Fergus Comyn1

M, #14731, d. after 1270
FatherWilliam Comyn Earl of Buchan j.u., Lord of Badenoch1,2 b. 1163, d. 1233
MotherMarjorie (Margaret) (?) Countess of Buchan1,2 b. c 1183, d. b 1244
Last Edited17 Dec 2020
     Fergus Comyn died after 1270.1

Citations

  1. [S757] Compiled by Carl Boyer 3rd, Medieval English Ancestors of Certain Americans: Many of the English Ancestral Lines Prior to 1300 of those Colonial Americans with known Royal Ancestry but Fully Developed in all Possible Lines (PO Box 220333, Santa Clarita, CA 91322-0333: Carl Boyer 3rd, 2001), p. 59, COMYN 5:vi. Hereinafter cited as Boyer [2001] Med English Ancestors.
  2. [S2203] Foundation for Medieval Genealogy (FMG): MEDIEVAL LANDS - A prosopography of medieval European noble and royal families, online http://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/index.htm, https://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/SCOTTISH%20NOBILITY%20UNTITLED.htm#WilliamComyndied1233. Hereinafter cited as FMG Medieval Lands Website.

Idoine/Idonea Comyn1,2

F, #14732
FatherWilliam Comyn Earl of Buchan j.u., Lord of Badenoch1,3,4 b. 1163, d. 1233
MotherMarjorie (Margaret) (?) Countess of Buchan1,4 b. c 1183, d. b 1244
Last Edited17 Dec 2020
     Idoine/Idonea Comyn married Gilbert de la Haye 3rd feudal Baron of Erroll.1

Family

Gilbert de la Haye 3rd feudal Baron of Erroll

Citations

  1. [S757] Compiled by Carl Boyer 3rd, Medieval English Ancestors of Certain Americans: Many of the English Ancestral Lines Prior to 1300 of those Colonial Americans with known Royal Ancestry but Fully Developed in all Possible Lines (PO Box 220333, Santa Clarita, CA 91322-0333: Carl Boyer 3rd, 2001), p. 59, COMYN 5:vii. Hereinafter cited as Boyer [2001] Med English Ancestors.
  2. [S1396] Burke's Peerage & Gentry Web Site, online http://www.burkes-peerage.net/sites/peerageandgentry/sitepages/home.asp, Erroll Family Page. Hereinafter cited as Burke's Peerage & Gentry Web Site.
  3. [S2372] Frederick Lewis Weis, Ancestral Roots of Certain American Colonists Who Came to America before 1700: The Lineage of Alfred the Great, Charlemagne, Malcolm of Scotland, Robert the Strong, and Some of Their Descendants, 8th ed. w/ additions by Wm R. and Kaleen E. Beall (Baltimore, 1992: Genealogical Publishing Co., Inc., 2004), Line 121A-26, p. 1119.. Hereinafter cited as Weis [2004] "Ancestral Roots" 8th ed.
  4. [S2203] Foundation for Medieval Genealogy (FMG): MEDIEVAL LANDS - A prosopography of medieval European noble and royal families, online http://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/index.htm, https://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/SCOTTISH%20NOBILITY%20UNTITLED.htm#WilliamComyndied1233. Hereinafter cited as FMG Medieval Lands Website.

Elizabeth Comyn1

F, #14734, d. 1267
FatherWilliam Comyn Earl of Buchan j.u., Lord of Badenoch1,2,3,4,5 b. 1163, d. 1233
MotherMarjorie (Margaret) (?) Countess of Buchan1,2,3,6,5 b. c 1183, d. b 1244
ReferenceGAV21 EDV22
Last Edited17 Dec 2020
     Elizabeth Comyn married William (?) 5th Earl of Mar, son of Duncan (?) 4th Earl of Mar,
;
His 1st wife.1,7,8,9,2,3
Elizabeth Comyn died in 1267; Boyer and Genealogics says d. 1267; Med Lands says d. 1265/66.10,2,3
     GAV-21 EDV-22.

Reference: Genealogics cites: The Lineage and Ancestry of H.R.H. Prince Charles, Prince of Wales, Edinburgh, 1977, Paget, Gerald. I 182.2

; Per Med Lands:
     "ELIZABETH Comyn (-[1265/66]). John of Fordun’s Scotichronicon (Continuator) records the death, dated to [1265/66] from the context, of "comitissa de Mar, soror comitis de Buchania"[308].
     "m as his first wife, WILLIAM Earl of Mar, son of DUNCAN Earl of Mar & his wife --- (-before 25 Jul 1281, maybe before Jan 1279)."
Med Lands cites:
[308] Johannis de Fordun (Goodall), Vol. II, Lib. X, Cap. XXV, p. 109.3


; Per Med Lands:
     "WILLIAM (-before 25 Jul 1281, maybe before Jan 1279). "…Willelmo filio Duncani comitis de Mar…" subscribed the undated charter, dated to [1223/40], under which "Fergusius filius Gilberti quondam comitis de Stathern" donated "terram…de Beny" to Lindores Abbey[456]. He succeeded his father in [1243] as Earl of Mar, first recorded as such as witness of a royal charter dated 7 Feb 1244. However, he cites no contemporary primary source which confirms that this supposition is correct. Alan Durward claimed the earldom of Mar in 1257, impugning the legitimacy of his predecessors, a bull of Pope Alexander IV dated 4 Oct 1257 detailing the whole case[457]. "Willelmus comes de Mar" confirmed the donations of "ecclesiam de Taruelond…de Migueth" made by "dñs Morgrundus avus noster…dña Agnes avia nostra quondam comitissa de Mar" to St Andrew’s priory by charter dated 23 Jan 1267 witnessed by "…Douenaldo Duncano filiis eiusdem comitis…"[458]. He was appointed Chamberlain of Alexander III King of Scotland in [1252] and from 1262 to 1264[459]. A memoranda dated "Michaelmas Term" [Oct/Dec] in 1281 records that "the king commands the barons, as William earl of Mar provided his service in the army of Wales for a knight’s fee, to quit him of the scutage"[460]. This document, if correctly dated, suggests that Earl William was still alive at that time. However, his son Donald is recorded as Earl of Mar 25 Jul 1281, which suggests that the previous document should be redated to an earlier year or that "William earl of Mar" in the text was an error for "Donald earl of Mar". Another indication that William Earl of Mar died a few years earlier than 1281 is the document which indicates his widow’s second marriage (see below).
     "m firstly ELIZABETH Comyn, daughter of WILLIAM Comyn Earl of Buchan & his second wife Margaret Ctss of Buchan (-[1265/66]). John of Fordun’s Scotichronicon (Continuator) records the death, dated to [1265/66] from the context, of "comitissa de Mar, soror comitis de Buchania"[461]. The primary source which confirms her name has not yet been identified.
     "m secondly (after 1267) as her first husband, MURIEL of Strathearn, daughter of MALISE Earl of Strathearn & his first wife Marjory de Muschamp of Wooler ([1244]-[16 May/12 Nov] 1291). A charter dated 16 May 1291 records the homage sworn to King Edward by "Muriellæ quæ fuit uxor Willelmi quondam comitis de Mar, filiæ et heredis Margeriæ filiæ Roberti de Muschaumps defunctæ" for the lands of "Margeria mater sua"[462]. She married secondly (before Jan 1279, [divorced before 1291]) James ---. [same person as…? James Stewart, later High Steward of Scotland.] Her second marriage is indicated by an assize roll dated "7 Edw I" [Nov 1278/Nov 1279] which records a claim relating to the barony of Muschamp brought by "Jacobus filius Alexandri et Muriella uxor eius" and "Maria uxor Nicholai de Grame", both represented by "Stephanum de Muschaump vel Thomam de Hagarston", against "Thomam de Rok"[463]. Pleas taken at Newcastle 20 Jan 1279 (N.S.) include a jury finding that "the heirs of Muschampe hold their barony by service of four knights, and making suit to the county of Newcastle"[464]. Andrew MacEwen indicates that "Muriella…Maria" were the two daughters of Malise Earl of Strathearn by his first wife Marjory de Muschamp, and identifies "Jacobus filius Alexandri", the husband of Muriel, as James Stewart the future High Steward of Scotland, although he cites no primary source which confirms that the latter identification is correct[465]. The absence of any reference to Muriel’s husband "James" in the document dated 16 May 1291 quoted below, suggests that the marriage must have terminated before that date by divorce or annulment. A charter dated 16 May 1291 records the homage sworn to King Edward by "Muriellæ quæ fuit uxor Willelmi quondam comitis de Mar, filiæ et heredis Margeriæ filiæ Roberti de Muschaumps defunctæ" for the lands of "Margeria mater sua"[466]. The Inquisitions on the death of "Muriella quondam comitissa de Mar" are dated 23 Nov 1291 and name "Maria uxor Nicholai de Graham [soror] dictæ Muriellæ…propinquor heres" aged 40[467]."
Med Lands cites:
[456] Lindores, XXVI, p. 29.
[457] Balfour Paul The Scots Peerage, Vol. V, Mar, p. 575.
[458] St Andrew’s Priory, p. 311.
[459] CP VIII 401.
[460] Calendar of Documents Scotland (Bain), Vol. II, 201, p. 62.
[461] Johannis de Fordun (Goodall), Vol. II, Lib. X, Cap. XXV, p. 109.
[462] Stephenson (1870), Vol. I, CXXXIX, p. 229.
[463] Page, W. (ed.) (1891) Three Early Assize Rolls for Northumberland 13th Century (Surtees Society), pp. 301-2.
[464] Calendar of Documents Scotland (Bain), Vol. II, 148, m. 12, p. 42.
[465] MacEwen, A. B. W. ‘The Wives of Sir James the Steward (d. 1309)’, Foundations, Vol. 3, No. 5 (Jan 2011), p. 392.
[466] Stephenson (1870), Vol. I, CXXXIX, p. 229.
[467] Stephenson (1870), Vol. I, CLXXX, p. 257.9

