Sigram (?) of Hesbaye1,2

M, #71251
FatherSigramnus (?) Count of Hesbaye1,2
MotherLandrade (?)1,3
ReferenceGAV34
Last Edited5 Dec 2020
     GAV-34.

Family

Child

Citations

  1. [S1953] Wikipedia: The Free Encyclopedia, online http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Main_Page, https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sigramnus,_Count_of_Hesbaye. Hereinafter cited as Wikipedia.
  2. [S2203] Foundation for Medieval Genealogy (FMG): MEDIEVAL LANDS - A prosopography of medieval European noble and royal families, online http://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/index.htm, https://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/FRANKISH%20NOBILITY.htm#_Toc371156047. Hereinafter cited as FMG Medieval Lands Website.
  3. [S1549] "Author's comment", various, Gregory A. Vaut (e-mail address), to unknown recipient (unknown recipient address), 5 Dec 2020; unknown repository, unknown repository address. Hereinafter cited as "GA Vaut Comment."
  4. [S1953] Wikipedia, online http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Main_Page, https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ingerman,_Count_of_Hesbaye.
  5. [S2203] FMG Medieval Lands Website, online http://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/index.htm, https://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/FRANKISH%20NOBILITY.htm#Ermengardisdied818

Mathilde (?)1

F, #71253
Last Edited29 Jun 2020

Citations

  1. [S2280] Racines et Histoire, online http://racineshistoire.free.fr/LGN/LGN-frameset.html, http://racineshistoire.free.fr/LGN/PDF/Nanteuil-Le-Haudouin.pdf, p. 2. Hereinafter cited as Racines et Histoire.
  2. [S2280] Racines et Histoire, online http://racineshistoire.free.fr/LGN/LGN-frameset.html, Seigneurs de NanteuilLe-Haudouin, p. 2: http://racineshistoire.free.fr/LGN/PDF/Nanteuil-Le-Haudouin.pdf
  3. [S2203] Foundation for Medieval Genealogy (FMG): MEDIEVAL LANDS - A prosopography of medieval European noble and royal families, online http://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/index.htm, https://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/parclerdam.htm#ThibautIIICrepyNanteuildied1183. Hereinafter cited as FMG Medieval Lands Website.

Gilles (?) comte de Duras, Montaigu et Clermont1

M, #71254, d. before 1193
Last Edited24 Jul 2020
     Gilles (?) comte de Duras, Montaigu et Clermont married Laurette/Adelheid (?) von Looz, Dame de Longwy, daughter of Ludwig/Louis I (?) Graf von Looz und Rieneck, Burggraf of Mainz and Agnes von Metz, in 1174
;
Her 1st husband.1,2,3,4 Gilles (?) comte de Duras, Montaigu et Clermont and Laurette/Adelheid (?) von Looz, Dame de Longwy were divorced in 1174.1,2,3
Gilles (?) comte de Duras, Montaigu et Clermont died before 1193.5
      ; Per Med Lands: "LAURETTE (-before 1184). The Genealogica ex Stirpe Sancti Arnulfi names "Loreta filia comitis de Los" as wife of "Theobaldus comes de Monceons"[887]. The Chronicle of Alberic de Trois-Fontaines names "Loretam filiam comitis Ludovici, sororem comitis Geraudi Losensis dyocesis Leodiensis" as first wife of "comes Barri Theobaldus"[888]. The primary source which confirms her first marriage has not yet been identified. Heiress of Longwy. m firstly (divorced 1174) GILLES Comte de Duras, de Montaigu et de Clermont, son of GODEFROI Comte de Montaigu, de Clermont et de Duras & his wife Juliane de Duras (-before 1193). m secondly ([1176]) as his first wife, THIBAUT de Bar Seigneur de Briey, Steinay and Longwy, son of RENAUD II Comte de Bar & his wife Agnes de Blois ([1160]-12/13 Feb 1214, bur Saint-Mihiel). He succeeded his brother in 1190 as THIBAUT I Comte de Bar."
Med Lands cites:
[887] Genealogica ex Stirpe Sancti Arnulfi descendentium Mettensis 3, MGH SS XXV, p. 383.
[888] Chronica Albrici Monachi Trium Fontium 1214, MGH SS XXIII, p. 899.3


; See entry on Med Lands.5

Reference: Genealogics cites: Europäische Stammtafeln, J.A. Stargardt Verlag, Marburg, Schwennicke, Detlev (Ed.) 6:60.6

; Per Wikipedia:
     "Gilles (Ægidius) (died before 1193), was Count of Montaigu and Clermont, Count of Duras, son of Count Godefried of Montaigu, and his wife Juliane, daughter of Count Otto of Duras. Gilles was also Seigneur of Rochefort, Seigneur of Jodoigne and advocate of Saint-Trond.
     "In 1174, Gilles married Laurette de Looz, daughter of Louis I, Count of Looz, and his wife Agnes von Metz. They divorced childless in 1176.
     "Gilles contracted leprosy, giving up most of his lands to his brothers Conon and Pierre. [1][2] Gilles was succeeded as Count of Montaigu, Clermont and Duras by his brother Conon, possibly as early as 1175. In a charter dated 1175 donating property to the Knights Hospitaller, Gilles is referred to as former count and his brothers Pierre and Conon as Counts of Montaigu and Duras, respectively. He kept the lordship of Jodoigne and was then at least once referred to as count of Jodoigne. (His mother had also referred to herself as countess of Jodoigne.[3]
     "Leprosy, however, was not the end of his military life, as Gislebert of Mons as he and his brother Conon fought the duke of Louvain, for seizing Duras and Jodoigne, his only remaining allod. They were able to recover Duras. Moreover, he writes of his capture in the town of Namur by Baldwin V, Count of Hainaut, who held him captive for a long time. Gilles and his brothers prepared to go on crusade, though Gilles probably never went ahead with this plan. None of the brothers had heirs, and so arrangements were made for their possessions.
References
1. Chronicle of Hainaut by Gilbert of Mons, translated Laura Napran (Boydell, 2005) ISBN 1-84383-120-1 google
2. "Experiences of Charity 1250-1650," Anne M. Scott (Routledge, 2016) ch.3
3. Hanon de Louvet Vol.1 p.71
Sources
** Hanon de Louvet (1941) Histoire de la Ville de Jodoigne
** Wolters, Joseph Mathias, Notice Historique sur l’Ancien Comté de Duras en Hesbaie, Gyselinck, 1855 (available on Google Books)
External link
** Medieval Lands Project, Comtes de Montaigu: http://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/LOTHARINGIAN%20(LOWER)%20NOBILITY.htm#GodefroiMontaigudied1161.4 " Gilles (?) comte de Duras, Montaigu et Clermont was also known as Egidius de Montaigu.6

