Margery d'Oilly1,2

F, #15572
FatherHenry de Oilly3,2
MotherMaud de Bohun3 d. a 1201
Last Edited1 Feb 2009
     Margery d'Oilly married Henry de Newburgh 5th Earl of Warwick, son of Waleran de Newburgh 4th Earl of Warwick and Margery de Bohun, after 1205.1,3,4,5

      ; van de Pas cites: The Complete Peerage, 1936 , Doubleday, H.A. & Lord Howard de Walden, Reference: XII/2 364.4 Margery d'Oilly was also known as Margery de Oilly.4

Citations

  1. [S757] Compiled by Carl Boyer 3rd, Medieval English Ancestors of Certain Americans: Many of the English Ancestral Lines Prior to 1300 of those Colonial Americans with known Royal Ancestry but Fully Developed in all Possible Lines (PO Box 220333, Santa Clarita, CA 91322-0333: Carl Boyer 3rd, 2001), pp. 180-181, de NEWBURGH 3:i. Hereinafter cited as Boyer [2001] Med English Ancestors.
  2. [S2261] Douglas Richardson, Plantagenet Ancestry: A Study in Colonial and Medieval Families, 1st edition (n.p.: Genealogical Publishing Company, Inc., 2004), Longespee 3.v: p. 459. Hereinafter cited as Richardson PA.
  3. [S1438] Miroslav Marek, online http://genealogy.euweb.cz/index.html, unknown author (e-mail address), downloaded updated 15 May 2003, Beaumont 5 page (The Sires de Beaumont-le-Roger): http://genealogy.euweb.cz/beaumont/beaumont5.html
  4. [S1490] Genealogics Website (oiginated by Leo van de Pas, continued by Ian Fettes), online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Margery de Oilly: http://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00394342&tree=LEO. Hereinafter cited as Genealogics Website.
  5. [S1490] Genealogics Website, online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Henry de Newburgh: http://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00394341&tree=LEO
  6. [S1396] Burke's Peerage & Gentry Web Site, online http://www.burkes-peerage.net/sites/peerageandgentry/sitepages/home.asp, Warwick, Brooke Family Page. Hereinafter cited as Burke's Peerage & Gentry Web Site.
  7. [S1490] Genealogics Website, online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Margery de Newburgh: http://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00397890&tree=LEO

Esperleng (Asperling, L’ «Eperlan») (?) de Pîtres1,2

M, #15573, b. circa 890, d. after 935
ReferenceGAV29 EDV30
Last Edited27 Aug 2020
     Esperleng (Asperling, L’ «Eperlan») (?) de Pîtres was born circa 890.2
Esperleng (Asperling, L’ «Eperlan») (?) de Pîtres died after 935.2 He married AdelaSprote (?) de Bretagne, daughter of Hubert (?) Count of Senlis, before 936
;
Her 2nd husband.1,2,3,4,5,6
     ; per Racines et Histoire (Comtes de Bayeux, p. 2): "Sprota dite «de Senlis» probablement bretonne d’origine est devenue la concubine de Guillaume «Longue-Epée» à la suite d’une expédition de celui-ci en Bretagne (932); elle est la mère de Richard 1er ° 934 (Fécamp). Elle ép. 2) Asperleng, riche meunier des moulins de la Risle selon les chroniqueurs et possédant des biens au Vaudreuil et à Pîtres, d’où est issu Raoul, investi du comté d’Ivry et de biens à Bayeux par son demi-frère le duc. Osbern de Crépon, sénéchal du duc, est fils d’Herfast, frère de la duchesse Gonnor (épouse de Richard 1er) ; Herfast s’est fait moine à Saint-Père de Chartres (entre 1022 et 1026.)7" Esperleng (Asperling, L’ «Eperlan») (?) de Pîtres was also known as Asperlin de Vaudrevil.8 GAV-29 EDV-30 GKJ-29.

Reference: Genealogics cites: Europäische Stammtafeln, J.A. Stargardt Verlag, Marburg, Schwennicke, Detlev (Ed.) 3/4:694A.4 Esperleng (Asperling, L’ «Eperlan») (?) de Pîtres was also known as Esperleng (?) de Vaudreuil.5 Esperleng (Asperling, L’ «Eperlan») (?) de Pîtres was also known as Asperlang (?)4 Esperleng (Asperling, L’ «Eperlan») (?) de Pîtres was also known as Asperleng (?) de Vaudreuil de Pitres.7

Citations

  1. [S757] Compiled by Carl Boyer 3rd, Medieval English Ancestors of Certain Americans: Many of the English Ancestral Lines Prior to 1300 of those Colonial Americans with known Royal Ancestry but Fully Developed in all Possible Lines (PO Box 220333, Santa Clarita, CA 91322-0333: Carl Boyer 3rd, 2001), p. 181, NORMANDY 2. Hereinafter cited as Boyer [2001] Med English Ancestors.
  2. [S2280] Racines et Histoire, online http://racineshistoire.free.fr/LGN/LGN-frameset.html, http://racineshistoire.free.fr/LGN/PDF/Bayeux-Ivry.pdf, p. 2. Hereinafter cited as Racines et Histoire.
  3. [S1490] Genealogics Website (oiginated by Leo van de Pas, continued by Ian Fettes), online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Sprota: https://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00020059&tree=LEO. Hereinafter cited as Genealogics Website.
  4. [S1490] Genealogics Website, online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Asperlang: https://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00426912&tree=LEO
  5. [S1953] Wikipedia: The Free Encyclopedia, online http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Main_Page, https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sprota. Hereinafter cited as Wikipedia.
  6. [S1702] The Henry Project: The ancestors of king Henry II of England, An experiment in cooperative medieval genealogy on the internet (now hosted by the American Society of Genealogists, ASG), online https://fasg.org/projects/henryproject/, "Sprota": https://fasg.org/projects/henryproject/data/sprot000.htm. Hereinafter cited as The Henry Project.
  7. [S2280] Racines et Histoire, online http://racineshistoire.free.fr/LGN/LGN-frameset.html, Comtes & Vicomtes de Bayeux, & Seigneurs de Bréval & d’Ivry, p. 2: http://racineshistoire.free.fr/LGN/PDF/Bayeux-Ivry.pdf
  8. [S812] e-mail address, online http://worldconnect.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/igm.cgi?db=bferris, Jr. William R. Ferris (unknown location), downloaded updated 4 Apr 2002, http://worldconnect.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/igm.cgi?op=GET&db=bferris&id=I30663

Gilbert III Crespin seigneur de Tillières, Damville et Bourth1

M, #15574, d. after 1130
FatherGilbert II Crespin seigneur de Tillières1 d. 1109
MotherHersende (?)1 d. a 1109
Last Edited12 Feb 2010
     Gilbert III Crespin seigneur de Tillières, Damville et Bourth married Laurence (?)1

Gilbert III Crespin seigneur de Tillières, Damville et Bourth died after 1130.1

Sainsfrida (Senfrie) de Crépon1,2

F, #15575
FatherHerbastus (?)1 b. c 911, d. 1002
ReferenceGAV27
Last Edited8 Mar 2020
     Sainsfrida (Senfrie) de Crépon married "the Forester" (?)1,2

      ; Per Med Lands: "SAINSFRIDA [Senfrie] . Guillaume de Jumièges records that "in domo forestarii...hospiti suo...uxorem suam Sainfriam" rejected the advances of Richard I Comte [de Normandie] and sent “Gunnorem sororem suam” to his bed in her place[386]. She and her three sisters, as well as their husbands, are named by Robert de Torigny[387]. The Chronicle of Alberic de Trois-Fontaines names "Seufriam" as sister of "Gunnor uxor…Richardi Normannis ducem"[388]. m ---. The name of Sainsfrida's husband is not known."
Med Lands cites:
[386] Willelmi Gemmetencis Historiæ (Duchesne, 1619), Liber VIII, XXXVI, p. 311.
[387] Robert de Torigny, Book VIII, c. 37.
[388] Chronica Albrici Monachi Trium Fontium 1116, MGH SS XXIII, p. 821.3
GAV-27 EDV-28 GKJ-28.

Citations

  1. [S757] Compiled by Carl Boyer 3rd, Medieval English Ancestors of Certain Americans: Many of the English Ancestral Lines Prior to 1300 of those Colonial Americans with known Royal Ancestry but Fully Developed in all Possible Lines (PO Box 220333, Santa Clarita, CA 91322-0333: Carl Boyer 3rd, 2001), pp. 181-182, NORMANDY 3. Hereinafter cited as Boyer [2001] Med English Ancestors.
  2. [S2280] Racines et Histoire, online http://racineshistoire.free.fr/LGN/LGN-frameset.html, http://racineshistoire.free.fr/LGN/PDF/Crépon.pdf, p. 2. Hereinafter cited as Racines et Histoire.
  3. [S2203] Foundation for Medieval Genealogy (FMG): MEDIEVAL LANDS - A prosopography of medieval European noble and royal families, online http://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/index.htm, http://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/normacre.htm#JoscelineMRogerIMontgommery. Hereinafter cited as FMG Medieval Lands Website.

"the Forester" (?)1

M, #15576
ReferenceGAV27 EDV27
Last Edited16 Nov 2019
     "the Forester" (?) married Sainsfrida (Senfrie) de Crépon, daughter of Herbastus (?).1,2

      ; per Racines et Histoire: "forestier
de Saint-Vaast d’Equiqueville."2 GAV-27 EDV-27 GKJ-28.

Citations

  1. [S757] Compiled by Carl Boyer 3rd, Medieval English Ancestors of Certain Americans: Many of the English Ancestral Lines Prior to 1300 of those Colonial Americans with known Royal Ancestry but Fully Developed in all Possible Lines (PO Box 220333, Santa Clarita, CA 91322-0333: Carl Boyer 3rd, 2001), pp. 181-182, NORMANDY 3. Hereinafter cited as Boyer [2001] Med English Ancestors.
  2. [S2280] Racines et Histoire, online http://racineshistoire.free.fr/LGN/LGN-frameset.html, http://racineshistoire.free.fr/LGN/PDF/Crépon.pdf, p. 2. Hereinafter cited as Racines et Histoire.

(?) de Crepon1

F, #15577
FatherHerbastus (?)1 b. c 911, d. 1002
ReferenceGAV27 EDV26
Last Edited21 Jan 2003
     GAV-27 EDV-26 GKJ-27.

Family

Child

Citations

  1. [S757] Compiled by Carl Boyer 3rd, Medieval English Ancestors of Certain Americans: Many of the English Ancestral Lines Prior to 1300 of those Colonial Americans with known Royal Ancestry but Fully Developed in all Possible Lines (PO Box 220333, Santa Clarita, CA 91322-0333: Carl Boyer 3rd, 2001), pp. 181-182, NORMANDY 3. Hereinafter cited as Boyer [2001] Med English Ancestors.

Emma (ou Alberade, Aubrée) (?) d'Ivry1,2,3,4

F, #15578
FatherRaoul (?) d'Ivry, comte de Bayeux et châtelain d’Ivry1,3,4 b. c 945, d. c 1015
MotherAuberée (Alberède) de Caux3 b. c 960, d. b 1011
ReferenceGAV27 EDV28
Last Edited10 Feb 2010
     Emma (ou Alberade, Aubrée) (?) d'Ivry married Osbern de Crépon Steward of Normandy, son of Herfast (Arfastus) de Crépon, circa 1000.1,3

     Emma (ou Alberade, Aubrée) (?) d'Ivry was 1ère abbesse de Saint-Amand de Rouen.3 GAV-27 EDV-28.

Citations

  1. [S757] Compiled by Carl Boyer 3rd, Medieval English Ancestors of Certain Americans: Many of the English Ancestral Lines Prior to 1300 of those Colonial Americans with known Royal Ancestry but Fully Developed in all Possible Lines (PO Box 220333, Santa Clarita, CA 91322-0333: Carl Boyer 3rd, 2001), pp. 181-182, NORMANDY 3. Hereinafter cited as Boyer [2001] Med English Ancestors.
  2. [S757] Compiled by Carl Boyer 3rd, Boyer [2001] Med English Ancestors, pp. 240-241, de TOENI 4:viii.
  3. [S2280] Racines et Histoire, online http://racineshistoire.free.fr/LGN/LGN-frameset.html, http://racineshistoire.free.fr/LGN/PDF/Bayeux-Ivry.pdf, p. 2. Hereinafter cited as Racines et Histoire.
  4. [S2280] Racines et Histoire, online http://racineshistoire.free.fr/LGN/LGN-frameset.html, http://racineshistoire.free.fr/LGN/PDF/Crépon.pdf, p. 2.
  5. [S2280] Racines et Histoire, online http://racineshistoire.free.fr/LGN/LGN-frameset.html, http://racineshistoire.free.fr/LGN/PDF/Bayeux-Ivry.pdf, p. 4.

Raoul (?) d'Ivry, comte de Bayeux et châtelain d’Ivry1,2

M, #15579, b. circa 945, d. circa 1015
FatherEsperleng (Asperling, L’ «Eperlan») (?) de Pîtres2,3 b. c 890, d. a 935
MotherAdelaSprote (?) de Bretagne2,4 b. c 911, d. c 945
ReferenceGAV28 EDV29
Last Edited27 Aug 2020
     Raoul (?) d'Ivry, comte de Bayeux et châtelain d’Ivry was born circa 945.5,6 He married Auberée (Alberède) de Caux, daughter of Canville de Caux,
; his 1st wife.2,6 Raoul (?) d'Ivry, comte de Bayeux et châtelain d’Ivry married Eramberge (Eramburge, Erneburge) (?)
; his 2nd wife.2
Raoul (?) d'Ivry, comte de Bayeux et châtelain d’Ivry died circa 1015; Genealogics says d. ca 1015; Racines et Histoire says d. aft 1011.2,6
     GAV-28 EDV-29.

Reference: Genealogics cites: Europäische Stammtafeln, J.A. Stargardt Verlag, Marburg, Schwennicke, Detlev (Ed.) 3/4:694A.6

; Per Genealogics:
     "Raoul was a Norman noble, and regent of Normandy during the minority of Duke Richard II 'the Good'. He was the son of Asperlang, a rich owner of several mills at Vaudreuil, and of his wife Sprota, who by Guillaume I 'Longsword', duke of Normandy, had been the mother of Richard I of Normandy, making Raoul the duke's half-brother. When Richard died in 996, Raoul took effective power during the minority of his nephew, Richard II of Normandy, alongside the boy's mother Gunnor.
     "According to the chronicler Guillaume de Jumièges, Raoul had to quell dual rebellions in 996, by the peasants and nobility; against the former he cut off feet and hands. He arrested the chief aristocratic rebel Guillaume, comte d'Exmes.
     "The counts of the duchy of Normandy were in place from around the year 1000; Raoul is the first whose title can be attested by a document (dated 1011). Contemporary sources, and Dudon de Saint-Quentin, speak only of Raoul as 'count', never of 'Ivry'; this is found only in later writers. Ordericus Vitalis, for example, calls him count of Bayeux.
     "In strategic terms, Ivry was on the boundary of the duchy of Normandy, adjacent to an important crossroads on a Roman Road, in the valley of the River Eure. Over some decades the Normans had struggled there against the forces of the count of Blois, after his control had reached Dreux. This position mattered for the assertion over the domination of the south-east of the Évrecin.
     "With his wife Albereda de Canville, Raoul had about six children, of whom Emma would have progeny, marrying Osbern de Crépon, steward of Normandy. Hugues would become bishop of Bayeux.
     "Raoul died about 1015."6 Raoul (?) d'Ivry, comte de Bayeux et châtelain d’Ivry was also known as Raoul de Ivry.5

Citations

  1. [S757] Compiled by Carl Boyer 3rd, Medieval English Ancestors of Certain Americans: Many of the English Ancestral Lines Prior to 1300 of those Colonial Americans with known Royal Ancestry but Fully Developed in all Possible Lines (PO Box 220333, Santa Clarita, CA 91322-0333: Carl Boyer 3rd, 2001), pp. 181-182, NORMANDY 3. Hereinafter cited as Boyer [2001] Med English Ancestors.
  2. [S2280] Racines et Histoire, online http://racineshistoire.free.fr/LGN/LGN-frameset.html, http://racineshistoire.free.fr/LGN/PDF/Bayeux-Ivry.pdf, p. 2. Hereinafter cited as Racines et Histoire.
  3. [S1490] Genealogics Website (oiginated by Leo van de Pas, continued by Ian Fettes), online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Asperlang: https://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00426912&tree=LEO. Hereinafter cited as Genealogics Website.
  4. [S1702] The Henry Project: The ancestors of king Henry II of England, An experiment in cooperative medieval genealogy on the internet (now hosted by the American Society of Genealogists, ASG), online https://fasg.org/projects/henryproject/, "Sprota": https://fasg.org/projects/henryproject/data/sprot000.htm. Hereinafter cited as The Henry Project.
  5. [S812] e-mail address, online http://worldconnect.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/igm.cgi?db=bferris, Jr. William R. Ferris (unknown location), downloaded updated 4 Apr 2002, http://worldconnect.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/igm.cgi?op=GET&db=bferris&id=I30421
  6. [S1490] Genealogics Website, online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Raoul d'Ivry: https://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00426913&tree=LEO
  7. [S2280] Racines et Histoire, online http://racineshistoire.free.fr/LGN/LGN-frameset.html, http://racineshistoire.free.fr/LGN/PDF/Crépon.pdf, p. 2.
  8. [S2280] Racines et Histoire, online http://racineshistoire.free.fr/LGN/LGN-frameset.html, http://racineshistoire.free.fr/LGN/PDF/Bayeux-Ivry.pdf, p. 6.
  9. [S812] e-mail address, updated 4 Apr 2002, http://worldconnect.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/igm.cgi?op=GET&db=bferris&id=I30422

Herfast (Arfastus) de Crépon1,2

M, #15580
FatherHerbastus (?)1,2 b. c 911, d. 1002
ReferenceGAV28 EDV29
Last Edited10 Feb 2010
     GAV-28 EDV-29.