Family

William (?) 5th Earl of Mar d. 1281
Child

Citations

  1. [S757] Compiled by Carl Boyer 3rd, Medieval English Ancestors of Certain Americans: Many of the English Ancestral Lines Prior to 1300 of those Colonial Americans with known Royal Ancestry but Fully Developed in all Possible Lines (PO Box 220333, Santa Clarita, CA 91322-0333: Carl Boyer 3rd, 2001), p. 59, COMYN 5:viii. Hereinafter cited as Boyer [2001] Med English Ancestors.
  2. [S1490] Genealogics Website (oiginated by Leo van de Pas, continued by Ian Fettes), online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Elizabeth Comyn: https://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00108347&tree=LEO. Hereinafter cited as Genealogics Website.
  3. [S2203] Foundation for Medieval Genealogy (FMG): MEDIEVAL LANDS - A prosopography of medieval European noble and royal families, online http://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/index.htm, https://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/SCOTTISH%20NOBILITY%20UNTITLED.htm#ElizabethComyndied1267MWilliamMar. Hereinafter cited as FMG Medieval Lands Website.
  4. [S2372] Frederick Lewis Weis, Ancestral Roots of Certain American Colonists Who Came to America before 1700: The Lineage of Alfred the Great, Charlemagne, Malcolm of Scotland, Robert the Strong, and Some of Their Descendants, 8th ed. w/ additions by Wm R. and Kaleen E. Beall (Baltimore, 1992: Genealogical Publishing Co., Inc., 2004), Line 121A-26, p. 1119.. Hereinafter cited as Weis [2004] "Ancestral Roots" 8th ed.
  5. [S2203] FMG Medieval Lands Website, online http://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/index.htm, https://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/SCOTTISH%20NOBILITY%20UNTITLED.htm#WilliamComyndied1233
  6. [S1490] Genealogics Website, online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Margaret: https://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00177702&tree=LEO
  7. [S1681] John P. Ravilious, "Ravilious email 25 Sept 2004: "Re: Earls of Mar"," e-mail message from e-mail address (unknown address) to e-mail address, 25 Sept 2004. Hereinafter cited as "Ravilious email 25 Sept 2004."
  8. [S1490] Genealogics Website, online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, William: https://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00108346&tree=LEO
  9. [S2203] FMG Medieval Lands Website, online http://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/index.htm, https://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/SCOTTISH%20NOBILITY.htm#WilliamMardied1281
  10. [S757] Compiled by Carl Boyer 3rd, Boyer [2001] Med English Ancestors, p. 59, COMYN 5:vii.
  11. [S1505] John P. Ravilious, "Ravilious email 8 Nov 2003: "Dispensation for Robert Stewart (II of Scots) and Euphemia of Ross"," e-mail message from e-mail address (unknown address) to e-mail address, 8 Nov 2003. Hereinafter cited as "Ravilious email 8 Nov 2003."
  12. [S1490] Genealogics Website, online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Donald: https://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00108348&tree=LEO
  13. [S2203] FMG Medieval Lands Website, online http://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/index.htm, https://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/SCOTTISH%20NOBILITY.htm#DonaldMardied1297B

William (?) 5th Earl of Mar1,2

M, #14735, d. 1281
FatherDuncan (?) 4th Earl of Mar3,4,5,6 d. b 7 Feb 1243
ReferenceGAV25
Last Edited9 Jul 2020
     William (?) 5th Earl of Mar married Elizabeth Comyn, daughter of William Comyn Earl of Buchan j.u., Lord of Badenoch and Marjorie (Margaret) (?) Countess of Buchan,
;
His 1st wife.1,7,3,6,8,9 William (?) 5th Earl of Mar married Muriel (?) of Strathearn, daughter of Malise (?) 5th Earl of Strathearn and Marjorie de Muschamp, after 1267
;
His 2nd wife; her 1st husband.2,7,3,6,10,11
William (?) 5th Earl of Mar died in 1281.2,3
      ; Per Med Lands:
     "ELIZABETH Comyn (-[1265/66]). John of Fordun’s Scotichronicon (Continuator) records the death, dated to [1265/66] from the context, of "comitissa de Mar, soror comitis de Buchania"[308].
     "m as his first wife, WILLIAM Earl of Mar, son of DUNCAN Earl of Mar & his wife --- (-before 25 Jul 1281, maybe before Jan 1279)."
Med Lands cites:
[308] Johannis de Fordun (Goodall), Vol. II, Lib. X, Cap. XXV, p. 109.9
GAV-25.

; Per John Ravilious:
     "'William de Mar ', attested charters of Alexander II dated 16 May 1234 and 28 Apr. 1240
     "'William, Earl of Mar', witness to a royal charter of 7 Feb. 1243/4 one of the guarantors of Alexander's confirmation of the pact of 1237 with King Henry III of England, Sept 1244 Chamberlain of Scotland from about 1262 to 1264 Sheriff of Dunbarton 1264-1266[1]
     "'In 1270 he was sent to England, accompanied by the Abbot of Dunfermline, on a mission for the recovery of the Earldom of Huntingdon[3]. By a charter dated at Falkland on the 23rd of January, 1268, witnessed by his sons, Donald and Duncan, he confirmed to the canons of St Andrews the grants made to them by his grandfather, Morgund, Earl of Mar, of the church of Tarland, and by his grandmother, Countess of Mar, of the church of Migvie; and, further, granted an acre of land, lying between the church and the castle of Migvie, for a manse to the vicar serving the cure.' [1]
[1] G. E. Cokayne, "The Complete Peerage," 1910 - The Complete Peerage of England Scotland Ireland Great Britain and the United Kingdom.”.7

