl of Westmoreland and Margaret de Quincy; his 1st wife.2,5,3
     EDV-21 GKJ-20.

; van de Pas cites: The Complete Peerage, 1936 , Doubleday, H.A. & Lord Howard de Walden, Reference: V 340.3 Anne le Despenser was also known as Anne le Despencer.5

; of Ryhall-Rutland.6

Family

Sir William de Ferrers Baron Ferrers of Groby, co Leicester b. c 1240, d. 24 Jan 1288/89
Children

Citations

  1. [S757] Compiled by Carl Boyer 3rd, Medieval English Ancestors of Certain Americans: Many of the English Ancestral Lines Prior to 1300 of those Colonial Americans with known Royal Ancestry but Fully Developed in all Possible Lines (PO Box 220333, Santa Clarita, CA 91322-0333: Carl Boyer 3rd, 2001), pp. 67-68, le DESPENSER 3:i. Hereinafter cited as Boyer [2001] Med English Ancestors.
  2. [S1429] Unknown compiler, Notable British Families 1600s-1900s from Burke's Peerage., CD-ROM (n.p.: Broderbund Software Company, 1999), Notable British Families, Burke's "Dormant, Abeyant, Forfeited, and Extinct Peerages" (Gen. Pub. Co., Baltimore, 1985 reprint of 1883 edition), Ferrers - Barons Ferrers of Groby, co. Leicester, p. 198. Hereinafter cited as Notable British Families CD # 367.
  3. [S1490] Genealogics Website (oiginated by Leo van de Pas, continued by Ian Fettes), online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Anne le Despenser: http://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00177540&tree=LEO. Hereinafter cited as Genealogics Website.
  4. [S1490] Genealogics Website, online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Aliva Bassett: http://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00177427&tree=LEO
  5. [S1713] David Utz, "Utz email #1 29 May 2005 "Aline de Gai's descents to Anne Arundell"," e-mail message from e-mail address (unknown address) to e-mail address, 29 May 2005. Hereinafter cited as "Utz email #1 29 May 2005."
  6. [S677] Jr. Christos Christou, GEDCOM file imported on 12 Feb 1999. Supplied by Christos Christou, Jr. - e-mail address (n.p.: Christos Christou, Jr.
    303 Nicholson Road
    Baltimore, MD 21221-6609
    Email: e-mail address, 1999).
  7. [S1490] Genealogics Website, online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Anne Ferrers: http://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00127833&tree=LEO

Richard de Rockley

M, #5801, b. circa 1260
ReferenceEDV20 GKJ21
Last Edited31 Jan 2003
     Richard de Rockley married Isabella de Clare, daughter of William de Clare.1 Richard de Rockley was born circa 1260.
     EDV-20 GKJ-21.

; History of Rutland Baron Grey p 162f.1

Family

Isabella de Clare b. c 1260
Child

Citations

  1. [S677] Jr. Christos Christou, GEDCOM file imported on 12 Feb 1999. Supplied by Christos Christou, Jr. - e-mail address (n.p.: Christos Christou, Jr.
    303 Nicholson Road
    Baltimore, MD 21221-6609
    Email: e-mail address, 1999).
  2. [S1396] Burke's Peerage & Gentry Web Site, online http://www.burkes-peerage.net/sites/peerageandgentry/sitepages/home.asp, Grey, Baron Family Page. Hereinafter cited as Burke's Peerage & Gentry Web Site.

Edmund le Boteler Earl1

M, #5802, b. circa 1285, d. 13 September 1321
FatherTheobald IV le Boteler1 b. c 1242, d. 26 Sep 1285
MotherJoan Fitz John1 b. c 1245, d. c 26 May 1303
ReferenceEDV20
Last Edited16 Aug 2019
     Edmund le Boteler Earl was born circa 1285 at Carrickfergus Castle, Carrickfergus, co. Antrim, Ireland. He married Joan Fitz Thomas, daughter of John fitz Thomas fitz Gerald 1st Earl of Kildare and Blanche de la Roche, in 1302.2
Edmund le Boteler Earl died on 13 September 1321 at London, City of London, Greater London, England.3
     EDV-20 GKJ-21. He was Justiciar and Governor of Ireland.4

; The account in CP concerning Edmund le Botiller, or Butler of Thurles, Governor and Justiciar of Ireland (d. 13 Sept 1321) states the following concerning his marital affairs:

' He m., 1302, Joan, da. of John (Fitz Thomas Fitz Gerald),
1st Earl of Kildare [I.], by Blanche, da. of John Roche, of
Fermoy. He d. ....... ' [1]

There is no reference to any other marriage on the part of Edmund. Rosie Bevan has kindly shared the following fines which on first glance appeared to me to indicate a 2nd wife Joan for Edmund, but which on further analysis does not support this assumption.

However, these fines do indicate that Edmund le Botiller had a son John Butler, or le Botiller, who was married to Joan, evidently a daughter of Nicholas de Sutton and his wife Joan.

"54 York. Quindene of St John Baptist, 8 Edw III 1334. Octave of Martinmas, 8 Edw. III, 1334.
Nicholas de Sutton and Joan his wife, quer., Robert de Kelkefield and Richard de Beauvayr, def., of 6 messuages, 101 acres of land, and 15s. 8d. rent in Estryngton, Nuland, Laxton, Kilpyn, Skelton, Houeden and Balkholm: To hold to Nicholas and Joan and the heirs male of their bodies; remainder to John son of Edmund le Botiller and Joan his wife and the heirs of their bodies; remainder to the right heirs of Nicholas."

"13. York. Quindene of Hilary, 10 Edw III, 1336. Quindene of Easter, 10 Edw. III, 1336.
Nicholas Sutton, quer., Thomas de Brayton, John de Askham and David de Walloure, def., of lands etc in Campsale, Sutton and Askern. Nicholas de Sutton, quer., Thomas de Brayton, John de
Askham, and David de Walloure, def., of 15 messuages, 7 tofts, 11 bovates of land, 6 acres of meadow, 3 acres of turbary and 53s. rent in Campsale, Sutton, and Askern: to hold to Nicholas and the heirs male of his body; remainder to John de Brayton and Elizabeth his wife and the heirs of their bodies; remainder to John le Botiller and Joan his wife and the heirs of their bodies; remainder to the right heirs of Nicholas."

"22 York, Month of Michaelmas, 2 Edw III, 1328 William de Sutton, parson of the chapel of Sutton-in-Holdernesse, quer., Nicholas de Sutton and Beatrice his wife, def., of 3 tofts, 2 bovates of land, and 10 acres of meadow, in Sutton-in-Holdernesse: To hold to William for life, of Nicholas and Beatrice and the heirs of Nicholas, paying yearly one rose at the Nativity of St John the Baptist for all service to them, and doing all services due to the chief lords; reversion to Nicholas and Beatrice and the heirs of Nicholas."

The reference to lands in Campsall, co. Yorks. does appear to suggest some relationship to the Newmarch (de Novo mercato) family of Yorkshire. Another reference noted by Rosie:

" DL 25/2145 : full details
Sibyl late the wife of Simon de Askerne to Joan late the wife of Sir Adam de Newmarch (novo mercato) and Henry de Lascy, Earl of Lincoln: Quitclaim of her right in a messuage in Campsall of which she impleaded the said Dame Joan before the Justices of York: (Yorks, W.
1294 "

This provides evidence either of (1) a wife of Sir Adam de Newmarch subsequent to his known wife Elizabeth (or Isabel) de Mowbray, or (2) that Sir Adam had a son Adam, not previously identified, who was succeeded by Sir Adam's son (younger son?) Roger de Newmarch of Bentley and Campsall.

Should anyone have further information or documentation bearing on the above, that would be most interesting, and appreciated.

Cheers, John

NOTES
[1] CP II:450, sub Butler.2

; Weis AR: Justiciar and Governor of Ireland, Castle and Manors of Karryk
Macgriffyn and Roscnea, Lord of Arklow.5,4

Family

Joan Fitz Thomas b. c 1285
Child

Citations

  1. [S2212] Emmett L. Butler, "Butler email 6 Jan 2008: "Botelers of Ireland: the First Generations, Part II"," e-mail message from e-mail address (unknown address) to e-mail address, 6 Jan 2008. Hereinafter cited as "Butler email 6 Jan 2008."
  2. [S1849] John P. Ravilious, "Ravilious email 12 Dec 2004 "Query: John Butler (le Botiller) and Campsall, co. Yorks."," e-mail message from e-mail address (unknown address) to e-mail address, 12 Dec 2004. Hereinafter cited as "Ravilious email 12 Dec 2004."
  3. [S632] Frederick Lewis Weis, Ancestral Roots of Certain American Colonists Who Came to America before 1700: The Lineage of Alfred the Great, Charlemagne, Malcolm of Scotland, Robert the Strong, and Some of Their Descendants, 7th edition (n.p.: Genealogical Publishing Co., Inc.
    Baltimore, 1992, unknown publish date), line 178A-8, p. 154. Hereinafter cited as Weis AR-7.
  4. [S632] Frederick Lewis Weis, Weis AR-7, line 73-31, p. 74.
  5. [S677] Jr. Christos Christou, GEDCOM file imported on 12 Feb 1999. Supplied by Christos Christou, Jr. - e-mail address (n.p.: Christos Christou, Jr.
    303 Nicholson Road
    Baltimore, MD 21221-6609
    Email: e-mail address, 1999).
  6. [S1490] Genealogics Website (oiginated by Leo van de Pas, continued by Ian Fettes), online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, James Butler: http://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00126341&tree=LEO. Hereinafter cited as Genealogics Website.
  7. [S2261] Douglas Richardson, Plantagenet Ancestry: A Study in Colonial and Medieval Families, 1st edition (n.p.: Genealogical Publishing Company, Inc., 2004), Butler 9: pp. 176-177. Hereinafter cited as Richardson PA.