Citations

  1. [S757] Compiled by Carl Boyer 3rd, Medieval English Ancestors of Certain Americans: Many of the English Ancestral Lines Prior to 1300 of those Colonial Americans with known Royal Ancestry but Fully Developed in all Possible Lines (PO Box 220333, Santa Clarita, CA 91322-0333: Carl Boyer 3rd, 2001), pp. 181-182, NORMANDY 3. Hereinafter cited as Boyer [2001] Med English Ancestors.
  2. [S2280] Racines et Histoire, online http://racineshistoire.free.fr/LGN/LGN-frameset.html, http://racineshistoire.free.fr/LGN/PDF/Crépon.pdf, p. 2. Hereinafter cited as Racines et Histoire.
  3. [S2280] Racines et Histoire, online http://racineshistoire.free.fr/LGN/LGN-frameset.html, http://racineshistoire.free.fr/LGN/PDF/Bayeux-Ivry.pdf, p. 2.

Matilda (?) of Normandy1,2,3

F, #15581, d. circa 1005
FatherRichard I "The Fearless" (?) 3rd Duke of Normandy1,3 b. 28 Aug 933, d. 20 Nov 996
MotherEmma (?) Princess of France b. c 943, d. a 19 Mar 968; Boyer says her mother was Emma; Genealogy.EU says her mother was Gunnor, as does Racines et Histoire1,4,3
Last Edited23 May 2009

Citations

  1. [S757] Compiled by Carl Boyer 3rd, Medieval English Ancestors of Certain Americans: Many of the English Ancestral Lines Prior to 1300 of those Colonial Americans with known Royal Ancestry but Fully Developed in all Possible Lines (PO Box 220333, Santa Clarita, CA 91322-0333: Carl Boyer 3rd, 2001), pp. 181-182, NORMANDY 3:ii. Hereinafter cited as Boyer [2001] Med English Ancestors.
  2. [S1438] Miroslav Marek, online http://genealogy.euweb.cz/index.html, unknown author (e-mail address), downloaded updated 15 May 2003, Normandy page ("Normandy family"): http://genealogy.euweb.cz/normandy/normandy.html#MR1
  3. [S2280] Racines et Histoire, online http://racineshistoire.free.fr/LGN/LGN-frameset.html, http://racineshistoire.free.fr/LGN/PDF/Blois-Champagne.pdf, p. 3. Hereinafter cited as Racines et Histoire.
  4. [S1438] Miroslav Marek, updated 15 May 2003, Normandy page - Normandy Family: http://genealogy.euweb.cz/normandy/normandy.html
  5. [S757] Compiled by Carl Boyer 3rd, Boyer [2001] Med English Ancestors, pp. 181-182, NORMANDY 3:iii.

Agnes de Blois1,2

F, #15582
FatherEudes/Odo I de Blois Cte de Blois, Chartres, Châteaudun, Tours, Beauvais, Dreux, et de Meaux, Seigneur de Chinon et de Saumur1,3,2,4 b. c 953, d. bt 12 Mar 995 - 996
MotherBertha (?) des Deux-Bourgognes1,5,2 b. bt 964 - 965, d. a 1010
Last Edited19 Jun 2020
     Agnes de Blois married Guy de Thouars Vicomte de Thouars.1,2

     Agnes de Blois was living between 1001 and 1003.1,2

Family

Guy de Thouars Vicomte de Thouars

Citations

  1. [S1438] Miroslav Marek, online http://genealogy.euweb.cz/index.html, unknown author (e-mail address), downloaded updated 15 May 2003, Poitou 1 page ("The House of Poitou"): http://genealogy.euweb.cz/poitou/poitou1.html#G5
  2. [S2280] Racines et Histoire, online http://racineshistoire.free.fr/LGN/LGN-frameset.html, http://racineshistoire.free.fr/LGN/PDF/Blois-Champagne.pdf, p. 3. Hereinafter cited as Racines et Histoire.
  3. [S1490] Genealogics Website (oiginated by Leo van de Pas, continued by Ian Fettes), online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Eudes I: http://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00020131&tree=LEO. Hereinafter cited as Genealogics Website.
  4. [S2203] Foundation for Medieval Genealogy (FMG): MEDIEVAL LANDS - A prosopography of medieval European noble and royal families, online http://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/index.htm, https://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/CENTRAL%20FRANCE.htm#EudesIdied995. Hereinafter cited as FMG Medieval Lands Website.
  5. [S1490] Genealogics Website, online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Bertha de Bourgogne: http://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00020105&tree=LEO

Béatrix/Beatrice/Badia (?) de Normandie1,2

F, #15583, b. circa 980, d. 18 January 1035
FatherRichard I "The Fearless" (?) 3rd Duke of Normandy1,3,2,4,5 b. 28 Aug 933, d. 20 Nov 996
ReferenceGAV26 EDV26
Last Edited25 Jun 2020
     Béatrix/Beatrice/Badia (?) de Normandie was born circa 980.3,6 She married Ebles I de Turenne Vicomte de Turenne, Aquitaine, son of Archambaud "Camba-Putrida/Jambe-Pourrie" de Comborn Vicomte de Comborn, Ventadour et Turenne and Sulpicie de Turenne, before 1001
;
His 1st wife; Med Lands says m. bef 1001.1,7,8,9,10,11,5,6 Béatrix/Beatrice/Badia (?) de Normandie and Ebles I de Turenne Vicomte de Turenne, Aquitaine were divorced.11
Béatrix/Beatrice/Badia (?) de Normandie died on 18 January 1035.2,5
      ; Per The Henry Project (page for Richard 1): “...by unknown mistress...Béatrix, abbess of Montvilliers in 1035, earlier m. Ebles, viscount of Turenne
[From The Miracles of Sainte-Foy, with translated excerpts in van Houts (2000), 215-7]”.4 GAV-26 EDV-26 GKJ-28.

Reference: Genealogics cites:
1. Europäische Stammtafeln, J.A. Stargardt Verlag, Marburg, Schwennicke, Detlev (Ed.) 3:765.
2. Henry Project , Baldwin, Stewart.2


; Per Med Lands:
     "BEATRIX (-18 Jan 1035). Guillaume of Jumièges records that Richard had two daughters “ex concubinis”, but does not name them[147]. The Chronicon Gaufredi Vosiensis records that "sorore Richardi Normannorum Ducis" was the wife of "Archambaldus Chamba-Putrida" and mother of "Ebolum"[148], but this is difficult to sustain chronologically. The Miracles of Sainte-Foy attribute a miracle to "Lady Beatrice his [Lord Ebalus] wife…soon to lose him through divorce" involving her freeing pilgrims from captivity near Turenne[149]. The primary source which confirms her parentage and marriage more precisely has not yet been identified. She returned to Normandy after her divorce and was appointed Abbess of Montivilliers [1035][150].
     "m (before 1001, divorced) as his first wife, EBLES Vicomte de Turenne, son of ARCHAMBAUD "Jambe-Pourrie" Vicomte de Comborn & his wife Sulpicie de Turenne (-after [1021])."
Med Lands cites:
[147] Willelmi Gemmetencis Historiæ (Du Chesne, 1619), Liber IV, XVIII, p. 247.
[148] Ex Chronico Gaufredi Vosiensis, 22, RHGF XII, p. 423.
[149] Houts (2000), p. 215, quoting Bouillet, A. (1897) Liber Miraculorum sancte Fidis (Paris), pp. 109-11.
[150] Houts (2000), p. 183.5


; Per Racines et Histoire (Normandie): “2) Béatrice (Badia ?) de Normandie ° ~980 + 18/01/1035
     ép. 1000 ou ~975/986 (div.) Ebles 1er de Comborn-Turenne + 1030 vicomte de Comborn et de Turenne (fils d’Archambaud II et de Sulpicie de Turenne)
     postérité Comborn & Turenne”.6

; Per Genealogy.EU (Normandy): “D5. [1m.] Beatrice, *ca 980; m.1000 Ebles I de Turenne (+1030)”.12

; Per Racines et Histoire (Turenne): “Ebles 1er de Comborn dit aussi «de Turenne» ou «Le Vieux» ° ~ 953 +X en 02 avant 1038 (1030 ?, blessé au combat par Witard de La Roche) vicomte de Comborn et de Turenne, (témoin d’une vente en 05/989 ; donations en 04/1001, avec sa femme et son fils, à Saint-Pierre d’Uzerche ; témoin de donations en 06/1006, en 1010 ; donation ~1020 & en 1024 à Saint-Martin de Tulle ; donation ~1030, avec sa 2nde femme, de l’église de Beaumont & de ses dépendances à Saint-Martin d’Uzerche)
     ép. 1) dès 1001 / ~975/986 (div., répudiée) Béatrix (Béatrice, alias Badia) de Normandie ° ~980 + 18/01/1035 (Abbesse de Montivilliers, en Normandie, après sa répudiation) (fille de Richard 1er «Sans Peur», duc de Normandie, et de Gonnor de Crepon)
     ép. 2) dès 1020 Péronnelle + après 1030 (Pétronille pour les copistes)”.13

; Per Genealogy.EU (): “F1. Vcte Ebles I de Turenne; 1m: before 1001 Beatrix, dau.of Ct Richard of Normandy; 2m: Petronille N; by the 1m. he had issue, for whom see http://genealogy.euweb.cz/toulouse/toul2.html”.8

; Per Wikipédia (Fr.): "Ebles de Comborn (953 - 1030), vicomte de Comborn et de Turenne, marié à Béatrice de Normandie, dont deux fils :
** Archambaud III, vicomte de Comborn,
** Guillaume de Turenne, qui épouse Mathilde dont il a un fils Boson de Turenne, qui lui succède à sa mort en 1037."14
She was as widow abbess of Montvilliers after 1030.2

Citations

  1. [S757] Compiled by Carl Boyer 3rd, Medieval English Ancestors of Certain Americans: Many of the English Ancestral Lines Prior to 1300 of those Colonial Americans with known Royal Ancestry but Fully Developed in all Possible Lines (PO Box 220333, Santa Clarita, CA 91322-0333: Carl Boyer 3rd, 2001), pp. 181-182, NORMANDY 3:iii. Hereinafter cited as Boyer [2001] Med English Ancestors.
  2. [S1490] Genealogics Website (oiginated by Leo van de Pas, continued by Ian Fettes), online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Béatrix of Normandy: https://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00139561&tree=LEO. Hereinafter cited as Genealogics Website.
  3. [S1438] Miroslav Marek, online http://genealogy.euweb.cz/index.html, unknown author (e-mail address), downloaded updated 15 May 2003, Normandy page - Normandy Family: http://genealogy.euweb.cz/normandy/normandy.html
  4. [S1702] The Henry Project: The ancestors of king Henry II of England, An experiment in cooperative medieval genealogy on the internet (now hosted by the American Society of Genealogists, ASG), online https://fasg.org/projects/henryproject/, http://sbaldw.home.mindspring.com/hproject/prov/richa000.htm. Hereinafter cited as The Henry Project.
  5. [S2203] Foundation for Medieval Genealogy (FMG): MEDIEVAL LANDS - A prosopography of medieval European noble and royal families, online http://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/index.htm, https://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/NORMANDY.htm#Beatrixdied1035. Hereinafter cited as FMG Medieval Lands Website.
  6. [S2280] Racines et Histoire, online http://racineshistoire.free.fr/LGN/LGN-frameset.html, Ducs de Normandie, p. 3: http://racineshistoire.free.fr/LGN/PDF/Normandie.pdf. Hereinafter cited as Racines et Histoire.
  7. [S1438] Miroslav Marek, updated 15 May 2003, Normandy page - Normandy Family: http://genealogy.euweb.cz/normandy/normandy.html
  8. [S1438] Miroslav Marek, updated 15 May 2003, Toulouse 1 page: http://genealogy.euweb.cz/toulouse/toul1.html
  9. [S1438] Miroslav Marek, updated 15 May 2003, Toulouse 2 page: http://genealogy.euweb.cz/toulouse/toul2.html
  10. [S1490] Genealogics Website, online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Ebles I: https://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00139560&tree=LEO
  11. [S2203] FMG Medieval Lands Website, online http://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/index.htm, https://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/LIMOUSIN.htm#EblesITurenneB
  12. [S1438] Miroslav Marek, updated 15 May 2003, Normandy family: http://genealogy.euweb.cz/normandy/normandy.html
  13. [S2280] Racines et Histoire, online http://racineshistoire.free.fr/LGN/LGN-frameset.html, Maison de Turenne, p. 4: http://racineshistoire.free.fr/LGN/PDF/Turenne.pdf
  14. [S4742] Wikipédia - L'encyclopédie libre, online https://fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikip%C3%A9dia:Accueil_principal, Maison de Limoges: https://fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Maison_de_Limoges#Branche_des_vicomtes_de_Turenne. Hereinafter cited as Wikipédia (FR).
  15. [S1490] Genealogics Website, online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Archambaud II: http://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00139558&tree=LEO
  16. [S1490] Genealogics Website, online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Guillaume: https://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00139554&tree=LEO
  17. [S2203] FMG Medieval Lands Website, online http://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/index.htm, https://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/LIMOUSIN.htm#BosonTurennedied1091A

Ebles I de Turenne Vicomte de Turenne, Aquitaine1,2,3,4,5

M, #15584, b. circa 953, d. after 1030
FatherArchambaud "Camba-Putrida/Jambe-Pourrie" de Comborn Vicomte de Comborn, Ventadour et Turenne3,6,7,8 b. c 934, d. c 1000
MotherSulpicie de Turenne3,6,7,9,8 b. c 940
ReferenceGAV26 EDV26
Last Edited25 Jun 2020
     Ebles I de Turenne Vicomte de Turenne, Aquitaine was born circa 953; Wikipédia (Fr.) says b. ca 953.5,10 He married Béatrix/Beatrice/Badia (?) de Normandie, daughter of Richard I "The Fearless" (?) 3rd Duke of Normandy, before 1001
;
His 1st wife; Med Lands says m. bef 1001.1,11,3,4,6,7,12,13 Ebles I de Turenne Vicomte de Turenne, Aquitaine and Béatrix/Beatrice/Badia (?) de Normandie were divorced.7 Ebles I de Turenne Vicomte de Turenne, Aquitaine married Petronille (?)
;
His 2nd wife.3,4,7
Ebles I de Turenne Vicomte de Turenne, Aquitaine died after 1030.14,2,7
      ; Per Racines et Histoire (Normandie): “2) Béatrice (Badia ?) de Normandie ° ~980 + 18/01/1035
     ép. 1000 ou ~975/986 (div.) Ebles 1er de Comborn-Turenne + 1030 vicomte de Comborn et de Turenne (fils d’Archambaud II et de Sulpicie de Turenne)
     postérité Comborn & Turenne”.13

; Per Genealogy.EU (Normandy): “D5. [1m.] Beatrice, *ca 980; m.1000 Ebles I de Turenne (+1030)”.15

; Per Med Lands:
     "BEATRIX (-18 Jan 1035). Guillaume of Jumièges records that Richard had two daughters “ex concubinis”, but does not name them[147]. The Chronicon Gaufredi Vosiensis records that "sorore Richardi Normannorum Ducis" was the wife of "Archambaldus Chamba-Putrida" and mother of "Ebolum"[148], but this is difficult to sustain chronologically. The Miracles of Sainte-Foy attribute a miracle to "Lady Beatrice his [Lord Ebalus] wife…soon to lose him through divorce" involving her freeing pilgrims from captivity near Turenne[149]. The primary source which confirms her parentage and marriage more precisely has not yet been identified. She returned to Normandy after her divorce and was appointed Abbess of Montivilliers [1035][150].
     "m (before 1001, divorced) as his first wife, EBLES Vicomte de Turenne, son of ARCHAMBAUD "Jambe-Pourrie" Vicomte de Comborn & his wife Sulpicie de Turenne (-after [1021])."
Med Lands cites:
[147] Willelmi Gemmetencis Historiæ (Du Chesne, 1619), Liber IV, XVIII, p. 247.
[148] Ex Chronico Gaufredi Vosiensis, 22, RHGF XII, p. 423.
[149] Houts (2000), p. 215, quoting Bouillet, A. (1897) Liber Miraculorum sancte Fidis (Paris), pp. 109-11.
[150] Houts (2000), p. 183.12


Reference: Genealogics cites: Europäische Stammtafeln, J.A. Stargardt Verlag, Marburg, Schwennicke, Detlev (Ed.) 3:765.6 Ebles I de Turenne Vicomte de Turenne, Aquitaine was also known as Ebles II Vicomte de Turenne.14

; Per Med Lands:
     "EBLES de Turenne, son of ARCHAMBAUD "Jambe-Pourrie" Vicomte de Comborn & his wife Sulpicie de Turenne (-after 1030). "Archambaldus" donated property to Uzerche, for the souls of "filiorum meorum Eboli et Archambaldi", by charter dated Dec 992[1423]. The cartulary of Tulle St Martin records the donation of "Ebalus vicecomes filius Arcambaldi Cambaputrida" dated [1021][1424]. He succeeded as Vicomte de Turenne. "Ebolus vicecomes et Guillelmus et Arcambaldus filii eius, Guido vicecomes, Arcambaldus de Bochiaco, Berlandus et Ramnulfus fratres eius" witnessed the charter dated to [990/1014] under which "Ebolus de Terracio" donated "silvam d’Espartiniæ" to Uzerche[1425]. "Eboli vicecomitis, Willelmi filii sui, Archambaldi filii sui, Geraldi filii sui" witnessed a charter dated to [1030] under which "Emelde" donated "villæ de Trasmon" to Uzerche[1426]. "Ebolus vicecomes et uxor mea Petronilla" donated "ecclesia…a Belmont" to Uzerche by charter dated 1030, witnessed by "Guillelmus filius eius, Archambaldus filius eius, Ebolus filius eius, Rotbertus filius eius…"[1427].
     "m firstly (before 1001, divorced) BEATRIX de Normandie, illegitimate daughter of RICHARD I Comte [de Normandie] & his mistress --- (-18 Jan 1035). Guillaume of Jumièges records that Richard had two daughters “ex concubinis”, but does not name them[1428]. The Chronicon Gaufredi Vosiensis records that "sorore Richardi Normannorum Ducis" was the wife of "Archambaldus Chamba-Putrida" and mother of "Ebolum"[1429], but this is difficult to sustain chronologically. The Miracles of Sainte-Foy attribute a miracle to "Lady Beatrice his [Lord Ebalus] wife…soon to lose him through divorce" involving her freeing pilgrims from captivity near Turenne[1430]. The primary source which more clearly confirms her parentage and marriage has not yet been identified. She returned to Normandy after her divorce and was appointed Abbess of Montivilliers in [1035][1431].
     "m secondly PETRONILLE, daughter of --- (-after 1030). The cartulary of Tulle St Martin records a donation by "Ebalus vicecomes nobilis qui fuit filius Arcambaldi senioris et uxor eius Petronilla…de consensus filiorum suorum Arcambaldi et Willelmi", undated[1432]. The Chronicon Gaufredi Vosiensis records that "Ebolus" took another wife while his lawful wife was still living, by whom he had "Guillermum et Rotbertum"[1433]. "Ebolus vicecomes et uxor mea Petronilla" donated "ecclesia…a Belmont" to Uzerche by charter dated 1030, witnessed by "Guillelmus filius eius, Archambaldus filius eius, Ebolus filius eius, Rotbertus filius eius…"[1434]."
Med Lands cites:
[1423] Uzerche, 40, p. 73.
[1424] Tulle Saint-Martin 88, p. 66.
[1425] Uzerche, 458, p. 257.
[1426] Uzerche, 489, p. 273.
[1427] Uzerche, 441, p. 250.
[1428] Willelmi Gemmetensis monachi Historiæ Normannorum, Du Chesne, A. (1619) Historiæ Normannorum Scriptores Antiqui (Paris) (“Willelmi Gemmetencis Historiæ (Du Chesne, 1619)”), Liber IV, XVIII, p. 247.
[1429] Ex Chronico Gaufredi Vosiensis, 23, RHGF XII, p. 423.
[1430] Bouillet, A. (ed.) Liber Miraculorum sancte Fidis (Paris), pp. 109-11, quoted and trans. by Houts, E. van (ed. and trans.) (2000) The Normans in Europe (Manchester University Press), p. 215.
[1431] Houts (2000), p. 183.
[1432] Tulle Saint-Martin 152, p. 92.
[1433] Ex Chronico Gaufredi Vosiensis, 23, RHGF XII, p. 424.
[1434] Uzerche, 441, p. 250.7
GAV-26 EDV-26.