; This is the same person as ”Uilleam, Earl of Mar” at Wikipedia.12

Reference: Genealogics cites: The Lineage and Ancestry of H.R.H. Prince Charles, Prince of Wales, Edinburgh, 1977, Paget, Gerald. I 182.3

; Per Burke's: "WILLIAM, 5th Earl of Mar, one of the Regents of Scotland 1258, and Great Chamberlain of Scotland 1264; m 1st, Elizabeth (d 1267), dau of William Cumyn, Earl of Buchan (see BURKE's Dormant & Extinct Peerages), and m 2nd, Muriel (dsp 1291), dau of 1st Earl of Strathearn (see BURKE's Dormant & Extinct Peerages). He d 1281”.2 William (?) 5th Earl of Mar was also known as Uilleam (?) Earl of Mar.12

; Per Med Lands:
     "WILLIAM (-before 25 Jul 1281, maybe before Jan 1279). "…Willelmo filio Duncani comitis de Mar…" subscribed the undated charter, dated to [1223/40], under which "Fergusius filius Gilberti quondam comitis de Stathern" donated "terram…de Beny" to Lindores Abbey[456]. He succeeded his father in [1243] as Earl of Mar, first recorded as such as witness of a royal charter dated 7 Feb 1244. However, he cites no contemporary primary source which confirms that this supposition is correct. Alan Durward claimed the earldom of Mar in 1257, impugning the legitimacy of his predecessors, a bull of Pope Alexander IV dated 4 Oct 1257 detailing the whole case[457]. "Willelmus comes de Mar" confirmed the donations of "ecclesiam de Taruelond…de Migueth" made by "dñs Morgrundus avus noster…dña Agnes avia nostra quondam comitissa de Mar" to St Andrew’s priory by charter dated 23 Jan 1267 witnessed by "…Douenaldo Duncano filiis eiusdem comitis…"[458]. He was appointed Chamberlain of Alexander III King of Scotland in [1252] and from 1262 to 1264[459]. A memoranda dated "Michaelmas Term" [Oct/Dec] in 1281 records that "the king commands the barons, as William earl of Mar provided his service in the army of Wales for a knight’s fee, to quit him of the scutage"[460]. This document, if correctly dated, suggests that Earl William was still alive at that time. However, his son Donald is recorded as Earl of Mar 25 Jul 1281, which suggests that the previous document should be redated to an earlier year or that "William earl of Mar" in the text was an error for "Donald earl of Mar". Another indication that William Earl of Mar died a few years earlier than 1281 is the document which indicates his widow’s second marriage (see below).
     "m firstly ELIZABETH Comyn, daughter of WILLIAM Comyn Earl of Buchan & his second wife Margaret Ctss of Buchan (-[1265/66]). John of Fordun’s Scotichronicon (Continuator) records the death, dated to [1265/66] from the context, of "comitissa de Mar, soror comitis de Buchania"[461]. The primary source which confirms her name has not yet been identified.
     "m secondly (after 1267) as her first husband, MURIEL of Strathearn, daughter of MALISE Earl of Strathearn & his first wife Marjory de Muschamp of Wooler ([1244]-[16 May/12 Nov] 1291). A charter dated 16 May 1291 records the homage sworn to King Edward by "Muriellæ quæ fuit uxor Willelmi quondam comitis de Mar, filiæ et heredis Margeriæ filiæ Roberti de Muschaumps defunctæ" for the lands of "Margeria mater sua"[462]. She married secondly (before Jan 1279, [divorced before 1291]) James ---. [same person as…? James Stewart, later High Steward of Scotland.] Her second marriage is indicated by an assize roll dated "7 Edw I" [Nov 1278/Nov 1279] which records a claim relating to the barony of Muschamp brought by "Jacobus filius Alexandri et Muriella uxor eius" and "Maria uxor Nicholai de Grame", both represented by "Stephanum de Muschaump vel Thomam de Hagarston", against "Thomam de Rok"[463]. Pleas taken at Newcastle 20 Jan 1279 (N.S.) include a jury finding that "the heirs of Muschampe hold their barony by service of four knights, and making suit to the county of Newcastle"[464]. Andrew MacEwen indicates that "Muriella…Maria" were the two daughters of Malise Earl of Strathearn by his first wife Marjory de Muschamp, and identifies "Jacobus filius Alexandri", the husband of Muriel, as James Stewart the future High Steward of Scotland, although he cites no primary source which confirms that the latter identification is correct[465]. The absence of any reference to Muriel’s husband "James" in the document dated 16 May 1291 quoted below, suggests that the marriage must have terminated before that date by divorce or annulment. A charter dated 16 May 1291 records the homage sworn to King Edward by "Muriellæ quæ fuit uxor Willelmi quondam comitis de Mar, filiæ et heredis Margeriæ filiæ Roberti de Muschaumps defunctæ" for the lands of "Margeria mater sua"[466]. The Inquisitions on the death of "Muriella quondam comitissa de Mar" are dated 23 Nov 1291 and name "Maria uxor Nicholai de Graham [soror] dictæ Muriellæ…propinquor heres" aged 40[467]."
Med Lands cites:
[456] Lindores, XXVI, p. 29.
[457] Balfour Paul The Scots Peerage, Vol. V, Mar, p. 575.
[458] St Andrew’s Priory, p. 311.
[459] CP VIII 401.
[460] Calendar of Documents Scotland (Bain), Vol. II, 201, p. 62.
[461] Johannis de Fordun (Goodall), Vol. II, Lib. X, Cap. XXV, p. 109.
[462] Stephenson (1870), Vol. I, CXXXIX, p. 229.
[463] Page, W. (ed.) (1891) Three Early Assize Rolls for Northumberland 13th Century (Surtees Society), pp. 301-2.
[464] Calendar of Documents Scotland (Bain), Vol. II, 148, m. 12, p. 42.
[465] MacEwen, A. B. W. ‘The Wives of Sir James the Steward (d. 1309)’, Foundations, Vol. 3, No. 5 (Jan 2011), p. 392.
[466] Stephenson (1870), Vol. I, CXXXIX, p. 229.
[467] Stephenson (1870), Vol. I, CLXXX, p. 257.6


; Per Med Lands:
     "MURIEL ([1244]-[16 May/12 Nov] 1291). Her parentage and first marriage are confirmed by the document dated 16 May 1291 which is quoted below. Her second marriage is indicated by an assize roll dated "7 Edw I" [Nov 1278/Nov 1279] which records a claim relating to the barony of Muschamp brought by "Jacobus filius Alexandri et Muriella uxor eius" and "Maria uxor Nicholai de Grame", both represented by "Stephanum de Muschaump vel Thomam de Hagarston", against "Thomam de Rok"[782]. Pleas taken at Newcastle 20 Jan 1279 (N.S.) include a jury finding that "the heirs of Muschampe hold their barony by service of four knights, and making suit to the county of Newcastle"[783]. Andrew MacEwen indicates that "Muriella…Maria" were the two daughters of Malise Earl of Strathearn by his first wife Marjory de Muschamp, and identifies "Jacobus filius Alexandri", the husband of Muriel, as James Stewart the future High Steward of Scotland, although he cites no primary source which confirms that the latter identification is correct[784]. The absence of any reference to Muriel’s husband "James" in the document dated 16 May 1291 quoted below, suggests that the marriage must have terminated before that date by divorce or annulment. A charter dated 16 May 1291 records the homage sworn to King Edward by "Muriellæ quæ fuit uxor Willelmi quondam comitis de Mar, filiæ et heredis Margeriæ filiæ Roberti de Muschaumps defunctæ" for the lands of "Margeria mater sua"[785]. The Inquisitions on the death of "Muriella quondam comitissa de Mar" are dated 23 Nov 1291 and name "Maria uxor Nicholai de Graham [soror] dictæ Muriellæ…propinquor heres" aged 40[786].
     "m firstly (after 1267) as his second wife, WILLIAM Earl of Mar, son of DUNCAN Earl of Mar & his wife --- (-1281 before 25 Jul, maybe before Jan 1279).
     "m secondly (before Jan 1279, [divorced before 1291]) JAMES, son of ALEXANDER & his wife ---. [same person as…? JAMES Stewart, later High Steward of Scotland, son of ALEXANDER Stewart High Steward of Scotland & his wife Jean [of Bute] ([1243]-16 Jul 1309).]"
Med Lands cites:
[782] Page, W. (ed.) (1891) Three Early Assize Rolls for Northumberland 13th Century (Surtees Society), pp. 301-2.
[783] Calendar of Documents Scotland (Bain), Vol. II, 148, m. 12, p. 42.
[784] MacEwen ‘Wives of Sir James the Steward’, p. 392.
[785] Stephenson (1870), Vol. I, CXXXIX, p. 229.
[786] Stephenson (1870), Vol. I, CLXXX, p. 257.11
He was Mormaer/Earl of Mar
See attached map of location of Mar within Scotland (from Wikipedia: By Benson85 at the English language Wikipedia, CC BY-SA 3.0, https://commons.wikimedia.org/w/index.php?curid=3003289) between 1244 and 1276.12,13

