Ralph (?) Count de Bayeux1

M, #22951
FatherMalahulc or Tresney (?) b. c 850, d. c 911
Last Edited11 Mar 2020

Roger II de Saint-Sauveur1

M, #22952, d. between 1037 and 1038
FatherNéel III de Saint-Sauveur1 d. b 1092
Last Edited11 Mar 2020
     Roger II de Saint-Sauveur married Cecile de Port, daughter of Enguerrand de Port.1
Roger II de Saint-Sauveur died between 1037 and 1038; Murdered.1
     ; Per Med Lands:
     "ROGER [II] (-murdered [1137/38]). A charter dated to [1136] records the foundation of the abbey of Saint-Sauveur, first constructed "tempore vetuli Ricardi comitis" (Richard II Duke of Normandy) "et Rogeri vicecomitis", the placing of monks by "Nigellus vicecomes", and the donations by "nepotes autem eius Nigellus…et Rogerius", a later passage clarifying that they were "Nigellus vicecomes…fratre suo Rogero"[720]. Orderic Vitalis records that Stephen King of England appointed "Guillelmum de Rolmara et Rogerium vicecomitem" in Normandy[721]. Orderic Vitalis records that "Rogerius vicecomes" was murdered in an ambush, dated to [1137/38][722].
     "m CECILE, daughter of [ENGUERRAND de Port & his wife ---]. A charter dated to [1136] records donations to the abbey of Saint-Sauveur, including that of "Rogerus vicecomes, frater Nigelli, et Cecilia uxor eius"[723]. Delisle suggests her possible parentage based on a charter dated 1202[724]."
Med Lands cites:
[720] Delisle (1867), Pièces justificatives, 48, p. 59.
[721] Orderic Vitalis (Prévost), Vol. V, Liber XIII, XXXIII, p. 91.
[722] Orderic Vitalis (Prévost), Vol. V, Liber XIII, XXXIII, p. 105.
[723] Delisle (1867), Pièces justificatives, 48, p. 62.
[724] Delisle (1867), p. 29, citing Rot. Norm., p. 16.1

Family

Cecile de Port

Citations

  1. [S2203] Foundation for Medieval Genealogy (FMG): MEDIEVAL LANDS - A prosopography of medieval European noble and royal families, online http://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/index.htm, https://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/normabc.htm#NeelIISaintSauvedied1092. Hereinafter cited as FMG Medieval Lands Website.

(?) Shaw Laird of Sauchie1

M, #22953
Last Edited27 Nov 2002

Family

Child

Citations

  1. [S1396] Burke's Peerage & Gentry Web Site, online http://www.burkes-peerage.net/sites/peerageandgentry/sitepages/home.asp, Stuart Earls of Moray Family Page. Hereinafter cited as Burke's Peerage & Gentry Web Site.

(?) de Saint-Sauveur1

M, #22955
FatherNéel III de Saint-Sauveur1 d. b 1092
Last Edited11 Mar 2020
     ; Per Med Lands:
     " --- . m ---. Two children:
i) LETICIE (-after 1178).
ii) daughter . m ---. One child:
(a) FOULQUES des Prés ."

Med Lands cites.1

Family

Child

Citations

  1. [S2203] Foundation for Medieval Genealogy (FMG): MEDIEVAL LANDS - A prosopography of medieval European noble and royal families, online http://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/index.htm, https://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/normabc.htm#NeelIISaintSauvedied1092. Hereinafter cited as FMG Medieval Lands Website.
  2. [S2203] FMG Medieval Lands Website, online http://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/index.htm, https://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/normabc.htm#LeticieMJourdainTaisson

Jourdain Taisson1

M, #22956, d. 1178
FatherRalph II Taisson2,3,1 d. a 1129
MotherAdeliza (?)3,4
Last Edited26 Jul 2020
     Jourdain Taisson married Leticie de Saint-Sauveur, daughter of (?) de Saint-Sauveur, before 1145.5,1,3,6
Jourdain Taisson died in 1178.1,3
     ; Per Med Lands:
     "JOURDAIN Taisson (-1178). Jourdain Taisson confirmed the grants of "Raoul son père et Adelize sa mère" to Savigny by undated charter[758]. "Jordanus Taison et Leticia sponsa mea" donated property to Saint-Sauveur by charter dated 1145, witnessed by "…Roberto de Perceio…Roberto de Vuas, Nicholao fratres illius Roberti"[759]. "…Jordano Tesson…" witnessed the charter dated to [end 1150/early Sep 1151] which "H. dux Normannorum" issued for the hôpital de Falaise[760]. The Red Book of the Exchequer records enfeoffments in the duchy of Normandy in [1172], "Jordanus Taisson" with 10 knights "de Treverio" and 30 knights in his own service[761]. "Iordanus Taisson et Lætitia uxor mea cum filiis nostris Radulfo, Rogerio et Iordano" donated property to Saint-Sauveur by undated charter[762]. Benedict of Peterborough names "Jordanus Tessun" among those who led the army of Henry II King of England against Louis VII King of France who had besieged Verneuil in 1173[763].
     "m LETICIE, daughter of --- (-after 1178). "Jordanus Taison et Leticia sponsa mea" donated property to Saint-Sauveur by charter dated 1145, witnessed by "…Roberto de Perceio…Roberto de Vuas, Nicholao fratres illius Roberti"[764]. Her parentage is confirmed by the charter dated to [1180] which records donations to Saint-Sauveur by "Leticia, neptis Rogerii vicecomitis et uxor Jordani Thessonis, jam defuncti"[765]. "Iordanus Taisson et Lætitia uxor mea cum filiis nostris Radulfo, Rogerio et Iordano" donated property to Saint-Sauveur by undated charter[766]. "Letitia de Sancto Salvatore, qui fui uxor Jordani Tesson" donated property to the abbey of Hambie, witnessed by "Jordano Tesson filio meo, Roberto de Monte acuto milite, Letitia filia mea uxore Fulconis Paganelli"[767]. Jourdain & his wife had [six] children"
Med Lands cites:
[758] Delisle (1867), p. 33, citing Cartulaire de Savigny, f. 52, n. 206.
[759] Delisle (1867), Pièces justificatives, 49, p. 65.
[760] Actes Henri II, Tome I, XIII, p. 17.
[761] Red Book Exchequer, Part II, Infeudationes militum…duci Normanniæ…1172, p. 628.
[762] Neustria Pia, p. 540.
[763] Benedict of Peterborough, Vol. 1, 1173, p. 52.
[764] Delisle (1867), Pièces justificatives, 49, p. 65.
[765] Delisle (1867), Pièces justificatives, 54, p. 78.
[766] Neustria Pia, p. 540.
[767] Delisle (1867), p. 35, citing Cartulaire de Hambie, n. 170.1
Jourdain Taisson was also known as Jordan Taisson.3 Jourdain Taisson was also known as Jourdain Tesson.