; Per Wikipédia (Fr.): "Ebles de Comborn (953 - 1030), vicomte de Comborn et de Turenne, marié à Béatrice de Normandie, dont deux fils :
** Archambaud III, vicomte de Comborn,
** Guillaume de Turenne, qui épouse Mathilde dont il a un fils Boson de Turenne, qui lui succède à sa mort en 1037."10


; Per Racines et Histoire (Turenne): “Ebles 1er de Comborn dit aussi «de Turenne» ou «Le Vieux» ° ~ 953 +X en 02 avant 1038 (1030 ?, blessé au combat par Witard de La Roche) vicomte de Comborn et de Turenne, (témoin d’une vente en 05/989 ; donations en 04/1001, avec sa femme et son fils, à Saint-Pierre d’Uzerche ; témoin de donations en 06/1006, en 1010 ; donation ~1020 & en 1024 à Saint-Martin de Tulle ; donation ~1030, avec sa 2nde femme, de l’église de Beaumont & de ses dépendances à Saint-Martin d’Uzerche)
     ép. 1) dès 1001 / ~975/986 (div., répudiée) Béatrix (Béatrice, alias Badia) de Normandie ° ~980 + 18/01/1035 (Abbesse de Montivilliers, en Normandie, après sa répudiation) (fille de Richard 1er «Sans Peur», duc de Normandie, et de Gonnor de Crepon)
     ép. 2) dès 1020 Péronnelle + après 1030 (Pétronille pour les copistes)”.16

; Per Genealogy.EU (): “F1. Vcte Ebles I de Turenne; 1m: before 1001 Beatrix, dau.of Ct Richard of Normandy; 2m: Petronille N; by the 1m. he had issue, for whom see http://genealogy.euweb.cz/toulouse/toul2.html”.3 He was Vicomte de Turenne
Per Wikipédia (Fr.): "996-ca 1030 : Ebles Comborn de Turenne (v.953-entre 1030 et 1036) épouse Béatrix de Normandie. Fils aîné d'Archambaud de Comborn. Ses deux fils se partagèrent son héritage. L'aîné Guillaume devint vicomte de Turenne et le cadet Archambaud devint vicomte de Comborn." between 996 and 1030.5

Family 2

Petronille (?) d. a 1030

Citations

  1. [S757] Compiled by Carl Boyer 3rd, Medieval English Ancestors of Certain Americans: Many of the English Ancestral Lines Prior to 1300 of those Colonial Americans with known Royal Ancestry but Fully Developed in all Possible Lines (PO Box 220333, Santa Clarita, CA 91322-0333: Carl Boyer 3rd, 2001), pp. 181-182, NORMANDY 3:iii. Hereinafter cited as Boyer [2001] Med English Ancestors.
  2. [S1438] Miroslav Marek, online http://genealogy.euweb.cz/index.html, unknown author (e-mail address), downloaded updated 15 May 2003, Normandy page - Normandy Family: http://genealogy.euweb.cz/normandy/normandy.html
  3. [S1438] Miroslav Marek, updated 15 May 2003, Toulouse 1 page: http://genealogy.euweb.cz/toulouse/toul1.html
  4. [S1438] Miroslav Marek, updated 15 May 2003, Toulouse 2 page: http://genealogy.euweb.cz/toulouse/toul2.html
  5. [S4742] Wikipédia - L'encyclopédie libre, online https://fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikip%C3%A9dia:Accueil_principal, Liste des vicomtes de Turenne: https://fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Liste_des_vicomtes_de_Turenne. Hereinafter cited as Wikipédia (FR).
  6. [S1490] Genealogics Website (oiginated by Leo van de Pas, continued by Ian Fettes), online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Ebles I: https://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00139560&tree=LEO. Hereinafter cited as Genealogics Website.
  7. [S2203] Foundation for Medieval Genealogy (FMG): MEDIEVAL LANDS - A prosopography of medieval European noble and royal families, online http://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/index.htm, https://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/LIMOUSIN.htm#EblesITurenneB. Hereinafter cited as FMG Medieval Lands Website.
  8. [S2203] FMG Medieval Lands Website, online http://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/index.htm, https://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/LIMOUSIN.htm#ArchambaudComborndied1000orafterA
  9. [S1490] Genealogics Website, online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Sulpicie de Turenne: https://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00139563&tree=LEO
  10. [S4742] Wikipédia (FR), online https://fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikip%C3%A9dia:Accueil_principal, Maison de Limoges: https://fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Maison_de_Limoges#Branche_des_vicomtes_de_Turenne
  11. [S1438] Miroslav Marek, updated 15 May 2003, Normandy page - Normandy Family: http://genealogy.euweb.cz/normandy/normandy.html
  12. [S2203] FMG Medieval Lands Website, online http://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/index.htm, https://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/NORMANDY.htm#Beatrixdied1035
  13. [S2280] Racines et Histoire, online http://racineshistoire.free.fr/LGN/LGN-frameset.html, Ducs de Normandie, p. 3: http://racineshistoire.free.fr/LGN/PDF/Normandie.pdf. Hereinafter cited as Racines et Histoire.
  14. [S812] e-mail address, online http://worldconnect.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/igm.cgi?db=bferris, Jr. William R. Ferris (unknown location), downloaded updated 4 Apr 2002, http://worldconnect.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/igm.cgi?op=GET&db=bferris&id=I24819
  15. [S1438] Miroslav Marek, updated 15 May 2003, Normandy family: http://genealogy.euweb.cz/normandy/normandy.html
  16. [S2280] Racines et Histoire, online http://racineshistoire.free.fr/LGN/LGN-frameset.html, Maison de Turenne, p. 4: http://racineshistoire.free.fr/LGN/PDF/Turenne.pdf
  17. [S1490] Genealogics Website, online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Archambaud II: http://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00139558&tree=LEO
  18. [S1490] Genealogics Website, online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Guillaume: https://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00139554&tree=LEO
  19. [S2203] FMG Medieval Lands Website, online http://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/index.htm, https://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/LIMOUSIN.htm#BosonTurennedied1091A

Mauger (?) Count of Corbeil1

M, #15585
FatherRichard I "The Fearless" (?) 3rd Duke of Normandy1 b. 28 Aug 933, d. 20 Nov 996
MotherGunnora (Gunnor, Gonnor) de Crepon Duchess of Normandy1 b. c 936, d. bt 1027 - 1031
Last Edited8 Mar 2004

Citations

  1. [S757] Compiled by Carl Boyer 3rd, Medieval English Ancestors of Certain Americans: Many of the English Ancestral Lines Prior to 1300 of those Colonial Americans with known Royal Ancestry but Fully Developed in all Possible Lines (PO Box 220333, Santa Clarita, CA 91322-0333: Carl Boyer 3rd, 2001), p. 182, NORMANDY 3:vii. Hereinafter cited as Boyer [2001] Med English Ancestors.

Geoffrey (?) Duke of Brittany1

M, #15586, d. 1008
FatherRichard I "The Fearless" (?) 3rd Duke of Normandy1,2 b. 28 Aug 933, d. 20 Nov 996
MotherGunnora (Gunnor, Gonnor) de Crepon Duchess of Normandy1 b. c 936, d. bt 1027 - 1031
Last Edited21 Oct 2012
     Geoffrey (?) Duke of Brittany married Hawise (?)1

Geoffrey (?) Duke of Brittany died in 1008.1

Family

Hawise (?) d. 1054

Citations

  1. [S757] Compiled by Carl Boyer 3rd, Medieval English Ancestors of Certain Americans: Many of the English Ancestral Lines Prior to 1300 of those Colonial Americans with known Royal Ancestry but Fully Developed in all Possible Lines (PO Box 220333, Santa Clarita, CA 91322-0333: Carl Boyer 3rd, 2001), p. 182, NORMANDY 3:viii. Hereinafter cited as Boyer [2001] Med English Ancestors.
  2. [S2280] Racines et Histoire, online http://racineshistoire.free.fr/LGN/LGN-frameset.html, Comtes d'Eu, p. 2. Hereinafter cited as Racines et Histoire.

Hawise (?)1

F, #15587, d. 1054
Last Edited7 Mar 2004

Citations

  1. [S757] Compiled by Carl Boyer 3rd, Medieval English Ancestors of Certain Americans: Many of the English Ancestral Lines Prior to 1300 of those Colonial Americans with known Royal Ancestry but Fully Developed in all Possible Lines (PO Box 220333, Santa Clarita, CA 91322-0333: Carl Boyer 3rd, 2001), p. 182, NORMANDY 3:viii. Hereinafter cited as Boyer [2001] Med English Ancestors.

Eudes II (?) Count of Champagne1

M, #15588
FatherRichard I "The Fearless" (?) 3rd Duke of Normandy1 b. 28 Aug 933, d. 20 Nov 996
MotherGunnora (Gunnor, Gonnor) de Crepon Duchess of Normandy1 b. c 936, d. bt 1027 - 1031
Last Edited5 Mar 2004
     Eudes II (?) Count of Champagne married Maud (?)1

Family

Maud (?)

Citations

  1. [S757] Compiled by Carl Boyer 3rd, Medieval English Ancestors of Certain Americans: Many of the English Ancestral Lines Prior to 1300 of those Colonial Americans with known Royal Ancestry but Fully Developed in all Possible Lines (PO Box 220333, Santa Clarita, CA 91322-0333: Carl Boyer 3rd, 2001), p. 182, NORMANDY 3:ix. Hereinafter cited as Boyer [2001] Med English Ancestors.

Robert (?) Comte d'Avranches1

M, #15590
FatherRichard I "The Fearless" (?) 3rd Duke of Normandy1 b. 28 Aug 933, d. 20 Nov 996
Last Edited9 Mar 2004
     Robert (?) Comte d'Avranches married Bilihild (?) of Maine.1

Family

Bilihild (?) of Maine

Citations

  1. [S757] Compiled by Carl Boyer 3rd, Medieval English Ancestors of Certain Americans: Many of the English Ancestral Lines Prior to 1300 of those Colonial Americans with known Royal Ancestry but Fully Developed in all Possible Lines (PO Box 220333, Santa Clarita, CA 91322-0333: Carl Boyer 3rd, 2001), p. 182, NORMANDY 3:xii. Hereinafter cited as Boyer [2001] Med English Ancestors.

Muriella (?) of Normandy1,2,3

F, #15592, b. circa 990, d. circa 1025
FatherRichard I "The Fearless" (?) 3rd Duke of Normandy1,4,2,3 b. 28 Aug 933, d. 20 Nov 996
Last Edited2 Aug 2020
     Muriella (?) of Normandy was born circa 990.2 She married Tancrede de Hauteville Duke of Apulia circa 1020
;
His 1st wife.1,4,2,3,5,6,7
Muriella (?) of Normandy died circa 1025.2
      ; Per Genealogy.EU (de Hauteville): “Tankred de Hauteville, Duke of Apulia (1047-?), *ca 990, +1041; 1m: ca 1020 Muriella of Normandy (*ca 990, +ca 1025), dau.of Richard I of Normandy; 2m: Fredesende of Normandy (*ca 995, +ca 1057)”.8

; Per Racines et Histoire (Hautevile): “Tancrède de Hauteville-La-Guichard (50, près Coutances) ° ~990 + 1041
     ép. 1) avant 1015 Murielle de Normandie ° ~990 + dès 1015 (fille de Richard 1er, duc de Normandie) => 5 fils
     ép. 2) dès 1015 Frédésende (Freissinge) de Normandie ° ~995 + ~1057/58 soeur bâtarde de la précédente => 7 fils et 3 filles (aussi fille de Richard 1er ) ”.9

; Leo van de Pas cites: Stammtafeln zur Geschichte der Europäischen Staaten, 4 volumes, Marburg, 1953, 1975., W. K. Prinz von Isenburg, Reference: II 117.4 Muriella (?) of Normandy was also known as Moriella (?)10

; Per Genealogy.EU (Normandy): “D11. [?m.] Moriella; m.Tancred d'Hauteville (+ca 1041)”.11

Family

Tancrede de Hauteville Duke of Apulia b. c 970, d. c 1041
Children

Citations

  1. [S757] Compiled by Carl Boyer 3rd, Medieval English Ancestors of Certain Americans: Many of the English Ancestral Lines Prior to 1300 of those Colonial Americans with known Royal Ancestry but Fully Developed in all Possible Lines (PO Box 220333, Santa Clarita, CA 91322-0333: Carl Boyer 3rd, 2001), pp. 182-183, NORMANDY 4:iv. Hereinafter cited as Boyer [2001] Med English Ancestors.
  2. [S1438] Miroslav Marek, online http://genealogy.euweb.cz/index.html, unknown author (e-mail address), downloaded updated 15 May 2003, Hautvle page (de Hauteville): http://genealogy.euweb.cz/italy/hautvle.html
  3. [S1438] Miroslav Marek, updated 15 May 2003, Normandy page - Normandy Family: http://genealogy.euweb.cz/normandy/normandy.html
  4. [S1490] Genealogics Website (oiginated by Leo van de Pas, continued by Ian Fettes), online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Moriella of Normandy: http://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00080253&tree=LEO. Hereinafter cited as Genealogics Website.
  5. [S1671] Count W. H. Rüdt-Collenberg, The Rupenides, Hethumides and Lusignans: The Structure of the Armeno-Cilician Dynasties (11, Rude de Lille, Paris 7e, France: Librairie C. Klincksieck for the Calouste Gulbenkian Foundation Armenian Libraryn (Lisbon), 1963), Chart VI (A): The House of the Princes of Antiochia. Hereinafter cited as Rudt-Collenberg: The Rupenides, etc.
  6. [S1490] Genealogics Website, online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Tancred de Hauteville: https://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00080252&tree=LEO
  7. [S2203] Foundation for Medieval Genealogy (FMG): MEDIEVAL LANDS - A prosopography of medieval European noble and royal families, online http://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/index.htm, https://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/SICILY.htm#_Toc498671769. Hereinafter cited as FMG Medieval Lands Website.
  8. [S1438] Miroslav Marek, updated 15 May 2003, de Hauteville: http://genealogy.euweb.cz/italy/hautvle.html#T
  9. [S2280] Racines et Histoire, online http://racineshistoire.free.fr/LGN/LGN-frameset.html, Maison de Hauteville, p. 2: http://racineshistoire.free.fr/LGN/PDF/Hauteville.pdf. Hereinafter cited as Racines et Histoire.
  10. [S812] e-mail address, online http://worldconnect.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/igm.cgi?db=bferris, Jr. William R. Ferris (unknown location), downloaded updated 4 Apr 2002, http://worldconnect.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/igm.cgi?op=GET&db=bferris&id=I28109
  11. [S1438] Miroslav Marek, updated 15 May 2003, Normandy: http://genealogy.euweb.cz/normandy/normandy.html
  12. [S1490] Genealogics Website, online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Béatrice de Hauteville: http://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00421115&tree=LEO
  13. [S2203] FMG Medieval Lands Website, online http://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/index.htm, https://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/SICILY.htm#Beatrixdied1101
  14. [S1490] Genealogics Website, online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Drogo de Hauteville: http://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00422431&tree=LEO
  15. [S2203] FMG Medieval Lands Website, online http://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/index.htm, https://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/SICILY.htm#Drogodied1051
  16. [S2203] FMG Medieval Lands Website, online http://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/index.htm, https://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/SICILY.htm#Guillaumedied1046
  17. [S2203] FMG Medieval Lands Website, online http://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/index.htm, https://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/SICILY.htm#Onfroidied1057

Fresendis/Frasenda (?)1,2,3

F, #15593, b. circa 995, d. circa 1057
ReferenceGAV30 EDV30
Last Edited7 Sep 2020
     Fresendis/Frasenda (?) was born circa 995.4,2 She married Tancrede de Hauteville Duke of Apulia
;
His 2nd wife.1,3,4,2,5,6,7
Fresendis/Frasenda (?) died circa 1057.4,2,3
     ; Per Genealogy.EU (de Hauteville): “Tankred de Hauteville, Duke of Apulia (1047-?), *ca 990, +1041; 1m: ca 1020 Muriella of Normandy (*ca 990, +ca 1025), dau.of Richard I of Normandy; 2m: Fredesende of Normandy (*ca 995, +ca 1057)”.8
; Per Racines et Histoire (Hautevile): “Tancrède de Hauteville-La-Guichard (50, près Coutances) ° ~990 + 1041
     ép. 1) avant 1015 Murielle de Normandie ° ~990 + dès 1015 (fille de Richard 1er, duc de Normandie) => 5 fils
     ép. 2) dès 1015 Frédésende (Freissinge) de Normandie ° ~995 + ~1057/58 soeur bâtarde de la précédente => 7 fils et 3 filles (aussi fille de Richard 1er ) ”.9

; NB: The identity of Fressenda's parents is not known with certainty.
     Genealogy.EU (Normany) shows her as the dau. of Richard I of Normandy and his 1st wife, Gunnor.
     Boyer (p. 183) shows Fresendis/Fredesina as the dau. of Richard II "the Good" and grand dau. of Richard I.
     Racines et Histoire says she was "soeur bâtarde de la précédente" [bastard sister of Murielle de Normandie dau. of Richard]
     Genalogics and Med Lands show no parents for her, but Med Lands reports: "A myth, not based on any evidence, emerged in the 16th century to the effect that both wives of Tancred de Hauteville were daughters of Richard I Duke of Normandy."
     A series of postings on soc.genalogy.medieval (SGM - now a Google Group in 2001 reviews the evidence:
     Per Peter Stewart wrote: "It is thought possible - not quite the same as believed to be "correct" - that Tancred's wives Muriella and Fressendis were illegitimate daughters of Richard II (the Good) of Normandy. They were probably related in some way, and for all I know it may be that at least Muriella was old enough to have been a daughter of Richard I (the Fearless) - but Fressendis seems to have belonged more certainly to a younger generation. (She is credited with at least nine children born up to ca 1045/50, making it unlikely that her father died in 996.)"
     Todd Farmerie responded: "The evidence for these connections are a pair of relationship clauses in contemporary (or nearly so) documents. One of these calls William, son of Tancred and Murielle "nepos Richardi Magni ducis Normandiæ", while the other says of Robert Guiscard ". . . inter quos nepos ipsius Ricardi, Robertus nomine, in Appuliam precectus est". Adding in chronology, which would seem to make the two women of the same generation as Richard III, it would seem to make them daughters of his father, Richard II."