Family 1

Elizabeth Comyn d. 1267
Child

Family 2

Muriel (?) of Strathearn b. b 20 Mar 1244, d. b 12 Nov 1291

Citations

  1. [S757] Compiled by Carl Boyer 3rd, Medieval English Ancestors of Certain Americans: Many of the English Ancestral Lines Prior to 1300 of those Colonial Americans with known Royal Ancestry but Fully Developed in all Possible Lines (PO Box 220333, Santa Clarita, CA 91322-0333: Carl Boyer 3rd, 2001), p. 59, COMYN 5:viii. Hereinafter cited as Boyer [2001] Med English Ancestors.
  2. [S1396] Burke's Peerage & Gentry Web Site, online http://www.burkes-peerage.net/sites/peerageandgentry/sitepages/home.asp, Earls of Mar Family Page. Hereinafter cited as Burke's Peerage & Gentry Web Site.
  3. [S1490] Genealogics Website (oiginated by Leo van de Pas, continued by Ian Fettes), online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, William: https://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00108346&tree=LEO. Hereinafter cited as Genealogics Website.
  4. [S1490] Genealogics Website, online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Duncan: https://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00108344&tree=LEO
  5. [S2203] Foundation for Medieval Genealogy (FMG): MEDIEVAL LANDS - A prosopography of medieval European noble and royal families, online http://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/index.htm, https://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/SCOTTISH%20NOBILITY.htm#DuncanMardied1242B. Hereinafter cited as FMG Medieval Lands Website.
  6. [S2203] FMG Medieval Lands Website, online http://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/index.htm, https://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/SCOTTISH%20NOBILITY.htm#WilliamMardied1281
  7. [S1681] John P. Ravilious, "Ravilious email 25 Sept 2004: "Re: Earls of Mar"," e-mail message from e-mail address (unknown address) to e-mail address, 25 Sept 2004. Hereinafter cited as "Ravilious email 25 Sept 2004."
  8. [S1490] Genealogics Website, online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Elizabeth Comyn: https://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00108347&tree=LEO
  9. [S2203] FMG Medieval Lands Website, online http://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/index.htm, https://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/SCOTTISH%20NOBILITY%20UNTITLED.htm#ElizabethComyndied1267MWilliamMar
  10. [S1490] Genealogics Website, online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Muriel of Strathearn: https://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00322302&tree=LEO
  11. [S2203] FMG Medieval Lands Website, online http://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/index.htm, https://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/SCOTTISH%20NOBILITY.htm#MurielStrathearndied1291
  12. [S1953] Wikipedia: The Free Encyclopedia, online http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Main_Page, https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Uilleam,_Earl_of_Mar. Hereinafter cited as Wikipedia.
  13. [S1953] Wikipedia, online http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Main_Page, https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Domhnall_I,_Earl_of_Mar#/media/File:Mar_(historical_district).PNG.
  14. [S1490] Genealogics Website, online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Donald: https://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00108348&tree=LEO
  15. [S2203] FMG Medieval Lands Website, online http://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/index.htm, https://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/SCOTTISH%20NOBILITY.htm#DonaldMardied1297B

Agnes Comyn1

F, #14736
FatherWilliam Comyn Earl of Buchan j.u., Lord of Badenoch1,2,3 b. 1163, d. 1233
MotherMarjorie (Margaret) (?) Countess of Buchan1,3 b. c 1183, d. b 1244
Last Edited17 Dec 2020
     Agnes Comyn married Philip Meldrum.1

Family

Philip Meldrum

Citations

  1. [S757] Compiled by Carl Boyer 3rd, Medieval English Ancestors of Certain Americans: Many of the English Ancestral Lines Prior to 1300 of those Colonial Americans with known Royal Ancestry but Fully Developed in all Possible Lines (PO Box 220333, Santa Clarita, CA 91322-0333: Carl Boyer 3rd, 2001), p. 59, COMYN 5:xi. Hereinafter cited as Boyer [2001] Med English Ancestors.
  2. [S2372] Frederick Lewis Weis, Ancestral Roots of Certain American Colonists Who Came to America before 1700: The Lineage of Alfred the Great, Charlemagne, Malcolm of Scotland, Robert the Strong, and Some of Their Descendants, 8th ed. w/ additions by Wm R. and Kaleen E. Beall (Baltimore, 1992: Genealogical Publishing Co., Inc., 2004), Line 121A-26, p. 1119.. Hereinafter cited as Weis [2004] "Ancestral Roots" 8th ed.
  3. [S2203] Foundation for Medieval Genealogy (FMG): MEDIEVAL LANDS - A prosopography of medieval European noble and royal families, online http://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/index.htm, https://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/SCOTTISH%20NOBILITY%20UNTITLED.htm#WilliamComyndied1233. Hereinafter cited as FMG Medieval Lands Website.

William Comyn1

M, #14738
FatherRichard Comyn Lord of Badenoch1 d. bt 1244 - 1249
Last Edited27 Aug 2001

Citations

  1. [S757] Compiled by Carl Boyer 3rd, Medieval English Ancestors of Certain Americans: Many of the English Ancestral Lines Prior to 1300 of those Colonial Americans with known Royal Ancestry but Fully Developed in all Possible Lines (PO Box 220333, Santa Clarita, CA 91322-0333: Carl Boyer 3rd, 2001), p. 59, COMYN 6:ii. Hereinafter cited as Boyer [2001] Med English Ancestors.

Richard Comyn1

M, #14739, d. after 1264
FatherRichard Comyn Lord of Badenoch1 d. bt 1244 - 1249
Last Edited27 Aug 2001
     Richard Comyn died after 1264.1

Citations

  1. [S757] Compiled by Carl Boyer 3rd, Medieval English Ancestors of Certain Americans: Many of the English Ancestral Lines Prior to 1300 of those Colonial Americans with known Royal Ancestry but Fully Developed in all Possible Lines (PO Box 220333, Santa Clarita, CA 91322-0333: Carl Boyer 3rd, 2001), p. 59, COMYN 6:iii. Hereinafter cited as Boyer [2001] Med English Ancestors.

Robert Fitz Corbet1

M, #14740
FatherRobert Fitz Corbet Domesday Baron of Longdon and Alcester1 b. b 1070, d. a 1135
Last Edited27 Aug 2001

Citations

  1. [S757] Compiled by Carl Boyer 3rd, Medieval English Ancestors of Certain Americans: Many of the English Ancestral Lines Prior to 1300 of those Colonial Americans with known Royal Ancestry but Fully Developed in all Possible Lines (PO Box 220333, Santa Clarita, CA 91322-0333: Carl Boyer 3rd, 2001), p. 61, CORBET 3:i. Hereinafter cited as Boyer [2001] Med English Ancestors.