Family

Laurette/Adelheid (?) von Looz, Dame de Longwy b. bt 1150 - 1155, d. b 1184

Citations

  1. [S2280] Racines et Histoire, online http://racineshistoire.free.fr/LGN/LGN-frameset.html, http://racineshistoire.free.fr/LGN/PDF/Bar.pdf, p. 4. Hereinafter cited as Racines et Histoire.
  2. [S1490] Genealogics Website (oiginated by Leo van de Pas, continued by Ian Fettes), online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Laurette de Looz: https://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00026499&tree=LEO. Hereinafter cited as Genealogics Website.
  3. [S2203] Foundation for Medieval Genealogy (FMG): MEDIEVAL LANDS - A prosopography of medieval European noble and royal families, online http://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/index.htm, https://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/LOTHARINGIAN%20(LOWER)%20NOBILITY.htm#LauretteLoozdiedbefore1184. Hereinafter cited as FMG Medieval Lands Website.
  4. [S1953] Wikipedia: The Free Encyclopedia, online http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Main_Page, https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gilles,_Count_of_Montaigu. Hereinafter cited as Wikipedia.
  5. [S2203] FMG Medieval Lands Website, online http://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/index.htm, http://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/LOTHARINGIAN%20(LOWER)%20NOBILITY.htm#GodefroiMontaigudied1161
  6. [S1490] Genealogics Website, online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Egidius de Montaigu: https://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00165099&tree=LEO

Havide/Havidis (?) de Bar1

F, #71255
FatherRenaud/Reinald II 'Le Jeune' (?) Comte de Bar, Mousson et Brie1 b. c 1115, d. 25 Jul 1170
MotherAgnès de Blois de Champagne, dame de Ligny-en-Barrois1 b. 1138, d. 7 Aug 1207
Last Edited15 May 2009
      ; abesse de Clairefontaine.1

Citations

  1. [S2280] Racines et Histoire, online http://racineshistoire.free.fr/LGN/LGN-frameset.html, http://racineshistoire.free.fr/LGN/PDF/Nanteuil-Le-Haudouin.pdf, p. 2. Hereinafter cited as Racines et Histoire.

Nicolas de Quievrain seigneur de Quievrain1

M, #71256
Last Edited15 May 2009

Family

Child

Citations

  1. [S2280] Racines et Histoire, online http://racineshistoire.free.fr/LGN/LGN-frameset.html, http://racineshistoire.free.fr/LGN/PDF/Bar.pdf, p. 6. Hereinafter cited as Racines et Histoire.

Charles de Bar1

M, #71257
FatherThibault/Theobald II de Bar Comte de Bar-le-Duc, Brie et Saint-Fargeau, seigneur de Torcy1 b. c 1221, d. Oct 1291
MotherJeanne/Joanna de Montmorency dame de Toucy, Saint-Fargeau et Puisaye1 b. a 1231, d. c 1317
Last Edited15 May 2009
     Charles de Bar died; died young.1

Citations

  1. [S2280] Racines et Histoire, online http://racineshistoire.free.fr/LGN/LGN-frameset.html, http://racineshistoire.free.fr/LGN/PDF/Bar.pdf, p. 7. Hereinafter cited as Racines et Histoire.

Philippe de Bar archdiacre de Saarburt, postule a Metz1

M, #71259
FatherThibault/Theobald II de Bar Comte de Bar-le-Duc, Brie et Saint-Fargeau, seigneur de Torcy1 b. c 1221, d. Oct 1291
MotherJeanne/Joanna de Montmorency dame de Toucy, Saint-Fargeau et Puisaye1 b. a 1231, d. c 1317
Last Edited15 May 2009

Citations

  1. [S2280] Racines et Histoire, online http://racineshistoire.free.fr/LGN/LGN-frameset.html, http://racineshistoire.free.fr/LGN/PDF/Bar.pdf, p. 7. Hereinafter cited as Racines et Histoire.

Eléonore de Bar1

F, #71260
FatherHenri III de Bar Comte de Bar, Seigneur de Torcy en Brie, graf von Nassau1 b. 1259, d. Sep 1302
MotherEleanor (?) Princess of England1 b. 18 Jun 1269, d. 29 Aug 1298
Last Edited15 May 2009

Citations

  1. [S2280] Racines et Histoire, online http://racineshistoire.free.fr/LGN/LGN-frameset.html, http://racineshistoire.free.fr/LGN/PDF/Bar.pdf, p. 8. Hereinafter cited as Racines et Histoire.

Béatrice de Bar1

F, #71261
FatherEdouard I de Bar Comte de Bar, seigneur de la Puisaye1 b. 1296, d. 11 Nov 1336
MotherMarie (?) de Bourgogne1 b. 1298, d. b 1336
Last Edited15 May 2009
     Béatrice de Bar married Guido I Gonzaga Signore di Mantova.1,2

Family

Guido I Gonzaga Signore di Mantova b. 1290, d. 22 Sep 1369

Citations

  1. [S2280] Racines et Histoire, online http://racineshistoire.free.fr/LGN/LGN-frameset.html, http://racineshistoire.free.fr/LGN/PDF/Bar.pdf, p. 8. Hereinafter cited as Racines et Histoire.
  2. [S1953] Wikipedia: The Free Encyclopedia, online http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Main_Page, Guido Gonzaga: http://it.wikipedia.org/wiki/Guido_Gonzaga. Hereinafter cited as Wikipedia.