Family 2

Leticie de Saint-Sauveur d. a 1178
Child

Citations

  1. [S2203] Foundation for Medieval Genealogy (FMG): MEDIEVAL LANDS - A prosopography of medieval European noble and royal families, online http://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/index.htm, https://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/normabc.htm#JourdainTaissondied1178. Hereinafter cited as FMG Medieval Lands Website.
  2. [S1490] Genealogics Website (oiginated by Leo van de Pas, continued by Ian Fettes), online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Ralph Taisson: https://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00450432&tree=LEO. Hereinafter cited as Genealogics Website.
  3. [S1490] Genealogics Website, online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Jordan Taisson: https://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00450434&tree=LEO
  4. [S1490] Genealogics Website, online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Adeliza: https://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00450433&tree=LEO
  5. [S2203] FMG Medieval Lands Website, online http://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/index.htm, https://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/normabc.htm#LeticieMJourdainTaisson
  6. [S1490] Genealogics Website, online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Letitia de St.Sauveur: https://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00450435&tree=LEO
  7. [S2203] FMG Medieval Lands Website, online http://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/index.htm, https://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/normabc.htm#CecileTaissonMFulkIIPaynell

Leticie de Saint-Sauveur1

F, #22957, d. after 1178
Father(?) de Saint-Sauveur1
Last Edited26 Jul 2020
     Leticie de Saint-Sauveur married Jourdain Taisson, son of Ralph II Taisson and Adeliza (?), before 1145.1,2,3,4
Leticie de Saint-Sauveur died after 1178.1
     ; Per Med Lands:
     "LETICIE (-after 1178). Her parentage is confirmed by the charter dated to [1180] which records donations to Saint-Sauveur by "Leticia, neptis Rogerii vicecomitis et uxor Jordani Thessonis, jam defuncti"[725]. "Jordanus Taison et Leticia sponsa mea" donated property to Saint-Sauveur by charter dated 1145, witnessed by "…Roberto de Perceio…Roberto de Vuas, Nicholao fratres illius Roberti"[726]. "Iordanus Taisson et Lætitia uxor mea cum filiis nostris Radulfo, Rogerio et Iordano" donated property to Saint-Sauveur by undated charter[727]. "Letitia de Sancto Salvatore, qui fui uxor Jordani Tesson" donated property to the abbey of Hambie, witnessed by "Jordano Tesson filio meo, Roberto de Monte acuto milite, Letitia filia mea uxore Fulconis Paganelli"[728].
     "m (before 1145) JOURDAIN Taisson, son of RAOUL & his wife Adelise --- (-1178)."
Med Lands cites:
[725] Delisle (1867), Pièces justificatives, 54, p. 78.
[726] Delisle (1867), Pièces justificatives, 49, p. 65.
[727] Neustria Pia, p. 540.
[728] Delisle (1867), p. 35, citing Cartulaire de Hambie, n. 170.1
Leticie de Saint-Sauveur was also known as Letitia de St. Sauveur.4

Family

Jourdain Taisson d. 1178
Child

Citations

  1. [S2203] Foundation for Medieval Genealogy (FMG): MEDIEVAL LANDS - A prosopography of medieval European noble and royal families, online http://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/index.htm, https://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/normabc.htm#LeticieMJourdainTaisson. Hereinafter cited as FMG Medieval Lands Website.
  2. [S2203] FMG Medieval Lands Website, online http://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/index.htm, https://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/normabc.htm#JourdainTaissondied1178
  3. [S1490] Genealogics Website (oiginated by Leo van de Pas, continued by Ian Fettes), online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Jordan Taisson: https://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00450434&tree=LEO. Hereinafter cited as Genealogics Website.
  4. [S1490] Genealogics Website, online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Letitia de St.Sauveur: https://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00450435&tree=LEO
  5. [S2203] FMG Medieval Lands Website, online http://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/index.htm, https://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/normabc.htm#CecileTaissonMFulkIIPaynell

Hammon de Saint-Sauveur1

M, #22958
FatherRoger de Saint-Sauveur vicomte du Cotentin b. c 944, d. 996
ReferenceGAV29 EDV28
Last Edited11 Mar 2020
     Hammon de Saint-Sauveur married Godchild (?)1
     GAV-29 EDV-28 GKJ-30. Hammon de Saint-Sauveur was also known as Hammon de St. Sauveur.

Richard Thurston de St. Sauveur1

M, #22959
ReferenceGAV27 EDV27
Last Edited11 Mar 2020
     Richard Thurston de St. Sauveur married Anna (?)2
     GAV-27 EDV-27.

Hugo de Calvacamp1

M, #22960, b. circa 890
FatherMalahulc or Tresney (?) b. c 850, d. c 911
Last Edited11 Mar 2020
     Hugo de Calvacamp was born circa 890.

Anna (?)1

F, #22961
ReferenceGAV27 EDV27
Last Edited4 May 2003
     Anna (?) married Richard Thurston de St. Sauveur.1
     GAV-27 EDV-27 GKJ-27.

Bertha de Glanville

F, #22962
FatherSir Gerard de Glanville d. c 1189
MotherEmma de Cuckney
Last Edited10 Jun 2020
     Bertha de Glanville married William de Stuteville of Cottingham, son of Robert III de Stuteville Sheriff of York, Lord of Cottenham and Helewise (?).1,2
     Reference: van de Pas cites: Ancestral Roots of Certain American Colonists who came to America bef.1700, 7th Edition, 1992, Weis, Frederick Lewis. 87.2

; Per Bevans on Soc Gen Med: "William son and heir, the king's justice. Married Berta possibly granddaughter (as she appears younger than the 4 daughters and outlived them) of Ranulf de Glanville. [The Durham Liber Vitae lists "Rannulfus de Glanvile et uxor ejus Berta, Matillis, Amabilis, Helewisa, Mabilia filae eorum, et Berct"]. On the death of her son Berta's property fell to Ranulf son of Robert of Middleham, Thomas de Arderne and Hugh de Auberville who each had a third of her lands in Bramham and Leyburn. All three were sons and representatives of the daughters of Ranulph de Glanville. Hugh d.1203, leaving son and heir Robert IV who died s.p.under age in 1205. William also had an illegitimate daughter.
[Sources: Keats-Rohan, 'Domesday Descendants'. p.724 ; Clay, 'Early Yorkshire Charters' v.8, p.5-15, 90, 95 ; Sanders, 'English Baronies: a study of their origin and descent 1086-1327', p.37]"3,4