Conclusion: I have deleted the connection I had earler for Fressenda to Richard. GA Vaut.1,10,11,7,9,12

Reference: Genealogics cites: Europäische Stammtafeln, Band II, Frank Baron Freytag von Loringhoven, 1975, Isenburg, W. K. Prinz von. 117.11 Fresendis/Frasenda (?) was also known as Fredesina (?) of Normandy.13,3 Fresendis/Frasenda (?) was also known as Frasenda (?)2 GAV-30 EDV-30.

; Per Genealogy.EU (Normandy): “D7. [1m.] Frasenda, *ca 995, +ca 1057; m.Tancred d'Hauteville (+ca 1041)”.10

Family

Tancrede de Hauteville Duke of Apulia b. c 970, d. c 1041
Children

Citations

  1. [S757] Compiled by Carl Boyer 3rd, Medieval English Ancestors of Certain Americans: Many of the English Ancestral Lines Prior to 1300 of those Colonial Americans with known Royal Ancestry but Fully Developed in all Possible Lines (PO Box 220333, Santa Clarita, CA 91322-0333: Carl Boyer 3rd, 2001), pp. 182-183, NORMANDY 4:v. Hereinafter cited as Boyer [2001] Med English Ancestors.
  2. [S1438] Miroslav Marek, online http://genealogy.euweb.cz/index.html, unknown author (e-mail address), downloaded updated 15 May 2003, Normandy page (de Hauteville): http://genealogy.euweb.cz/normandy/normandy.html
  3. [S1490] Genealogics Website (oiginated by Leo van de Pas, continued by Ian Fettes), online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Fredesina of Normandy: http://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00080254&tree=LEO. Hereinafter cited as Genealogics Website.
  4. [S1438] Miroslav Marek, updated 15 May 2003, Hautvle page (de Hauteville): http://genealogy.euweb.cz/italy/hautvle.html
  5. [S1671] Count W. H. Rüdt-Collenberg, The Rupenides, Hethumides and Lusignans: The Structure of the Armeno-Cilician Dynasties (11, Rude de Lille, Paris 7e, France: Librairie C. Klincksieck for the Calouste Gulbenkian Foundation Armenian Libraryn (Lisbon), 1963), Chart VI (A): The House of the Princes of Antiochia. Hereinafter cited as Rudt-Collenberg: The Rupenides, etc.
  6. [S1490] Genealogics Website, online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Tancred de Hauteville: https://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00080252&tree=LEO
  7. [S2203] Foundation for Medieval Genealogy (FMG): MEDIEVAL LANDS - A prosopography of medieval European noble and royal families, online http://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/index.htm, https://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/SICILY.htm#_Toc498671769. Hereinafter cited as FMG Medieval Lands Website.
  8. [S1438] Miroslav Marek, updated 15 May 2003, de Hauteville: http://genealogy.euweb.cz/italy/hautvle.html#T
  9. [S2280] Racines et Histoire, online http://racineshistoire.free.fr/LGN/LGN-frameset.html, Maison de Hauteville, p. 2: http://racineshistoire.free.fr/LGN/PDF/Hauteville.pdf. Hereinafter cited as Racines et Histoire.
  10. [S1438] Miroslav Marek, updated 15 May 2003, Normandy: http://genealogy.euweb.cz/normandy/normandy.html
  11. [S1490] Genealogics Website, online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Fredesina of Normandy: https://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00080254&tree=LEO
  12. [S1549] "Author's comment", various, Gregory A. Vaut (e-mail address), to unknown recipient (unknown recipient address), 2 Aub 2020; unknown repository, unknown repository address. Hereinafter cited as "GA Vaut Comment."
  13. [S812] e-mail address, online http://worldconnect.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/igm.cgi?db=bferris, Jr. William R. Ferris (unknown location), downloaded updated 4 Apr 2002, http://worldconnect.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/igm.cgi?op=GET&db=bferris&id=I28110
  14. [S2280] Racines et Histoire, online http://racineshistoire.free.fr/LGN/LGN-frameset.html, http://racineshistoire.free.fr/LGN/PDF/Antioche.pdf, p. 2.
  15. [S2203] FMG Medieval Lands Website, online http://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/index.htm, https://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/SICILY.htm#RobertGuiscarddied1085B
  16. [S1490] Genealogics Website, online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Robert Guiscard: https://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00080255&tree=LEO
  17. [S2128] John P. Ravilious, "Ravilious email 24 Jan 2007: "Ancestry of Matilda of Apulia: the dukes of Naples"," e-mail message from e-mail address (https://groups.google.com/g/soc.genealogy.medieval/c/HBUMZ5AmysI/m/f-6WOFrSFgIJ) to e-mail address, 24 Jan 2007, https://groups.google.com/g/soc.genealogy.medieval/c/HBUMZ5AmysI/m/f-6WOFrSFgIJ. Hereinafter cited as "Ravilious email 24 Jan 2007."
  18. [S1490] Genealogics Website, online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Guilhem de Hauteville: https://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00595755&tree=LEO
  19. [S2203] FMG Medieval Lands Website, online http://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/index.htm, https://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/NEAPOLITAN%20NOBILITY.htm#Guillaumedied1080
  20. [S2203] FMG Medieval Lands Website, online http://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/index.htm, https://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/SICILY.htm#FredesendeMRichardCapuaAversadied1078
  21. [S1490] Genealogics Website, online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Roger I: https://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00080258&tree=LEO
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Odo/Eudes (?) de Conteville, Bishop of Bayeux, 1st Earl of Kent1,2,3,4

M, #15594, b. circa 1030, d. circa 6 January 1097
FatherHerluin (?) Vicomte de Conteville1,5,2,6,7,4 b. c 1001, d. c 1066
MotherHerleveArlette (?) de Falaise1,2,8,4 b. c 1000, d. c 1050
ReferenceGAV29 EDV28
Last Edited26 Jul 2020
     Odo/Eudes (?) de Conteville, Bishop of Bayeux, 1st Earl of Kent was born circa 1030; Boyer says b. ca 1030; Genealogics says b. ca 1036; Med Lands says b. 1036/38.1,5,4,9
Odo/Eudes (?) de Conteville, Bishop of Bayeux, 1st Earl of Kent died in February 1096; 1st Crusade.5
Odo/Eudes (?) de Conteville, Bishop of Bayeux, 1st Earl of Kent died circa 6 January 1097 at Palermo, Città Metropolitana di Palermo, Sicilia, Italy (now); Died in Palermo on his way to Palestine with the First Crusade.1,4,9,10
Odo/Eudes (?) de Conteville, Bishop of Bayeux, 1st Earl of Kent was buried after 6 January 1097 at Cattedrale di Palermo, Palermo, Città Metropolitana di Palermo, Sicilia, Italy.9
      ; Per Camp:
     "BAYEUX: Odo/Eudes Bishop of Bayeux
Odo [the Latinised form of Eudes], Bishop of Bayeux, afterwards Earl of Kent, the Conqueror’s half-brother, is mentioned by William of Poitiers as being in the expeditionary force to pray, but he is named and shown on the Bayeux Tapestry, baton in hand, rallying the Normans who were fleeing before the English onslaught; whether he fought against the English army or only stopped the Normans in flight remains doubtful. He left an illegitimate son, from whom descended the great Norman house of Le Hommet, Hereditary constables of Normandy.”.3

; This is the same person as ”Odo of Bayeux” at Wikipedia and as ”Odon de Bayeux” at Wikipédia (FR).


This is the same person as ”Odo, earl of Kent” at the Oxford Dictionary of National Biography.10,11,12

; Per Med Lands:
     "EUDES [Odo] ([1036/38]-[Antioch/Palermo] [2/6] Jan 1097, bur Palermo Cathedral). Guillaume of Jumièges names “Herleva Fulberti cubicularii ducis filia” as the mother of “Willelmus...ex concubina Roberti ducis...natus“, and that after Duke Robert died “Herluinus...miles” married her by whom he had “duos filios Odonem et Robertum”[74]. The birth date of Eudes is estimated on the assumption that Guillaume of Jumièges is correct (which is not beyond doubt, as noted above). Orderic Vitalis records that Guillaume Duke of Normandy granted “multis honoribus in Normannia et Anglia” to “Herluinus...de Contavilla...filios eius: Radulfus, quem de alia conjuge procreaverat, fratresque suos uterinos: Odonis et Rodbertum”[75]. Florence of Worcester names Eudes as the brother of King William I "but only on his mother's side"[76]. [Geoffrey Richard Driscoll Tobin has suggested that the third and fourth witnesses in the following charter were Robert and Eudes, sons of Vicomte Herluin[77]: "Comes Eudo et nepos eius Gaufridus, Robertus vicecomes et frater eius Eudo…Guichomarus filius Alani vicecomitis…" witnessed a charter dated to 1050 relating to the abbey of Saint-Georges de Rennes[78]. No brothers named Vicomte Robert and Eudes have been identified among the Breton nobility at the time, and the suggestion is plausible. If correct, it has several implications. Firstly, the order of their names indicates that Robert was older than his brother Eudes. Secondly, this would be the only primary source which indicates that Robert bore the vicecomital title (before the death of his father). Thirdly, the dating of the charter is probably correct considering the suggested date of Eudes’s appointment as bishop.] Bishop of Bayeux [1050] (when Eudes must have been an adolescent, assuming that his birth date is correctly estimated as shown above). Guillaume of Jumièges records that, after the death of “Hugo filius Rodulphi comitis Baiocensis episcopus”, Guillaume II Duke of Normandy appointed “Odoni fratri suo” to the bishopric of Bayeux, a position he held for nearly 50 years[79]. He is said to have taken an active part in the preparation of the Norman invasion of England and was present at the battle of Hastings 23 Oct 1066. The Brevis Relatio de Origine Willelmi Conquestoris records that "Odone episcopo de Baiocis" contributed 120 ships towards the invasion of England in 1066[80]. His half-brother William I King of England rewarded him with a grant of over 500 manors in England and created him Earl of Kent in 1067[81]. Orderic Vitalis records that King William installed “Guillermum Osberni filium” at his new fortress at Winchester (“intra mœnia Guentæ”) and appointed him “vice sua toti regno versus Aquilonem”, while he granted “Doveram...totamque Cantiam” to “Odoni fratri suo”, and thus he entrusted “his duobus præfecturam Angliæ”, seconded by “Hugonem de Grentemaisnilio et Hugonem de Monteforti, Guillelmumque de Garenna”, dated to 1067[82]. Florence of Worcester records that King William left "fratrumque suum Odonem Baiocensem episcopum et Willelmum filium Osberni quem in Herefordensi provincia comitum" when he went to Normandy 21 Feb [1067][83]. He was one of the leaders of the force which suppressed the rebellion of the earls of Norfolk and Hereford in 1075[84]. He began scheming to become Pope, sending great gifts to influential men in Rome, but was arrested by King William and sent to Normandy where he was a prisoner in Rouen between 1082 and 1087[85]. Orderic Vitalis records that King William captured “Odoni fratri suo...in insula Vecta” and held him in prison for four years “pro nimietate sua”[86]. He was released by King William on his deathbed[87]. Although King William II restored Eudes to his earldom, he was one of the leaders of the rebellion in 1088 which sought to put Robert Duke of Normandy on the English throne[88]. He was banished from England and all his honours and possessions forfeited. He became chief adviser to Duke Robert in Normandy[89]. Orderic Vitalis records that Bishop Eudes died “in urbem Panormitanam, quam vulgo Palernam vocant” and that “Gislebertus Ebroicensis episcopus” buried him “in metropolitana sanctæ Dei genetricis Mariæ basilica”, adding that he had been appointed “ab adolescentia sua” (which supports that the theory that he was born after the death of Robert II Duke of Normandy, as discussed above)[90]. William of Malmesbury records that he left on the First Crusade with Robert III Duke of Normandy and died “Antiochiæ, in obsidione Christianorum”[91]. The necrology of Jumièges records the death 2 Jan of “Odo episcopus”[92]. Bishop Eudes had one illegitimate son:
a) JEAN de Bayeux (-1131)."

Med Lands cites:
[74] Willelmi Gemmetencis Historiæ (Duchesne, 1619), Liber VII, III, p. 268.
[75] Orderic Vitalis (Prévost), Vol. III, Liber VII, XV, p. 246.
[76] Florence of Worcester, 1088, p. 186.
[77] Geoffrey Richard Driscoll Tobin in a private email to the author dated 21 Aug 2015.
[78] Rennes Saint-Georges, XIII, p. 238.
[79] Willelmi Gemmetencis Historiæ (Duchesne, 1619), Liber VII, XVI, p. 275.
[80] Brevis Relatio de Origine Willelmi Conquestoris, p. 22.
[81] CP VII 126.
[82] Orderic Vitalis (Prévost), Vol. II, Liber IV, I, p. 167.
[83] Florentii Wigornensis Monachi Chronicon, p. 1.
[84] Orderic Vitalis (Chibnall), Vol. II, p. 243, and Florence of Worcester, 1074, p. 178.
[85] Orderic Vitalis (Chibnall), Vol. III, p. 189, Vol. IV, Book VII, p. 43, and Anglo-Saxon Chronicle, E, 1082 and 1086 [1087].
[86] Orderic Vitalis (Prévost), Vol. III, Liber VII, XV, p. 246.
[87] Florence of Worcester, 1087, p. 185.
[88] Florence of Worcester, 1088, p. 186.
[89] CP VII 129.
[90] Orderic Vitalis (Prévost), Vol. IV, Liber X, IV, p. 17.
[91] Willelmi Malmesbiriensis, Vol. II, Liber III, 277, p. 334.
[92] Ex obituario Gemmeticensi, RHGF XXIII, p. 417.9


Reference: Genealogics cites: Europäische Stammtafeln, J.A. Stargardt Verlag, Marburg, Schwennicke, Detlev (Ed.) 3/4:694A.4

; Per Genealogics:
     “Eudes or Odo was born about 1036s, the son of William the Conqueror's mother Herleve/Harlette, and Herluin de Conteville. He was the half-brother of William the Conqueror, and was for a time second in power to the king of England. His younger brother was Robert, comte de Mortain, earl of Cornwall.
     “Although Eudes was an ordained cleric, he is best known as a warrior and statesman. He found ships for the invasion of England and is one of the very few proven Companions of William the Conqueror known to have fought at the Battle of Hastings in 1066. The Bayeux Tapestry, probably commissioned by him to adorn his own cathedral, appears to labour the point that he did not actually fight, that is to say shed blood, at Hastings, but rather encouraged the troops from the rear. The Latin annotation embroidered onto the Tapestry above his image reads: 'Hic Odo Eps (Episcopus) Baculu(m) Tenens Confortat Pueros' (Here Odo the Bishop holding a club strengthens the boys). It seemed that his clerical status forbade him from using a sword. He was accompanied by William, the carrier of his crozier, and a retinue of servants and members of his household.
     “In 1067 Eudes became earl of Kent, and for some years he was a trusted royal minister. On some occasions when William the Conqueror was absent (back in Normandy), he served as de facto regent of England, and at times he led the royal forces against rebellions (such as the Revolt of the Earls). However the precise sphere of his powers is not certain. There are also other occasions when he accompanied William back to Normandy. During this time Eudes acquire vast estates in England, larger in extent than anyone except the king: he had land in 23 counties, primarily in the south east and in East Anglia.
     “In 1076 Eudes was tried before a large and senior assembly over the course of three days at Penenden Heath in Kent for defrauding the Crown and the diocese of Canterbury. At the conclusion of the trial he was forced to return a number of properties and his assets were reapportioned.
     “In 1082 he was suddenly disgraced and imprisoned for having planned a military expedition to Italy. His motivations are not certain. Some chroniclers a generation later wrote that Eudes desired to make himself Pope, but the contemporary evidence is ambiguous. It was also said that his aim was to defend the Pope against the Holy Roman Emperor Heinrich IV. Whatever the reason, Eudes spent the next five years in prison, and his English estates were taken back by the king, as was his office as Earl of Kent; Eudes was not, however, deposed as Bishop of Bayeux.
     “William on his deathbed in 1087, was reluctantly persuaded by his half-brother Robert, comte de Mortain, earl of Cornwall, to release Eudes. After the king's death he returned to his earldom and soon organised a rebellion in support of William's son Robert Curthose, who had been made Duke of Normandy. The rebellion of 1088 failed, and William II Rufus, to the disgust of his supporters, permitted Eudes to leave the kingdom. He then remained in the service of Robert in Normandy.
     “Eudes joined the First Crusade, and started in the duke's company for Palestine, but he died on the way at Palermo in January or February 1097.
     “Little good is recorded of Eudes. It was recorded that his vast wealth was gained by extortion and robbery. His ambitions were boundless and his morals lax. However, like many prelates of his age, he was a patron of learning and the arts. He was also a great architect. He founded the abbay of Troarn in 1059 and rebuilt the cathedral of his see, and is likely to have commissioned the celebrated Bayeux Tapestry. He may also have sponsored an early version of the Song of Roland. More certain is his development of the cathedral school in Bayeux, and his patronage of a number of younger men who later became prominent prelates.”.4