Joan Fitz Thomas1

F, #5803, b. circa 1285
FatherJohn fitz Thomas fitz Gerald 1st Earl of Kildare2,3,4,1 b. c 1260, d. 12 Sep 1316
MotherBlanche de la Roche d. a Feb 1329
ReferenceEDV20
Last Edited15 Aug 2019
     Joan Fitz Thomas was born circa 1285. She married Edmund le Boteler Earl, son of Theobald IV le Boteler and Joan Fitz John, in 1302.3
     EDV-20 GKJ-21.

Family

Edmund le Boteler Earl b. c 1285, d. 13 Sep 1321
Child

Citations

  1. [S2261] Douglas Richardson, Plantagenet Ancestry: A Study in Colonial and Medieval Families, 1st edition (n.p.: Genealogical Publishing Company, Inc., 2004), Butler 9: pp. 176-177. Hereinafter cited as Richardson PA.
  2. [S1396] Burke's Peerage & Gentry Web Site, online http://www.burkes-peerage.net/sites/peerageandgentry/sitepages/home.asp, Leinster Family Page. Hereinafter cited as Burke's Peerage & Gentry Web Site.
  3. [S1849] John P. Ravilious, "Ravilious email 12 Dec 2004 "Query: John Butler (le Botiller) and Campsall, co. Yorks."," e-mail message from e-mail address (unknown address) to e-mail address, 12 Dec 2004. Hereinafter cited as "Ravilious email 12 Dec 2004."
  4. [S1490] Genealogics Website (oiginated by Leo van de Pas, continued by Ian Fettes), online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, John FitzThomas FitzGerald: http://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00117204&tree=LEO. Hereinafter cited as Genealogics Website.
  5. [S677] Jr. Christos Christou, GEDCOM file imported on 12 Feb 1999. Supplied by Christos Christou, Jr. - e-mail address (n.p.: Christos Christou, Jr.
    303 Nicholson Road
    Baltimore, MD 21221-6609
    Email: e-mail address, 1999).

John fitz Thomas fitz Gerald 1st Earl of Kildare1,2

M, #5804, b. circa 1260, d. 12 September 1316
FatherThomas Fitz Maurice Fitz Gerald of Banada3 d. 1271
MotherRohesia de St. Michael of Rheban, Athy and Woodstock
ReferenceEDV21
Last Edited15 Aug 2019
     John fitz Thomas fitz Gerald 1st Earl of Kildare was buried at Church of The Friars Minor, Kildare, Ireland.4

He was born circa 1260 at Castle of Athy, near Athy, co. Kildare, Ireland.5,2 He married Blanche de la Roche, daughter of John de la Roche Lord Fermoy, of Fermoy, co. Cork, Ireland, in 1302.6,5,2
John fitz Thomas fitz Gerald 1st Earl of Kildare died on 12 September 1316 at Laraghbryan, near Maynooth, co. Kildare, Ireland.4,5,2
     ; JOHN FitzTHOMAS FitzGERALD, 1st Earl of Kildare (I), so cr 14 May 1316; a legend is told of him similar to that about the ancestor of the FitzGERALD Bts of Valencia (qv), viz., that when he was a baby in the Castle of Woodstock, nr Athy, Co Kildare, a fire broke out, he was overlooked in the panic and rescued by a monkey, who climbed a tower holding him in its arms; subsequently the FitzGERALDs adopted a monkey as crest and occasionally the additional motto Non immemor beneficii ('Not forgetful of a helping hand'); m Blanche de la Roche (living 1327), and d 12 Sept 1316.5 EDV-21 GKJ-22.

; van de Pas cites: The Complete Peerage, 1936 , Doubleday, H.A. & Lord Howard de Walden, Reference: VII 218.2

; per van de Pas: "Sometime between 1260 and 1270 there was a disastrous fire at the castle of Woodstock, near Athy in County Kildare, Ireland. It happened so quickly that there was no time to organise a sensible evacuation of the building. In their panic, people ran in all directions to find a way out. They viewed the conflagration from safety, and when it had died down, they took stock. To their horror, they realised that in the confusion they had left behind the infant heir of the family, little John FitzThomas FitzGerald. The servants rushed back to the house, and found his room in ruins; there was no sign of him. Then someone heard a strange sound from the roof of one of the towers. Looking up, they saw a monkey, normally kept chained up as a bizarre pet, carefully holding the baby in its arms. It had taken him out of his swaddling clothes, licked and cleaned him, and wrapped him up carefully.

The baby grew up to become the 1st Earl of Kildare, and to found the illustrious family of the Kildare Geraldines. In recognition of the extraordinary debt which the family and all its decendants owe to that monkey, the Earl fashioned his family crest with two monkeys as supporters, and a third posing triumphant at the top."2 He was 5th Baron of Offaly.4

; Weis AR: of Kildare.7,6 He was 1st Earl of Kildare on 14 May 1316.4,5

Family

Blanche de la Roche d. a Feb 1329
Children

Citations

  1. [S757] Compiled by Carl Boyer 3rd, Medieval English Ancestors of Certain Americans: Many of the English Ancestral Lines Prior to 1300 of those Colonial Americans with known Royal Ancestry but Fully Developed in all Possible Lines (PO Box 220333, Santa Clarita, CA 91322-0333: Carl Boyer 3rd, 2001), p. 91, Fitz GERALD 7:i. Hereinafter cited as Boyer [2001] Med English Ancestors.
  2. [S1490] Genealogics Website (oiginated by Leo van de Pas, continued by Ian Fettes), online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, John FitzThomas FitzGerald: http://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00117204&tree=LEO. Hereinafter cited as Genealogics Website.
  3. [S1490] Genealogics Website, online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Thomas FitzGerald, of Banada: http://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00117202&tree=LEO
  4. [S632] Frederick Lewis Weis, Ancestral Roots of Certain American Colonists Who Came to America before 1700: The Lineage of Alfred the Great, Charlemagne, Malcolm of Scotland, Robert the Strong, and Some of Their Descendants, 7th edition (n.p.: Genealogical Publishing Co., Inc.
    Baltimore, 1992, unknown publish date), line 178A-7, p. 154. Hereinafter cited as Weis AR-7.
  5. [S1396] Burke's Peerage & Gentry Web Site, online http://www.burkes-peerage.net/sites/peerageandgentry/sitepages/home.asp, Leinster Family Page. Hereinafter cited as Burke's Peerage & Gentry Web Site.
  6. [S632] Frederick Lewis Weis, Weis AR-7, line 73-31, p. 74.
  7. [S677] Jr. Christos Christou, GEDCOM file imported on 12 Feb 1999. Supplied by Christos Christou, Jr. - e-mail address (n.p.: Christos Christou, Jr.
    303 Nicholson Road
    Baltimore, MD 21221-6609
    Email: e-mail address, 1999).
  8. [S1849] John P. Ravilious, "Ravilious email 12 Dec 2004 "Query: John Butler (le Botiller) and Campsall, co. Yorks."," e-mail message from e-mail address (unknown address) to e-mail address, 12 Dec 2004. Hereinafter cited as "Ravilious email 12 Dec 2004."
  9. [S2261] Douglas Richardson, Plantagenet Ancestry: A Study in Colonial and Medieval Families, 1st edition (n.p.: Genealogical Publishing Company, Inc., 2004), Butler 9: pp. 176-177. Hereinafter cited as Richardson PA.

Theobald IV le Boteler1

M, #5805, b. circa 1242, d. 26 September 1285
FatherTheobald III le Boteler1 d. 1248
MotherMargery de Burgh1 d. a 1 Mar 1252
ReferenceEDV21
Last Edited14 Feb 2019
     Theobald IV le Boteler was born circa 1242.2 He married Joan Fitz John, daughter of Sir John Fitz Geoffrey and Isabel (Isabella) le Bigod, circa 1268.3,2,1
Theobald IV le Boteler died on 26 September 1285 at Castle of Arklow, Wiklow, Ireland.3,2
     ; Weis AR.4 EDV-21 GKJ-22. Theobald IV le Boteler was also known as Theobald Butler.2 Theobald IV le Boteler was also known as Theobald le Botiller.2

Family

Joan Fitz John b. c 1245, d. c 26 May 1303
Children

Citations

  1. [S2212] Emmett L. Butler, "Butler email 6 Jan 2008: "Botelers of Ireland: the First Generations, Part II"," e-mail message from e-mail address (unknown address) to e-mail address, 6 Jan 2008. Hereinafter cited as "Butler email 6 Jan 2008."
  2. [S1396] Burke's Peerage & Gentry Web Site, online http://www.burkes-peerage.net/sites/peerageandgentry/sitepages/home.asp, Dynboyne Family Page. Hereinafter cited as Burke's Peerage & Gentry Web Site.
  3. [S757] Compiled by Carl Boyer 3rd, Medieval English Ancestors of Certain Americans: Many of the English Ancestral Lines Prior to 1300 of those Colonial Americans with known Royal Ancestry but Fully Developed in all Possible Lines (PO Box 220333, Santa Clarita, CA 91322-0333: Carl Boyer 3rd, 2001), p. 88, Fitz GEOFFREY 3:vi. Hereinafter cited as Boyer [2001] Med English Ancestors.
  4. [S677] Jr. Christos Christou, GEDCOM file imported on 12 Feb 1999. Supplied by Christos Christou, Jr. - e-mail address (n.p.: Christos Christou, Jr.
    303 Nicholson Road
    Baltimore, MD 21221-6609
    Email: e-mail address, 1999).