Family

William de Stuteville of Cottingham b. c 1155, d. 1202
Child

Citations

  1. [S812] e-mail address, online http://worldconnect.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/igm.cgi?db=bferris, Jr. William R. Ferris (unknown location), downloaded updated 4 Apr 2002, http://worldconnect.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/igm.cgi?op=GET&db=bferris&id=I30857
  2. [S1490] Genealogics Website (oiginated by Leo van de Pas, continued by Ian Fettes), online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Berta: https://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00470450&tree=LEO. Hereinafter cited as Genealogics Website.
  3. [S4766] Et al Rosie Bevan, ""Ancestry of Margery de Stuteville, wife of Sir Richard Foliot" (30 posts by 9 authors)," e-mail message from (https://groups.google.com/forum/print/msg/soc.genealogy.medieval/TZJlpxTzthU/mgH3_rtA8SAJ?ctz=5490243_72_76_104100_72_446760) to Email chain on soc.genealogy.medieval mail list, 31 Aug 2002. Hereinafter cited as "Soc.Gen.Med: Ancestry of Margery de Stuteville."
  4. [S4767] Et al Rosie Bevan, ""Stuteville of Cottingham"," e-mail message from (https://groups.google.com/forum/print/msg/soc.genealogy.medieval/TZJlpxTzthU/mgH3_rtA8SAJ?ctz=5490243_72_76_104100_72_446760) to Email chain on soc.genealogy.medieval mail list, 31 Aug 2002. Hereinafter cited as "Soc.Gen.Med: Ancestry of Margery de Stuteville."
  5. [S1490] Genealogics Website, online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Robert de Stuteville: https://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00601724&tree=LEO

Sir Gerard de Glanville1

M, #22963, d. circa 1189
FatherSir Hervey de Glanville2,3 b. 1073, d. 1147
MotherMabel (?)3
Last Edited10 Jun 2020
     Sir Gerard de Glanville married Emma de Cuckney, daughter of Thomas fitz Richard de Cuckney of Cuckney, co. Notts. and Emma (?).3
Sir Gerard de Glanville died circa 1189.

Citations

  1. [S812] e-mail address, online http://worldconnect.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/igm.cgi?db=bferris, Jr. William R. Ferris (unknown location), downloaded updated 4 Apr 2002, http://worldconnect.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/igm.cgi?op=GET&db=bferris&id=I30860
  2. [S1558] John P. Ravilious, "Ravilious email 19 Jan 2004: "Re: Crusader ancestors (long)"," e-mail message from e-mail address (unknown address) to e-mail address, 19 Jan 2004. Hereinafter cited as "Ravilious email 19 Jan 2004."
  3. [S1971] John P. Ravilious, "Ravilious email 3 Oct 2005: "Ancestry of the Lords Fauconberg: Thomas fitz Richard de Cuckney"," e-mail message from e-mail address (unknown address) to e-mail address, 3 Oct 2005. Hereinafter cited as "Ravilious email 3 Oct 2005."

Emma de Cuckney1

F, #22964
FatherThomas fitz Richard de Cuckney of Cuckney, co. Notts.1
MotherEmma (?)1
Last Edited10 Jun 2020
     Emma de Cuckney married Sir Gerard de Glanville, son of Sir Hervey de Glanville and Mabel (?).1
     ; per Ravilious: [quote] Emma de Cuckney[1]
cf. Mon. Angl. VI(2):873, Num. VII[1]
Spouse: Gerard de Glanville
Father: Hervey de Glanville
Mother: Mabel
[end quote]

Ravilious cites:
1. Sir William Dugdale, "Monasticon Anglicanum," London: Harding & Lepard; and Longman Rees... Green, 1830. http://monasticmatrix.usc.edu/bibliographia/index.php?function=detail&id=2659.1 Emma de Cuckney was also known as Emma de Cukeney.

Citations

  1. [S1971] John P. Ravilious, "Ravilious email 3 Oct 2005: "Ancestry of the Lords Fauconberg: Thomas fitz Richard de Cuckney"," e-mail message from e-mail address (unknown address) to e-mail address, 3 Oct 2005. Hereinafter cited as "Ravilious email 3 Oct 2005."

Sir Hervey de Glanville1,2,3

M, #22965, b. 1073, d. 1147
FatherRanulph de Glanville d. c 1070
MotherFlandrina (?)
ReferenceGAV25 EDV26
Last Edited1 Oct 2006
     Sir Hervey de Glanville married Mabel (?) Sir Hervey de Glanville married (?) de Salt-Les-Dames, daughter of Roger de Salt-Les-Dames.2 Sir Hervey de Glanville was born in 1073 at Eye, co. Suffolk, England.4
Sir Hervey de Glanville died in 1147.
     GAV-25 EDV-26 GKJ-26. He was leader of the contingent that conquered Lisbon for Count (then king) Alfonso, 1147-48 [DD 477]

From Osbern's account:

" The city of Lisbon at the time of our arrival consisted of
sixty thousand families paying taxes-this figure includes the suburbs
round about, except the free ones, which pay taxes to no one. A
circular wall there surrounds the top of the hill and, at the left
and right, the city walls descend to the banks of the Tagus River.
The suburbs, down below the city wall, are cut into the banks of the
river in such a way that each of them has a superbly fortified
citadel. The place is girded with pitfalls. The city was populous
beyond belief....
" On the vigil of St. Peter the Apostle [June 30 1147] we
arrived there at the dinner hour. After the meal some of our men
landed from the ships on the shore next to the city. The Moors
opposed their landing, but they were unable to withstand our forces
and were driven back, not without losses, to the gate of the suburb.
Saher of Archelle, however, angered at the enemy's scheme, called our
men back from the attack and thanked God that, unlike those who had
previously attempted this task, we had had a different experience at
the outset. He convoked those who were there and ordered that the
tents be pitched atop the hills which overlooked the town, barely a
stick's throw away. He held that it would be a shame to give ground
after the first brush with the enemy, lest we seem to be yielding to
them. All those present favored his stand. When the first watch of
the night came, however, only two tents - those of Hervey of
Glanville and Saher of Archelle - had been pitched, for all the
others had gone back to the ships...." [1]