; Per Racines et Histoire (Conteville): “1) Odo(n) (Eudes) de Conteville ° 1035 + entre 02 et 06/01/1097 (Palerme, croisé) Evêque de Bayeux (~1050, investi à la mort de l’Evêque Hugues d’Ivry, fils de Raoul d’Ivry, comte de Bayeux), prend une part active à la préparation de l’invasion et X Hastings (23/10/1066), Régent d’Angleterre en l’absence du Roi Guillaume (21/02/1067), se fait attribuer 253 fiefs anglais et le château de Douvres (on parle en tout de 500 manoirs !), fait earl of Kent (1067) ; réprime la rebellion des earls of Norfolk et d’Hereford (1075), intrigue pour devenir Pape, mis au arrêts par Guillaume 1er en Normandie (Rouen, 1082-1087), libéré
par le Roi mourant puis dépouillé par le Roi Guillaume II «Le Roux» (rebellion de 1088) banni d’Angleterre, sert ensuite le duc de Normandie, Robert, jusqu’à sa mort sur le chemin de la croisade
     liaison illégitime avec X) ?”.13 Odo/Eudes (?) de Conteville, Bishop of Bayeux, 1st Earl of Kent was also known as Odo de Bayeux 1st Earl of Kent, Bishop of Bayeux.11 GAV-29 EDV-28. He was      Évêque de Bayeux between 1049 and 1097.11 He was Companion of William the Conqueror in 1066 at Battle of Hastings, Hastings, co. Sussex, England.3 He was 1st Earl of Kent between 1067 and 1088.2,3,10

Family

Child

Citations

  1. [S757] Compiled by Carl Boyer 3rd, Medieval English Ancestors of Certain Americans: Many of the English Ancestral Lines Prior to 1300 of those Colonial Americans with known Royal Ancestry but Fully Developed in all Possible Lines (PO Box 220333, Santa Clarita, CA 91322-0333: Carl Boyer 3rd, 2001), p. 183, NORMANDY 6. Hereinafter cited as Boyer [2001] Med English Ancestors.
  2. [S1429] Unknown compiler, Notable British Families 1600s-1900s from Burke's Peerage., CD-ROM (n.p.: Broderbund Software Company, 1999), Notable British Families, Burke's "Dormant, Abeyant, Forfeited, and Extinct Peerages" (Gen. Pub. Co., Baltimore, 1985 reprint of 1883 edition), Burgh - Earl of Kent, p. 88. Hereinafter cited as Notable British Families CD # 367.
  3. [S1770] Anthony J. Camp, My Ancestors Came with the Conqueror: Those Who Did, and Some of Those Who Probably Did Not (n.p.: Genealogical Publishing Co., Inc., 1998), p. 30. Hereinafter cited as Camp (1998): My Ancestors Came with the Conquero.
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  5. [S812] e-mail address, online http://worldconnect.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/igm.cgi?db=bferris, Jr. William R. Ferris (unknown location), downloaded updated 4 Apr 2002, http://worldconnect.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/igm.cgi?op=GET&db=bferris&id=I30889
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Hawise (?) of Salisbury1,2,3

F, #15595, b. circa 1118, d. before 13 January 1152
FatherWalter Fitz Edward d'Evreux of Salisbury4,5,2,3 d. 1147
MotherSybil de Chaworth6,2,3
ReferenceEDV26
Last Edited26 Nov 2020
     Hawise (?) of Salisbury was born circa 1118 at Pembroke, Pembrokeshire, Wales; Genealogics says b. ca 1118; Med Lands says b. 1120.2,3,7 She married Routrou I/III du Perche Count du Perche, son of Geoffroy II du Perche Comte du Perche et Mortagne, Seigneur de Mortagne et de Nogent and Beatrice/Beatrix de Montdidier, before 1126
;
His 3rd wife; her 1st husband. Genealogics says m bef 1126; Med Lands says m aft 1120.1,2,3,8,9 Hawise (?) of Salisbury married Robert I "le Grand" de Dreux Cmte de Dreux, du Perche et de Braine-sur-Vesle, son of Louis VI "le Gros" (?) King of France and Adelaide de Maurienne Countess of Savoy, Queen of France, circa 1144
;
His 2nd wife; her 2nd husband.10,11,12,2,3,13,14
Hawise (?) of Salisbury died before 13 January 1152 at Braine, Departement de l'Aisne, Picardie, France (now); Genealogics and Med Lands say d bef 13 Jan 1152.2,3,7
     ; Per Racines et Histoire (Dreux): “Robert de France = Robert 1er «Le Grand» de Dreux ° 1124/26 + 11/10/1188 (Braine, 02) comte de Dreux (1137, 1152), croisé (06/1147), Régent et comte du Perche (par sa 2° femme), seigneur de Braine (1152, par sa 3° femme), investi du comté de Dreux par son frère Louis VII (il cède le comté à son fils aîné dès 1184 en conservant quelques droits sur Rochefort et Bréthencourt du fait de 1ère femme) (édifie après 1160 un fort château à Dreux, en lisière de forêt (La Robertière) renforcé ~1180 ; et une résidence de plaisance à Chailly, (depuis Chilly(-Mazarin)))
[ selon du Chesne : aurait ép. 1) ~1139/41 Agnès de Garlande ° ~1112 + 1143 dame de Rochefort, Gometz et Gournay (-sur-Marne, 93) (fille d’Anseau, comte de Rochefort, Sénéchal de France, et de Béatrice de Monthléry ; veuve d’Amauri III, seigneur de Montfort, comte d’Evreux + 19/04/1137) mais cette thèse ne résiste pas à l’analyse ]
ép. 1) ~1144/45 Hawise de Salisbury ° ~1118 + un 13/01 avant 1152 (fille de Walter FitzEdward = Gautier d’Evreux, earl of Salisbury et de Sybille de Chaource ou Sourches (Chaworth) ; veuve de Rotrou II, comte du Perche, seigneur de Bellême +X 06-08/05/1144)
ép. 3) fin 1152 Agnès de Baudément ° ~1130 + 24/07/1204 dame de Braine (-sur-Vesle, 02), Fère (-en-Tardenois, 02), Brie (-Comte-Robert, 77), Pontarcy (ou Pont-Arcy), Baudément, Longueville, Torcy, Longjumeau, Savigny-sur-Ardres, Quincy (-sous-Le-Mont, 77), Néelle (ou Nesles), Aisne, etc. (fille de Gui de Baudément (51), comte de Braine, et d’Alix de Monthléry, dame de Braine ; veuve de Milon II, comte de Bar-sur-Seine)”.
; Per Med Lands:
     "ROBERT de France, son of LOUIS VI King of France & his wife Adélaïde de Maurienne [Savoie] ([1124/26]-Braine [10/12] Oct 1188, bur Braine, église abbatiale de Saint-Ived). The Chronicle of Alberic de Trois-Fontaines names "patruus regis Philippi, comes Robertus" when recording his marriages and children[15]. William of Tyre names him as brother of Louis VII King of France[16]. He left on the Second Crusade with his brother King Louis VII in Jun 1147[17]. Regent and Comte du Perche, by right of his second wife, during the minority of her sons. Seigneur de Braine 1152, by right of his third wife. In compensation for the loss of Perche, his brother Louis VII installed him as Seigneur de Dreux in 1152. "Robertus…comes Drocarum et Brane et…et uxor mea Agnes comitissa Brane" donated revenue from property "apud Qualliacum" to Paris Hôtel-Dieu, with the consent of "Roberti filii nostri", by charter dated 1178[18]. He resigned Dreux to his eldest son in 1184. The necrology of Chartres cathedral records the death "VI Id Oct" of "Robertus Drocensis comes frater Ludovici regis Francorum"[19]. The necrology of Orléans Cathedral records the death “IV Id Oct” of “Robertus comes”[20].
     "[Du Chesne suggests that Agnes de Garlande, widow of Amaury [III] de Montfort Comte d’Evreux, married, as her second husband and his first wife, Robert de France Seigneur de Dreux[21]. He bases this on a charter dated to [1 Nov 1183/31 Mar 1184] in which Philippe II King of France confirmed the property of Notre-Dame de Colombs, including property "in loco Campus à la Drouë" donated by "Robertus comes de Drocis et de Montfort" and "domum de là Nouë" donated by "Simon de Drocis in sua ultima voluntate"[22]. Du Chesne’s argument is that Robert Seigneur de Dreux could only have been entitled to "le titre de comte de Montfort, don’t le roy le rehausse" from "un mariage fait avec la douairiere de la mesme comté". He also suggests that "Simon de Drocis", also named in the same charter, was the son of this marriage. There are three difficulties with Du Chesne’s argument. Firstly, Amaury [III] de Montfort was comte d’Evreux not "comte de Montfort", a title which does not appear ever to have been borne by members of his family. Secondly, the chronology is unfavourable for the widow of Amaury [III], who was probably born in [1110/15] at the latest, to have married Robert de Dreux whose birth is estimated to [1124/26]. Thirdly, it is unlikely that Agnes would have given the name Simon to a son born from this supposed second marriage, given that she already had a son of that name by her marriage to Amaury. In conclusion, the evidence of the [1183/84] charter alone is insufficient to corroborate this marriage.]
     "m firstly ([1144/45]) as her second husband, HAWISE de Salisbury, widow of ROTROU [II] Comte du Perche Seigneur de Bellême, daughter of WALTER FitzEdward Earl of Salisbury & his wife Sibylle de Chaources [Chaworth] (-13 Jan before 1152). The Chronicle of Alberic de Trois-Fontaines refers to the first wife of "comitem de Brana Robertum domnum" as "matrem…comitis Rotroldi de Pertico, natam de Salesberia"[23]. Robert of Torigny records that "uxorem…suam [comitis Perticensis Rotrodi]" was later given by "Ludovicus rex Francorum [to] Roberto fratri suo"[24]. The necrology of Chartres cathedral records the death "Id Jan" of "Amicia comitissa Perticensis mater Rotrodi militis"[25], although if this entry correctly refers to Hawise it is surprising that there is no reference which would indicate her second marriage.
     "m secondly (1152) as her second husband, AGNES de Baudémont Dame de Braine, widow of MILON [II] Comte de Bar-sur-Seine, daughter and heiress of GUY de Baudément Seigneur de Braine & his wife Alix Dame de Braine (1130-24 Jul 1204, bur Braine, église abbatiale de Saint-Ived). The Chronicle of Alberic de Trois-Fontaines names "Agnes nobilis de Barro super Sequanam" as second wife of "comitem de Brana Robertum domnum", specifying that she was "mater comitisse Petronille"[26]. The primary source which confirms her parentage has not been identified. "Robertus…comes Drocarum et Brane et…et uxor mea Agnes comitissa Brane" donated revenue from property "apud Qualliacum" to Paris Hôtel-Dieu, with the consent of "Roberti filii nostri", by charter dated 1178[27]. "R comes dominus Droc et Bran" donated property to Notre-Dame de la Trappe with the consent of "Agnetis uxoris eius [R patris meis]…comitisse matris mee…et Yolande comitisse uxore mee et liberorum meorum " by charter dated Jul 1212[28], although the document is incorrectly dated assuming that the death date of Agnes is correct as shown above. The Chronicon Fiscannensis Cœnobii records the death in 1204 of "Agnes Comitissa Branæ"[29]. The necrology of Orléans Cathedral records the death “IX Kal Aug” of “Agnes comitissa de Brena”[30]."
Med Lands cites:
[15] Chronica Albrici Monachi Trium Fontium 1219, MGH SS XXIII, p. 909.
[16] William of Tyre XXI.XXX, p. 1058.
[17] Runciman (1978), Vol. 2, pp. 253 and 259.
[18] Paris Hôtel-Dieu, 13, p. 6.
[19] Obituaires de Sens Tome II, Eglise cathédrale de Chartres, Obituaire du xii siècle, p. 102.
[20] Obituaires de Sens Tome III, Cathédrale d’Orléans, Livre de Distributions du XVI siècle, p. 109.
[21] Duchesne (1631) Dreux, Dreux, p. 14.
[22] Duchesne (1624), Preuves, p. 47.
[23] Chronica Albrici Monachi Trium Fontium 1162, MGH SS XXIII, p. 845, and 1219, p. 909 where it is specified that she was "nata…de Anglia filia comitis Salesberiensis".
[24] Robert de Torigny, Tome I, 1144, p. 234.
[25] Obituaires de Sens Tome II, Eglise cathédrale de Chartres, Obituaire du xii siècle, p. 33.
[26] Chronica Albrici Monachi Trium Fontium 1162, MGH SS XXIII, p. 846.
[27] Paris Hôtel-Dieu, 13, p. 6.
[28] Notre-Dame de la Trappe II, p. 2.
[29] Ex Chronico Fiscannensis Cœnobii, RHGF, Tome XVIII, p. 350.
[30] Obituaires de Sens Tome III, Cathédrale d’Orléans, Livre de Distributions du XVI siècle, p. 79.14

; Per Genealogy.EU (Capet 6): “Robert I "le Grand" de Dreux, du Perche et de Braine-sur-Vesle, *1123, +Braine 11.10.1188, bur there; 1m: 1139/41 Agnes (*1122 +1143), dau.of Anseau de Garlande, Cte de Rochefort; 2m: ca 1144 Havise (*1118 +1152) dau.of Gautier d'Evreux, Earl of Salisbury; 3m: 1152 Agnes, Cts de Braine (*1130 +1202/18) dau.of Guy de Baudement, Cte de Braine”.11
; Per Med Lands:
     "ROTROU "le Grand" du Perche, son of GEOFFROY [I] Comte de Mortagne, Comte du Perche & his wife Béatrix de Ramerupt [Roucy] (-killed in battle Rouen [20 Jan/23 Apr] or 6 May 1144). He is named and his parentage given by Orderic Vitalis[2135]. "Beatrice uxor mea et filio meo Rotroco nec non fratribus meis" confirmed the confirmation of donations to Saint-Denis de Nogent by "Gaufridus castri Mauritaniæ comes" dated [1080][2136]. The Genealogiæ Scriptoris Fusniacensis names "Rotaldum eiusdem loci comitem et Iulianam de Aquila matrem regine Navarrensis, et Margaretam uxorem Gisleberti de Novo-burgo" as children, incorrectly, of "Rotaldo comiti de Pertica" & his wife Beatrix de Roucy[2137]. He succeeded his father as Comte du Perche. He accompanied Robert III Duke of Normandy on the First Crusade Sep 1096[2138]. William of Tyre names Rotrou Comte de Perche among those who left on the First Crusade in 1096 with Robert Count of Flanders[2139]. "Rotrocus filius domini Gauffridi comitis Mauritaniensis" confirmed donations to Saint-Denis de Nogent by charter dated 1099 after returning from Jerusalem and visiting his father's tomb[2140]. He fought for his first cousin Alfonso I "el Batallador" King of Aragon against the Moors in 1105 and 1114[2141]. He founded the abbey of Tiron in 1109[2142]. In 1114, he assisted Henry I King of England at the siege of Bellême, which he had previously claimed by hereditary right from his paternal grandmother and which the king granted to him after its capture. "Perticensis comes Rotrocus" donated property to the abbey of Sainte-Trinité de Tiron with the consent of "genere mei Helie filiique mee Philippe" by charter dated [1120] witnessed by "Juliane soror mea"[2143]. "Comes Rotro" donated property to the monastery of Subiano, confirmed by "Aldefonsus rex", by charter dated Apr 1123[2144]. He returned to France after another expedition in Spain in 1125[2145]. "Rotroldus comes Perticensis et dominus Belismensis, filius Gaufredi comitis Perticensis et comitissæ Beatricis" confirmed the donation of the church of Saint-Léonard de Bellême to Marmoutier by charter dated 1126[2146]. He supported Stephen King of England who gave him Moulin in 1135[2147]. Robert of Torigny records the death in 1144 at the siege of Rouen of "comes Perticensis Rotrodus"[2148]. The necrology of Saint-Père-en-Vallée records the death "II Non Mai" of "Rotrocus comes Perticensis"[2149].
     "m firstly ---. The primary source which confirms her marriage has not yet been identified.
     "m secondly (1103) MATHILDE, illegitimate daughter of HENRY I King of England & his mistress Edith --- (-drowned off Barfleur, Normandy 25 Nov 1120). She is named as daughter of King Henry I by Orderic Vitalis, who specifies that the king "built up [her husband's] power by greatly augmenting his estates and wealth in England"[2150]. Orderic also specifies that the king arranged her marriage at the same time as that of her half-sister Juliane[2151]. The Genealogiæ Scriptoris Fusniacensis refers to, but does not name, the wife of "Rotaldus comes" as "filiam regis Anglie", specifying that she had daughters[2152]. Her father gave her lands in Wiltshire as her dowry[2153]. "Rotrocus comes et Beatrix mater eius atque Mathildis uxor comitis" subscribed the charter dated to [1105/07] under which "Guillermus de Loiscel" made donations to Saint-Denis de Nogent[2154]. The Continuator of Florence of Worcester names "…filia regis comitissa de Perceio…" among those drowned in the sinking of the White Ship[2155]. William of Malmesbury also records that she drowned following the sinking of the “Blanche Nef [White Ship]”[2156].
     "m thirdly (after [1120]) as her first husband, HAWISE de Salisbury, daughter of WALTER FitzEdward Earl of Salisbury & his wife Sibylle de Chaources [Chaworth] (-13 Jan before 1152). William of Tyre refers to Rotrou's marriage with the sister of Earl Patrick after the marriage of his daughter Philippa[2157]. Philippa’s marriage is dated to [1120]. The chronology of Hawise’s children suggests their births after [1135/40] at the earliest. If that is correct, Hawise would presumably have been an infant if she had married soon after [1120]. It appears more likely that the marriage took place in the early 1130s, which would place Hawise’s birth in [1120], which would suggest that she was one of her parents’ older children. The Chronicle of Alberic de Trois-Fontaines refers to the first wife of "comitem de Brana Robertum domnum" as "matrem…comitis Rotroldi de Pertico, natam de Salesberia"[2158]. Robert of Torigny records that "uxorem…suam [comitis Perticensis Rotrodi]" was later given by "Ludovicus rex Francorum [to] Roberto fratri suo"[2159]. She married secondly ([1144/45]) as his first wife, Robert de France, who was later installed as Seigneur de Dreux. The necrology of Chartres cathedral records the death "Id Jan" of "Amicia comitissa Perticensis mater Rotrodi militis"[2160], although if this entry correctly refers to Hawise it is surprising that there is no reference which would indicate her second marriage."
Med Lands cites:
[2135] Orderic Vitalis (Chibnall), Vol. IV, Book VIII, pp. 301 and 331.
[2136] Nogent-le-Rotrou VII, p. 24, and Cluny Tome IV, 3563, p. 698.
[2137] Genealogiæ Scriptoris Fusniacensis 14, MGH SS XIII, pp. 254-5.
[2138] Orderic Vitalis (Chibnall), Vol. V, Book IX, p. 34, and Vol. VI, Book XIII, p. 395.
[2139] William of Tyre I.XVII, p. 45.
[2140] Nogent-le-Rotrou X, p. 36.
[2141] Orderic Vitalis (Chibnall), Vol. VI, Book XIII, pp. 394-6 and 401.
[2142] ES III 689.
[2143] Tiron Sainte-Trinité XXXIII, p. 53.
[2144] Lacarra 'Documentos para la reconquista del valle del Ebro' (1952) 308, p. 533.
[2145] Orderic Vitalis (Chibnall), Vol. VI, Book XIII, p. 405.
[2146] Marmoutier-Perche, 21, p. 33.
[2147] CP XI Appendix D, pp. 112-3.
[2148] Robert de Torigny, Vol. I, 1144, p. 234.
[2149] Obituaires de Sens Tome II, Abbaye de Saint-Père-enVallée, p. 188.
[2150] Orderic Vitalis (Chibnall), Vol. VI, Book XIII, p. 399.
[2151] Orderic Vitalis (Chibnall), Vol. VI, Book XI, p. 41.
[2152] Genealogiæ Scriptoris Fusniacensis 14, MGH SS XIII, pp. 254-5.
[2153] Domesday Descendants, p. 236.
[2154] Nogent-le-Rotrou XI, p. 39.
[2155] Florentii Wigornensis Monachi Chronicon, Continuatio, p. 74.
[2156] William of Malmesbury, 419, p. 364.
[2157] William of Tyre XIV.I, p. 607.
[2158] Chronica Albrici Monachi Trium Fontium 1162, MGH SS XXIII, p. 845.
[2159] Chronique de Robert de Torigny I, 1144, p. 234.
[2160] Obituaires de Sens Tome II, Eglise cathédrale de Chartres, Obituaire du xii siècle, p. 33.15