Eramberge (Eramburge, Erneburge) (?)1

F, #71262
ReferenceGAV29
Last Edited26 Aug 2009
     Eramberge (Eramburge, Erneburge) (?) married Raoul (?) d'Ivry, comte de Bayeux et châtelain d’Ivry, son of Esperleng (Asperling, L’ «Eperlan») (?) de Pîtres and AdelaSprote (?) de Bretagne,
; his 2nd wife.1
     GAV-29.

Citations

  1. [S2280] Racines et Histoire, online http://racineshistoire.free.fr/LGN/LGN-frameset.html, http://racineshistoire.free.fr/LGN/PDF/Bayeux-Ivry.pdf, p. 2. Hereinafter cited as Racines et Histoire.

Hugues (?) d'Ivry, comte d'Ivry, évêque de Bayeux1

M, #71263
FatherRaoul (?) d'Ivry, comte de Bayeux et châtelain d’Ivry1 b. c 945, d. c 1015
MotherAuberée (Alberède) de Caux1 b. c 960, d. b 1011
Last Edited16 May 2009
     ; NB: There is uncertainty about the parents of Roger I de Mortemer.
I. Med Lands: A discussion of the issues is found in Med Lands:
     "According to the Complete Peerage, Roger [I] de Mortemer came from Mortemer-sur-Eaulne, near Neufchâtel-en-Brai (upstream of Dieppe on the river Béthune, in the eastern part of the Pays de Caux) in Normandy, which it says must be distinguished from "Mortemer-en-Lions, the site of the abbey of the same name"[213]. Le Prévost is more specific, stating that he was from "Mortemer-en-Brai, sur la rivière d´Eaulne" and adding "on voit encore l´emplacement du château" (writing in 1840)[214]. Roger [I] is recorded by Orderic Vitalis as having led "omnes Caletenses" (from the Pays de Caux) at the battle of Mortemer against the French in 1054 but that his castle was confiscated after he had helped the escape of one of the French prisoners[215]. Although Roger was later reconciled with the king and recovered some of his lands, the castle of Mortemer remained with the Warenne family. The descendants of Roger [I] continued to bear the name "Mortimer", derived from the castle, despite its early confiscation.
     "There has been considerable debate about the ancestry of Roger [I] de Mortemer. The first question relates to the possible relationship between Roger [I] de Mortemer and William de Warenne 1st Earl of Surrey. This issue is discussed in the Complete Peerage which concludes that "its exact nature has not at present been discovered"[216]. The fact of the family relationship is indicated by Orderic Vitalis who, in a passage recounting an alleged death-bed speech of William I King of England, records that the castle of Mortemer, confiscated from Roger [I] de Mortemer after the battle of Mortemer in 1054, was granted to "Guillelmo de Guarenna consanguineo eius"[217]. In addition to this, Robert de Torigny, in his description of abbeys in Normandy, records that "Rogerius de Mortuo Mari, filius Walterii de Sancto Martino, frater vero primi Willermi de Warenna" founded "monasterium Sancti Victoris"[218]. A third source, Guillaume of Jumièges records that “nepotes...plures...Gunnor...una earum” married “patri primi Willelmi de Warenna” by whom she had “idem Willelmus postea comes Surreiæ et Rogerus de Mortuo-mari frater ipsius” [although an undated charter quoted in the document NORMANDY NOBILITY, which records a sale of property by “Hugo de Flamenvilla”, indicates that Raoul´s second wife was the mother of his son Guillaume][219]. The second source is clearly incorrect as regards the parentage of William de Warenne, whose father is confirmed in other primary sources as Raoul de Warenne (see the document NORMANDY NOBILITY, WARENNE). It is also clear that Roger [I] de Mortemer (already holder of a castle in 1054) must have been considerably older than William de Warenne, and so could hardly have been his brother. Stapleton proposed in 1846 that Roger [I] de Mortimer and Raoul de Warenne, father of William de Warenne 1st Earl of Surrey, were brothers, arguing that, because they are both mentioned in charters of Sainte-Trinité de Rouen in connection with the same property (see below), they had probably inherited it jointly[220].
     "Stapleton also proposed that Roger [I] de Mortemer was the same person as Roger, son of "Bishop Hugues". The question of the identity of Bishop Hugues is discussed in the document NORMANDY NOBILITY. Roger, son of the bishop, is named in three charters, two of which name his father as Bishop Hugues. Firstly, "…ejusdem Rodulfi de Guarethna., Beatricis uxori eius, Rogerii filii episcopi, Huberti filii Turoldi…" witnessed an undated charter which records an agreement between Sainte-Trinité de Rouen and "Rodulfo Warethnæ" to buy land "in Blovilla…apud villam…Merdeplud…et terram prati Sottevillæ"[221]. Secondly, "Rogerius, Hugonis episcopi filius" sold serfs "sub suo dominio in Blovilla et Einardi mansionali et Novillula et in Scurra vel Merdepluet villa…et suæ domus propriæ in urbe Rotomagi" to Sainte-Trinité de Rouen, with the consent of "sua uxore Odain…et eorum filiis Willelmo et Hugone", by undated charter[222]. Thirdly, "Rodulfus de Warenna eiusque conjux…Emma cum filiis suis Rodulfo…atque Willelmo" sold "totius Osulfi Villæ eiusdem Caletensis pagi", sold by "Guillelmo filio Rogerii filii Hugonis episcopi", to Sainte-Trinité de Rouen by charter dated 1074[223]. The Complete Peerage dismisses Stapleton´s hypothesis[224]. It argues firstly that the wife of Roger [I] de Mortemer is named Hawise in primary sources, compared with Oda as the wife of Roger, son of the bishop, and also that the bishop´s son is recorded with children named Guillaume and Hugues, whereas Roger [I]´s heir was named Ralph, although it would not be beyond the stretch of imagination to combine the two families, with Roger having married twice. The third difficulty proposed by the Complete Peerage is harder to dismiss. This is that the 1074 charter quoted above implies that Roger, father of Guillaume, was already deceased at the time of the sale of their property to Raoul de Warenne, whereas sources demonstrate that Roger [I] de Mortemer was still alive in 1078. A further difficulty with Stapleton´s hypothesis is that, if it was correct, the same person would have been referred to in the sources sometimes as "filius episcopi" and sometimes as "de Mortuomari". Such dual appellations are unusual. Different primary sources at the time usually refer to the same individual by the same name and epithet, presumably reflecting the style by which he was normally known among his contemporaries. If a person was known by two names, the style "X qui et Y" was usually adopted in the sources. One possible explanation for this apparent exception to normal practice is that, after the confiscation of his castle, "Rogerius de Mortuomari" became known as "Rogerius filius episcopi", although this does not appear consistent with the survival of the name Mortimer among Roger´s descendants long after the castle was lost."
Med Lands cites:
[213] CP IX 266.
[214] Orderic Vitalis (Prévost), Vol. III, p. 236, footnote 5.
[215] Orderic Vitalis (Prévost), Vol. III, Liber VII, II, p. 160, and XV, pp. 236-7.
[216] CP IX Appendix A, p. 3.
[217] Orderic Vitalis (Prévost), Vol. III, Liber VII, XV, pp. 236-7.
[218] Robert de Torigny, Tome II, p. 201.
[219] Willelmi Gemmetencis Historiæ (Du Chesne, 1619), Liber VIII, XXXVII, p. 312.
[220] Stapleton, Archæological Journal, Vol. III (1846), pp. 1-26, cited in CP IX Appendix A, p. 6 footnote e.
[221] Rouen Sainte-Trinité, XXVII, p. 435.
[222] Rouen Sainte-Trinité, XL, p. 442.
[223] Rouen Sainte-Trinité, XXXV, p. 440.
[224] CP IX Appendix A, p. 7.