[1] Osbernus, De expugnatione Lyxbonensi, ed. William Stubbs,
Chronicles and Memorials of the Reign of Richard, Rolls series
(London: Longmans, 1864), I, clv-clvi, clx-clxi, clxiv, clxvi,
clxxviii-clxxx, 20-23, translated by James Brundage, The
Crusades: A Documentary History, (Milwaukee, WI: Marquette
University Press, 1962), 97-104.3

Family 1

(?) de Salt-Les-Dames b. 1074
Child

Family 2

Mabel (?)
Children

Citations

  1. [S812] e-mail address, online http://worldconnect.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/igm.cgi?db=bferris, Jr. William R. Ferris (unknown location), downloaded updated 4 Apr 2002, http://worldconnect.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/igm.cgi?op=GET&db=bferris&id=I30862
  2. [S1217] e-mail address, online http://worldconnect.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/igm.cgi?db=:1590432, Sue Cary (unknown location), downloaded updated 25 Aug 2001.
  3. [S1558] John P. Ravilious, "Ravilious email 19 Jan 2004: "Re: Crusader ancestors (long)"," e-mail message from e-mail address (unknown address) to e-mail address, 19 Jan 2004. Hereinafter cited as "Ravilious email 19 Jan 2004."
  4. [S1217] e-mail address, updated 25 Aug 2001, http://worldconnect.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/igm.cgi?op=GET&db=:1590432&id=I20046
  5. [S1971] John P. Ravilious, "Ravilious email 3 Oct 2005: "Ancestry of the Lords Fauconberg: Thomas fitz Richard de Cuckney"," e-mail message from e-mail address (unknown address) to e-mail address, 3 Oct 2005. Hereinafter cited as "Ravilious email 3 Oct 2005."

Mabel (?)1

F, #22966
ReferenceGAV25 EDV27
Last Edited1 Oct 2006
     Mabel (?) married Sir Hervey de Glanville, son of Ranulph de Glanville and Flandrina (?).
     GAV-25 EDV-27 GKJ-27.

Family

Sir Hervey de Glanville b. 1073, d. 1147
Children

Citations

  1. [S1971] John P. Ravilious, "Ravilious email 3 Oct 2005: "Ancestry of the Lords Fauconberg: Thomas fitz Richard de Cuckney"," e-mail message from e-mail address (unknown address) to e-mail address, 3 Oct 2005. Hereinafter cited as "Ravilious email 3 Oct 2005."

Helewise Glanville1

F, #22967
FatherRanulph de Glanville b. 1121, d. 1191
MotherBertha de Valoignes b. 1129
Last Edited26 Jun 2006

Ranulph de Glanville1

M, #22968, b. 1121, d. 1191
FatherSir Hervey de Glanville2 b. 1073, d. 1147
MotherMabel (?)
ReferenceGAV26 EDV25
Last Edited5 Sep 2019
     Ranulph de Glanville married Bertha de Valoignes, daughter of Theobald de Valoignes.3 Ranulph de Glanville was born in 1121 at Eye, co. Suffolk, England.3
Ranulph de Glanville died in 1191.
     GAV-26 EDV-25. Ranulph de Glanville was also known as Ralph de Glanville.3

Citations

  1. [S812] e-mail address, online http://worldconnect.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/igm.cgi?db=bferris, Jr. William R. Ferris (unknown location), downloaded updated 4 Apr 2002, http://worldconnect.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/igm.cgi?op=GET&db=bferris&id=I31188
  2. [S1558] John P. Ravilious, "Ravilious email 19 Jan 2004: "Re: Crusader ancestors (long)"," e-mail message from e-mail address (unknown address) to e-mail address, 19 Jan 2004. Hereinafter cited as "Ravilious email 19 Jan 2004."
  3. [S1217] e-mail address, online http://worldconnect.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/igm.cgi?db=:1590432, Sue Cary (unknown location), downloaded updated 25 Aug 2001.
  4. [S1490] Genealogics Website (oiginated by Leo van de Pas, continued by Ian Fettes), online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Matilda de Glanville: https://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00638433&tree=LEO. Hereinafter cited as Genealogics Website.

Raoul I "Le Roux" de Clermont comte de Clermont, seigneur de Breteuil, Connétable de France1,2

M, #22969, b. between 1130 and 1134, d. 15 October 1191
FatherRenaud II/III (?) Cte de Clermont-en-Beauvais,2,3,4 b. c 1090, d. bt 1152 - 1153
MotherClémence/Clementia de Bar Comtesse de Dammartin2,4,3 b. c 1110, d. a 20 Jan 1182/83
Last Edited29 Jun 2020
     Raoul I "Le Roux" de Clermont comte de Clermont, seigneur de Breteuil, Connétable de France married Alix (Adélaïde) de Breteuil dame de Breteuil, daughter of Galeran (Waleran/Valeran) III de Breteuil seigneur de Breteuil and Holdeburge (?) Dame d'Ailly-sur-Noye et de Tartigny.1,5 Raoul I "Le Roux" de Clermont comte de Clermont, seigneur de Breteuil, Connétable de France was born between 1130 and 1134; Genealogy.EU says b. ca 1140; Med Lands says be. bef 1140.2,3
Raoul I "Le Roux" de Clermont comte de Clermont, seigneur de Breteuil, Connétable de France died on 15 October 1191 at Siege of Acre, Acre, HaTzafon (Northern District), Palestine (Israel now).2
     ; Leo van de Pas cites: Europaische Stammtafeln, J. A. Stargardt Verlag, Marburg, Schwennicke, Detlev (Ed.), Reference: II 47.1

Citations

  1. [S1490] Genealogics Website (oiginated by Leo van de Pas, continued by Ian Fettes), online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Raoul: http://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00330789&tree=LEO. Hereinafter cited as Genealogics Website.
  2. [S2280] Racines et Histoire, online http://racineshistoire.free.fr/LGN/LGN-frameset.html, http://racineshistoire.free.fr/LGN/PDF/Breteuil.pdf, p. 5. Hereinafter cited as Racines et Histoire.
  3. [S2203] Foundation for Medieval Genealogy (FMG): MEDIEVAL LANDS - A prosopography of medieval European noble and royal families, online http://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/index.htm, https://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/parclerdam.htm#Renauddiedbefore1162. Hereinafter cited as FMG Medieval Lands Website.
  4. [S2280] Racines et Histoire, online http://racineshistoire.free.fr/LGN/LGN-frameset.html, http://racineshistoire.free.fr/LGN/PDF/Flandres.pdf, p. 7.
  5. [S1490] Genealogics Website, online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Adelaide de Breteuil: http://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00330790&tree=LEO
  6. [S1490] Genealogics Website, online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Catherine de Clermont: http://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00330779&tree=LEO

Ranulph de Glanville1

M, #22970, d. circa 1070
FatherRainald de Glanville b. 1030, d. c 1054
ReferenceGAV26 EDV25
Last Edited14 Jan 2003
     Ranulph de Glanville married Flandrina (?)
Ranulph de Glanville died circa 1070.
     GAV-26 EDV-25 GKJ-27.