Humphrey VII de Bohun Lord Bohun, 3rd Earl of Hereford, Earl of Essex1,2,3

M, #5806, b. circa 1249, d. 31 December 1298
FatherSir Humphrey VI de Bohun Lord Bohun, châtelain de Winchester2,3 d. 27 Oct 1265
MotherEleanor de Braiose of Huntington, Brecon, Wales2,3 b. c 1225, d. 1275
ReferenceEDV20
Last Edited7 Oct 2020
     Humphrey VII de Bohun Lord Bohun, 3rd Earl of Hereford, Earl of Essex was born circa 1249.4,1,3 He married Mathilde (Mahaut, Maud) de Fiennes, daughter of Sir Enguerrand/Ingelram II de Fiennes seigneur de Fiennes, baron de Tingry et Ruminghen, Lord of Wendover, of Buckinghamshire and Agnès/Isabel/Isabeau/Mahaut/Isabelle de Condé, on 20 July 1275; her 1st husband.4,1,2,3
Humphrey VII de Bohun Lord Bohun, 3rd Earl of Hereford, Earl of Essex died on 31 December 1298 at Pleshey Castle, co. Essex, England; Burke's Extinct Peerages says "dying in 1297."4,1,2,3
Humphrey VII de Bohun Lord Bohun, 3rd Earl of Hereford, Earl of Essex was buried circa 1299 at Walden Abbey, co. Essex, England.1


     He was 3rd Earl of Hereford of the 1199 cr.4,2,3 He was Sheriff of Kent.5

; "Humphrey de Bohun, [succeeded his grandfather] as Earl of Hereford, Earl of Essex, and Lord High Constable. This nobleman inheriting the high and daring spirit of his predecessors, often strenuously opposed the measures of the court, and was often therefore in disgrace, but he appears at the close of his career to have regained royal favour, for we find him attending the king into Scotland when that monarch (Edward I.) obtained a great victory near Roxburgh. His lordship m. Maud, dau. of Sir Ingelram de Fiennes, and dying in 1297, was s. by his son, Humphrey de Bohun as Earl of Hereford, Earl of Essex, and Lord High Constable."2 He was Earl of Essex.2 He was Lord High Constable of England (hereditary.)5,2,3

; Weis AR: Earl of Hereford and Essex, Constable of England.6,5 EDV-20 GKJ-21.

Family

Mathilde (Mahaut, Maud) de Fiennes b. c 1254, d. 6 Dec 1298
Child

Citations

  1. [S757] Compiled by Carl Boyer 3rd, Medieval English Ancestors of Certain Americans: Many of the English Ancestral Lines Prior to 1300 of those Colonial Americans with known Royal Ancestry but Fully Developed in all Possible Lines (PO Box 220333, Santa Clarita, CA 91322-0333: Carl Boyer 3rd, 2001), pp. 35-36, de BOHUN 6. Hereinafter cited as Boyer [2001] Med English Ancestors.
  2. [S1429] Unknown compiler, Notable British Families 1600s-1900s from Burke's Peerage., CD-ROM (n.p.: Broderbund Software Company, 1999), Notable British Families, Burke's Dromant, Abeyant, Forgeited, and Extinct Peerages, p. 57. Hereinafter cited as Notable British Families CD # 367.
  3. [S2280] Racines et Histoire, online http://racineshistoire.free.fr/LGN/LGN-frameset.html, http://racineshistoire.free.fr/LGN/PDF/Bohun.pdf, p. 3. Hereinafter cited as Racines et Histoire.
  4. [S633] With additions and corrections by Walter Lee Sheppard Jr. and William R. Beall Frederick Lewis Weis, The Magna Charta Sureties, 1215 : The Barons Named in the Magna
    Charta, 1215 and Some of Their Descendants Who Settled in America
    During the Early Colonial Years, 5th Edition
    (Baltimore, MD, USA: Genealogical Publishine Co., Inc., unknown publish date), line 18-3, p. 25. Hereinafter cited as Weis MCS-5.
  5. [S632] Frederick Lewis Weis, Ancestral Roots of Certain American Colonists Who Came to America before 1700: The Lineage of Alfred the Great, Charlemagne, Malcolm of Scotland, Robert the Strong, and Some of Their Descendants, 7th edition (n.p.: Genealogical Publishing Co., Inc.
    Baltimore, 1992, unknown publish date), line 97-30, p. 93. Hereinafter cited as Weis AR-7.
  6. [S677] Jr. Christos Christou, GEDCOM file imported on 12 Feb 1999. Supplied by Christos Christou, Jr. - e-mail address (n.p.: Christos Christou, Jr.
    303 Nicholson Road
    Baltimore, MD 21221-6609
    Email: e-mail address, 1999).
  7. [S2261] Douglas Richardson, Plantagenet Ancestry: A Study in Colonial and Medieval Families, 1st edition (n.p.: Genealogical Publishing Company, Inc., 2004), Butler: p. 176. Hereinafter cited as Richardson PA.
  8. [S1490] Genealogics Website (oiginated by Leo van de Pas, continued by Ian Fettes), online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Humphrey de Bohun: https://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00007055&tree=LEO. Hereinafter cited as Genealogics Website.
  9. [S2280] Racines et Histoire, online http://racineshistoire.free.fr/LGN/LGN-frameset.html, Famille de Bohun , p. 4: http://racineshistoire.free.fr/LGN/PDF/Bohun.pdf
  10. [S2203] Foundation for Medieval Genealogy (FMG): MEDIEVAL LANDS - A prosopography of medieval European noble and royal families, online http://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/index.htm, https://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/ENGLISH%20NOBILITY%20MEDIEVAL.htm#HumphreyBohunHereforddied1322. Hereinafter cited as FMG Medieval Lands Website.

Mathilde (Mahaut, Maud) de Fiennes1,2

F, #5807, b. circa 1254, d. 6 December 1298
FatherSir Enguerrand/Ingelram II de Fiennes seigneur de Fiennes, baron de Tingry et Ruminghen, Lord of Wendover, of Buckinghamshire1,3,2 b. bt 1200 - 1210, d. bt 1265 - 1270
MotherAgnès/Isabel/Isabeau/Mahaut/Isabelle de Condé4,2 b. 1224
ReferenceEDV20
Last Edited7 Oct 2020
     Mathilde (Mahaut, Maud) de Fiennes was buried at Walden Abbey, co. Essex, England.5

She was born circa 1254 at Wendover, Buckinghamshire, England; per Racines et Histoire b ca 1258.2 She married Humphrey VII de Bohun Lord Bohun, 3rd Earl of Hereford, Earl of Essex, son of Sir Humphrey VI de Bohun Lord Bohun, châtelain de Winchester and Eleanor de Braiose of Huntington, Brecon, Wales, on 20 July 1275; her 1st husband.6,5,1,2 Mathilde (Mahaut, Maud) de Fiennes married Jean de Landas seigneur de Sainghin-en-Mélantois after 1298; her 2nd husband; date of death of her 1st husband.7
Mathilde (Mahaut, Maud) de Fiennes died on 6 December 1298 at co. Essex, England.5,2
     EDV-20 GKJ-21.

; Weis AR.8

Citations

  1. [S1429] Unknown compiler, Notable British Families 1600s-1900s from Burke's Peerage., CD-ROM (n.p.: Broderbund Software Company, 1999), Notable British Families, Burke's Dromant, Abeyant, Forgeited, and Extinct Peerages, p. 57. Hereinafter cited as Notable British Families CD # 367.
  2. [S2280] Racines et Histoire, online http://racineshistoire.free.fr/LGN/LGN-frameset.html, http://racineshistoire.free.fr/LGN/PDF/Bohun.pdf, p. 3. Hereinafter cited as Racines et Histoire.
  3. [S1490] Genealogics Website (oiginated by Leo van de Pas, continued by Ian Fettes), online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Enguerrand de Fiennes: http://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00038520&tree=LEO. Hereinafter cited as Genealogics Website.
  4. [S1490] Genealogics Website, online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, (Isabeau) de Condé: http://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00038521&tree=LEO
  5. [S757] Compiled by Carl Boyer 3rd, Medieval English Ancestors of Certain Americans: Many of the English Ancestral Lines Prior to 1300 of those Colonial Americans with known Royal Ancestry but Fully Developed in all Possible Lines (PO Box 220333, Santa Clarita, CA 91322-0333: Carl Boyer 3rd, 2001), pp. 35-36, de BOHUN 6. Hereinafter cited as Boyer [2001] Med English Ancestors.
  6. [S633] With additions and corrections by Walter Lee Sheppard Jr. and William R. Beall Frederick Lewis Weis, The Magna Charta Sureties, 1215 : The Barons Named in the Magna
    Charta, 1215 and Some of Their Descendants Who Settled in America
    During the Early Colonial Years, 5th Edition
    (Baltimore, MD, USA: Genealogical Publishine Co., Inc., unknown publish date), line 18-3, p. 25. Hereinafter cited as Weis MCS-5.
  7. [S2280] Racines et Histoire, online http://racineshistoire.free.fr/LGN/LGN-frameset.html, http://racineshistoire.free.fr/LGN/PDF/Fiennes.pdf: p. 3.
  8. [S677] Jr. Christos Christou, GEDCOM file imported on 12 Feb 1999. Supplied by Christos Christou, Jr. - e-mail address (n.p.: Christos Christou, Jr.
    303 Nicholson Road
    Baltimore, MD 21221-6609
    Email: e-mail address, 1999).
  9. [S2261] Douglas Richardson, Plantagenet Ancestry: A Study in Colonial and Medieval Families, 1st edition (n.p.: Genealogical Publishing Company, Inc., 2004), Butler: p. 176. Hereinafter cited as Richardson PA.
  10. [S1490] Genealogics Website, online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Humphrey de Bohun: https://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00007055&tree=LEO
  11. [S2280] Racines et Histoire, online http://racineshistoire.free.fr/LGN/LGN-frameset.html, Famille de Bohun , p. 4: http://racineshistoire.free.fr/LGN/PDF/Bohun.pdf
  12. [S2203] Foundation for Medieval Genealogy (FMG): MEDIEVAL LANDS - A prosopography of medieval European noble and royal families, online http://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/index.htm, https://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/ENGLISH%20NOBILITY%20MEDIEVAL.htm#HumphreyBohunHereforddied1322. Hereinafter cited as FMG Medieval Lands Website.