II. Wikipedia: Wikipedia provides a summary discussion of the debate regarding Roger's origins:
"The origin of Roger of Mortemer has been subject to much scholarly debate. Only two early sources provide information. Orderic Vitalis calls William de Warenne consanguineo ejus (his cousin/kinsman), while Robert de Torigny confusingly provides three different versions of his parentage that, though inconsistent, all make him either brother or son, of William de Warenne. Historian Thomas Stapleton would identify him with Roger filius Episcopi (bishop's son), who was child of Hugh, bishop of Coutances, and he makes Rodulf de Warenne another son of Hugh, thus making Roger de Mortimer uncle of William de Warenne. However, L. C. Loyd showed that the two Rogers were distinct, and that Radulf, though related to Roger filius Episcopi, was not his brother. Loyd points to a Rogeri filii Radulfi de Warethna (Roger, son of Rodulf de Warenne) who appears in a pair of charters from the 1040s. Loyd was hesitant to connect them because William de Warenne was thought to have been son of this Rodulf, but evidence indicates he was not Roger's brother.[9] However, Katherine Keats-Rohan has concluded that two Rodulfs were mistakenly combined into one, and that Roger was son Rodulf (I) de Warenne and his wife Beatrice, while William de Warenne was his nephew, son of Rodulf (II) and Emma, and as this removes many of Loyd's concerns, she identifies Roger de Mortimer with Roger, son of Rodulf.[10] C. P. Lewis calls this hypothesis the "most plausible" solution.[8] Robert de Torigny called Roger's mother, who is not named, one of the nieces of Gunnor, Duchess of Normandy. This would seemingly make Beatrice that niece. Keats-Rohan identifies her with a later widow, Beatrice, daughter of Tesselin, vicomte of Rouen.[10]"

Wikipedia cites:
8. C. P. Lewis, "Mortimer, Ralph (I) de", Oxford Dictionary of National Biography, online
9. L. C. Loyd, "A Note on the Relationship of the Families of Mortimer and Warenne", The New Complete Peerage, vol. 9, Appendix A, pp. 3-7
10. K. S. B. Keats-Rohan, "Aspects of Torigny's Genealogy Revisited", Nottingham Medieval Studies 37:21–27
III. Boyer [2001]: Boyer [2001:166] seems to have assumed that Roger I was the son of Hugues and who m1. Oda/Odain later m2. Hawise. Boyre cites "Weis, Cokayne and Eyton", stating that "The latter presented a chart in hbis Antiquities of Shropshire [4:196] giving Roger de Mortemer as a son of Hugh, Bishop of Coutances in 990, by a daughter of Richard I, Duke of Normandy." The Eyton citation is:
Eyton, Rev. R. W. Antiquities of Shropshire, 12 vols. London: John Russell Smith, 1854-1860.