Flandrina (?)1

F, #22971
ReferenceGAV26 EDV25
Last Edited14 Jan 2003
     Flandrina (?) married Ranulph de Glanville, son of Rainald de Glanville.
     GAV-26 EDV-25 GKJ-27.

Family

Ranulph de Glanville d. c 1070
Children

Rainald de Glanville1

M, #22972, b. 1030, d. circa 1054
FatherRichard de Belfoi Lord of Glanville
ReferenceGAV27 EDV26
Last Edited4 Jan 2003
     Rainald de Glanville married an unknown person. He was born in 1030.2
Rainald de Glanville died circa 1054.
     GAV-27 EDV-26 GKJ-28. Rainald de Glanville was also known as Ralph de Glanville.2

Family

Children

Richard de Belfoi Lord of Glanville1

M, #22973
FatherHammon de Saint-Sauveur
MotherGodchild (?)
ReferenceGAV28 EDV27
Last Edited4 Jan 2003
     Richard de Belfoi Lord of Glanville married an unknown person.
     GAV-28 EDV-27 GKJ-29.

Family

Child

James "Tertius" Stuart1

M, #22974
FatherJames V Stuart King of Scots1 b. 10 Apr 1512, d. 14 Dec 1542
MotherChristian Barclay1
Last Edited27 Nov 2002

Citations

  1. [S1396] Burke's Peerage & Gentry Web Site, online http://www.burkes-peerage.net/sites/peerageandgentry/sitepages/home.asp, Stuart Earls of Moray Family Page. Hereinafter cited as Burke's Peerage & Gentry Web Site.

Godchild (?)1

F, #22975
ReferenceGAV29 EDV28
Last Edited4 Jan 2003
     Godchild (?) married Hammon de Saint-Sauveur, son of Roger de Saint-Sauveur vicomte du Cotentin.2
     GAV-29 EDV-28 GKJ-30.

Maud de Valoignes1

F, #22976, b. 1138
FatherTheobald de Valoignes1,2 b. 1104
ReferenceGAV24 EDV24
Last Edited27 Jan 2008
     Maud de Valoignes married Hervey Walter, son of Hervey (?).3,2 Maud de Valoignes was born in 1138.1
     GAV-24 EDV-24 GKJ-25. Maud de Valoignes was also known as Maud de Valoines.

Family

Hervey Walter
Children

Citations

  1. [S1217] e-mail address, online http://worldconnect.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/igm.cgi?db=:1590432, Sue Cary (unknown location), downloaded updated 25 Aug 2001.
  2. [S2211] Emmett L. Butler, "Butler email 6 Jan 2008: "Botelers of Ireland: the First Generations, Part I"," e-mail message from e-mail address (unknown address) to e-mail address, 6 Jan 2008. Hereinafter cited as "Butler email 6 Jan 2008."
  3. [S812] e-mail address, online http://worldconnect.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/igm.cgi?db=bferris, Jr. William R. Ferris (unknown location), downloaded updated 4 Apr 2002, http://worldconnect.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/igm.cgi?op=GET&db=bferris&id=I11978
  4. [S812] e-mail address, updated 4 Apr 2002, http://worldconnect.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/igm.cgi?op=GET&db=bferris&id=I11980

Philip de Valognes of Panmure and Bervie, co. Forfar1

M, #22978, d. 5 November 1215
FatherRoger de Valognes of Bennington, co. Herts1,2 d. c 1142
MotherAgnes fitz John1 d. a 1184
Last Edited17 Jul 2020
     Philip de Valognes of Panmure and Bervie, co. Forfar died on 5 November 1215.1
     ; Philip de Valoins - Death:     5 Nov 1215, of Panmure and Bervie, co. Forfar
relocated to Scotland 1165 or before (Sanders, pp. 12-13)[1]
chamberlain to the King of Scots
'Philippo de Valoniis camerario' , witness to confirmation by King William I to Adam, son of Odo the steward, the grant made to Odo by Gilchrist, the abbot, and the convent of the culdees of St. Andrews, Forfar (c. 1194).
Wilielmus dei gratia Rex Scotorum, Episcopis, Abbatibus, Comitibus, Baronibus, justiciis, vicecomitibus, ministris et omnibus probis hominibus totius terre sue, clericis et laicis, salutem. Sciant presentes et futuri me concessisse et hac carta mea confirmasse Ade filio Odonis Senescaldi donationem illam quam Gilchrist' abbas et conventus kyldeorum de Sancto Andrea [fecerunt],1 predicto2 Odoni dapifero nostro3 de Kynkel et Petsprochyn et Petkynninn. Tenendum sibi et heredibus suis de predictis kyldeis et ecclesia eorum, per rectas divisas suas et cum omnibus ad predictas terras juste pertinentibus, in feodo et hereditate, ita libere et quiete, plenarie et honorifice, sicut carta prefati abbatis et conventus kyldeorum testatur, salvo servitio meo. Testibus, Comite Duncano justicia, Ricardo de prebenda clerico meo, Philippo de Valoniis camerario ' [8]

Sources:

1. I. J. Sanders, "English Baronies: A Study of Their Origin and Descent, 1086-1327," Oxford: Clarendon Press, 1960.
8. D.A.Bullough and R.L.Storey, eds., "The Study of Medieval Record, Essays in honour of Kathleen Major," 'The Early Charters of the Family of Kinninmonth of that Ilk', by G. W. S. Barrow, http://sadko.ncl.ac.uk/~ndjk/Personal/Scotland/Origins/Charters.htm p. 6 = King William I confirms to Adam, son of Odo the steward, the grant made to Odo by Gilchrist, the abbot, and the convent of the culdees of St. Andrews, as in No. 2. Forfar (c. 1194).1