Sir Richard Talbot KB, 2nd Lord Talbot1,2

M, #5808, b. circa 1305, d. 23 October 1356
FatherSir Gilbert Talbot KB, 1st Lord Talbot1,3 b. 18 Oct 1276, d. 24 Feb 1345/46
MotherAnne le Botiler1,3 b. c 1276
ReferenceEDV19 GKJ20
Last Edited12 Apr 2009
     Sir Richard Talbot KB, 2nd Lord Talbot was born circa 1305 at Eccleswall, Herefordshire, England.4,1,3 He married Elizabeth Comyn, daughter of John "Red Comyn" 2 Comyn Lord of Badenoch and Joan de Valence, between 24 July 1326 and 23 March 1327.4,1,5,6,3,7
Sir Richard Talbot KB, 2nd Lord Talbot died on 23 October 1356.4,1
Sir Richard Talbot KB, 2nd Lord Talbot was buried after 23 October 1356 at Flanesford Priory.3


     EDV-19 GKJ-20. He was 2nd Lord Talbot.8,1

; Sir RICHARD TALBOT, 2nd LORD (Baron) TALBOT, KB by 1338; b c 1305; asserted his right to estates in Scotland through his w and participated in Edward Balliol's descent on Scotland 1332, helping defeat the Scots at Battle of Dupplin Moor 12 Aug 1332; captured by the Scots 1334 but ransomed 1335; Keeper Berwick-upon-Tweed 1337-55, Ch Keeper Southampton Feb 1339/40, Ch Justice Glos and Worcs 1341, a Capt in the English army that defeated the French Battle of Morlaix 30 Sept 1342 during opening phase of Hundred Years War, Steward King's Household 1345, present Battle of Crécy and Siege Calais 1346-47, Keeper Pembroke and Tenby Castles and Pembs Jan 1349/9-51; m between 24 July 1326 and 23 March 1326/7 Elizabeth, dau and coheir of John Comyn, Lord of Badenoch, by Joan, sis of Aymer de Valence, Earl of Pembroke (see PEMBROKE and MONTGOMERY, E, preliminary remarks), and d 23 Oct 1356.1

; Weis AR
Ancestor of the Earls of Shrewsbury per EP (Valence.)9

Family

Elizabeth Comyn b. 1 Nov 1299, d. 20 Nov 1372
Child

Citations

  1. [S1396] Burke's Peerage & Gentry Web Site, online http://www.burkes-peerage.net/sites/peerageandgentry/sitepages/home.asp, Shrewsbury and Waterford Family Page. Hereinafter cited as Burke's Peerage & Gentry Web Site.
  2. [S1720] David Utz, "Utz email #2 29 May 2005 "Aline de Gai's descents to Robert Abell"," e-mail message from e-mail address (unknown address) to e-mail address, 29 May 2005, 6 Richard Talbot b: Abt. 1305 in of Eccleswall, HEF, ENG d: 23 October 1356 Burial: Flanesford Priory
    .... +Elizabeth Comyn b: 01 November 1299 m: Bet. 24 July 1326 - 23 March
    1326/27 d: 20 November 1372. Hereinafter cited as "Utz email #2 29 May 2005."
  3. [S1720] David Utz, "Utz email #2 29 May 2005," e-mail to e-mail address, 29 May 2005.
  4. [S632] Frederick Lewis Weis, Ancestral Roots of Certain American Colonists Who Came to America before 1700: The Lineage of Alfred the Great, Charlemagne, Malcolm of Scotland, Robert the Strong, and Some of Their Descendants, 7th edition (n.p.: Genealogical Publishing Co., Inc.
    Baltimore, 1992, unknown publish date), line 95-31, p. 92. Hereinafter cited as Weis AR-7.
  5. [S1429] Unknown compiler, Notable British Families 1600s-1900s from Burke's Peerage., CD-ROM (n.p.: Broderbund Software Company, 1999), Notable British Families, Burke's Extinct Peerages, p. 22. Hereinafter cited as Notable British Families CD # 367.
  6. [S1438] Miroslav Marek, online http://genealogy.euweb.cz/index.html, unknown author (e-mail address), downloaded updated 15 May 2003, Lusignan 2 page (de Lusignan Family): http://genealogy.euweb.cz/crus/lusignan2.html
  7. [S2280] Racines et Histoire, online http://racineshistoire.free.fr/LGN/LGN-frameset.html, http://racineshistoire.free.fr/LGN/PDF/Angouleme.pdf, p.9. Hereinafter cited as Racines et Histoire.
  8. [S632] Frederick Lewis Weis, Weis AR-7, line 84A-31, p. 84.
  9. [S677] Jr. Christos Christou, GEDCOM file imported on 12 Feb 1999. Supplied by Christos Christou, Jr. - e-mail address (n.p.: Christos Christou, Jr.
    303 Nicholson Road
    Baltimore, MD 21221-6609
    Email: e-mail address, 1999).
  10. [S1490] Genealogics Website (oiginated by Leo van de Pas, continued by Ian Fettes), online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Gilbert Talbot: http://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00028780&tree=LEO. Hereinafter cited as Genealogics Website.

Elizabeth Comyn1,2,3

F, #5809, b. 1 November 1299, d. 20 November 1372
FatherJohn "Red Comyn" 2 Comyn Lord of Badenoch4,5,1,3,6 b. c 1279, d. 10 Feb 1306
MotherJoan de Valence4,1,3 b. c 1265
ReferenceEDV19 GKJ20
Last Edited2 Oct 2019
     Elizabeth Comyn was born on 1 November 1299.7,1,8,3 She married Sir Richard Talbot KB, 2nd Lord Talbot, son of Sir Gilbert Talbot KB, 1st Lord Talbot and Anne le Botiler, between 24 July 1326 and 23 March 1327.7,4,5,1,8,3
Elizabeth Comyn died on 20 November 1372 at age 73.7,1,8,3
     EDV-19 GKJ-20.

; Weis AR.9

Family

Sir Richard Talbot KB, 2nd Lord Talbot b. c 1305, d. 23 Oct 1356
Child

Citations

  1. [S1438] Miroslav Marek, online http://genealogy.euweb.cz/index.html, unknown author (e-mail address), downloaded updated 15 May 2003, Lusignan 2 page (de Lusignan Family): http://genealogy.euweb.cz/crus/lusignan2.html
  2. [S1720] David Utz, "Utz email #2 29 May 2005 "Aline de Gai's descents to Robert Abell"," e-mail message from e-mail address (unknown address) to e-mail address, 29 May 2005, 6 Richard Talbot b: Abt. 1305 in of Eccleswall, HEF, ENG d: 23 October 1356 Burial: Flanesford Priory
    .... +Elizabeth Comyn b: 01 November 1299 m: Bet. 24 July 1326 - 23 March
    1326/27 d: 20 November 1372. Hereinafter cited as "Utz email #2 29 May 2005."
  3. [S2280] Racines et Histoire, online http://racineshistoire.free.fr/LGN/LGN-frameset.html, http://racineshistoire.free.fr/LGN/PDF/Angouleme.pdf, p.9. Hereinafter cited as Racines et Histoire.
  4. [S1396] Burke's Peerage & Gentry Web Site, online http://www.burkes-peerage.net/sites/peerageandgentry/sitepages/home.asp, Shrewsbury and Waterford Family Page. Hereinafter cited as Burke's Peerage & Gentry Web Site.
  5. [S1429] Unknown compiler, Notable British Families 1600s-1900s from Burke's Peerage., CD-ROM (n.p.: Broderbund Software Company, 1999), Notable British Families, Burke's Extinct Peerages, p. 22. Hereinafter cited as Notable British Families CD # 367.
  6. [S1490] Genealogics Website (oiginated by Leo van de Pas, continued by Ian Fettes), online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, John Comyn 'the Red', Lord of Badenoch: https://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00198358&tree=LEO. Hereinafter cited as Genealogics Website.
  7. [S632] Frederick Lewis Weis, Ancestral Roots of Certain American Colonists Who Came to America before 1700: The Lineage of Alfred the Great, Charlemagne, Malcolm of Scotland, Robert the Strong, and Some of Their Descendants, 7th edition (n.p.: Genealogical Publishing Co., Inc.
    Baltimore, 1992, unknown publish date), line 95-31, p. 92. Hereinafter cited as Weis AR-7.
  8. [S1720] David Utz, "Utz email #2 29 May 2005," e-mail to e-mail address, 29 May 2005.
  9. [S677] Jr. Christos Christou, GEDCOM file imported on 12 Feb 1999. Supplied by Christos Christou, Jr. - e-mail address (n.p.: Christos Christou, Jr.
    303 Nicholson Road
    Baltimore, MD 21221-6609
    Email: e-mail address, 1999).
  10. [S1490] Genealogics Website, online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Gilbert Talbot: http://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00028780&tree=LEO

John "Red Comyn" 2 Comyn Lord of Badenoch1,2

M, #5810, b. circa 1279, d. 10 February 1306
FatherSir John "Black Comyn" Comyn Lord of Badenoch3,1,2,4 b. c 1245, d. c 1303
MotherAlianore/Eleanor Balliol3,5,1,2,6 b. c 1245
ReferenceGAV23 EDV20
Last Edited12 Jul 2020
     John "Red Comyn" 2 Comyn Lord of Badenoch was born circa 1279 at Badenoch, Scotland. He married Joan de Valence, daughter of Sir William de Valence Knt., Earl of Pembroke and Joan de Munchensy Lady of Swanscombe, before 1291.7,8,2,9
John "Red Comyn" 2 Comyn Lord of Badenoch died on 10 February 1306; Weis (1992) line 95-30, p. 92: "...murdered by Robert the Bruce (later Robert I of Scotland), 10 Feb. 1306, Church of the Grey Friars, Dubries."8,2,9
     He was Lord of Badenoch.7

Reference: Genealogics cites:
     1. The Complete Peerage, 1936 , Doubleday, H.A. & Lord Howard de Walden.
     2. Europäische Stammtafeln, J.A. Stargardt Verlag, Marburg, Schwennicke, Detlev (Ed.) 3:816.9

; Weis AR: Lord of Badenock, called the Red Comyn.10,11 GAV-23 EDV-20.