Roger Fitz Corbet Domesday Baron of Caus1

M, #14741, b. between 1050 and 1056, d. circa 1134
FatherHugo le Corbeau (Corbet) Chevalier of Pays de Caux, Normandy b. b 1040, d. bt 1076 - 1086
ReferenceGAV25 EDV25
Last Edited11 May 2003
     Roger Fitz Corbet Domesday Baron of Caus was born between 1050 and 1056.1
Roger Fitz Corbet Domesday Baron of Caus died circa 1134.1
     GAV-25 EDV-25 GKJ-26.

Citations

  1. [S757] Compiled by Carl Boyer 3rd, Medieval English Ancestors of Certain Americans: Many of the English Ancestral Lines Prior to 1300 of those Colonial Americans with known Royal Ancestry but Fully Developed in all Possible Lines (PO Box 220333, Santa Clarita, CA 91322-0333: Carl Boyer 3rd, 2001), pp. 60-61, CORBET 2. Hereinafter cited as Boyer [2001] Med English Ancestors.
  2. [S757] Compiled by Carl Boyer 3rd, Boyer [2001] Med English Ancestors, pp. 60-61, CORBET 2:i.
  3. [S757] Compiled by Carl Boyer 3rd, Boyer [2001] Med English Ancestors, pp. 60-61, CORBET 2:ii.
  4. [S757] Compiled by Carl Boyer 3rd, Boyer [2001] Med English Ancestors, pp. 60-61, CORBET 2:iv.
  5. [S757] Compiled by Carl Boyer 3rd, Boyer [2001] Med English Ancestors, pp. 60-61, CORBET 2:v.

William Fitz Corbet 2nd Baron of Caus1

M, #14742, d. circa 1165
FatherRoger Fitz Corbet Domesday Baron of Caus1 b. bt 1050 - 1056, d. c 1134
ReferenceGAV24 EDV24
Last Edited11 May 2003
     William Fitz Corbet 2nd Baron of Caus died circa 1165.1
      ; "Wiilliam Corbet, the eldest son of Roger, was seated at Wattlesborough."2 GAV-24 EDV-24 GKJ-25.

Citations

  1. [S757] Compiled by Carl Boyer 3rd, Medieval English Ancestors of Certain Americans: Many of the English Ancestral Lines Prior to 1300 of those Colonial Americans with known Royal Ancestry but Fully Developed in all Possible Lines (PO Box 220333, Santa Clarita, CA 91322-0333: Carl Boyer 3rd, 2001), pp. 60-61, CORBET 2:i. Hereinafter cited as Boyer [2001] Med English Ancestors.
  2. [S1429] Unknown compiler, Notable British Families 1600s-1900s from Burke's Peerage., CD-ROM (n.p.: Broderbund Software Company, 1999), Notable British Families, Burke's "Dormant, Abeyant, Forfeited, and Extinct Peerages" (Gen. Pub. Co., Baltimore, 1985 reprint of 1883 edition), Corbet - Barons Corbet, p. 136. Hereinafter cited as Notable British Families CD # 367.

Everard Fitz Corbet1,2

M, #14743, d. after 1155
FatherRoger Fitz Corbet Domesday Baron of Caus2 b. bt 1050 - 1056, d. c 1134
Last Edited27 Aug 2001
     Everard Fitz Corbet died after 1155.2

Citations

  1. No issue.
  2. [S757] Compiled by Carl Boyer 3rd, Medieval English Ancestors of Certain Americans: Many of the English Ancestral Lines Prior to 1300 of those Colonial Americans with known Royal Ancestry but Fully Developed in all Possible Lines (PO Box 220333, Santa Clarita, CA 91322-0333: Carl Boyer 3rd, 2001), pp. 60-61, CORBET 2:ii. Hereinafter cited as Boyer [2001] Med English Ancestors.

Simon Fitz Corbet1,2

M, #14744
FatherRoger Fitz Corbet Domesday Baron of Caus2 b. bt 1050 - 1056, d. c 1134
Last Edited27 Aug 2001

Citations

  1. No issue.
  2. [S757] Compiled by Carl Boyer 3rd, Medieval English Ancestors of Certain Americans: Many of the English Ancestral Lines Prior to 1300 of those Colonial Americans with known Royal Ancestry but Fully Developed in all Possible Lines (PO Box 220333, Santa Clarita, CA 91322-0333: Carl Boyer 3rd, 2001), pp. 60-61, CORBET 2:ii. Hereinafter cited as Boyer [2001] Med English Ancestors.

Roger Fitz Corbet Lord of Tasley1

M, #14745, d. 1175
FatherRoger Fitz Corbet Domesday Baron of Caus1 b. bt 1050 - 1056, d. c 1134
Last Edited27 Aug 2001
     Roger Fitz Corbet Lord of Tasley died in 1175.1

Citations

  1. [S757] Compiled by Carl Boyer 3rd, Medieval English Ancestors of Certain Americans: Many of the English Ancestral Lines Prior to 1300 of those Colonial Americans with known Royal Ancestry but Fully Developed in all Possible Lines (PO Box 220333, Santa Clarita, CA 91322-0333: Carl Boyer 3rd, 2001), pp. 60-61, CORBET 2:iv. Hereinafter cited as Boyer [2001] Med English Ancestors.

Robert Fitz Corbet1

M, #14746
FatherRoger Fitz Corbet Domesday Baron of Caus1 b. bt 1050 - 1056, d. c 1134
Last Edited27 Aug 2001
      ; founder of the Corbet branch in Scotland.2

Citations

  1. [S757] Compiled by Carl Boyer 3rd, Medieval English Ancestors of Certain Americans: Many of the English Ancestral Lines Prior to 1300 of those Colonial Americans with known Royal Ancestry but Fully Developed in all Possible Lines (PO Box 220333, Santa Clarita, CA 91322-0333: Carl Boyer 3rd, 2001), pp. 60-61, CORBET 2:v. Hereinafter cited as Boyer [2001] Med English Ancestors.
  2. [S757] Compiled by Carl Boyer 3rd, Boyer [2001] Med English Ancestors, pp. 60-61, CORBET 2:ii.

Hugo le Corbeau (Corbet) Chevalier of Pays de Caux, Normandy1

M, #14747, b. before 1040, d. between 1076 and 1086
ReferenceGAV25 EDV25
Last Edited14 Feb 2003
     Hugo le Corbeau (Corbet) Chevalier of Pays de Caux, Normandy was born before 1040.1
Hugo le Corbeau (Corbet) Chevalier of Pays de Caux, Normandy died between 1076 and 1086.1
      ; All copies of the Battle Abbey Roll, from Leland, who made the first copy, onwards, include Hugo le Corbet among those who came with William the Conqueror, with sons Roger and Robert, probably under the command of comte Roger de Montgomery.1 GAV-25 EDV-25.

Citations

  1. [S757] Compiled by Carl Boyer 3rd, Medieval English Ancestors of Certain Americans: Many of the English Ancestral Lines Prior to 1300 of those Colonial Americans with known Royal Ancestry but Fully Developed in all Possible Lines (PO Box 220333, Santa Clarita, CA 91322-0333: Carl Boyer 3rd, 2001), p. 60, CORBET 1. Hereinafter cited as Boyer [2001] Med English Ancestors.

Hugo le Corbeau (Corbet)1

M, #14748, b. circa 1046
FatherHugo le Corbeau (Corbet) Chevalier of Pays de Caux, Normandy1 b. b 1040, d. bt 1076 - 1086
Last Edited27 Aug 2001
     Hugo le Corbeau (Corbet) died at Normandy, France.1 He was born circa 1046 at Normandy, France.1

Citations

  1. [S757] Compiled by Carl Boyer 3rd, Medieval English Ancestors of Certain Americans: Many of the English Ancestral Lines Prior to 1300 of those Colonial Americans with known Royal Ancestry but Fully Developed in all Possible Lines (PO Box 220333, Santa Clarita, CA 91322-0333: Carl Boyer 3rd, 2001), p. 60, CORBET 1. Hereinafter cited as Boyer [2001] Med English Ancestors.