IV. Oxford Dictionary of National Biography:
"Mortimer, Roger (fl. 1054–c. 1080)
C. P. Lewis https://doi.org/10.1093/ref:odnb/19351
Published in print: 23 September 2004; Published online: 23 September 2004; This version: 19 May 2011
     "Mortimer, Roger de (fl. 1054–c. 1080), magnate, may never have set foot in England but was the progenitor of the Mortimer family whose importance in English history lasted until the male line died out in the early fifteenth century. His parentage is not certain, and different theories have been put forward to account for the evidence, in particular a charter attestation by a 'Roger, son of Ralph de Warenne', and the statements of the earliest genealogist of the family, Robert de Torigny, in the early twelfth century. Most plausibly Roger was the son of Ralph (I) de Warenne and his wife, Béatrice, who is shown to have been a niece of Duke Richard of Normandy by the later statement of Archbishop Anselm that the Warennes and the dukes then shared an ancestor four generations back on one side and six on the other. That parentage would make Roger (I) de Mortimer a second cousin once removed of Duke William, the conqueror of England. In any case he was certainly related in some way to the ducal house.
     "Probably it was Duke William who gave the young Roger custody of the castle of Mortemer on the Norman frontier towards Amiens, the castle from which he and his descendants took their family name. He had extensive lands in the Pays de Caux and forged alliances with the local aristocracy, taking as his wife Hawise, who inherited land in the diocese of Amiens, and swearing homage to a neighbouring count, Ralph de Crépy, count of Valois.
     "In 1054 King Henry I of France invaded Normandy. One of his allies was Count Ralph, who was in the French army which made for Mortemer. Duke William sent a force commanded by Roger de Mortimer and Robert, count of Eu, which fought and won a pitched battle against the French in the vicinity of Roger's castle. Count Ralph was taken prisoner. Roger behaved with propriety towards his lord the count: he took Ralph into the castle, protected him there for three days, then escorted him to safety. But he thereby prejudiced the interests of his other lord, the duke. William was furious and banished him, confiscating all his estates. When the duke calmed down and took Roger back into his friendship, he restored everything except Mortemer, which he gave instead to Roger's kinsman William (I) de Warenne.
     "Roger de Mortimer afterwards made his chief residence at St Victor-en-Caux, where he and Hawise evidently established a priory which in 1074 was made into an abbey with the permission of the archbishop of Rouen. Although wealthy and well connected, Roger was apparently excluded by the duke from any further participation at the centre of power, since he did not witness any ducal charters before 1066. The family did participate in and profit from the conquest of England, though it was probably through Roger's son Ralph (I) de Mortimer rather than through Roger himself. Roger's only other known public act was between 1078 and 1080, when he witnessed the royal charter which confirmed William (I) de Warenne's foundation of Lewes as a Cluniac priory; his approval might have been sought in Normandy rather than in England. Roger's date of death is unknown; it need not have been before 1086, when his son was in possession of the lands that had been acquired in England.

DNB Sources:
** GEC, Peerage, new edn, 9.266–7
** Ordericus Vitalis, Eccl. hist., 4.86–9
** D. Bates, ed., Regesta regum Anglo-Normannorum: the acta of William I, 1066–1087 (1998), nos. 101, 245
** K. S. B. Keats-Rohan, ‘Aspects of Robert of Torigny's genealogies revisited’, Nottingham Medieval Studies, 37 (1993), 21–7, at 21–3
** D. C. Douglas, William the Conqueror: the Norman impact upon England (1964), 67–70
** M. Fauroux, ed., Recueil des actes des ducs de Normandie de 911 à 1066 (Caen, 1961), no. 136"
V. Racines et Histoire: Shows Roger as the son of Guillaume de Warrenne (b ca 95), and brother of Raoul de Warenne (b. ca 998). Racines et Histoire cites no sources for this.
Conclusion: I have chosen to follow the origins as outline by Keats-Rohan: that Roger was the son of Rodolf de Warenne and his wife Beatrix. GA Vaut.2,3,4,5,6,7

Citations

  1. [S2280] Racines et Histoire, online http://racineshistoire.free.fr/LGN/LGN-frameset.html, http://racineshistoire.free.fr/LGN/PDF/Bayeux-Ivry.pdf, p. 2. Hereinafter cited as Racines et Histoire.
  2. [S2203] Foundation for Medieval Genealogy (FMG): MEDIEVAL LANDS - A prosopography of medieval European noble and royal families, online http://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/index.htm, https://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/ENGLISH%20NOBILITY%20MEDIEVAL2.htm#RalphMortimerdied1100A. Hereinafter cited as FMG Medieval Lands Website.
  3. [S757] Compiled by Carl Boyer 3rd, Medieval English Ancestors of Certain Americans: Many of the English Ancestral Lines Prior to 1300 of those Colonial Americans with known Royal Ancestry but Fully Developed in all Possible Lines (PO Box 220333, Santa Clarita, CA 91322-0333: Carl Boyer 3rd, 2001), p. 166, de MORTIMER of Wigmore 1. Hereinafter cited as Boyer [2001] Med English Ancestors.
  4. [S1953] Wikipedia: The Free Encyclopedia, online http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Main_Page, Roger of Mortemer: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Roger_of_Mortemer. Hereinafter cited as Wikipedia.
  5. [S2286] Oxford Dictionary of National Biography, online http://oxforddnb.com/index/, Mortimer, Roger de: https://www.oxforddnb.com/view/10.1093/ref:odnb/9780198614128.001.0001/odnb-9780198614128-e-19351. Hereinafter cited as ODNB - Oxford Dictionary of National Biography.
  6. [S1549] "Author's comment", various, Gregory A. Vaut (e-mail address), to unknown recipient (unknown recipient address), 25 April 2020; unknown repository, unknown repository address. Hereinafter cited as "GA Vaut Comment."
  7. [S2280] Racines et Histoire, online http://racineshistoire.free.fr/LGN/LGN-frameset.html, Familles de Mortemer & Mortimer, p. 2: http://racineshistoire.free.fr/LGN/PDF/Mortemer.pdf

Galeran d'Ivry baron d’Ivry, seigneur de Bréval1

M, #71264
FatherGuillaume/William "Louvel" (?) seigneur d’Ivry et Bréval,1 d. bt 1166 - 1170
MotherAuberée/Maud de Beaumont de Meulan1 d. a 1189
Last Edited16 May 2009
     Galeran d'Ivry baron d’Ivry, seigneur de Bréval died at Aquitaine, France (now).1 He married Agnès de Montreuil-Bellay Dame de Montreuil-Bellay, vicomtesse de Melun, daughter of Gerard de Montreuil-Bellay Seigneur de Montreuil-Bellay and Bathilde (?).1

Robert (?) d'Ivry, seigneur d’Ivry et de Bréval1

M, #71265
FatherRaoul (?) d'Ivry, comte de Bayeux et châtelain d’Ivry1 b. c 945, d. c 1015
MotherAuberée (Alberède) de Caux1 b. c 960, d. b 1011
Last Edited16 May 2009
     Robert (?) d'Ivry, seigneur d’Ivry et de Bréval was living in 1032.1

Citations

  1. [S2280] Racines et Histoire, online http://racineshistoire.free.fr/LGN/LGN-frameset.html, http://racineshistoire.free.fr/LGN/PDF/Bayeux-Ivry.pdf, p. 6. Hereinafter cited as Racines et Histoire.