Family

Joan de Valence b. c 1265
Children

Citations

  1. [S1429] Unknown compiler, Notable British Families 1600s-1900s from Burke's Peerage., CD-ROM (n.p.: Broderbund Software Company, 1999), Notable British Families, Burke's Extinct Peerages, p. 22. Hereinafter cited as Notable British Families CD # 367.
  2. [S2280] Racines et Histoire, online http://racineshistoire.free.fr/LGN/LGN-frameset.html, http://racineshistoire.free.fr/LGN/PDF/Angouleme.pdf, p.9. Hereinafter cited as Racines et Histoire.
  3. [S1426] Jiri Louda (Tables) and Michael Maclagan (text), Lines of Succession: Heraldry of the Royal Families of Europe (NY: Barnes & Noble Books, 2002), Table 12: Scotland: Kings until the accession of Robert Bruce. Hereinafter cited as Louda & Maclagan [2002] Lines of Succession.
  4. [S1490] Genealogics Website (oiginated by Leo van de Pas, continued by Ian Fettes), online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, John Comyn 'the Black', Lord of Badenoch: https://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00027691&tree=LEO. Hereinafter cited as Genealogics Website.
  5. [S1429] Notable British Families, Notable British Families CD # 367, Burke's Extinct Peerages, p. 21.
  6. [S1490] Genealogics Website, online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Alianore Balliol: https://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00027687&tree=LEO
  7. [S632] Frederick Lewis Weis, Ancestral Roots of Certain American Colonists Who Came to America before 1700: The Lineage of Alfred the Great, Charlemagne, Malcolm of Scotland, Robert the Strong, and Some of Their Descendants, 7th edition (n.p.: Genealogical Publishing Co., Inc.
    Baltimore, 1992, unknown publish date), line 84A-31, p. 84. Hereinafter cited as Weis AR-7.
  8. [S1438] Miroslav Marek, online http://genealogy.euweb.cz/index.html, unknown author (e-mail address), downloaded updated 15 May 2003, Lusignan 2 page (de Lusignan Family): http://genealogy.euweb.cz/crus/lusignan2.html
  9. [S1490] Genealogics Website, online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, John Comyn 'the Red', Lord of Badenoch: https://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00198358&tree=LEO
  10. [S677] Jr. Christos Christou, GEDCOM file imported on 12 Feb 1999. Supplied by Christos Christou, Jr. - e-mail address (n.p.: Christos Christou, Jr.
    303 Nicholson Road
    Baltimore, MD 21221-6609
    Email: e-mail address, 1999).
  11. [S632] Frederick Lewis Weis, Weis AR-7, line 95-30, p. 92.
  12. [S1396] Burke's Peerage & Gentry Web Site, online http://www.burkes-peerage.net/sites/peerageandgentry/sitepages/home.asp, Kenworthy-Barons Strabolgi Family Page. Hereinafter cited as Burke's Peerage & Gentry Web Site.
  13. [S1490] Genealogics Website, online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, John Comyn: https://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00106030&tree=LEO
  14. [S1396] Burke's Peerage & Gentry Web Site, online http://www.burkes-peerage.net/sites/peerageandgentry/sitepages/home.asp, Shrewsbury and Waterford Family Page.

Joan de Valence1,2,3

F, #5811, b. circa 1265
FatherSir William de Valence Knt., Earl of Pembroke2,3 b. c 1225, d. b 18 May 1296
MotherJoan de Munchensy Lady of Swanscombe2,3 b. c 1230, d. b 30 Sep 1307
ReferenceGAV23 EDV20
Last Edited12 Jul 2020
     Joan de Valence was born circa 1265. She married John "Red Comyn" 2 Comyn Lord of Badenoch, son of Sir John "Black Comyn" Comyn Lord of Badenoch and Alianore/Eleanor Balliol, before 1291.4,2,3,5
     GAV-23 EDV-20.

; Weis AR.6

Family

John "Red Comyn" 2 Comyn Lord of Badenoch b. c 1279, d. 10 Feb 1306
Children

Citations

  1. [S757] Compiled by Carl Boyer 3rd, Medieval English Ancestors of Certain Americans: Many of the English Ancestral Lines Prior to 1300 of those Colonial Americans with known Royal Ancestry but Fully Developed in all Possible Lines (PO Box 220333, Santa Clarita, CA 91322-0333: Carl Boyer 3rd, 2001), pp. 138-139, de LUSIGNAN 7:vii. Hereinafter cited as Boyer [2001] Med English Ancestors.
  2. [S1438] Miroslav Marek, online http://genealogy.euweb.cz/index.html, unknown author (e-mail address), downloaded updated 15 May 2003, Lusignan 2 page (de Lusignan Family): http://genealogy.euweb.cz/crus/lusignan2.html
  3. [S2280] Racines et Histoire, online http://racineshistoire.free.fr/LGN/LGN-frameset.html, http://racineshistoire.free.fr/LGN/PDF/Angouleme.pdf, p.9. Hereinafter cited as Racines et Histoire.
  4. [S632] Frederick Lewis Weis, Ancestral Roots of Certain American Colonists Who Came to America before 1700: The Lineage of Alfred the Great, Charlemagne, Malcolm of Scotland, Robert the Strong, and Some of Their Descendants, 7th edition (n.p.: Genealogical Publishing Co., Inc.
    Baltimore, 1992, unknown publish date), line 84A-31, p. 84. Hereinafter cited as Weis AR-7.
  5. [S1490] Genealogics Website (oiginated by Leo van de Pas, continued by Ian Fettes), online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, John Comyn 'the Red', Lord of Badenoch: https://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00198358&tree=LEO. Hereinafter cited as Genealogics Website.
  6. [S677] Jr. Christos Christou, GEDCOM file imported on 12 Feb 1999. Supplied by Christos Christou, Jr. - e-mail address (n.p.: Christos Christou, Jr.
    303 Nicholson Road
    Baltimore, MD 21221-6609
    Email: e-mail address, 1999).
  7. [S1396] Burke's Peerage & Gentry Web Site, online http://www.burkes-peerage.net/sites/peerageandgentry/sitepages/home.asp, Kenworthy-Barons Strabolgi Family Page. Hereinafter cited as Burke's Peerage & Gentry Web Site.
  8. [S1490] Genealogics Website, online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, John Comyn, Lord of Badenoch: https://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00106030&tree=LEO
  9. [S1490] Genealogics Website, online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, John Comyn: https://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00106030&tree=LEO
  10. [S1396] Burke's Peerage & Gentry Web Site, online http://www.burkes-peerage.net/sites/peerageandgentry/sitepages/home.asp, Shrewsbury and Waterford Family Page.

Sir William de Valence Knt., Earl of Pembroke1,2,3

M, #5812, b. circa 1225, d. before 18 May 1296
FatherHugues X "Le Brun" de Lusignan Comte de La Marche et d'Angoulême4,2,5 b. c 1190, d. a 6 Jun 1249
MotherIsabelle d'Angouleme (?) comtesse d'Angouleme, Queen Consort of England2,5 b. bt 1186 - 1187, d. c 4 Jun 1246
ReferenceGAV21
Last Edited18 Dec 2012
     Sir William de Valence Knt., Earl of Pembroke was born circa 1225 at Cistercian Abbey, Valence, France; Genealogy.EU (Lusignan 2 page) says b. 1225/60.6,1,2,5 He married Joan de Munchensy Lady of Swanscombe, daughter of Warin de Munchensy Lord of Swanscombe and Joan Marshal of Pembroke, on 13 August 1247.6,1,2,5
Sir William de Valence Knt., Earl of Pembroke was buried circa 1296 at Westminster Abbey, Westminster, City of Westminster, Greater London, England.1


Sir William de Valence Knt., Earl of Pembroke died before 18 May 1296 at England.6,1,2,5
Sir William de Valence Knt., Earl of Pembroke was buried after 18 May 1296 at Swanscombe, England.2


     GAV-21 EDV-19 GKJ-22. He was Lord of Valence, Montignac, Bellac, Rancon, and Champagnac.6

; Guillaume, a knight, Earl of Wexford and Pembroke btw 1250-60, he took the name of "de Valence", *1225-30, +18.l5.1296, bur Swascombe; m.Joan, Lady of Swanscombe and Earl of Pembroke (*ca 1230, +after 20.9.1307), dau.of Warin de Munchensy, Lord of Swanscombe and Earl of Pembroke, by Joan Marshal.2

; Weis AR: Lord of Valence, Montignac, Bellac, Rancon and Champagnac, Knighted
13 Oct 1247, crusader 6 Mar 1250.7,6 Sir William de Valence Knt., Earl of Pembroke was also known as Guillaume I "de Valence" de Lusignan.5 He was Crusader on 6 March 1250.