Robert le Corbeau (Corbet)1

M, #14749, d. after 1130
FatherHugo le Corbeau (Corbet) Chevalier of Pays de Caux, Normandy1 b. b 1040, d. bt 1076 - 1086
Last Edited27 Aug 2001
     Robert le Corbeau (Corbet) died after 1130.1

Citations

  1. [S757] Compiled by Carl Boyer 3rd, Medieval English Ancestors of Certain Americans: Many of the English Ancestral Lines Prior to 1300 of those Colonial Americans with known Royal Ancestry but Fully Developed in all Possible Lines (PO Box 220333, Santa Clarita, CA 91322-0333: Carl Boyer 3rd, 2001), p. 60, CORBET 1. Hereinafter cited as Boyer [2001] Med English Ancestors.

Pernell le Despenser1

F, #14750
FatherSir Hugh le Despenser1 d. bt 23 Feb 1238 - 30 May 1238
Last Edited27 Aug 2001
     Pernell le Despenser married Geoffrey le Sauvage of Hintes.2

Citations

  1. [S757] Compiled by Carl Boyer 3rd, Medieval English Ancestors of Certain Americans: Many of the English Ancestral Lines Prior to 1300 of those Colonial Americans with known Royal Ancestry but Fully Developed in all Possible Lines (PO Box 220333, Santa Clarita, CA 91322-0333: Carl Boyer 3rd, 2001), p. 67, le DESPENSER 2:ii. Hereinafter cited as Boyer [2001] Med English Ancestors.
  2. [S757] Compiled by Carl Boyer 3rd, Boyer [2001] Med English Ancestors, p. 67, le DESPENSER 2ii.

Geoffrey le Sauvage of Hintes1

M, #14751, d. 1230
Last Edited1 Oct 2002
     Geoffrey le Sauvage of Hintes married Pernell le Despenser, daughter of Sir Hugh le Despenser.1

Geoffrey le Sauvage of Hintes died in 1230.1,2

Citations

  1. [S757] Compiled by Carl Boyer 3rd, Medieval English Ancestors of Certain Americans: Many of the English Ancestral Lines Prior to 1300 of those Colonial Americans with known Royal Ancestry but Fully Developed in all Possible Lines (PO Box 220333, Santa Clarita, CA 91322-0333: Carl Boyer 3rd, 2001), p. 67, le DESPENSER 2ii. Hereinafter cited as Boyer [2001] Med English Ancestors.
  2. [S1396] Burke's Peerage & Gentry Web Site, online http://www.burkes-peerage.net/sites/peerageandgentry/sitepages/home.asp, Falmouth Family Page. Hereinafter cited as Burke's Peerage & Gentry Web Site.

Thomas le Despenser1

M, #14752, d. circa 1207
FatherGeoffrey le Despenser2,3
ReferenceGAV22 EDV22
Last Edited5 Sep 2019
     Thomas le Despenser married Recuara (?)4,3,2

Thomas le Despenser died circa 1207; Boyer says d. bef 1218; Ravilious says d. ca 1207; Genealogics says d. ca 1207.5,1,6,7,3
     GAV-22 EDV-22 GKJ-22.

; Barony of Le Despenser: The name le Despenser seems to derive from the post of dispenser (a post of second-rank importance in a noble or royal household - somewhere perhaps between under-butler and comptroller - with responsibility for allocating victuals). The Despensers who gave their name to the Barony that is still extant and currently held by the Viscounts Falmouth were originally dispensers to the Earls (or perhaps Constables) of Chester in the early 13th century. Lands could be held by the perfomance of such services to a feudal superior. Another family of dispensers served HENRY III himself and his successors, one of them even being called to Parliament by writ in 1387, though the summons was not repeated to any of his descendants. Nevertheless under later peerage law doctrine a right to the Barony deemed to have been created by the writ of summons of 1387 would have vested in descendants and ultimately passed, via the 2nd Earl of Lovelace (qv) and his elder brother, to the Earls of Lytton (qv).1 Thomas le Despenser was also known as Thomas Dispensator.5

Citations

  1. [S1396] Burke's Peerage & Gentry Web Site, online http://www.burkes-peerage.net/sites/peerageandgentry/sitepages/home.asp, Falmouth Family Page. Hereinafter cited as Burke's Peerage & Gentry Web Site.
  2. [S2204] John P. Ravilious, "Ravilious email 9 Dec 2007: "Re: #Geoffrey / Galfridus le Despenser Lord Marcheley"," e-mail message from e-mail address (unknown address) to e-mail address, 9 Dec 2007. Hereinafter cited as "Ravilious email 9 Dec 2007."
  3. [S1490] Genealogics Website (oiginated by Leo van de Pas, continued by Ian Fettes), online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Thomas le Despenser: https://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00398118&tree=LEO. Hereinafter cited as Genealogics Website.
  4. [S1490] Genealogics Website, online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Recuara: https://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00478279&tree=LEO
  5. [S757] Compiled by Carl Boyer 3rd, Medieval English Ancestors of Certain Americans: Many of the English Ancestral Lines Prior to 1300 of those Colonial Americans with known Royal Ancestry but Fully Developed in all Possible Lines (PO Box 220333, Santa Clarita, CA 91322-0333: Carl Boyer 3rd, 2001), pp. 66-67, le DESPENSER 1. Hereinafter cited as Boyer [2001] Med English Ancestors.
  6. [S2204] John P. Ravilious, "Ravilious email 9 Dec 2007," e-mail to e-mail address, 9 Dec 2007, Something rang a distant bell this evening while reading the Registrum de Panmure, and I noted in the archives your query of old as to Sibyl/Sibilla de Valoines, wife of Robert de Stuteville. Leaving the other problematic Sibyls in the cave for the moment, this kinswoman can now be identified as the daughter (not sister) of Philip de Valoines, chamberlain of Scotland (d. 1215). From the Bodleian library we have the following charter:

    ' Charta Philippi de Valonijs, Rob. de Stutevill.

    UNIVERSIS sancte matris ecclesie filijs, Philippus de Valonijs, salutem. Sciant presentes et futuri me dedisse et concessisse et carta mea confirmasse Roberto de Stutevill, et Sibille filie mee, et heredibus quos predictus Robertus de Stutevill habebit de predicta Sibilla sponsa sua, villam de Torpenhon, in maritagium, per rectas divisas suas, et cum
    omnibus justis pertinentijs suis, et in ecclesia et in molendino et in omnibus aliis justis pertinentiis suis illis et predictis heredibus, quos habebit de predicta Sibilla sponsa sua, Tenendam de me et heredibus meis, ita libere, quiete, plenarie, integre, et honorifice, sicut predictam terram melius, plenius et quietius tenui die quo predictam Sibillam filiam meam duxit in uxorem. Hijs testibus, Radulfo abbate de Jeddewrth, Roberto archidiacono Glascuiensi, Willielmo Giffart, Roberto de Landeles, Roberto de Sancto Michaele, Bernardo de Hawedane, Johanne de Wiltune, Simone de Hawic, Alano de Ruele, Hugone de Ruwerfort, Gilleberto de Maltalent, Radulfo de Alneto, Anketino filio Durandi, Radulpho de la Ferte, Willielmo de Solum.' [1]

    If the other Sibyl de Valoines (wife of Robert de Ros, et al.) is of the same immediate family, she must have been a sister of Philip et al. Of course, she could be a cousin. The other (?) issue of note, it appears that Torpenhow, Cumbs. was the property of Sibyl/Sibilla, wife of Philip de Valoines. This may assist in identifying her family (unfortunately the VCH for Cumberland isn't there yet).
  7. [S2788] John Watson, "Watson email 9 June 2014: "Origin of the Despensers"," e-mail message from e-mail address (unknown address) to e-mail address, 9 June 2014. Hereinafter cited as "Watson1 email 9 June 2014."
  8. [S757] Compiled by Carl Boyer 3rd, Boyer [2001] Med English Ancestors, pp. 66-67, le DESPENSER 1:i.
  9. [S757] Compiled by Carl Boyer 3rd, Boyer [2001] Med English Ancestors, pp. 66-67, le DESPENSER 1:iii.
  10. [S1396] Burke's Peerage & Gentry Web Site, online http://www.burkes-peerage.net/sites/peerageandgentry/sitepages/home.asp, Segrave of Isfield Place Family Page.