Ascelin dit «Goël» (?) seigneur d’Ivry et Bréval1

M, #71266
FatherRobert (?) d'Ivry, seigneur d’Ivry et de Bréval1
Last Edited16 May 2009
     Ascelin dit «Goël» (?) seigneur d’Ivry et Bréval married Isabelle de Crépon, daughter of Guillaume 1 er «FitzOsbern» de Crépon de Breteuil, comte de Breteuil et d’Hereford and Adelise (Alice) de Toeni.1

Citations

  1. [S2280] Racines et Histoire, online http://racineshistoire.free.fr/LGN/LGN-frameset.html, http://racineshistoire.free.fr/LGN/PDF/Bayeux-Ivry.pdf, p. 6. Hereinafter cited as Racines et Histoire.

Agnès de Montreuil-Bellay Dame de Montreuil-Bellay, vicomtesse de Melun1,2

F, #71268
FatherGerard de Montreuil-Bellay Seigneur de Montreuil-Bellay2
MotherBathilde (?)2
Last Edited25 Mar 2020
     Agnès de Montreuil-Bellay Dame de Montreuil-Bellay, vicomtesse de Melun married Galeran d'Ivry baron d’Ivry, seigneur de Bréval, son of Guillaume/William "Louvel" (?) seigneur d’Ivry et Bréval, and Auberée/Maud de Beaumont de Meulan.1

Citations

  1. [S2280] Racines et Histoire, online http://racineshistoire.free.fr/LGN/LGN-frameset.html, http://racineshistoire.free.fr/LGN/PDF/Bayeux-Ivry.pdf, p. 6. Hereinafter cited as Racines et Histoire.
  2. [S2203] Foundation for Medieval Genealogy (FMG): MEDIEVAL LANDS - A prosopography of medieval European noble and royal families, online http://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/index.htm, https://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/parcorroc.htm#GuillaumeIIMelundied1221. Hereinafter cited as FMG Medieval Lands Website.
  3. [S2280] Racines et Histoire, online http://racineshistoire.free.fr/LGN/LGN-frameset.html, http://racineshistoire.free.fr/LGN/PDF/Bayeux-Ivry.pdf, p. 7.

Adelina de Grandmesnil1

F, #71269, d. between 1110 and 1111
FatherHugh I de Grandmesnil Count of Grentmesnil, seigneur de Brokesborne1 b. 1030, d. 22 Feb 1098
MotherAdelaide/Aelis de Beaumont-sur-Oise1 b. c 1040, d. 11 Jul 1091
Last Edited9 Aug 2009

Citations

  1. [S2280] Racines et Histoire, online http://racineshistoire.free.fr/LGN/LGN-frameset.html, http://racineshistoire.free.fr/LGN/PDF/Bayeux-Ivry.pdf, p. 7. Hereinafter cited as Racines et Histoire.

Roger d'Ivry seigneur d’Ivry et Bréval1

M, #71270, d. after 24 April 1089
FatherGaleran d'Ivry baron d’Ivry, seigneur de Bréval1
MotherAgnès de Montreuil-Bellay Dame de Montreuil-Bellay, vicomtesse de Melun1
Last Edited16 May 2009
     Roger d'Ivry seigneur d’Ivry et Bréval married Adelina de Grandmesnil, daughter of Hugh I de Grandmesnil Count of Grentmesnil, seigneur de Brokesborne and Adelaide/Aelis de Beaumont-sur-Oise.1

Roger d'Ivry seigneur d’Ivry et Bréval died after 24 April 1089.1

Family

Adelina de Grandmesnil d. bt 1110 - 1111

Citations

  1. [S2280] Racines et Histoire, online http://racineshistoire.free.fr/LGN/LGN-frameset.html, http://racineshistoire.free.fr/LGN/PDF/Bayeux-Ivry.pdf, p. 7. Hereinafter cited as Racines et Histoire.

Robert III de Villeneuil vicomte de Blois1,2,3

M, #71271
Last Edited8 Sep 2020
     Robert III de Villeneuil vicomte de Blois married Agnès de Beaugency, daughter of Lancelin II (Landry) de Beaugency seigneur de Beaugency and Alberga (?), before February 1069
;
Her 1st husband.2,4,1,5,3
      ; Per Racines et Histoire (Beaugency): “Agnès de Beaugency ° ~1069 (citée donation de Robert de Villeneuil 02/1069)
     ép. 1) avant 02/1069 Robert de Villeneuil (ou Milon de Montmorency ?)
     ép. 2) ~1070/75 ou peu après et dès 1088 Renaud II, comte de Nevers, Tonnerre et Auxerre (1083) ° ~1055/60 + 05/08/1087 (ou 1089, 1097 ?) (fils de Guillaume 1er, comte de Nevers, et d’Ermengarde, comtesse de Tonnerre ; veuf d’Ide-Raymonde de Forez)
     postérité Nevers, Tonnerre & Auxerre”.1

; Per Med Lands:
     "AGNES de Baugency . The Origine et Historia Brevi Nivernensium Comitum records that "Guillelmus…[filios]…Renaldum" married secondly "Idam…filiam Lancelini de Balgentiaco"[741]. Her parentage is confirmed by a charter dated 1134 under which "Guillelmus comes Nivernensis, qui fuit natus de filia Lancelini de Baugenciaco" renounced practices which prejudiced the abbey of Saint-Michel[742]. "Rotbertus de Villenolio gener Lancelini" donated property by charter dated Feb 1069 which names "uxorem suam Agnes…et fratrem suum Willelmum", subscribed by "Lancelinus de Balgentiaco, Rodulfus filius eius"[743].
     "m firstly (before Feb 1069) ROBERT de Villeneuil, son of ---.
     "m secondly (1075 or after) as his second wife, RENAUD [II] Comte de Nevers, son of GUILLAUME I Comte de Nevers & his wife Ermengarde Ctss de Tonnerre (-5 Aug 1089)."
Med Lands cites:
[742] Yonne, Tome I, CLXXIV, p. 296.
[743] Marmoutier-Dunois XV, p. 16.4