Citations

  1. [S757] Compiled by Carl Boyer 3rd, Medieval English Ancestors of Certain Americans: Many of the English Ancestral Lines Prior to 1300 of those Colonial Americans with known Royal Ancestry but Fully Developed in all Possible Lines (PO Box 220333, Santa Clarita, CA 91322-0333: Carl Boyer 3rd, 2001), pp. 138-139, de LUSIGNAN 7. Hereinafter cited as Boyer [2001] Med English Ancestors.
  2. [S1438] Miroslav Marek, online http://genealogy.euweb.cz/index.html, unknown author (e-mail address), downloaded updated 15 May 2003, Lusignan 2 page (de Lusignan Family): http://genealogy.euweb.cz/crus/lusignan2.html
  3. [S2261] Douglas Richardson, Plantagenet Ancestry: A Study in Colonial and Medieval Families, 1st edition (n.p.: Genealogical Publishing Company, Inc., 2004), Ruthin 8: p. 619. Hereinafter cited as Richardson PA.
  4. [S1490] Genealogics Website (oiginated by Leo van de Pas, continued by Ian Fettes), online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Hugues X 'le Brun' de Lusignan: http://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00008715&tree=LEO. Hereinafter cited as Genealogics Website.
  5. [S2280] Racines et Histoire, online http://racineshistoire.free.fr/LGN/LGN-frameset.html, http://racineshistoire.free.fr/LGN/PDF/Angouleme.pdf, p.7. Hereinafter cited as Racines et Histoire.
  6. [S632] Frederick Lewis Weis, Ancestral Roots of Certain American Colonists Who Came to America before 1700: The Lineage of Alfred the Great, Charlemagne, Malcolm of Scotland, Robert the Strong, and Some of Their Descendants, 7th edition (n.p.: Genealogical Publishing Co., Inc.
    Baltimore, 1992, unknown publish date), line 80-29, p. 77. Hereinafter cited as Weis AR-7.
  7. [S677] Jr. Christos Christou, GEDCOM file imported on 12 Feb 1999. Supplied by Christos Christou, Jr. - e-mail address (n.p.: Christos Christou, Jr.
    303 Nicholson Road
    Baltimore, MD 21221-6609
    Email: e-mail address, 1999).
  8. [S2280] Racines et Histoire, online http://racineshistoire.free.fr/LGN/LGN-frameset.html, http://racineshistoire.free.fr/LGN/PDF/Angouleme.pdf, p.9.
  9. [S757] Compiled by Carl Boyer 3rd, Boyer [2001] Med English Ancestors, pp. 138-139, de LUSIGNAN 7:i.
  10. [S757] Compiled by Carl Boyer 3rd, Boyer [2001] Med English Ancestors, pp. 138-139, de LUSIGNAN 7:ii.
  11. [S757] Compiled by Carl Boyer 3rd, Boyer [2001] Med English Ancestors, pp. 138-139, de LUSIGNAN 7:v.
  12. [S757] Compiled by Carl Boyer 3rd, Boyer [2001] Med English Ancestors, pp. 138-139, de LUSIGNAN 7:vi.
  13. [S1429] Unknown compiler, Notable British Families 1600s-1900s from Burke's Peerage., CD-ROM (n.p.: Broderbund Software Company, 1999), Notable British Families, Burke's Extinct Peerages, p. 21. Hereinafter cited as Notable British Families CD # 367.
  14. [S757] Compiled by Carl Boyer 3rd, Boyer [2001] Med English Ancestors, pp. 138-139, de LUSIGNAN 7:iii.

Joan de Munchensy Lady of Swanscombe1,2,3,4

F, #5813, b. circa 1230, d. before 30 September 1307
FatherWarin de Munchensy Lord of Swanscombe3,4 d. c 20 Jul 1255
MotherJoan Marshal of Pembroke3,4 d. b Nov 1234
ReferenceGAV21
Last Edited12 Apr 2009
     Joan de Munchensy Lady of Swanscombe was born circa 1230.3,4 She married Sir William de Valence Knt., Earl of Pembroke, son of Hugues X "Le Brun" de Lusignan Comte de La Marche et d'Angoulême and Isabelle d'Angouleme (?) comtesse d'Angouleme, Queen Consort of England, on 13 August 1247.5,1,3,4
Joan de Munchensy Lady of Swanscombe died before 30 September 1307; Genealogy.EU (Lusignan 2 page) says d. after 20 Sep 1307.5,1,3,4
     ; Joan, Lady of Swanscombe and Earl of Pembroke (*ca 1230, +after 20.9.1307), dau.of Warin de Munchensy, Lord of Swanscombe and Earl of Pembroke, by Joan Marshal.3 GAV-21.

; Weis AR.6

Citations

  1. [S757] Compiled by Carl Boyer 3rd, Medieval English Ancestors of Certain Americans: Many of the English Ancestral Lines Prior to 1300 of those Colonial Americans with known Royal Ancestry but Fully Developed in all Possible Lines (PO Box 220333, Santa Clarita, CA 91322-0333: Carl Boyer 3rd, 2001), pp. 138-139, de LUSIGNAN 7. Hereinafter cited as Boyer [2001] Med English Ancestors.
  2. [S757] Compiled by Carl Boyer 3rd, Boyer [2001] Med English Ancestors, p. 175, de MUNCHENSI 3.
  3. [S1438] Miroslav Marek, online http://genealogy.euweb.cz/index.html, unknown author (e-mail address), downloaded updated 15 May 2003, Lusignan 2 page (de Lusignan Family): http://genealogy.euweb.cz/crus/lusignan2.html
  4. [S2280] Racines et Histoire, online http://racineshistoire.free.fr/LGN/LGN-frameset.html, http://racineshistoire.free.fr/LGN/PDF/Angouleme.pdf, p.7. Hereinafter cited as Racines et Histoire.
  5. [S632] Frederick Lewis Weis, Ancestral Roots of Certain American Colonists Who Came to America before 1700: The Lineage of Alfred the Great, Charlemagne, Malcolm of Scotland, Robert the Strong, and Some of Their Descendants, 7th edition (n.p.: Genealogical Publishing Co., Inc.
    Baltimore, 1992, unknown publish date), line 80-29, p. 77. Hereinafter cited as Weis AR-7.
  6. [S677] Jr. Christos Christou, GEDCOM file imported on 12 Feb 1999. Supplied by Christos Christou, Jr. - e-mail address (n.p.: Christos Christou, Jr.
    303 Nicholson Road
    Baltimore, MD 21221-6609
    Email: e-mail address, 1999).
  7. [S2280] Racines et Histoire, online http://racineshistoire.free.fr/LGN/LGN-frameset.html, http://racineshistoire.free.fr/LGN/PDF/Angouleme.pdf, p.9.
  8. [S757] Compiled by Carl Boyer 3rd, Boyer [2001] Med English Ancestors, pp. 138-139, de LUSIGNAN 7:i.
  9. [S757] Compiled by Carl Boyer 3rd, Boyer [2001] Med English Ancestors, pp. 138-139, de LUSIGNAN 7:ii.
  10. [S757] Compiled by Carl Boyer 3rd, Boyer [2001] Med English Ancestors, pp. 138-139, de LUSIGNAN 7:v.
  11. [S757] Compiled by Carl Boyer 3rd, Boyer [2001] Med English Ancestors, pp. 138-139, de LUSIGNAN 7:vi.
  12. [S757] Compiled by Carl Boyer 3rd, Boyer [2001] Med English Ancestors, pp. 138-139, de LUSIGNAN 7:iii.

Sir John "Black Comyn" Comyn Lord of Badenoch

M, #5814, b. circa 1245, d. circa 1303
FatherSir John "Red Comyn" 1 Comyn1 b. b 1242, d. a 1273
MotherAmabilia (Or Alicia) (?)1
ReferenceGAV24 EDV21
Last Edited30 May 2020
     Sir John "Black Comyn" Comyn Lord of Badenoch was born circa 1245 at Badenoch, Scotland. He married Alianore/Eleanor Balliol, daughter of Sir John I de Balliol Knt., of Barnard Castle, Lord of Galloway, Regent of Scotland and Devorguilla (?) of Galloway, between 1279 and 1283.2,3
Sir John "Black Comyn" Comyn Lord of Badenoch died circa 1303.1
     Reference: Genealogics cites:
     1. The Lineage and Ancestry of H.R.H. Prince Charles, Prince of Wales, Edinburgh, 1977, Paget, Gerald. I 155
     2. The Scots Peerage 1904-1914, nine volumes , Paul, Sir James Balfour. 507,508.1 GAV-24 EDV-21 GKJ-22.

; Weis AR: Lord of Badenock, called the Black Comyn.4,5

; Contender for the throne of Scotland.6

Family

Alianore/Eleanor Balliol b. c 1245
Child

Citations

  1. [S1490] Genealogics Website (oiginated by Leo van de Pas, continued by Ian Fettes), online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, John Comyn 'the Black', Lord of Badenoch: https://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00027691&tree=LEO. Hereinafter cited as Genealogics Website.
  2. [S1426] Jiri Louda (Tables) and Michael Maclagan (text), Lines of Succession: Heraldry of the Royal Families of Europe (NY: Barnes & Noble Books, 2002), Table 12: Scotland: Kings until the accession of Robert Bruce. Hereinafter cited as Louda & Maclagan [2002] Lines of Succession.
  3. [S1490] Genealogics Website, online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Alianore Balliol: https://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00027687&tree=LEO
  4. [S677] Jr. Christos Christou, GEDCOM file imported on 12 Feb 1999. Supplied by Christos Christou, Jr. - e-mail address (n.p.: Christos Christou, Jr.
    303 Nicholson Road
    Baltimore, MD 21221-6609
    Email: e-mail address, 1999).
  5. [S632] Frederick Lewis Weis, Ancestral Roots of Certain American Colonists Who Came to America before 1700: The Lineage of Alfred the Great, Charlemagne, Malcolm of Scotland, Robert the Strong, and Some of Their Descendants, 7th edition (n.p.: Genealogical Publishing Co., Inc.
    Baltimore, 1992, unknown publish date), line 95-29, p. 92. Hereinafter cited as Weis AR-7.
  6. [S1361] Mike Ashley, The Mammoth Book of British Kings & Queens (New York: Carroll & Graf Publishers, Inc., 1998), p. 410 (Chart 22). Hereinafter cited as Ashley (1998) - British Kings.
  7. [S1429] Unknown compiler, Notable British Families 1600s-1900s from Burke's Peerage., CD-ROM (n.p.: Broderbund Software Company, 1999), Notable British Families, Burke's Extinct Peerages, p. 22. Hereinafter cited as Notable British Families CD # 367.
  8. [S2280] Racines et Histoire, online http://racineshistoire.free.fr/LGN/LGN-frameset.html, http://racineshistoire.free.fr/LGN/PDF/Angouleme.pdf, p.9. Hereinafter cited as Racines et Histoire.