Thomas le Despenser1

M, #14753, d. circa October 1218
FatherThomas le Despenser1,2,3 d. c 1207
MotherRecuara (?)4
Last Edited5 Sep 2019
     Thomas le Despenser died circa October 1218; dsp.1,5

Citations

  1. [S757] Compiled by Carl Boyer 3rd, Medieval English Ancestors of Certain Americans: Many of the English Ancestral Lines Prior to 1300 of those Colonial Americans with known Royal Ancestry but Fully Developed in all Possible Lines (PO Box 220333, Santa Clarita, CA 91322-0333: Carl Boyer 3rd, 2001), pp. 66-67, le DESPENSER 1:i. Hereinafter cited as Boyer [2001] Med English Ancestors.
  2. [S2204] John P. Ravilious, "Ravilious email 9 Dec 2007: "Re: #Geoffrey / Galfridus le Despenser Lord Marcheley"," e-mail message from e-mail address (unknown address) to e-mail address, 9 Dec 2007. Hereinafter cited as "Ravilious email 9 Dec 2007."
  3. [S2788] John Watson, "Watson email 9 June 2014: "Origin of the Despensers"," e-mail message from e-mail address (unknown address) to e-mail address, 9 June 2014. Hereinafter cited as "Watson1 email 9 June 2014."
  4. [S1490] Genealogics Website (oiginated by Leo van de Pas, continued by Ian Fettes), online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Recuara: https://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00478279&tree=LEO. Hereinafter cited as Genealogics Website.
  5. [S1396] Burke's Peerage & Gentry Web Site, online http://www.burkes-peerage.net/sites/peerageandgentry/sitepages/home.asp, Falmouth Family Page. Hereinafter cited as Burke's Peerage & Gentry Web Site.

Geoffrey le Despenser of Martley, co. Worcester1,2,3

M, #14754, d. 1251
FatherThomas le Despenser1,4,5 d. c 1207
MotherRecuara (?)4
Last Edited8 Sep 2014
     Geoffrey le Despenser of Martley, co. Worcester married Emma de Harcourt, daughter of Richard de Harcourt Sire d'Harcourt,
; his 2nd wife.1,2,6
Geoffrey le Despenser of Martley, co. Worcester died in 1251.1,3
     Geoffrey le Despenser of Martley, co. Worcester was also known as .7

Family 1

Emma de Harcourt d. a 1265

Family 2

Child

Citations

  1. [S757] Compiled by Carl Boyer 3rd, Medieval English Ancestors of Certain Americans: Many of the English Ancestral Lines Prior to 1300 of those Colonial Americans with known Royal Ancestry but Fully Developed in all Possible Lines (PO Box 220333, Santa Clarita, CA 91322-0333: Carl Boyer 3rd, 2001), pp. 66-67, le DESPENSER 1:iii. Hereinafter cited as Boyer [2001] Med English Ancestors.
  2. [S1396] Burke's Peerage & Gentry Web Site, online http://www.burkes-peerage.net/sites/peerageandgentry/sitepages/home.asp, Falmouth Family Page. Hereinafter cited as Burke's Peerage & Gentry Web Site.
  3. [S2204] John P. Ravilious, "Ravilious email 9 Dec 2007: "Re: #Geoffrey / Galfridus le Despenser Lord Marcheley"," e-mail message from e-mail address (unknown address) to e-mail address, 9 Dec 2007, Something rang a distant bell this evening while reading the Registrum de Panmure, and I noted in the archives your query of old as to Sibyl/Sibilla de Valoines, wife of Robert de Stuteville. Leaving the other problematic Sibyls in the cave for the moment, this kinswoman can now be identified as the daughter (not sister) of Philip de Valoines, chamberlain of Scotland (d. 1215). From the Bodleian library we have the following charter:

    ' Charta Philippi de Valonijs, Rob. de Stutevill.

    UNIVERSIS sancte matris ecclesie filijs, Philippus de Valonijs, salutem. Sciant presentes et futuri me dedisse et concessisse et carta mea confirmasse Roberto de Stutevill, et Sibille filie mee, et heredibus quos predictus Robertus de Stutevill habebit de predicta Sibilla sponsa sua, villam de Torpenhon, in maritagium, per rectas divisas suas, et cum
    omnibus justis pertinentijs suis, et in ecclesia et in molendino et in omnibus aliis justis pertinentiis suis illis et predictis heredibus, quos habebit de predicta Sibilla sponsa sua, Tenendam de me et heredibus meis, ita libere, quiete, plenarie, integre, et honorifice, sicut predictam terram melius, plenius et quietius tenui die quo predictam Sibillam filiam meam duxit in uxorem. Hijs testibus, Radulfo abbate de Jeddewrth, Roberto archidiacono Glascuiensi, Willielmo Giffart, Roberto de Landeles, Roberto de Sancto Michaele, Bernardo de Hawedane, Johanne de Wiltune, Simone de Hawic, Alano de Ruele, Hugone de Ruwerfort, Gilleberto de Maltalent, Radulfo de Alneto, Anketino filio Durandi, Radulpho de la Ferte, Willielmo de Solum.' [1]

    If the other Sibyl de Valoines (wife of Robert de Ros, et al.) is of the same immediate family, she must have been a sister of Philip et al. Of course, she could be a cousin. The other (?) issue of note, it appears that Torpenhow, Cumbs. was the property of Sibyl/Sibilla, wife of Philip de Valoines. This may assist in identifying her family (unfortunately the VCH for Cumberland isn't there yet).. Hereinafter cited as "Ravilious email 9 Dec 2007."
  4. [S2204] John P. Ravilious, "Ravilious email 9 Dec 2007," e-mail to e-mail address, 9 Dec 2007.
  5. [S2788] John Watson, "Watson email 9 June 2014: "Origin of the Despensers"," e-mail message from e-mail address (unknown address) to e-mail address, 9 June 2014. Hereinafter cited as "Watson1 email 9 June 2014."
  6. [S2204] John P. Ravilious, "Ravilious email 9 Dec 2007," e-mail to e-mail address, 9 Dec 2007,

    ' Charta Philippi de Valonijs, Rob. de Stutevill.

    UNIVERSIS sancte matris ecclesie filijs, Philippus de Valonijs, salutem. Sciant presentes et futuri me dedisse et concessisse et carta mea confirmasse Roberto de Stutevill, et Sibille filie mee, et heredibus quos predictus Robertus de Stutevill habebit de predicta Sibilla sponsa sua, villam de Torpenhon, in maritagium, per rectas divisas suas, et cum
    omnibus justis pertinentijs suis, et in ecclesia et in molendino et in omnibus aliis justis pertinentiis suis illis et predictis heredibus, quos habebit de predicta Sibilla sponsa sua, Tenendam de me et heredibus meis, ita libere, quiete, plenarie, integre, et honorifice, sicut predictam terram melius, plenius et quietius tenui die quo predictam Sibillam filiam meam duxit in uxorem. Hijs testibus, Radulfo abbate de Jeddewrth, Roberto archidiacono Glascuiensi, Willielmo Giffart, Roberto de Landeles, Roberto de Sancto Michaele, Bernardo de Hawedane, Johanne de Wiltune, Simone de Hawic, Alano de Ruele, Hugone de Ruwerfort, Gilleberto de Maltalent, Radulfo de Alneto, Anketino filio Durandi, Radulpho de la Ferte, Willielmo de Solum.' [1]

    If the other Sibyl de Valoines (wife of Robert de Ros, et al.) is of the same immediate family, she must have been a sister of Philip et al. Of course, she could be a cousin. The other (?) issue of note, it appears that Torpenhow, Cumbs. was the property of Sibyl/Sibilla, wife of Philip de Valoines. This may assist in identifying her family (unfortunately the VCH for Cumberland isn't there yet).
  7. [S2787] John Watson, "Watson email 6 June 2014: "Re: Connection of Adam de Port to Geoffery de Hickling"," e-mail message from e-mail address (unknown address) to e-mail address, 6 June 2014. Hereinafter cited as "Watson1 email 6 June 2014."