; Per Racines et Histoire (Blois): “Robert III de Villeneuil, Vicomte de Blois (se fixe à La Ferté-Nabert : act. -Saint-Aubin)
     ép. Agnès de Beaugency (fille de Lancelin, seigneur de Beaugency)”.2

Citations

  1. [S2280] Racines et Histoire, online http://racineshistoire.free.fr/LGN/LGN-frameset.html, Seigneurs de Beaugency ancien Boisgency, p. 2: http://racineshistoire.free.fr/LGN/PDF/Beaugency.pdf. Hereinafter cited as Racines et Histoire.
  2. [S2280] Racines et Histoire, online http://racineshistoire.free.fr/LGN/LGN-frameset.html, Vicomtes de Blois, p. 3: http://racineshistoire.free.fr/LGN/PDF/Blois_Vicomtes.pdf
  3. [S2164] Roglo Genealogical database, online http://roglo.eu/roglo, Robert de Villeneuil: http://roglo.eu/roglo?lang=en;p=robert;n=de+villeneuil;. Hereinafter cited as Roglo Database.
  4. [S2203] Foundation for Medieval Genealogy (FMG): MEDIEVAL LANDS - A prosopography of medieval European noble and royal families, online http://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/index.htm, https://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/CENTRAL%20FRANCE.htm#AgnesBaugencyMRenaudIINevers. Hereinafter cited as FMG Medieval Lands Website.
  5. [S2164] Roglo Database, online http://roglo.eu/roglo, Agnès de Beaugency: http://roglo.eu/roglo?lang=en;p=agnes;n=de+beaugency;oc=1.

Alain de Rieux Seigneur de Rieux1,2

M, #71272, d. after 1065
FatherGuethenoc de Rieux Seigneur de Rieux3
Last Edited9 Jun 2020
     Alain de Rieux Seigneur de Rieux married Amaurie d'Estouteville, daughter of Robert I "Grandbois" d'Estouteville seigneur d’Estouteville.2,1

Alain de Rieux Seigneur de Rieux died after 1065.2
      ; Per Racines et Histoire (d'Estouteville): “Amaurie d’Estouteville ép. Alain de Rieux + après 1065 (fils de Guethenoc, seigneur de Rieux) pour La Morandière) ”.2

; Per Med Lands:
     "AMAURIE d’Estouteville . Morandière states that "Robert I le vieux d’Estouteville et son autre sœur Amaurie ont épousé Blanche et Alain, enfants de Guéthénoc Sire de Rieux" (who he says was descended from a younger son of Alain I Duke of Brittany, who died[ in 907) but cites no primary source on which the information is based[261].
     "m ALAIN Seigneur de Rieux, son of GUETHENOC Seigneur de Rieux & his wife ---.] "
Med Lands cites: [261] Morandière (1903), p. 31.1

Citations

  1. [S2203] Foundation for Medieval Genealogy (FMG): MEDIEVAL LANDS - A prosopography of medieval European noble and royal families, online http://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/index.htm, https://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/normacre.htm#_Toc492794591. Hereinafter cited as FMG Medieval Lands Website.
  2. [S2280] Racines et Histoire, online http://racineshistoire.free.fr/LGN/LGN-frameset.html, Maison d’ Estouteville, p. 25: http://racineshistoire.free.fr/LGN/PDF/Estouteville.pdf. Hereinafter cited as Racines et Histoire.
  3. [S2280] Racines et Histoire, online http://racineshistoire.free.fr/LGN/LGN-frameset.html, http://racineshistoire.free.fr/LGN/PDF/d'Estouteville, p. 2.

Briande dit "de Beynes" (?) d’Adhemar de Monteil1

F, #71273, b. circa 1200
FatherLambert I Adhémar (?) co-seigneur de Montélimar, seigneur de Monteil, La Garde-Adhémar, Valaurie et La Chaux1 d. a 1227
MotherGuillemette (?) de Donzère, dame de Pierrelatte et de Châteauneuf-du-Rhône1
Last Edited6 Jul 2009
     Briande dit "de Beynes" (?) d’Adhemar de Monteil married Lambert (?) de Thury, seigneur de Lombers
; her 1st husband.1,2 Briande dit "de Beynes" (?) d’Adhemar de Monteil was born circa 1200.2 She married Guy de Montfort châtelain de Bréthencourt, seigneur de Castres, Prévôt puis seigneur, de Beynes, seigneur de La Ferté-Alais et de Gometz, son of Simon V de Montfort 5th Earl of Leicester, Comte de Toulouse, Duc de Narbonne, Marquis de Provence and Amice de Beaumont Countess of Leicester, before July 1224
; his 2nd wife; her 2nd husband.1,2
      ; douairière de Beynes.1

Family 1

Lambert (?) de Thury, seigneur de Lombers

Lambert I Adhémar (?) co-seigneur de Montélimar, seigneur de Monteil, La Garde-Adhémar, Valaurie et La Chaux1,2