; Per Racines et Histoire (Perche): “Rotrou 1er «Le Grand» du Perche +X selon les chroniqueurs entre 20/01 et 23/04 ou 06/05/1144 (bataille de Rouen) comte du Perche (confirmations de donations à Saint-Denis de Nogent 1080 et 1099 ; donations à Tiron 1120), accompagne le duc Robert III de Normandie en croisade (09/1096), combat pour son cousin Alfonso 1° «El Batallador», Roi d’Aragon contre les Maures (1105, 1114 puis 1125), fonde l’Abbaye de Tiron (1109), participe au siège du roi Henry 1er d’Angleterre contre Bellême (1114) - qu’il revendique comme héritage de son aïeule paternelle et qu’il reçoit en don du Roi ainsi que de nombreux fiefs en Angleterre -, partisan du Roi Etienne dont il reçoit Moulin (1135)
     ép. 1) ?
     ép. 2) Mathilde bâtarde d’Angleterre + 25/11/1120 (noyée à Barfleur dans le naufrage de la «Blanche Nef» (fille d’Henry 1er, Roi d’Angleterre, et de sa maîtresse Edith ; mariée par son père dans le même temps que sa demi-soeur Juliane, elle reçoit en douaire de celui-ci des terres dans le Wiltshire) (citée dans une charte de donation à Saint-Denis de Nogent datable de 1105/07)
     ép. 3) avant 1126 Hawise de Salisbury ° 1118 + un 13/01 avant 1152 (fille de Walter FitzEdward, earl of Salisbury, et de Sybille de Chaources (Chaworth) ; soeur de l’earl Patrick ; elle ép. 2) 1144/45 Robert de France qui deviendra plus tard comte de Dreux) ”.9

; This is the same person as ”Harvise d'Évreux” at Wikipédia (FR).16 EDV-26. Hawise (?) of Salisbury was also known as Hawise/Hedwig (?) d'Évreux.17,18,19,16

Reference: Genealogics cites: Europäische Stammtafeln, J.A. Stargardt Verlag, Marburg, Schwennicke, Detlev (Ed.) 3:63; 3/4:689.2

; Per Med Lands:
     "HAWISE ([1120]-13 Jan before 1152). William of Tyre refers to Rotrou's marriage with the sister of Earl Patrick after the marriage of his daughter Philippa[1445]. Philippa’s marriage is dated to [1120]. The chronology of Hawise’s children suggests their births after [1135/40] at the earliest. If that is correct, Hawise would presumably have been an infant if she had married soon after [1120]. It appears more likely that the marriage took place in the early 1130s, which would place Hawise’s birth in [1120], which would suggest that she was one of her parents’ older children. The Chronicle of Alberic de Trois-Fontaines refers to the first wife of "comitem de Brana Robertum domnum" as "matrem…comitis Rotroldi de Pertico, natam de Salesberia"[1446]. Robert of Torigny records that "uxorem…suam [comitis Perticensis Rotrodi]" was later given by "Ludovicus rex Francorum [to] Roberto fratri suo"[1447]. The necrology of Chartres cathedral records the death "Id Jan" of "Amicia comitissa Perticensis mater Rotrodi militis"[1448], although if this entry correctly refers to Hawise it is surprising that there is no reference which would indicate her second marriage.
     "m firstly (after [1120]) as his third wife, ROTROU Comte du Perche, son of GEOFFROY I Comte de Mortagne, Comte du Perche & his wife Béatrix de Roucy (-killed in battle Rouen [20 Jan/23 Apr] 1144).
     "m secondly ([1144/45]) as his first wife, ROBERT de France, son of LOUIS VI King of France & his wife Adélaïde de Maurienne [Savoie] ([1124/26]-Braine 11 Oct 1188, bur Braine, église abbatiale de Saint-Ived). His brother King Louis VI installed him as Seigneur de Dreux in 1152."
Med Lands cites:
[1445] William of Tyre XIV.I, p. 607.
[1446] Chronica Albrici Monachi Trium Fontium 1162, MGH SS XXIII, p. 845.
[1447] Robert de Torigny I, 1144, p. 234.
[1448] Obituaires de Sens Tome II, Eglise cathédrale de Chartres, Obituaire du xii siècle, p. 33.3

Family 1

Routrou I/III du Perche Count du Perche b. c 1070, d. bt 20 Jan 1144 - 23 Apr 1144
Child

Citations

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  9. [S2280] Racines et Histoire, online http://racineshistoire.free.fr/LGN/LGN-frameset.html, Comtes du Perche & Comtes de Mortagne, p. 3: http://racineshistoire.free.fr/LGN/PDF/Perche.pdf. Hereinafter cited as Racines et Histoire.
  10. [S757] Compiled by Carl Boyer 3rd, Boyer [2001] Med English Ancestors, p. 193, de PERCHE 2:ii.
  11. [S1438] Miroslav Marek, online http://genealogy.euweb.cz/index.html, unknown author (e-mail address), downloaded updated 15 May 2003, Capet 6 page: http://genealogy.euweb.cz/capet/capet6.html#P1
  12. [S1438] Miroslav Marek, updated 15 May 2003, Capet 4 page: http://genealogy.euweb.cz/capet/capet4.html#R1
  13. [S1490] Genealogics Website, online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Robert I: https://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00013794&tree=LEO
  14. [S2203] FMG Medieval Lands Website, online http://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/index.htm, https://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/pardreman.htm#RobertIDreuxdied1188B
  15. [S2203] FMG Medieval Lands Website, online http://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/index.htm, https://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/NORMANDY%20NOBILITY.htm#RotrouIdied1144B
  16. [S4742] Wikipédia - L'encyclopédie libre, online https://fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikip%C3%A9dia:Accueil_principal, Harvise d'Évreux: https://fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Harvise_d%27%C3%89vreux. Hereinafter cited as Wikipédia (FR).
  17. [S812] e-mail address, online http://worldconnect.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/igm.cgi?db=bferris, Jr. William R. Ferris (unknown location), downloaded updated 4 Apr 2002, http://worldconnect.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/igm.cgi?op=GET&db=bferris&id=I31920
  18. [S1438] Miroslav Marek, updated 15 May 2003, Capet 4 page: http://genealogy.euweb.cz/capet/capet4.html
  19. [S1490] Genealogics Website, online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Havise d'Evreux: http://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00120879&tree=LEO
  20. [S1490] Genealogics Website, online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Routrou II: http://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00330740&tree=LEO
  21. [S2280] Racines et Histoire, online http://racineshistoire.free.fr/LGN/LGN-frameset.html, http://racineshistoire.free.fr/LGN/PDF/Blois-Champagne.pdf, p. 7.
  22. [S2280] Racines et Histoire, online http://racineshistoire.free.fr/LGN/LGN-frameset.html, Maison de Châtillon (-sur-Marne) & Saint-Pol, Blois, Porcien, etc., p. 5: http://racineshistoire.free.fr/LGN/PDF/Chatillon.pdf
  23. [S1490] Genealogics Website, online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, https://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/pardreman.htm#AdeleAlixDreuxdied12051210
  24. [S1438] Miroslav Marek, updated 15 May 2003, Capet 6 page: http://genealogy.euweb.cz/capet/capet6.html
  25. [S1490] Genealogics Website, online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Adèle de Dreux: https://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00027533&tree=LEO

Elizabeth Abernethy1,2,3

F, #15596
FatherAlexander Abernethy 6th Lord Saltoun1 d. 1587
MotherLady Alison Keith2 d. Aug 1567
Last Edited4 Jul 2006
     Elizabeth Abernethy married John Innes 17th of that Ilk, son of William Innes 15th of that Ilk and Elizabeth Hepburn, in 1580
; her 1st husband.3,2 Elizabeth Abernethy married James Gordon of Auchenhieff circa 1587
; date of marriage based on fact her 1st husband was "said" murdered ca 1587.3,2
      ; Elizabeth; m John Innes, of the Ilk (see ROXBURGHE, E).1

; van de Pas cites: Burke's Genealogical and Heraldic History of the Peerage, Baronetage and Knightage, London, Reference: 2136, 2179.2

Family 1

John Innes 17th of that Ilk b. 1556, d. c 1587

Citations

  1. [S1396] Burke's Peerage & Gentry Web Site, online http://www.burkes-peerage.net/sites/peerageandgentry/sitepages/home.asp, Fraser Lords Saltoun Family Page. Hereinafter cited as Burke's Peerage & Gentry Web Site.
  2. [S1490] Genealogics Website (oiginated by Leo van de Pas, continued by Ian Fettes), online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Elizabeth Abernethy: http://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00264820&tree=LEO. Hereinafter cited as Genealogics Website.
  3. [S1396] Burke's Peerage & Gentry Web Site, online http://www.burkes-peerage.net/sites/peerageandgentry/sitepages/home.asp, Innes Ker - Dukes of Roxburghe Family Page.

Margaret Abernethy1

F, #15597
FatherAlexander Abernethy 6th Lord Saltoun1 d. 1587
MotherLady Alison Keith2 d. Aug 1567
Last Edited4 Jul 2006
     Margaret Abernethy married George Meldrum of Drumbreck in 1582.1

      ; Margaret; m 1582, George Meldrum of Drumbreck.1

Citations

  1. [S1396] Burke's Peerage & Gentry Web Site, online http://www.burkes-peerage.net/sites/peerageandgentry/sitepages/home.asp, Fraser Lords Saltoun Family Page. Hereinafter cited as Burke's Peerage & Gentry Web Site.
  2. [S1490] Genealogics Website (oiginated by Leo van de Pas, continued by Ian Fettes), online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Lady Alison Keith: http://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00086952&tree=LEO. Hereinafter cited as Genealogics Website.

Matilda (Maud) FitzRoy (?) Duchess of Brittany1,2,3,4,5

F, #15598, d. after 1128
FatherHenry I "Beauclerc" (?) King of England b. Sep 1068, d. 1 Dec 1135; Phillips cites: Complete Peerage, in Appendix D of volume 11 (1949), by Geoffrey H. White1,6,2,7,8,3,4
ReferenceEDV27 GKJ26
Last Edited20 Dec 2020
     Matilda (Maud) FitzRoy (?) Duchess of Brittany married Conan III le Gros (?) Duc de Bretagne, son of Alain IV "Fergent" (?) Duc de Bretagne; comte de Cornouaille, comte de Rennes et de Nantes and Ermengarde (?) d'Anjou, Duchess of Aquitaine, circa 1112
; Med Lands says m. 1112 or before.9,6,10,2,3,4,11,12
Matilda (Maud) FitzRoy (?) Duchess of Brittany died after 1128.4
      ; Per Med Lands:
     "CONAN de Bretagne (-17 Sep 1148). Orderic Vitalis names “Conanum” as the son of "Fergannus comes" and his second wife “filiam comitis Andegavorum”[216]. The Chronicon Briocensi names "Conanum et Hazevisiam" as the two children of "Alanus filius primogenitus [Hoelli]" and his wife "Ermengardem filiam Comitis Andegavensis"[217]. William of Tyre records his parentage[218]. He succeeded on the abdication of his father in [1114/16] as CONAN III "Grossus/le Gros" Duke of Brittany. "Conanus Britannorum dux" donated property to Saint-Nicolas d´Angers by charter dated to [1129/36], which names "mater mea Ermengardis comitissa"[219]. The Chronicon Britannico Alter records the death in 1148 of "Conanus Dux Britanniæ"[220]. The Chronicon Ruyensis Cœnobii records the death in 1148 of "Conanus Dux Britanniæ filius Alani et Ermengardæ"[221]. The necrology of Angers Cathedral records the death "XV Kal Oct" of "Conanus dux et comes Britanniæ" and his donation of "ecclesiam de Pinello" to the church of St Maurice[222].
     "m (1112 or before) MATILDA, illegitimate daughter of HENRY I King of England & his mistress --- (-after 1128). Her marriage is referred to by Orderic Vitalis[223], in a later passage recording that the betrothal occurred before the alliance was agreed between Henry I King of England and Louis VI King of France, which is dated to 1113[224]. Guillaume de Jumièges names Mathilde as illegitimate daughter of King Henry I and her husband "Conano comiti minoris Britanniæ"[225]. "Alanus, Hoelli filius, comes totius Britannie et princeps" donated property to the abbey of Redon with the consent of "suorum filiorum Conani et Gaufridi, necnon et uxoris suæ Hermengardis et uxoris filii sui Conani, Mahalt" by charter dated 1112[226]. "Mathilda comitissa et Haduisa soror comitis Conani" signed the undated charter Duke Conan III donated a fishery to the abbey of Mont-Saint-Michel[227]. "Ermengardis mater mea et uxor mea Matildis…" signed the charter dated 1128 under which Duke Conan III confirmed the possessions of the monks of Saint-Melaine de Rennes[228]."
Med Lands cites:
[216] Orderic Vitalis (Prévost), Vol. II, Liber IV, XVII, p. 292.
[217] Ex Chronico Briocensi, RHGF, Tome XII, p. 566.
[218] William of Tyre XIV.I, p. 606.
[219] La Borderie (1888), XXXII, p. 70.
[220] Ex Chronico Britannico Altero, RHGF, Tome XII, p. 560.
[221] Ex Chronico Ruyensis Cœnobii, RHGF, Tome XII, p. 564.
[222] L'Obituaire de la cathédrale d'Angers.
[223] Orderic Vitalis (Chibnall), Vol. II, Book IV, p. 353.
[224] Orderic Vitalis (Chibnall), Vol. VI, Book XI, p. 181.
[225] Willelmi Gemmetencis Historiæ (Duchesne, 1619), Liber VIII, XXIX, p. 307.
[226] Redon CCCLXX, p. 323.
[227] La Borderie (1888), XLII, p. 87.
[228] La Borderie (1888), XXXI bis, p. 90.12


Reference: Genealogics cites:
1. A Genealogical History of the dormant, abeyant, forfeited and extinct peerages of the British Empire, London, 1866, Burke, Sir Bernard. 162.
2. Europäische Stammtafeln, J.A. Stargardt Verlag, Marburg, Schwennicke, Detlev (Ed.) 3/1:75 Neu.
3. The Lineage and Ancestry of H.R.H. Prince Charles, Prince of Wales, Edinburgh, 1977, Paget, Gerald. 12.3


; This is the same person as ”Matilda FitzRoy, Duchess of Brittany” at Wikipedia and as ”Mathilde FitzRoy” at Wikipédia (FR).5,13 EDV-27 GKJ-26.