; Sources cited by Ravillious in his 23 May 2004 email:
1. I. J. Sanders, "English Baronies: A Study of Their Origin and Descent, 1086-1327," Oxford: Clarendon Press, 1960.
2. "Primary Sources: English Manorial Documents," E. P. Cheyney, Jr., http://www.shsu.edu/~his_ncp/Manor.html from "English Manorial Documents," Translations and Reprints from the original Sources of European History, E. P. Cheyney, tr., vol. 3, no. 5, (Philadelphia: University of Pennsylvania, 1907), pp. 3-32, includes extracts from Domesday Book (Valoins).
3. Katherine S. B. Keats-Rohan, "Domesday People," The Boydell Press, 1999, Vol. I: A Prosopography of Persons Occurring in English Documents 1066-1166, cites Robert de Torigni, Interpolations to Gesta Normannorum Ducum of Guillaume of Jumieges, (ed. van Houts, ii, 270) and identification of Gilbert fitzRichard as uncle of Meen, seigneur de Fougeres (Rouleau Mortuaire du B. Vital abbe de Savigni, edition phototypique par L. Delisle Paris (1909), titre no. 182).
4. Rosie Bevan, "Re: Essex/Valognes/Fitz John," Apr 24, 2003, GEN-MEDIEVAL-L@rootsweb.com, cites Domesday Descendants, 450 and 686 (re: Hamo de St. Clare).
5. G. E. Cokayne, "The Complete Peerage," The Complete Peerage of England Scotland Ireland Great Britain and the United Kingdom.
6. Chris Phillips, "Re: Richard de Curcy of Newenham, Oxon - Same as Nuneham Courtenay?," Jul 28, 2003, GEN-MEDIEVAL-L@rootsweb.com, cites VCH Oxfordshire vol. 5, pp. 237-240 re: Curci family and manor of Newenham.
7. Douglas Richardson, "FitzWalter," September 8, 2002, paper copy: library of John Ravilious, text, line of descent from Ida Longespee, daughter of William Longespee, Knt. [or his father William, Earl of Salisbury] and her husband Walter fitz Robert, of Woodham Walter, Essex & c. (d. before 10 Apr 1258).
8. D.A.Bullough and R.L.Storey, eds., "The Study of Medieval Record, Essays in honour of Kathleen Major," 'The Early Charters of the Family of Kinninmonth of that Ilk', by G. W. S. Barrow, http://sadko.ncl.ac.uk/~ndjk/Personal/Scotland/Origins/Charters.htm p. 6 = King William I confirms to Adam, son of Odo the steward, the grant made to Odo by Gilchrist, the abbot, and the convent of the culdees of St. Andrews, as in No. 2. Forfar (c. 1194).
9. Rosie Bevan, "Re: Essex/Valognes/Fitz John," Apr 18, 2003, GEN-MEDIEVAL-L@rootsweb.com, cites Sanders 120, 139 and Red Book of the Exchequer, p.748 re: Agnes fitz John and the Valoins family, as well as PRO E 40/3699 and PRO E 40/3958 concerning Gunnora de Essex, 'neptis' of Agnes fitz John.
10. Stewart Baldwin, "Oldest Female Line?," Nov 20, 1996, GEN-MEDIEVAL-L@rootsweb.com.
11. Frederick L. Weis, Th. D., "The Magna Carta Sureties, 1215," Baltimore: Gen Pub Co., 5th ed., 1997 (W. L. Sheppard Jr & David Faris).
12. Rosie Bevan and Cris Nash, "Re: Essex/Valognes/Fitz John," Apr 23, 2003 (and previous), GEN-MEDIEVAL-L@rootsweb.com, cite Complete Peerage, vol.10, p.206; Sanders p.120, 139;, Domesday Descendants, p.449-451, and prior contributions, by Chris Phillips on 15 March 2001.
13. Rosie Bevan, "Re: Essex/Valognes/Fitz John," 17 May 2004, cites evidence in EYC XI p. 186, EYV II no. 1110, 1186 Rotuli Dominabus (p. 80), and others.1 Philip de Valognes of Panmure and Bervie, co. Forfar was also known as Philip de Valoins of Panmure and Bervie, co. Forfar.1 He was chamberlain to the King of Scots after 1165.1

Citations

  1. [S1639] John P. Ravilious, "Ravilious email 23 May 2004: "Re: Peter de Valognes/Peter de Valence/Piers de Valoins"," e-mail message from e-mail address (https://groups.google.com/g/soc.genealogy.medieval/c/v8KdQqA2zSY/m/uz35oFhwDgwJ) to e-mail address, 23 May 2004. Hereinafter cited as "Ravilious email 23 May 2004."
  2. [S1490] Genealogics Website (oiginated by Leo van de Pas, continued by Ian Fettes), online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Roger de Valoins, of Benington: http://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00437136&tree=LEO. Hereinafter cited as Genealogics Website.
  3. [S2202] John P. Ravilious, "Ravilious email 20 Nov 2007: "Sibyl, daughter of Philip de Valoines"," e-mail message from e-mail address (unknown address) to e-mail address, 20 Nov 2007, Something rang a distant bell this evening while reading the Registrum de Panmure, and I noted in the archives your query of old as to Sibyl/Sibilla de Valoines, wife of Robert de Stuteville. Leaving the other problematic Sibyls in the cave for the moment, this kinswoman can now be identified as the daughter (not sister) of Philip de Valoines, chamberlain of Scotland (d. 1215). From the Bodleian library we have the following charter:

    ' Charta Philippi de Valonijs, Rob. de Stutevill.