Felicia Redman1

F, #5815
FatherSir Matthew Redman of Newcastle1
Last Edited29 Dec 2002
     Felicia Redman married Sir John de Lumley Knt., son of Sir Ralph de Lumley 1st Lord Lumley and Eleanor Neville.1 Felicia Redman married John Wodecok.1

Family 1

John Wodecok

Family 2

Sir John de Lumley Knt. b. bt 2 Feb 1382 - 1383, d. 22 Mar 1421
Child

Citations

  1. [S1396] Burke's Peerage & Gentry Web Site, online http://www.burkes-peerage.net/sites/peerageandgentry/sitepages/home.asp, Scarbrough Family Page. Hereinafter cited as Burke's Peerage & Gentry Web Site.

Philip Darcy 4th Lord Darcy of Knayth1,2

M, #5816, b. 21 May 1352, d. 24 April 1399
FatherJohn Darcy 2nd Lord Darcy de Knayth1 b. c 1317, d. 5 Mar 1355/56
MotherElizabeth de Meinill Baroness Meinill1 b. 15 Oct 1331, d. 9 Jul 1368
ReferenceEDV17 GKJ18
Last Edited4 Sep 2008
     Philip Darcy 4th Lord Darcy of Knayth married Elizabeth Gray, daughter of Sir Thomas de Grey Knt., Heton, Northumberland and Margaret de Pressene.3,1,2 Philip Darcy 4th Lord Darcy of Knayth was born on 21 May 1352 at Yorkshire, England.3,1
Philip Darcy 4th Lord Darcy of Knayth died on 24 April 1399 at age 46.3,1
     He was Lord Darcy of Knayth.3 He was 4th Lord (Baron) Darcy de Knayth.1

; PHILIP DARCY, 4th Lord (Baron) Darcy de Knayth; b 21 May 1352; served Hundred Years War Picardy and Caux campaigns July-Nov 1369 and Brittany campaign July 1380-April 1381, Adml Thames northwards 1386; m Elizabeth (d 11 Aug 1412), 2nd dau of Sir Thomas Gray, of Heton, Norhamshire (an area of Northumberland), and d 24 April 1399, leaving issue. EDV-17 GKJ-18.

; Weis AR: Baron Darcy of Knayth.4,5

Family

Elizabeth Gray b. c 1352, d. 11 Aug 1412
Children
  • Joan Darcy+6
  • Agnes Darcy+; J.W. Clay's Extinct and Dormant Peerages (1913), pp. 41-42 shows that Philip Darcy, 3rd Lord Darcy (b. ca. 1352, died 1399) above had a daughter named Agnes. She is not mentioned in her father's will dated 1399 but, according to Clay, she is mentioned in the will of her mother dated in 1411. If this identification is correct, it would provide a new addition to Complete Peerage sub Kildare. Presumably Agnes was not in her father's will in 1399, as she was already married and provisions had already been made for her. Clay does not identify this Agnes Darcy's marriage.7,8
  • Sir John Darcy Knt., 5th Lord Darcy of Knayth, 4th Lord Meinell+1,2,9 b. bt 1376 - 1377, d. 9 Dec 1411

Citations

  1. [S1396] Burke's Peerage & Gentry Web Site, online http://www.burkes-peerage.net/sites/peerageandgentry/sitepages/home.asp, Darcy de Knayth Family Page. Hereinafter cited as Burke's Peerage & Gentry Web Site.
  2. [S2261] Douglas Richardson, Plantagenet Ancestry: A Study in Colonial and Medieval Families, 1st edition (n.p.: Genealogical Publishing Company, Inc., 2004), Darcy 11: p. 256. Hereinafter cited as Richardson PA.
  3. [S633] With additions and corrections by Walter Lee Sheppard Jr. and William R. Beall Frederick Lewis Weis, The Magna Charta Sureties, 1215 : The Barons Named in the Magna
    Charta, 1215 and Some of Their Descendants Who Settled in America
    During the Early Colonial Years, 5th Edition
    (Baltimore, MD, USA: Genealogical Publishine Co., Inc., unknown publish date), line 33-10, p. 43. Hereinafter cited as Weis MCS-5.
  4. [S677] Jr. Christos Christou, GEDCOM file imported on 12 Feb 1999. Supplied by Christos Christou, Jr. - e-mail address (n.p.: Christos Christou, Jr.
    303 Nicholson Road
    Baltimore, MD 21221-6609
    Email: e-mail address, 1999).
  5. [S673] David Faris, Plantagenet Ancestry of Seventeenth-Century Colonists: The Descent from the Later Plantagenet Kings of England, Henry III, Edward I, and Edward III, of Emigrants from England and Wales to the North American Colonies before 1701, English Ancestry Series, Volume 1, Second Edition (Boston, MA: New England Historic Genealogical Society, 1999), pp. 110-111. Hereinafter cited as Faris [1999] - Plantagenet Ancestry.
  6. [S1490] Genealogics Website (oiginated by Leo van de Pas, continued by Ian Fettes), online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Joan Darcy: http://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00448643&tree=LEO. Hereinafter cited as Genealogics Website.
  7. [S1437] Douglas Richardson, "Richardson email "Maud de Roos, wife of John de Welle(s), 3rd Lord Welles"," e-mail message from e-mail address (unknown address) to e-mail address, 11 May 2003, I suggested in my post that Elizabeth Fitz Gerald's mother, Agnes Darcy, was the daughter of Sir Philip Darcy, Lord Darcy, by his wife, Elizabeth, daughter of Sir Thomas Gray...Since making my post, I've located a short article on the Botiller/Butler family in Miscellanea Genealogica et Heraldica 5th series, vol. 8 (1932-1934): 229-231. In a pedigree chart on pg. 231, the author identifies Agnes Darcy as the daughter of Sir Philip Darcy, Lord Darcy.. Hereinafter cited as "Richardson email 11 May 2003."
  8. [S2261] Douglas Richardson, Richardson PA, Butler 12: p. 178.
  9. [S1490] Genealogics Website, online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, John Darcy: http://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00108549&tree=LEO

Elizabeth Gray1,2

F, #5817, b. circa 1352, d. 11 August 1412
FatherSir Thomas de Grey Knt., Heton, Northumberland1,2 b. c 1330, d. b 22 Oct 1369
MotherMargaret de Pressene b. c 1330
ReferenceEDV17 GKJ18
Last Edited4 Sep 2008
     Elizabeth Gray married Philip Darcy 4th Lord Darcy of Knayth, son of John Darcy 2nd Lord Darcy de Knayth and Elizabeth de Meinill Baroness Meinill.3,1,2 Elizabeth Gray was born circa 1352.
Elizabeth Gray died on 11 August 1412.3
     EDV-17 GKJ-18.

; Weis AR.4

Family

Philip Darcy 4th Lord Darcy of Knayth b. 21 May 1352, d. 24 Apr 1399
Children

Citations

  1. [S1396] Burke's Peerage & Gentry Web Site, online http://www.burkes-peerage.net/sites/peerageandgentry/sitepages/home.asp, Darcy de Knayth Family Page. Hereinafter cited as Burke's Peerage & Gentry Web Site.
  2. [S2261] Douglas Richardson, Plantagenet Ancestry: A Study in Colonial and Medieval Families, 1st edition (n.p.: Genealogical Publishing Company, Inc., 2004), Darcy 11: p. 256. Hereinafter cited as Richardson PA.
  3. [S633] With additions and corrections by Walter Lee Sheppard Jr. and William R. Beall Frederick Lewis Weis, The Magna Charta Sureties, 1215 : The Barons Named in the Magna
    Charta, 1215 and Some of Their Descendants Who Settled in America
    During the Early Colonial Years, 5th Edition
    (Baltimore, MD, USA: Genealogical Publishine Co., Inc., unknown publish date), line 33-10, p. 43. Hereinafter cited as Weis MCS-5.
  4. [S677] Jr. Christos Christou, GEDCOM file imported on 12 Feb 1999. Supplied by Christos Christou, Jr. - e-mail address (n.p.: Christos Christou, Jr.
    303 Nicholson Road
    Baltimore, MD 21221-6609
    Email: e-mail address, 1999).
  5. [S1490] Genealogics Website (oiginated by Leo van de Pas, continued by Ian Fettes), online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Joan Darcy: http://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00448643&tree=LEO. Hereinafter cited as Genealogics Website.
  6. [S1437] Douglas Richardson, "Richardson email "Maud de Roos, wife of John de Welle(s), 3rd Lord Welles"," e-mail message from e-mail address (unknown address) to e-mail address, 11 May 2003, I suggested in my post that Elizabeth Fitz Gerald's mother, Agnes Darcy, was the daughter of Sir Philip Darcy, Lord Darcy, by his wife, Elizabeth, daughter of Sir Thomas Gray.. Hereinafter cited as "Richardson email 11 May 2003."
  7. [S1490] Genealogics Website, online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, John Darcy: http://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00108549&tree=LEO

Sir Thomas de Grey Knt., Heton, Northumberland1

M, #5818, b. circa 1330, d. before 22 October 1369
FatherSir Thomas de Grey Knt., of Heaton (in Norham), Northumberland2 d. b 12 Mar 1344
MotherMargaret de Presfen/Pressen2 b. c 1301
ReferenceEDV16 GKJ17
Last Edited25 Oct 2008
     Sir Thomas de Grey Knt., Heton, Northumberland was born circa 1330 at Heaton, Wark, Northumberland, England. He married Margaret de Pressene, daughter of William de Pressene, in 1353 at Heaton, Northumberland, England.3,4
Sir Thomas de Grey Knt., Heton, Northumberland died before 22 October 1369.5
     Sir Thomas de Grey Knt., Heton, Northumberland lived at Wark, Northumberland, England.4

; Sir THOMAS GREY; author: Scalacronica; m Margaret, dau of William de Pressene, of Presson, Northumberland, and d just prior to 22 Oct 1369.5 EDV-16 GKJ-17.