; illegitimate.2,3

; Per Genealogy.EU (Normandy): “H9. [illegitimate] Maud; m.ca 1112 Conon III de Bretagne (*ca 1071 +1148)”

Per Genealogy.EU (Bretagne 4): “C1. Conon III "le Gros", Duc de Bretagne (1112-48), *ca 1071, +1148; m.ca 1112 Mahaude, illegitimate dau.of King Henry I of England”.14,15

; Per Med Lands:
     "MATILDA (-after 1128). Guillaume de Jumièges names Mathilde as illegitimate daughter of King Henry I and her husband "Conano comiti minoris Britanniæ"[285]. Her marriage is referred to by Orderic Vitalis[286], in a later passage recording that the betrothal occurred before the alliance was agreed between Henry I King of England and Louis VI King of France, which is dated to 1113[287]. "Alanus, Hoelli filius, comes totius Britannie et princeps" donated property to the abbey of Redon with the consent of "suorum filiorum Conani et Gaufridi, necnon et uxoris suæ Hermengardis et uxoris filii sui Conani, Mahalt" by charter dated 1112[288]. "Mathilda comitissa et Haduisa soror comitis Conani" signed the undated charter Duke Conan III donated a fishery to the abbey of Mont-Saint-Michel[289]. "Ermengardis mater mea et uxor mea Matildis…" signed the charter dated 1128 under which Duke Conan III confirmed the possessions of the monks of Saint-Melaine de Rennes[290].
     "m (1112 or before) CONAN III "le Gros" Duke of Brittany, son of ALAIN IV “Fergant” Duke of Brittany & his second wife Ermengarde d’Anjou (-17 Sep 1148)."
Med Lands cites:
[285] Willelmi Gemmetencis Historiæ (Du Chesne, 1619), Liber VIII, XXIX, p. 307.
[286] Orderic Vitalis, Vol. II, Book IV, p. 353.
[287] Orderic Vitalis, Vol. VI, Book XI, p. 181.
[288] Redon, CCCLXX, p. 323.
[289] La Borderie (1888), XLII, p. 87.
[290] La Borderie (1888), XXXI bis, p. 90.4
She was Duchess consort of Brittany between 1113 and 1148.5

Citations

  1. [S757] Compiled by Carl Boyer 3rd, Medieval English Ancestors of Certain Americans: Many of the English Ancestral Lines Prior to 1300 of those Colonial Americans with known Royal Ancestry but Fully Developed in all Possible Lines (PO Box 220333, Santa Clarita, CA 91322-0333: Carl Boyer 3rd, 2001), pp. 183-184, NORMANDY 8:ii. Hereinafter cited as Boyer [2001] Med English Ancestors.
  2. [S1438] Miroslav Marek, online http://genealogy.euweb.cz/index.html, unknown author (e-mail address), downloaded updated 15 May 2003, Normandy page (Normandy family): http://genealogy.euweb.cz/normandy/normandy.html
  3. [S1490] Genealogics Website (oiginated by Leo van de Pas, continued by Ian Fettes), online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Matilda bastarddaughter of England: https://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00005944&tree=LEO. Hereinafter cited as Genealogics Website.
  4. [S2203] Foundation for Medieval Genealogy (FMG): MEDIEVAL LANDS - A prosopography of medieval European noble and royal families, online http://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/index.htm, https://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/ENGLAND,%20Kings%201066-1603.htm#MaudMConanIIIBretagne. Hereinafter cited as FMG Medieval Lands Website.
  5. [S1953] Wikipedia: The Free Encyclopedia, online http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Main_Page, https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Matilda_FitzRoy,_Duchess_of_Brittany. Hereinafter cited as Wikipedia.
  6. [S1429] Unknown compiler, Notable British Families 1600s-1900s from Burke's Peerage., CD-ROM (n.p.: Broderbund Software Company, 1999), Notable British Families, Burke's "Dormant, Abeyant, Forfeited, and Extinct Peerages" (Gen. Pub. Co., Baltimore, 1985 reprint of 1883 edition), De Dreux - Earls of Richmond, p. 162. Hereinafter cited as Notable British Families CD # 367.
  7. [S1513] Chris Phillips, "Phillips email "Bastards of Henry I"," e-mail message from e-mail address (https://groups.google.com/g/soc.genealogy.medieval/c/RkKZnaKJH3k/m/uC7N0kFlCwAJ) to e-mail address, 14 November 2003. Hereinafter cited as "Phillips email 14 November 2003."
  8. [S2203] FMG Medieval Lands Website, online http://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/index.htm, https://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/ENGLAND,%20Kings%201066-1603.htm#HenryIdied1135B.
  9. [S1361] Mike Ashley, The Mammoth Book of British Kings & Queens (New York: Carroll & Graf Publishers, Inc., 1998), p. 511 (Chart 37). Hereinafter cited as Ashley (1998) - British Kings.
  10. [S1438] Miroslav Marek, updated 15 May 2003, Bretagne 4 page (Cournouaille (Cornwall) family): http://genealogy.euweb.cz/bretagne/bretagne4.html
  11. [S1490] Genealogics Website, online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Conon III le Gros: https://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00005945&tree=LEO
  12. [S2203] FMG Medieval Lands Website, online http://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/index.htm, https://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/BRITTANY.htm#ConanIIIdied1148
  13. [S4742] Wikipédia - L'encyclopédie libre, online https://fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikip%C3%A9dia:Accueil_principal, Mathilde FitzRoy: https://fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mathilde_FitzRoy. Hereinafter cited as Wikipédia (FR).
  14. [S1438] Miroslav Marek, updated 15 May 2003, Normandy Family: http://genealogy.euweb.cz/normandy/normandy.html#iMH1
  15. [S1438] Miroslav Marek, updated 15 May 2003, Cournouaille (Cornwall) family (Bretagne 4): http://genealogy.euweb.cz/bretagne/bretagne4.html#C3
  16. [S2203] FMG Medieval Lands Website, online http://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/index.htm, https://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/BRITTANY.htm#ConstanceBretagnedied1148
  17. [S2077] John P. Ravilious, "Ravilious email 3 June 2006: "Re: Brittany was Re: William de Mohun's (d Oct 1193) ancestors," e-mail message from e-mail address (unknown address) to e-mail address, 3 June 2006. Hereinafter cited as "Ravilious email 3 June 2006."
  18. [S1490] Genealogics Website, online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Berthe de Bretagne: https://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00005948&tree=LEO
  19. [S2203] FMG Medieval Lands Website, online http://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/index.htm, https://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/BRITTANY.htm#BertheHeiressBrittanydied1158A

Robert fitz Edith Baron of Okehampton1,2,3,4,5,6

M, #15599, d. 31 May 1172
FatherHenry I "Beauclerc" (?) King of England b. Sep 1068, d. 1 Dec 1135; Phillips cites: Complete Peerage, in Appendix D of volume 11 (1949), by Geoffrey H. White1,7,8,5,4,6
MotherEdith (Eda) Sigulfson de Greystoke1,8,4,5,6 b. c 1071, d. WFT Est. 1087-1165
Last Edited21 Dec 2020
     Robert fitz Edith Baron of Okehampton married Maud d'Avranches Dame du Sap, Lady of Okehampton, daughter of Robert (?) d'Avranches, vicomte d'Avranches, Lord of Okehampton and Havise (?) de Dol, in 1142
;
Her 2nd husband; his 2nd wife.1,9,10,11,5,12
Robert fitz Edith Baron of Okehampton died on 31 May 1172.1,10,6,5
     ; Per Med Lands:
     "MATHILDE d’Avranches ). "Robti filii Henrici Regis" confirmed the donation of "totam vineam quam Robtus fil Baldewini et Ricardus frater eius" to Exeter St Nicholas, with the consent of "Matillidis filiæ Roberti de Avrenchis et heredis Ricardi filii Baldewini", undated[141]. The heirship of Mathilde to “Ricardi filii Baldewini” (who was a member of a younger branch of the Brionne/Eu family, see above) was through her maternal grandmother, who is recorded as a sister of the brothers Robert and Richard. "Robertus filius Regis Henrici" donated "duos ferlingos in manerio meo Calvalegiæ juxta Cobbalegiam" to Exeter St Nicholas, with the consent of "Matillidis de Abrinco uxoris meæ", by charter dated 1162[142]. The parentage of the wife of Robert FitzEdith is confirmed by a claim, dated 1222, which is recorded by Bracton: "Matillis de Curteney" sued "Robertum de Curtenay" concerning "manerium de Ocumptona", "Robertus" claiming that the land was "hereditas Matillidis de Aueregnes" who had "duas filias…Hawisiam matrem suam primogenitam […filia Gaufridi de Crimes primi viri Matillidis de Auerenches] et…Matillidem", while the claimant Matilda asserted that she had the land in question "ex dono Roberti filii Regis patris eiusdem Matillidis et secundi viri predicte Matillidis de Auerenches"[143]. A different parentage is indicated by the Fundationis et Fundatorum Historia of Ford Abbey which records that “domina Alicia uxor domini Randolphi Avenell filia sua…unicam filiam…Matildam” married “Roberto filio regis Henrici primi notho” after the death of her first husband “Roberto de Abrincis id est de Averinges”[144]. Matilda, daughter of Ranulf Avenell, was the mother of Mathilde d’Avranches. The two charters quoted above indicate that this supposed second marriage of Matilda is not correct. The identity of Mathilde’s first husband is uncertain. Bracton’s report of the 1222 lawsuit which is quoted above identifies him as "Gaufridi de Crimes primi viri Matillidis de Auerenches". However, another claim recorded by Bracton, also dated 1222, identifies him differently: "Matillis de Curtenay" claimed against "Robertum de Curtenay" concerning "manerium de Chamelegha", the defendant stating that "Robertus filius Regis…Matillidem de Auerenches uxorem suam" held the land which was inherited by "Hawisie filie sui matri eiusdem Roberti de Curtenay que fuit filia Willelmi de Curcy viri eiusdem Matillidis"[145]. No other information has yet been found which would resolve this inconsistency. Another outstanding point concerns the date of death of Matilda Avenell, as wife of Robert FitzEdith, as reported in the Ford Abbey document. It is assumed that the date does in fact refer to Matilda Avenell and not to Mathilde d’Avranches, although the point is not beyond all doubt. If that is correct, no indication has been found of the date of death of Mathilde d’Avranches.
     "m firstly [GEOFFROY de Crimes/GUILLAUME de Curcy], son of ---.
     "m secondly (before 1162) [as his second wife,] ROBERT FitzRoy, illegitimate son of HENRY I King of England & his mistress Edith --- (-31 May [1172])."
Med Lands cites:
[141] Collectanea Topographica Genealogica, Vol. I, XLVI, List of charters in the cartulary of St Nicholas Priory, at Exeter, 151, p. 188.
[142] Collectanea Topographica Genealogica, Vol. I, XLVI, List of charters in the cartulary of St Nicholas Priory, at Exeter, 341, p. 382.
[143] Bracton’s Note Book, Vol. II, 170, p. 137.
[144] Dugdale Monasticon V, Ford Abbey, Devonshire I, p. 378.
[145] Bracton’s Note Book, Vol. III, 1569, p. 450.12

; Per Racines et Histoire (Avranches): “Maud d’Avranches + 21/09/1173 dame du Sap
     ép. 1) William de Curcy
     ép. 2) 1142 Robert FitzEdith ou FitzRoy + 31/05/1172 (fils bâtard d’Henry 1er et d’Edith of Greystoke)”.5

; This is the same person as ”Robert fitzEdith” at Wikipedia.13 Robert fitz Edith Baron of Okehampton was also known as Robert fitz Roy.14

Reference: Genealogics cites: The Lineage and Ancestry of H.R.H. Prince Charles, Prince of Wales, Edinburgh, 1977, Paget, Gerald, Reference: 12.4

; Per Med Lands:
     "ROBERT FitzEdith [FitzRoy] (-31 May [1172]). Symeon of Durham names "Rodberto filio Edæ et Henrici regis notho"[267]. Guillaume de Jumièges names "Rainaldus, Robertus, Gislebertus" as three illegitimate sons of King Henry I, adding that they were “adhuc iuvenes sine casamero”[268]. Landowner in Devon 1130: the 1129/30 Pipe Roll includes a record accounting for "terra Rob fil Reg" in Devon[269]. He supported his half-sister Empress Matilda during the civil war[270]. “Robertus Henrici regis filius” donated property to Oseney Abbey, Oxfordshire, with the consent of "Henrici de Oleio fratris mei”, by undated charter[271]. "Robertus filius Regis Henrici" donated "duos ferlingos in manerio meo Calvalegiæ juxta Cobbalegiam" to Exeter St Nicholas, with the consent of "Matillidis de Abrinco uxoris meæ", by charter dated 1162[272]. The Red Book of the Exchequer refers to "Robertus filius Regis lix l xvii s i d, et de novo i m" in Devonshire in [1167/68][273]. It is uncertain whether his year of death is accurate as the 1176/77 Pipe Roll names "Robertus filius Regis" in Devonshire[274].
     "[m firstly ---. It should be noted that, assuming the hypothesis concerning the identity of the wife of Robert FitzEdith is correct as outlined below, Mathilde d´Avranches would have been considerably younger than her husband. As noted above, Robert is recorded as a land-owner in the 1129/30 Pipe Roll, while the same document records elsewhere that Mathilde´s father was still married to his first wife at that time. This age difference points to an earlier, otherwise unrecorded, first marriage of Robert which (if it did take place) was presumably childless.]
     "m [secondly] (before 1162) as her second husband, MATHILDE d´Avranches, widow of [GEOFFROY de Crimes/GUILLAUME de Curcy], daughter of ROBERT d´Avranches & his second wife Matilda Avenell. "Robti filii Henrici Regis" confirmed the donation of "totam vineam quam Robtus fil Baldewini et Ricardus frater eius" to Exeter St Nicholas, with the consent of "Matillidis filiæ Roberti de Avrenchis et heredis Ricardi filii Baldewini", undated[275]. The heirship of Mathilde to “Ricardi filii Baldewini” (who was a member of a younger branch of the Brionne/Eu family, see the document NORMANDY NOBILITY) was through her maternal grandmother, who is recorded as a sister of the brothers Robert and Richard. "Robertus filius Regis Henrici" donated "duos ferlingos in manerio meo Calvalegiæ juxta Cobbalegiam" to Exeter St Nicholas, with the consent of "Matillidis de Abrinco uxoris meæ", by charter dated 1162[276]. The parentage of the wife of Robert FitzEdith is confirmed by a claim, dated 1222, which is recorded by Bracton: "Matillis de Curteney" sued "Robertum de Curtenay" concerning "manerium de Ocumptona", "Robertus" claiming that the land was "hereditas Matillidis de Aueregnes" who had "duas filias…Hawisiam matrem suam primogenitam […filia Gaufridi de Crimes primi viri Matillidis de Auerenches] et…Matillidem", while the claimant Matilda asserted that she had the land in question "ex dono Roberti filii Regis patris eiusdem Matillidis et secundi viri predicte Matillidis de Auerenches"[277]. A different parentage is indicated by the Fundationis et Fundatorum Historia of Ford Abbey which records that “domina Alicia uxor domini Randolphi Avenell filia sua…unicam filiam…Matildam” married “Roberto filio regis Henrici primi notho” after the death of her first husband “Roberto de Abrincis id est de Averinges”, and died “IX Kal Oct 1173”[278]. Matilda, daughter of Ranulf Avenell, was the mother of Mathilde d´Avranches. The two charters quoted above indicate that this supposed second marriage of Matilda is not correct. The identity of Mathilde´s first husband is uncertain. Bracton´s report of the 1222 lawsuit which is quoted above identifies him as "Gaufridi de Crimes primi viri Matillidis de Auerenches". However, another claim recorded by Bracton, also dated 1222, identifies him differently: "Matillis de Curtenay" claimed against "Robertum de Curtenay" concerning "manerium de Chamelegha", the defendant stating that "Robertus filius Regis…Matillidem de Auerenches uxorem suam" held the land which was inherited by "Hawisie filie sui matri eiusdem Roberti de Curtenay que fuit filia Willelmi de Curcy viri eiusdem Matillidis"[279]. No other information has yet been found which would resolve this inconsistency. Another outstanding point concerns the date of death of Matilda Avenell, as wife of Robert FitzEdith, as reported in the Ford Abbey document. It is assumed that the date does in fact refer to Matilda Avenell and not to Mathilde d´Avranches, although the point is not beyond all doubt. If that is correct, no indication has been found of the date of death of Mathilde d´Avranches."
Med Lands cites:
[267] Simeon of Durham, Vol. II, p. 310, quoted in CP XI Appendix D, p. 108 footnote f.
[268] Willelmi Gemmetencis Historiæ (Du Chesne, 1619), Liber VIII, XXIX, p. 306.
[269] Pipe Roll 31 Hen I (1129/30), Devon, p. 152.
[270] CP XI Appendix D, 109.
[271] Dugdale Monasticon VI, Oseney Abbey, Oxfordshire, VI, p. 253.
[272] Collectanea Topographica Genealogica, Vol. I, XLVI, List of charters in the cartulary of St Nicholas Priory, at Exeter, 341, p. 382.
[273] Red Book Exchequer, Part I, Knights fees, p. 42.
[274] Pipe Roll 23 Hen II (1176/77), Devonshire, p. 3.
[275] Collectanea Topographica Genealogica, Vol. I, XLVI, List of charters in the cartulary of St Nicholas Priory, at Exeter, 151, p. 188.
[276] Collectanea Topographica Genealogica, Vol. I, XLVI, List of charters in the cartulary of St Nicholas Priory, at Exeter, 341, p. 382.
[277] Bracton’s Note Book, Vol. II, 170, p. 137.
[278] Dugdale Monasticon V, Ford Abbey, Devonshire I, p. 378.
[279] Bracton’s Note Book, Vol. III, 1569, p. 450.5

Citations

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  14. [S1396] Burke's Peerage & Gentry Web Site, online http://www.burkes-peerage.net/sites/peerageandgentry/sitepages/home.asp, de Courtenay Family Page. Hereinafter cited as Burke's Peerage & Gentry Web Site.