    UNIVERSIS sancte matris ecclesie filijs, Philippus de Valonijs, salutem. Sciant presentes et futuri me dedisse et concessisse et carta mea confirmasse Roberto de Stutevill, et Sibille filie mee, et heredibus quos predictus Robertus de Stutevill habebit de predicta Sibilla sponsa sua, villam de Torpenhon, in maritagium, per rectas divisas suas, et cum
    omnibus justis pertinentijs suis, et in ecclesia et in molendino et in omnibus aliis justis pertinentiis suis illis et predictis heredibus, quos habebit de predicta Sibilla sponsa sua, Tenendam de me et heredibus meis, ita libere, quiete, plenarie, integre, et honorifice, sicut predictam terram melius, plenius et quietius tenui die quo predictam Sibillam filiam meam duxit in uxorem. Hijs testibus, Radulfo abbate de Jeddewrth, Roberto archidiacono Glascuiensi, Willielmo Giffart, Roberto de Landeles, Roberto de Sancto Michaele, Bernardo de Hawedane, Johanne de Wiltune, Simone de Hawic, Alano de Ruele, Hugone de Ruwerfort, Gilleberto de Maltalent, Radulfo de Alneto, Anketino filio Durandi, Radulpho de la Ferte, Willielmo de Solum.' [1]

    If the other Sibyl de Valoines (wife of Robert de Ros, et al.) is of the same immediate family, she must have been a sister of Philip et al. Of course, she could be a cousin. The other (?) issue of note, it appears that Torpenhow, Cumbs. was the property of Sibyl/Sibilla, wife of Philip de Valoines. This may assist in identifying her family (unfortunately the VCH for Cumberland isn't there yet).. Hereinafter cited as "Ravilious email 20 Nov 2007."

Roger de Valognes of Bennington, co. Herts1,2

M, #22979, d. circa 1142
FatherPiers/Peter de Valognes of Benington, co. Herts.1,3,2 d. c 1109
MotherAlbreda de Saint-Sauveur4,2
ReferenceGAV25
Last Edited23 Nov 2012
     Roger de Valognes of Bennington, co. Herts married Agnes fitz John, daughter of John fitz Richard.1
Roger de Valognes of Bennington, co. Herts died circa 1142.1
     ; van de Pas cites: English Baronies: A Study of Their Origin and Descent, 1086-1327 Oxford, Clarendon Press, 1960, Sanders, I. J., Reference: 12.2

; Sources cited by Ravillious in his 23 May 2004 email:
1. I. J. Sanders, "English Baronies: A Study of Their Origin and Descent, 1086-1327," Oxford: Clarendon Press, 1960.
2. "Primary Sources: English Manorial Documents," E. P. Cheyney, Jr., http://www.shsu.edu/~his_ncp/Manor.html from "English Manorial Documents," Translations and Reprints from the original Sources of European History, E. P. Cheyney, tr., vol. 3, no. 5, (Philadelphia: University of Pennsylvania, 1907), pp. 3-32, includes extracts from Domesday Book (Valoins).
3. Katherine S. B. Keats-Rohan, "Domesday People," The Boydell Press, 1999, Vol. I: A Prosopography of Persons Occurring in English Documents 1066-1166, cites Robert de Torigni, Interpolations to Gesta Normannorum Ducum of Guillaume of Jumieges, (ed. van Houts, ii, 270) and identification of Gilbert fitzRichard as uncle of Meen, seigneur de Fougeres (Rouleau Mortuaire du B. Vital abbe de Savigni, edition phototypique par L. Delisle Paris (1909), titre no. 182).
4. Rosie Bevan, "Re: Essex/Valognes/Fitz John," Apr 24, 2003, GEN-MEDIEVAL-L@rootsweb.com, cites Domesday Descendants, 450 and 686 (re: Hamo de St. Clare).
5. G. E. Cokayne, "The Complete Peerage," The Complete Peerage of England Scotland Ireland Great Britain and the United Kingdom.
6. Chris Phillips, "Re: Richard de Curcy of Newenham, Oxon - Same as Nuneham Courtenay?," Jul 28, 2003, GEN-MEDIEVAL-L@rootsweb.com, cites VCH Oxfordshire vol. 5, pp. 237-240 re: Curci family and manor of Newenham.
7. Douglas Richardson, "FitzWalter," September 8, 2002, paper copy: library of John Ravilious, text, line of descent from Ida Longespee, daughter of William Longespee, Knt. [or his father William, Earl of Salisbury] and her husband Walter fitz Robert, of Woodham Walter, Essex & c. (d. before 10 Apr 1258).
8. D.A.Bullough and R.L.Storey, eds., "The Study of Medieval Record, Essays in honour of Kathleen Major," 'The Early Charters of the Family of Kinninmonth of that Ilk', by G. W. S. Barrow, http://sadko.ncl.ac.uk/~ndjk/Personal/Scotland/Origins/Charters.htm p. 6 = King William I confirms to Adam, son of Odo the steward, the grant made to Odo by Gilchrist, the abbot, and the convent of the culdees of St. Andrews, as in No. 2. Forfar (c. 1194).
9. Rosie Bevan, "Re: Essex/Valognes/Fitz John," Apr 18, 2003, GEN-MEDIEVAL-L@rootsweb.com, cites Sanders 120, 139 and Red Book of the Exchequer, p.748 re: Agnes fitz John and the Valoins family, as well as PRO E 40/3699 and PRO E 40/3958 concerning Gunnora de Essex, 'neptis' of Agnes fitz John.
10. Stewart Baldwin, "Oldest Female Line?," Nov 20, 1996, GEN-MEDIEVAL-L@rootsweb.com.
11. Frederick L. Weis, Th. D., "The Magna Carta Sureties, 1215," Baltimore: Gen Pub Co., 5th ed., 1997 (W. L. Sheppard Jr & David Faris).
12. Rosie Bevan and Cris Nash, "Re: Essex/Valognes/Fitz John," Apr 23, 2003 (and previous), GEN-MEDIEVAL-L@rootsweb.com, cite Complete Peerage, vol.10, p.206; Sanders p.120, 139;, Domesday Descendants, p.449-451, and prior contributions, by Chris Phillips on 15 March 2001.
13. Rosie Bevan, "Re: Essex/Valognes/Fitz John," 17 May 2004, cites evidence in EYC XI p. 186, EYV II no. 1110, 1186 Rotuli Dominabus (p. 80), and others.1

; Roger de Valoins - Death: ca 1142[1], of Bennington, co. Herts.
re: his wife:
'Agnes, wife of Roger de Valognes' [DP 284, sub Johannes nepos Waleranni[3] ]

Spouse:     Agnes fitz John
Death:     aft 1184[4],[5]
Father:     John fitz Richard

Children:     Peter (-1158)
               Robert (-1184)
               Philip (-1215)
               Cecily
               Roger
               John
               Geoffrey
Sources:
1. I. J. Sanders, "English Baronies: A Study of Their Origin and Descent, 1086-1327," Oxford: Clarendon Press, 1960.
3. Katherine S. B. Keats-Rohan, "Domesday People," The Boydell Press, 1999, Vol. I: A Prosopography of Persons Occurring in English Documents 1066-1166, cites Robert de Torigni, Interpolations to Gesta Normannorum Ducum of Guillaume of Jumieges, (ed. van Houts, ii, 270) and identification of Gilbert fitzRichard as uncle of Meen, seigneur de Fougeres (Rouleau Mortuaire du B. Vital abbe de Savigni, edition phototypique par L. Delisle Paris (1909), titre no. 182).
4. Rosie Bevan, "Re: Essex/Valognes/Fitz John," Apr 24, 2003, GEN-MEDIEVAL-L@rootsweb.com, cites Domesday Descendants, 450 and 686 (re: Hamo de St. Clare).
5. G. E. Cokayne, "The Complete Peerage," The Complete Peerage of England Scotland Ireland Great Britain and the United Kingdom.1 GAV-25.