; Weis AR 33-10.6,7

Sir Thomas de Grey Knt., Heton, Northumberland lived at Heaton, Wark, Northumberland, England.8

Family

Margaret de Pressene b. c 1330
Children

Citations

  1. [S1396] Burke's Peerage & Gentry Web Site, online http://www.burkes-peerage.net/sites/peerageandgentry/sitepages/home.asp, Daubeney formerly of South Petherton Family Page. Hereinafter cited as Burke's Peerage & Gentry Web Site.
  2. [S812] e-mail address, online http://worldconnect.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/igm.cgi?db=bferris, Jr. William R. Ferris (unknown location), downloaded updated 4 Apr 2002, http://worldconnect.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/igm.cgi?op=GET&db=bferris&id=I47415
  3. [S812] e-mail address, updated 4 Apr 2002, http://worldconnect.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/igm.cgi?op=GET&db=bferris&id=I47417
  4. [S673] David Faris, Plantagenet Ancestry of Seventeenth-Century Colonists: The Descent from the Later Plantagenet Kings of England, Henry III, Edward I, and Edward III, of Emigrants from England and Wales to the North American Colonies before 1701, English Ancestry Series, Volume 1, Second Edition (Boston, MA: New England Historic Genealogical Society, 1999), p. 156. Hereinafter cited as Faris [1999] - Plantagenet Ancestry.
  5. [S1396] Burke's Peerage & Gentry Web Site, online http://www.burkes-peerage.net/sites/peerageandgentry/sitepages/home.asp, Grey, Earl Family Page.
  6. [S677] Jr. Christos Christou, GEDCOM file imported on 12 Feb 1999. Supplied by Christos Christou, Jr. - e-mail address (n.p.: Christos Christou, Jr.
    303 Nicholson Road
    Baltimore, MD 21221-6609
    Email: e-mail address, 1999).
  7. [S633] With additions and corrections by Walter Lee Sheppard Jr. and William R. Beall Frederick Lewis Weis, The Magna Charta Sureties, 1215 : The Barons Named in the Magna
    Charta, 1215 and Some of Their Descendants Who Settled in America
    During the Early Colonial Years, 5th Edition
    (Baltimore, MD, USA: Genealogical Publishine Co., Inc., unknown publish date), line 33-10, p. 43. Hereinafter cited as Weis MCS-5.
  8. [S673] David Faris, Faris [1999] - Plantagenet Ancestry, p. 110.
  9. [S1396] Burke's Peerage & Gentry Web Site, online http://www.burkes-peerage.net/sites/peerageandgentry/sitepages/home.asp, Darcy de Knayth Family Page.
  10. [S2261] Douglas Richardson, Plantagenet Ancestry: A Study in Colonial and Medieval Families, 1st edition (n.p.: Genealogical Publishing Company, Inc., 2004), Darcy 11: p. 256. Hereinafter cited as Richardson PA.
  11. [S2261] Douglas Richardson, Richardson PA, Gray 10: p. 353.

Margaret de Pressene1,2

F, #5819, b. circa 1330
FatherWilliam de Pressene3,2 b. c 1303
ReferenceEDV18 GKJ17
Last Edited25 Oct 2008
     Margaret de Pressene was born circa 1330 at Presson, Northumberland, England.1 She married Sir Thomas de Grey Knt., Heton, Northumberland, son of Sir Thomas de Grey Knt., of Heaton (in Norham), Northumberland and Margaret de Presfen/Pressen, in 1353 at Heaton, Northumberland, England.3,4
      EDV-18 GKJ-17.

; Weis AR.5 Margaret de Pressene was also known as Margaret de Presfen.6 Margaret de Pressene was also known as Margaret De Pressen.

Family

Sir Thomas de Grey Knt., Heton, Northumberland b. c 1330, d. b 22 Oct 1369
Children

Citations

  1. [S812] e-mail address, online http://worldconnect.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/igm.cgi?db=bferris, Jr. William R. Ferris (unknown location), downloaded updated 4 Apr 2002, http://worldconnect.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/igm.cgi?op=GET&db=bferris&id=I47416
  2. [S1396] Burke's Peerage & Gentry Web Site, online http://www.burkes-peerage.net/sites/peerageandgentry/sitepages/home.asp, Grey, Earl Family Page. Hereinafter cited as Burke's Peerage & Gentry Web Site.
  3. [S812] e-mail address, updated 4 Apr 2002, http://worldconnect.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/igm.cgi?op=GET&db=bferris&id=I47417
  4. [S673] David Faris, Plantagenet Ancestry of Seventeenth-Century Colonists: The Descent from the Later Plantagenet Kings of England, Henry III, Edward I, and Edward III, of Emigrants from England and Wales to the North American Colonies before 1701, English Ancestry Series, Volume 1, Second Edition (Boston, MA: New England Historic Genealogical Society, 1999), p. 156. Hereinafter cited as Faris [1999] - Plantagenet Ancestry.
  5. [S677] Jr. Christos Christou, GEDCOM file imported on 12 Feb 1999. Supplied by Christos Christou, Jr. - e-mail address (n.p.: Christos Christou, Jr.
    303 Nicholson Road
    Baltimore, MD 21221-6609
    Email: e-mail address, 1999).
  6. [S632] Frederick Lewis Weis, Ancestral Roots of Certain American Colonists Who Came to America before 1700: The Lineage of Alfred the Great, Charlemagne, Malcolm of Scotland, Robert the Strong, and Some of Their Descendants, 7th edition (n.p.: Genealogical Publishing Co., Inc.
    Baltimore, 1992, unknown publish date), line 88--34, p. 88. Hereinafter cited as Weis AR-7.
  7. [S2261] Douglas Richardson, Plantagenet Ancestry: A Study in Colonial and Medieval Families, 1st edition (n.p.: Genealogical Publishing Company, Inc., 2004), Gray 10: p. 353. Hereinafter cited as Richardson PA.

John Darcy 2nd Lord Darcy de Knayth1,2

M, #5820, b. circa 1317, d. 5 March 1355/56
FatherSir John Darcy 1st Lord Darcy de Knayth b. a 15 Jun 1271, d. 1356
MotherEmmeline Heron b. c 1291
ReferenceEDV18 GKJ19
Last Edited30 Jan 2003
     John Darcy 2nd Lord Darcy de Knayth was born circa 1317.2 He married Alianore de Holand, daughter of Sir Robert de Holand Knt., 1st Lord Holand of Upholland and Maud La Zouche, before 8 July 1332; his 1st wife.1,2 John Darcy 2nd Lord Darcy de Knayth married Elizabeth de Meinill Baroness Meinill, daughter of Sir Nicholas de Meinill 1st Lord Meinill of Whorlton and Alice de Ros, circa 7 January 1345; dispensation 7 Jan 1344/5; his 2nd wife, her 1st husband.3,2
John Darcy 2nd Lord Darcy de Knayth died on 5 March 1355/56 at Crecy, France.
     EDV-18 GKJ-19. He was 2nd Lord (Baron) Darcy de Knayth.3,2

; JOHN DARCY, 2nd Lord (Baron) Darcy de Knayth; b c 1317; present Battle of Crécy and Siege of Calais 1346-47, Constable Tower of London 1347 (for life), when called to Parl (which he was 20 Nov 1348 to 15 March 1353/4) was addressed by writs made out to 'John Darcy de Knayth', almost certainly so as to make a distinction between him and three similarly named relatives (f, s and gs) known as 'John Darcy of (Coningsby) Park'; m 1st by 8 July 1332 Alianore de Holand (dspm before 21 Nov 1341), dau of 1st Lord (Baron) Holand of the 1314 cr (see ZOUCHE, B); m 2nd (dispensation 7 Jan 1344/5) Elizabeth (m 2nd before 18 Nov 1356 as his 1st w 3rd Lord (Baron) Mauley of the 1295 cr and d 9 July 1368), only child and heir (hence according to later doctrine de jure Baroness Menille) of 1st Lord (Baron) Menille of the 1336 cr, and d 5 March 1355/6.2

; Weis AR: 2nd baron Darcy, Baron of Knayth Co, Lincoln, slain at Cresy his
second wife was Elizabeth Meinell.4

Family

Elizabeth de Meinill Baroness Meinill b. 15 Oct 1331, d. 9 Jul 1368
Children

Citations

  1. [S1396] Burke's Peerage & Gentry Web Site, online http://www.burkes-peerage.net/sites/peerageandgentry/sitepages/home.asp, Zouche Family Page. Hereinafter cited as Burke's Peerage & Gentry Web Site.
  2. [S1396] Burke's Peerage & Gentry Web Site, online http://www.burkes-peerage.net/sites/peerageandgentry/sitepages/home.asp, Darcy de Knayth Family Page.
  3. [S633] With additions and corrections by Walter Lee Sheppard Jr. and William R. Beall Frederick Lewis Weis, The Magna Charta Sureties, 1215 : The Barons Named in the Magna
    Charta, 1215 and Some of Their Descendants Who Settled in America
    During the Early Colonial Years, 5th Edition
    (Baltimore, MD, USA: Genealogical Publishine Co., Inc., unknown publish date), line 33-9, p. 43. Hereinafter cited as Weis MCS-5.
  4. [S677] Jr. Christos Christou, GEDCOM file imported on 12 Feb 1999. Supplied by Christos Christou, Jr. - e-mail address (n.p.: Christos Christou, Jr.
    303 Nicholson Road
    Baltimore, MD 21221-6609
    Email: e-mail address, 1999).