Edith (?)1,2

F, #15600
Last Edited19 Dec 2020
     ; Per Med Lands:
     "HENRY of England, son of WILLIAM I "the Conqueror" King of England & his wife Mathilde de Flandre ([Selby, Yorkshire Sep 1068]-Château de Lyon-la-Forêt, near Rouen 1 Dec 1135, bur Reading Abbey, Berkshire[123]). Orderic Vitalis names “Rotbertum...et Ricardum, Willermum et Henricum” as the sons of “Willermus Normanniæ dux” and his wife “Mathildem Balduini ducis Flandrensium filiam, neptem...ex sorore Henrici regis Francorum”[124]. Guillaume of Jumièges records that Duke Guillaume and his wife “Balduinum Flandriæ comitem...filiam regali ex genere descendente...Mathilde” had “filios quatuor Robertum...Willelmum...Richardum...et Henricum”, adding that Henry succeeded his brothers “tam Regi, quam Duci”[125]. Orderic Vitalis records that “Mathildem conjugem suam” gave birth to “filium...Henricum” within one year of her coronation in May 1068[126]. Comte de Coutances: Orderic Vitalis records that “Henricus Clito Constantiniensis comes” visited England to request “terram matris suæ” from his brother King William II, dated to [1088][127]. Guillaume of Jumièges records that ”Henricus” reconquered “comitatum Constantiniensem”, which had been taken from him, with the help of “Richardi de Revers et Rogerii de Magna-villa...Hugo comes Cestrensis”[128]. Orderic Vitalis records that “Henricus clito” governed “Abrincas et Cæsarisburgum et Constantiam atque Guabreium” [Avranches, Cherbourg, Coutances, Gavray][129]. Seigneur de Domfront 1092: Orderic Vitalis records that “Henricus Guillelmi regis filius” captured “Danfrontem oppidum” in 1092[130]. He succeeded his brother 3 Aug 1100 as HENRY I “Beauclerc” King of England, taking prompt action to ensure his succession by taking control of the royal treasure at Winchester. Florence of Worcester records that "iunior frater suus Heinricus" succeeded King William II and was crowned "Non Aug" in Westminster Abbey[131]. Orderic Vitalis records that he was crowned at Westminster Abbey 5 Aug 1100[132]. He married the niece of the last Saxon claimant to the throne of England to appease the English. After consolidating his position in England, he crossed the Channel to subdue Normandy in 1105[133]. He defeated his brother Robert at Tinchebrai and declared himself Duke of Normandy 28 Sep 1106. Henry turned his attention to strengthening the position of the crown in the newly united country, creating the Exchequer to improve control over finances, and ensuring that his own supporters filled the potentially powerful positions of county sheriffs. However, tensions increased with the barons, setting the scene for the civil war which followed Henry's death, his male heir having drowned in the White Ship disaster in 1120. The Chronicæ Sancti Albini records the death "1135 III Non Dec" of "Henricus rex Angliæ"[134]. The Continuator of Florence of Worcester records the death "IV Non Dec" in [1135] and his burial at Reading[135]. The necrology of the abbey of Saint-Denis records the death "IV Non Dec" of "Henricus rex Anglorum"[136]. William of Newburgh records the burial of King Henry I "apud Radingam in monasterio"[137].
     "m firstly (Westminster Abbey 11 Nov 1100) EADGYTH of Scotland, daughter of MALCOLM III "Caennmor/Bighead" King of Scotland & his wife Margaret of England (1079-Palace of Westminster 1 May 1118, bur Westminster Abbey[138]). Orderic Vitalis records that their mother sent Eadgyth and her sister Mary to be brought up by her sister Christina, nun at Romsey Abbey[139]. Florence of Worcester records the marriage of King Henry and "regis Scottorum Malcolmi et Margaretæ reginæ filiam Mahtildem" and her coronation as queen in a passage dealing with events in late 1100[140]. She adopted the name MATILDA on her marriage. Orderic Vitalis records that King Henry I married “Mathildem quæ prius dicta est Edith”[141]. Crowned Queen Consort 11 or 14 Nov 1100. The necrology of the abbey of Saint-Denis records the death "Kal Mai" of "Matildis Anglorum regina"[142]. The Continuator of Florence of Worcester records the death "Kal Mai " at Westminster of "Mahthildis regina Anglorum", and her burial at Westminster Abbey[143].
     "m secondly (Royal Chapel, Windsor Castle 29 Jan or 2 Feb 1121) ADELISA de Louvain, daughter of GODEFROI V "le Barbu" Duke of Lower Lotharingia, Comte de Louvain & his first wife Ida de Chiny Ctss de Namur ([1103/06]-Afflighem Abbey 23/24 Mar or 23 Apr 1151, bur Afflighem Abbey). The Continuator of Florence of Worcester records the marriage "IV Kal Feb" [1121] of King Henry and "Atheleidem filiam Godefridi ducis Lotharingæ puellam virginem" and her coronation as queen "III Kal Feb"[144]. Orderic Vitalis names her and her father[145]. William of Newburgh records the second marriage of King Henry I and "filiam ducis Lotharingie", noting that the marriage was childless[146]. The Genealogia Ducum Brabantiæ Heredum Franciæ names (in order) "Alaida…Anglorum regina…comitissa de Cleves Ida…[et] Clarissia virgo" as the three daughters of "Godefridus Cum-barba"[147]. The Balduini Ninovensis Chronicon records the marriage of "Henricus rex Anglorum" and "Athelam filiam Godefridi ducis Lotharingie" in 1121[148]. She was crowned Queen Consort at Westminster Abbey 30 Jan or 3 Feb 1121. The Continuatio Chronici Afflegemiensis records that “Godefridus cum barba Dux Lotharingiæ…filia…Aleidis” married “Regi Angliæ” in 1121[149]. The castle and honour of Arundel was settled on Queen Adelisa after her first husband died. She married secondly ([1136/Sep 1139]) William d’Aubigny [de Albini], who was created Earl of Arundel soon after his marriage. Robert of Torigny records that "Willermi de Albinaio quem vocant comitem de Arundel" married "Aelizam reginam relictam Henrici senioris regis Anglorum"[150]. Adelisa became a nun at Affleghem Abbey, near Aalst in Brabant in 1149/50. The Annals of Margan record the death in 1151 of “Adelidis, regina secunda Henrici regis”[151]. The Continuatio Chronici Afflegemiensis records that “Godefridus cum barba Dux Lotharingiæ…filia…Aleidis” died “IX Kal Mai” and was buried at Afflighem after the death of her second husband[152]. The necrology of Lyre monastery records the death "25 Mar" of "Adelicia regina"[153].
     "Mistress (1): ---, a woman from Caen. The name of King Henry's first mistress is not known. Her origin is assumed because her son is styled "Robertus de Cadomo " by Orderic Vitalis. A possible family connection of hers is suggested by the undated charter, arranged with charters dated 1127/28 in the compilation, under which Henry I King of England confirmed an exchange of property between the abbot of Fécamp and "Nigello filio Willelmi, nepote Roberti comitis Gloecestrie filii mei", "Nigellus" donating property "in villa Fiscanni habuit et avus et pater eius"[154]. The wording of the document is incompatible with "Willelmi" being another son of King Henry I. The relationship with Robert Earl of Gloucester must presumably therefore be established through Robert´s mother. The alternatives appear to be that William, father of Nigel, was the son of Robert´s mother by a later marriage (and therefore uterine half-brother of Earl Robert), that William´s wife was her daughter by a later marriage (uterine half-sister of Earl Robert), or that the word nepos denotes a more remote blood relationship and that Nigel was the first or second cousin of Earl Robert. Another relative of Robert Earl of Gloucester was Christiana, who married, as his first wife, William FitzAlan. Orderic Vitalis records that "William fitz Alan castellan and vicecomes of Shrewsbury" married "a niece of Robert Earl of Gloucester"[155]. "William Fitz Alan" donated the fishery of Upton-upon-Severn to Haughmond abbey by undated charter, witnessed by "Walter his brother, Christiana his wife…"[156].
     "Mistress (2): EDITH, daughter of ---. The 1130 Pipe Roll records "Walterus de tribus Minetis" holding land of "Edith matris comitisse de Ptico" in Devonshire[157].
     "Mistress (3): ANSFRIDE, widow of ANSKILL, daughter of --- (-bur Abingdon Abbey). The Chronicle of Abingdon names "Anskillus" and "uxore Anskilli iam defuncti…filio eius…Willelmo" adding that "fratrem regis Henricum" was father of her son "Ricardum", in a later passage naming her "Ansfrida" when recording her death and the donation of the mill at Langford by "Willelmus filius eiusdem…de Anskillo marito suo" for her burial at Abingdon[158]. Her husband was a knight, tenant of Abingdon Abbey, who died following a few days of harsh treatment after being imprisoned by King William II.
     "[Mistress (4): ---. The Complete Peerage suggests that the mother of Sibyl Queen of Scotland was Sibyl Corbet[159], who is shown below as Mistress (5). As explained more fully below under her daughter Queen Sibyl, this suggestion is not ideal from a chronological point of view. In summary, Sibyl Corbet´s son, Renaud Earl of Cornwall, was probably not born before [1110] considering that his marriage is dated to [1141]. If that is correct, the only way in which he could have had the same mother as the queen of Scotland would be if the latter was a young girl at the time of her marriage. In addition, the birth of Herbert FitzHerbert, son of Sibyl Corbet by her marriage, is estimated to [1125/35] (see the document UNTITLED ENGLISH NOBILITY D-K), which appears incompatible with Sibyl also having been the mother of Queen Sibyl. On the other hand, "Robert Corbet" witnessed charters in Scotland which are dated to the reign of King Alexander and the early years of the reign of his brother King David (see UNTITLED ENGLISH NOBILITY A-C). If Robert Corbet had been Queen Sibyl´s maternal grandfather or her maternal uncle, this could account for his presence at the Scottish court at the time.]
     "Mistress (5): SIBYL Corbet, daughter of ROBERT Corbet of Alcester, co Warwick & his [first] wife --- ([1090/95]-after 1157). The Complete Peerage deduces her parentage, relationship with King Henry, and her marriage from a charter, dated to [1163/75], under which her son "Reginaldus, Henrici Regis filius, comes Cornubiæ" granted property to "Willielmo de Boterell, filio Aliziæ Corbet, materteræ meæ" which he had granted to "Willielmo de Boterells in Cornubia, patri…predicti Willielmi" on his marriage, witnessed by "Nicholao filio meo…Herberto filio Herberti, Baldwino et Ricardo nepotibus meis, Willelmo de Vernun, Willielmo fratre meo…Hugone de Dunstanvill…"[160]. She married ([1115/25]) Herbert FitzHerbert. The [1125/35] birth date range estimated for her son Herbert, born from this marriage, indicates that she married after her relationship with the king. The Pipe Roll of 1157 records a payment to "the mother of Earl Reginald" from an estate at Mienes, Sussex[161].
     "Mistress (6): EDITH, daughter of ---. Symeon of Durham names "Rodberto filio Edæ et Henrici regis notho"[162]. The Complete Peerage[163] identifies her as the probable daughter of Forn Sigurdson Lord of Greystoke, Cumberland. If this is correct, she married Robert de Oilly of Hook Norton, constable of Oxford Castle, son of Nigel [III] de Oilly of Hook Norton, Oxfordshire & his wife Agnes --- (-1142). The suggestion is presumably based on the undated charter under which “Robertus Henrici regis filius” donated property to Oseney Abbey, Oxfordshire, with the consent of "Henrici de Oleio fratris mei”[164]. However, “Editha, Roberto de Oilly conjugali copula juncta” donated property to Thame Abbey, for the souls of “Henrici et Gilberti filiorum meorum”, by undated charter witnessed by “Fulco de Oilly, Fulco Luval, Henrico filio Roberti filii Aumari”[165]. If Edith, wife of Robert de Oilly, was the same person as the mother of King Henry´s son Robert, it is unclear why she would not have named her son Robert in this charter.
     "Mistresses (7) - (12): ---. The names of these mistresses of King Henry are not known.
     "Mistress (13): NESTA of South Wales, wife of GERALD FitzWalter of Windsor custodian of Pembroke Castle, daughter of RHYS ap Tewdwr Prince of South Wales & his wife Gwladus ---. Giraldus Cambrensis names "Henricus…regi Henrici primi filius…ex nobili Nesta, Resi filii Theodori filia" in South Wales[166]. She was abducted by Owain son of Cadwgan ap Bleddyn from castle Ceanrth Bychan in 1109.
     "Mistresses (14): ---. The name of this mistress of King Henry is not known.
     "Mistress (15): ISABELLE de Beaumont, daughter of ROBERT de Beaumont Comte de Meulan, Earl of Leicester & his wife Isabelle de Vermandois ([1102/07]-). Guillaume de Jumièges records one illegitimate daughter of King Henry I as daughter of "Elizabeth sorore Waleranni comitis Mellenti"[167]. She married Gilbert FitzGilbert de Clare Earl of Pembroke. Guillaume de Jumièges records that "Giselbertus filius Gisleberti" married “sororem Waleranni comitis Mellenti...Elizabeth” by whom he had “filium primogenitum...Richardum”[168]. Henry II King of England confirmed the donations to the nuns of Saint-Saens by "Isabel comitissa qui fuit uxor Gilleberti comitis" by charter dated to [1172/1182][169]."
Med Lands cites:
[123] Orderic Vitalis, Vol. VI, Book XIII, pp. 449-51.
[124] Orderic Vitalis (Prévost), Vol. II, Liber III, VI, p. 92.
[125] Willelmi Gemmetencis Historiæ (Du Chesne, 1619), Liber VII, XXI, p. 277.
[126] Orderic Vitalis (Prévost), Vol. II, Liber IV, IV, p. 182.
[127] Orderic Vitalis (Prévost), Vol. III, Liber VIII, IV, p. 291.
[128] Willelmi Gemmetencis Historiæ (Du Chesne, 1619), Liber VIII, IV, p. 294.
[129] Orderic Vitalis (Prévost), Vol. III, Liber VIII, XV, p. 350.
[130] Orderic Vitalis (Prévost), Vol. III, Liber VIII, XIX, p. 384.
[131] Florentii Wigornensis Monachi Chronicon, p. 46.
[132] Orderic Vitalis, Vol. V, Book X, p. 295.
[133] Florence of Worcester, 1105, p. 213.
[134] Chronicæ sancti Albini Andegavensis, p. 34.
[135] Florentii Wigornensis Monachi Chronicon, Continuatio, p. 95.
[136] Obituaires de Sens Tome I.1, Abbaye de Saint-Denis, p. 332.
[137] William of Newburgh, I.III, p. 30.
[138] Florence of Worcester (Continuation), 1118, p. 229.
[139] Orderic Vitalis, Vol. IV, Book VIII, p. 273.
[140] Florentii Wigornensis Monachi Chronicon, p. 47.
[141] Orderic Vitalis (Prévost), Vol. III, Liber VIII, XXII, p. 400.
[142] Obituaires de Sens Tome I.1, Abbaye de Saint-Denis, p. 316.
[143] Florentii Wigornensis Monachi Chronicon, Continuatio, p. 71.
[144] Florentii Wigornensis Monachi Chronicon, Continuatio, p. 75.
[145] Orderic Vitalis, Vol. VI, Book XII, p. 309.
[146] William of Newburgh I.III, p. 29.
[147] Genealogia Ducum Brabantiæ Heredum Franciæ 6, MGH SS XXV, p. 390.
[148] Balduini Ninovensis Chronicon 1121, MGH SS XXV, p. 527.
[149] Continuatio Chronici Afflegemiensis, Spicilegium II, p. 777.
[150] Robert de Torigny, Vol. II, p. 19.
[151] Annales de Margan, p. 14.
[152] Continuatio Chronici Afflegemiensis, Spicilegium II, p. 777.
[153] RHGF XXIII, Ex Obituario Lirensis monasterii, p. 471.
[154] Regesta Regem Anglo-Normannorum, Vol. II, Appendix, CCXI, p. 362.
[155] Eyton (1858), Vol. VII, p. 233.
[156] Eyton (1858), Vol. VII, p. 285, citing Haughmond Chartulary, fo. 168, Tit. Preston.
[157] Pipe Roll 31 Hen I (1129/30), Devonshire, p. 155.
[158] Chronicon Monasterii de Abingdon, Vol. II, pp. 37 and 122.
[159] CP XI Appendix D, p. 118.
[160] CP XI Appendix D, p. 108 footnote a citing Cartæ Antiquæ, P. R. S., no. 38, the charter quoted in full in Eyton, R. W. (1858) Antiquities of Shropshire (London), Vol. VII, p. 157.
[161] Eyton (1858), Vol. VII, p. 146.
[162] Simeon of Durham, Vol. II, p. 310, quoted in CP XI Appendix D, p. 108 footnote f.
[163] CP XI Appendix D, p. 108.
[164] Dugdale Monasticon VI, Oseney Abbey, Oxfordshire, VI, p. 253.
[165] Dugdale Monasticon V, Thame Abbey, Oxfordshire, III, p. 404.
[166] Giraldus Cambrensis, Itinerarium Kambriæ, Rolls Series, p. 130, quoted in CP XI Appendix D, p. 110 footnote a.
[167] Willelmi Gemmetencis Historiæ (Du Chesne, 1619), Liber VIII, XXIX, p. 307.
[168] Willelmi Gemmetencis Historiæ (Du Chesne, 1619), Liber VIII, XXXVII, p. 312.
[169] Actes Henri II, Tome II, DLXXVI, p. 161.3
Edith (?) and Henry I "Beauclerc" (?) King of England were associated; Mistress.3

Family

Henry I "Beauclerc" (?) King of England b. Sep 1068, d. 1 Dec 1135
Child

Citations

  1. Boyer (pp. 183-185, NORMANDY 8): "Child, by Edith, who has not been identified otherwise."
  2. [S757] Compiled by Carl Boyer 3rd, Medieval English Ancestors of Certain Americans: Many of the English Ancestral Lines Prior to 1300 of those Colonial Americans with known Royal Ancestry but Fully Developed in all Possible Lines (PO Box 220333, Santa Clarita, CA 91322-0333: Carl Boyer 3rd, 2001), pp. 183-185, NORMANDY 8. Hereinafter cited as Boyer [2001] Med English Ancestors.
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