M, #71274, d. after 1227
FatherGiraud Adhémar I (?) seigneur de Montélimar, Monteil et Grignan6,4,7,5 b. b 1120, d. a 1164
MotherGarsende (Ermesinde) de Poitiers-Valentinois3,4,5 b. bt 1164 - 1165, d. c 1190
Last Edited19 Sep 2020
     Lambert I Adhémar (?) co-seigneur de Montélimar, seigneur de Monteil, La Garde-Adhémar, Valaurie et La Chaux married Guillemette (?) de Donzère, dame de Pierrelatte et de Châteauneuf-du-Rhône.1
Lambert I Adhémar (?) co-seigneur de Montélimar, seigneur de Monteil, La Garde-Adhémar, Valaurie et La Chaux married Tiburge de Baux comtesse d’Orange, daughter of Bertrand I de Baux Sire de Baux, Prince d'Orange and Tiburge III (?) Countess d'Orange d’Aumelas dite «de Montpellier», princesse d’Orange, circa 1190 at Panat
; his 1st wife.8,9,10,11,2
Lambert I Adhémar (?) co-seigneur de Montélimar, seigneur de Monteil, La Garde-Adhémar, Valaurie et La Chaux died after 1227.9,11
      ; Leo van de Pas cites: Europäische Stammtafeln, J.A. Stargardt Verlag Marburg., Detlev Schwennicke, Editor, Reference: XIV 81.9 Lambert I Adhémar (?) co-seigneur de Montélimar, seigneur de Monteil, La Garde-Adhémar, Valaurie et La Chaux was also known as Lamberto Ademaro Consignore di Monteil.11 Lambert I Adhémar (?) co-seigneur de Montélimar, seigneur de Monteil, La Garde-Adhémar, Valaurie et La Chaux was also known as Lambert Adhemar sn de Monteil.8,11 He was living in 1184.12

Citations

  1. [S2280] Racines et Histoire, online http://racineshistoire.free.fr/LGN/LGN-frameset.html, http://racineshistoire.free.fr/LGN/PDF/Beynes.pdf, p. 2. Hereinafter cited as Racines et Histoire.
  2. [S2280] Racines et Histoire, online http://racineshistoire.free.fr/LGN/LGN-frameset.html, http://racineshistoire.free.fr/LGN/PDF/Adhemar-de-Monteil.pdf, p. 3.
  3. [S1490] Genealogics Website (oiginated by Leo van de Pas, continued by Ian Fettes), online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, (Ermesendis): http://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00196961&tree=LEO. Hereinafter cited as Genealogics Website.
  4. [S2280] Racines et Histoire, online http://racineshistoire.free.fr/LGN/LGN-frameset.html, Famille d’ Adhémar de Monteil alias d’Azémar, p. 3: http://racineshistoire.free.fr/LGN/PDF/Adhemar-de-Monteil.pdf
  5. [S4743] Geneagraphie - Families all over the world (Website), online <http://geneagraphie.com/>, Giraud Adhémar de Monteil: https://geneagraphie.com/getperson.php?personID=I426396&tree=1. Hereinafter cited as Geneagraphie.
  6. [S1490] Genealogics Website, online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Geraud Adhémar I: https://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00196960&tree=LEO
  7. [S2203] Foundation for Medieval Genealogy (FMG): MEDIEVAL LANDS - A prosopography of medieval European noble and royal families, online http://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/index.htm, https://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/provvaldi.htm#GiraudAdemarIMonteildiedafter1164B. Hereinafter cited as FMG Medieval Lands Website.
  8. [S1438] Miroslav Marek, online http://genealogy.euweb.cz/index.html, unknown author (e-mail address), downloaded updated 15 May 2003, Baux 3 page: http://genealogy.euweb.cz/baux/baux3.html
  9. [S1490] Genealogics Website, online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Lambert Adhémar: http://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00198375&tree=LEO
  10. [S1490] Genealogics Website, online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Tiburge de Baux: http://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00208113&tree=LEO
  11. [S1550] Genealogie Delle Dinastie Ialiane [This website is now defunct. Some information has been transferred to the pay site "Genealogie delle Famiglie Nobili Italine" at http://www.sardimpex.com/], online http://www.sardimpex.com/, Balzo page (del Balzo - de Baux): http://www.sardimpex.com/del%20balzo.htm. Hereinafter cited as Genealogie Delle Dinastie Ialiane.
  12. [S1490] Genealogics Website, online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Lmbert Adhémar: http://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00198375&tree=LEO
  13. [S1490] Genealogics Website, online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Ermengarde Adhémar de Monteil: http://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00198374&tree=LEO

Guillemette (?) de Donzère, dame de Pierrelatte et de Châteauneuf-du-Rhône1

F, #71275
Last Edited16 May 2009

Citations

  1. [S2280] Racines et Histoire, online http://racineshistoire.free.fr/LGN/LGN-frameset.html, http://racineshistoire.free.fr/LGN/PDF/Beynes.pdf, p. 2. Hereinafter cited as Racines et Histoire.

Eléonore de Montfort1

F, #71277, d. before 1238
FatherGuy de Montfort châtelain de Bréthencourt, seigneur de Castres, Prévôt puis seigneur, de Beynes, seigneur de La Ferté-Alais et de Gometz1 d. 31 Jan 1228
MotherHelvis d'Ibelin1 d. 1 Jun 1216
Last Edited17 May 2009
     Eléonore de Montfort died before 1238.1
     She was religieuse à l’abbaye Saint-Antoine de Paris at Abbaye de St. Antoine-des-Champs, Paris, City of Paris, Île-de-France, France.1

Citations

  1. [S2280] Racines et Histoire, online http://racineshistoire.free.fr/LGN/LGN-frameset.html, http://racineshistoire.free.fr/LGN/PDF/Beynes.pdf, p. 2. Hereinafter cited as Racines et Histoire.

Guy II de Lévis1

M, #71278
Last Edited17 May 2009
     Guy II de Lévis married Jeanne (?) Jeanne de Bruyères before 1234.2

Jeanne (?) Jeanne de Bruyères1

F, #71279, d. before 1269
Last Edited17 May 2009
     Jeanne (?) Jeanne de Bruyères married Guy II de Lévis before 1234.1

Jeanne (?) Jeanne de Bruyères died before 1269.1

Citations

  1. [S2280] Racines et Histoire, online http://racineshistoire.free.fr/LGN/LGN-frameset.html, http://racineshistoire.free.fr/LGN/PDF/Levis.pdf, p. 3. Hereinafter cited as Racines et Histoire.