Citations

  1. [S1639] John P. Ravilious, "Ravilious email 23 May 2004: "Re: Peter de Valognes/Peter de Valence/Piers de Valoins"," e-mail message from e-mail address (https://groups.google.com/g/soc.genealogy.medieval/c/v8KdQqA2zSY/m/uz35oFhwDgwJ) to e-mail address, 23 May 2004. Hereinafter cited as "Ravilious email 23 May 2004."
  2. [S1490] Genealogics Website (oiginated by Leo van de Pas, continued by Ian Fettes), online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Roger de Valoins, of Benington: http://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00437136&tree=LEO. Hereinafter cited as Genealogics Website.
  3. [S1490] Genealogics Website, online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Piers de Valoins, of Benington: http://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00437134&tree=LEO
  4. [S1490] Genealogics Website, online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Albreda de Saint-Sauveur: http://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00437135&tree=LEO

Agnes fitz John1

F, #22980, d. after 1184
FatherJohn fitz Richard1
ReferenceGAV27
Last Edited23 Nov 2012
     Agnes fitz John married Roger de Valognes of Bennington, co. Herts, son of Piers/Peter de Valognes of Benington, co. Herts. and Albreda de Saint-Sauveur.1
Agnes fitz John died after 1184.1
     ; Sources cited by Ravillious in his 23 May 2004 email:
1. I. J. Sanders, "English Baronies: A Study of Their Origin and Descent, 1086-1327," Oxford: Clarendon Press, 1960.
2. "Primary Sources: English Manorial Documents," E. P. Cheyney, Jr., http://www.shsu.edu/~his_ncp/Manor.html from "English Manorial Documents," Translations and Reprints from the original Sources of European History, E. P. Cheyney, tr., vol. 3, no. 5, (Philadelphia: University of Pennsylvania, 1907), pp. 3-32, includes extracts from Domesday Book (Valoins).
3. Katherine S. B. Keats-Rohan, "Domesday People," The Boydell Press, 1999, Vol. I: A Prosopography of Persons Occurring in English Documents 1066-1166, cites Robert de Torigni, Interpolations to Gesta Normannorum Ducum of Guillaume of Jumieges, (ed. van Houts, ii, 270) and identification of Gilbert fitzRichard as uncle of Meen, seigneur de Fougeres (Rouleau Mortuaire du B. Vital abbe de Savigni, edition phototypique par L. Delisle Paris (1909), titre no. 182).
4. Rosie Bevan, "Re: Essex/Valognes/Fitz John," Apr 24, 2003, GEN-MEDIEVAL-L@rootsweb.com, cites Domesday Descendants, 450 and 686 (re: Hamo de St. Clare).
5. G. E. Cokayne, "The Complete Peerage," The Complete Peerage of England Scotland Ireland Great Britain and the United Kingdom.
6. Chris Phillips, "Re: Richard de Curcy of Newenham, Oxon - Same as Nuneham Courtenay?," Jul 28, 2003, GEN-MEDIEVAL-L@rootsweb.com, cites VCH Oxfordshire vol. 5, pp. 237-240 re: Curci family and manor of Newenham.
7. Douglas Richardson, "FitzWalter," September 8, 2002, paper copy: library of John Ravilious, text, line of descent from Ida Longespee, daughter of William Longespee, Knt. [or his father William, Earl of Salisbury] and her husband Walter fitz Robert, of Woodham Walter, Essex & c. (d. before 10 Apr 1258).
8. D.A.Bullough and R.L.Storey, eds., "The Study of Medieval Record, Essays in honour of Kathleen Major," 'The Early Charters of the Family of Kinninmonth of that Ilk', by G. W. S. Barrow, http://sadko.ncl.ac.uk/~ndjk/Personal/Scotland/Origins/Charters.htm p. 6 = King William I confirms to Adam, son of Odo the steward, the grant made to Odo by Gilchrist, the abbot, and the convent of the culdees of St. Andrews, as in No. 2. Forfar (c. 1194).
9. Rosie Bevan, "Re: Essex/Valognes/Fitz John," Apr 18, 2003, GEN-MEDIEVAL-L@rootsweb.com, cites Sanders 120, 139 and Red Book of the Exchequer, p.748 re: Agnes fitz John and the Valoins family, as well as PRO E 40/3699 and PRO E 40/3958 concerning Gunnora de Essex, 'neptis' of Agnes fitz John.
10. Stewart Baldwin, "Oldest Female Line?," Nov 20, 1996, GEN-MEDIEVAL-L@rootsweb.com.
11. Frederick L. Weis, Th. D., "The Magna Carta Sureties, 1215," Baltimore: Gen Pub Co., 5th ed., 1997 (W. L. Sheppard Jr & David Faris).
12. Rosie Bevan and Cris Nash, "Re: Essex/Valognes/Fitz John," Apr 23, 2003 (and previous), GEN-MEDIEVAL-L@rootsweb.com, cite Complete Peerage, vol.10, p.206; Sanders p.120, 139;, Domesday Descendants, p.449-451, and prior contributions, by Chris Phillips on 15 March 2001.
13. Rosie Bevan, "Re: Essex/Valognes/Fitz John," 17 May 2004, cites evidence in EYC XI p. 186, EYV II no. 1110, 1186 Rotuli Dominabus (p. 80), and others.1 GAV-27.

Citations

  1. [S1639] John P. Ravilious, "Ravilious email 23 May 2004: "Re: Peter de Valognes/Peter de Valence/Piers de Valoins"," e-mail message from e-mail address (https://groups.google.com/g/soc.genealogy.medieval/c/v8KdQqA2zSY/m/uz35oFhwDgwJ) to e-mail address, 23 May 2004. Hereinafter cited as "Ravilious email 23 May 2004."