Emma de Harcourt1

F, #14755, d. after 1265
FatherRichard de Harcourt Sire d'Harcourt2
Last Edited21 Jan 2008
     Emma de Harcourt married Geoffrey le Despenser of Martley, co. Worcester, son of Thomas le Despenser and Recuara (?),
; his 2nd wife.1,2,3 Emma de Harcourt married John de St. John of Stanton.1

Emma de Harcourt died after 1265.1
     She was living in 1265.2

Family 1

John de St. John of Stanton d. 1229

Citations

  1. [S757] Compiled by Carl Boyer 3rd, Medieval English Ancestors of Certain Americans: Many of the English Ancestral Lines Prior to 1300 of those Colonial Americans with known Royal Ancestry but Fully Developed in all Possible Lines (PO Box 220333, Santa Clarita, CA 91322-0333: Carl Boyer 3rd, 2001), pp. 66-67, le DESPENSER 1:iii. Hereinafter cited as Boyer [2001] Med English Ancestors.
  2. [S1396] Burke's Peerage & Gentry Web Site, online http://www.burkes-peerage.net/sites/peerageandgentry/sitepages/home.asp, Falmouth Family Page. Hereinafter cited as Burke's Peerage & Gentry Web Site.
  3. [S2204] John P. Ravilious, "Ravilious email 9 Dec 2007: "Re: #Geoffrey / Galfridus le Despenser Lord Marcheley"," e-mail message from e-mail address (unknown address) to e-mail address, 9 Dec 2007,

    ' Charta Philippi de Valonijs, Rob. de Stutevill.

    UNIVERSIS sancte matris ecclesie filijs, Philippus de Valonijs, salutem. Sciant presentes et futuri me dedisse et concessisse et carta mea confirmasse Roberto de Stutevill, et Sibille filie mee, et heredibus quos predictus Robertus de Stutevill habebit de predicta Sibilla sponsa sua, villam de Torpenhon, in maritagium, per rectas divisas suas, et cum
    omnibus justis pertinentijs suis, et in ecclesia et in molendino et in omnibus aliis justis pertinentiis suis illis et predictis heredibus, quos habebit de predicta Sibilla sponsa sua, Tenendam de me et heredibus meis, ita libere, quiete, plenarie, integre, et honorifice, sicut predictam terram melius, plenius et quietius tenui die quo predictam Sibillam filiam meam duxit in uxorem. Hijs testibus, Radulfo abbate de Jeddewrth, Roberto archidiacono Glascuiensi, Willielmo Giffart, Roberto de Landeles, Roberto de Sancto Michaele, Bernardo de Hawedane, Johanne de Wiltune, Simone de Hawic, Alano de Ruele, Hugone de Ruwerfort, Gilleberto de Maltalent, Radulfo de Alneto, Anketino filio Durandi, Radulpho de la Ferte, Willielmo de Solum.' [1]

    If the other Sibyl de Valoines (wife of Robert de Ros, et al.) is of the same immediate family, she must have been a sister of Philip et al. Of course, she could be a cousin. The other (?) issue of note, it appears that Torpenhow, Cumbs. was the property of Sibyl/Sibilla, wife of Philip de Valoines. This may assist in identifying her family (unfortunately the VCH for Cumberland isn't there yet).. Hereinafter cited as "Ravilious email 9 Dec 2007."

John de St. John of Stanton1

M, #14756, d. 1229
Last Edited8 Sep 2014
     John de St. John of Stanton married Emma de Harcourt, daughter of Richard de Harcourt Sire d'Harcourt.1

John de St. John of Stanton died in 1229.1
     John de St. John of Stanton was also known as .2

Family

Emma de Harcourt d. a 1265

Citations

  1. [S757] Compiled by Carl Boyer 3rd, Medieval English Ancestors of Certain Americans: Many of the English Ancestral Lines Prior to 1300 of those Colonial Americans with known Royal Ancestry but Fully Developed in all Possible Lines (PO Box 220333, Santa Clarita, CA 91322-0333: Carl Boyer 3rd, 2001), pp. 66-67, le DESPENSER 1:iii. Hereinafter cited as Boyer [2001] Med English Ancestors.
  2. [S2787] John Watson, "Watson email 6 June 2014: "Re: Connection of Adam de Port to Geoffery de Hickling"," e-mail message from e-mail address (unknown address) to e-mail address, 6 June 2014. Hereinafter cited as "Watson1 email 6 June 2014."

Roger I de Toeni Lord of Guerny1,2,3,4

M, #14757, b. circa 990, d. between 1038 and 1039
FatherRadulf II de Tosny Seigneur de Tosny5,6 b. c 955, d. a 1023
ReferenceGAV26 EDV27
Last Edited16 Dec 2007
     Roger I de Toeni Lord of Guerny married Godehilde (?)1,6,7
Roger I de Toeni Lord of Guerny was born circa 990 at Guerny, Normandy, France.3 He married Estephania (?) de Barcelona, daughter of Raimund/Ramon III/I Borell (?) Count of Barcelona, Girona and Osona and Ermensinde (?) de Carcassonne, circa 990.3,6

Roger I de Toeni Lord of Guerny died between 1038 and 1039.8
     GAV-26 EDV-27 GKJ-27.

; ROGER de TOENI, also called ROGER de CONCHES; b probably c 990; fought Muslims in Spain; m(?) 1st(?) Stephanie (m 2nd GARSIAS, KING OF SPAIN), sis of Raymond Berenger, Count of Barcelona; m (2nd?) Godeheut (m 2nd Richard, 3rd Count of Evreux), dau of -, and d 1038 or 1039 in battle against a neighbouring noble whose territory he had overrun in a revolt against the succession of WILLIAM I (THE CONQUEROR) to his f's Norman possessions on the grounds that WILLIAM was illegitimate.6

; His son, Roger, seems to have been involved in his father's fall from ducal favour, for at much tine same time as Ralph was fighting in Italy (c. 1020) Roger may he traced to Spain where lie entered the service of the Countess Ermesenda of Barcelona. recently widowed amid governing the county as regent for her young son. Roger was employed in defending her principality against its Muslim neighbours, especially Mujahid of the taifa kingdom of Denia, and acquitted himself well. Legends about his exploits there quickly grew up. Within at most fifteen years it was said that he had hastened the submission of his enemies by perpetrating acts of cannibalism upon his Muslim prisoners of war. Whatever tine truth behind this fantastic story - as a twelfth-century annotator observed, it seems to owe something to the legend of Atreus and Thyestes - Roger became notorious for his Spanish adventures: lie was known in Normandy as 'Roger the Spaniard'. Reconciled with the ducal family, he returned to Normandy early in the 1030s. His foundation of the abbey of Conches in about 1035 was made possible at least in part by the wealth he had accumulated nun Spain. Roger did not long survive his return. He was killed in 1040 in the course of a feud with a neighbouring family, the Beaumonts.9 Roger I de Toeni Lord of Guerny was also known as Roger I de Conches Lord of Guerny. Roger I de Toeni Lord of Guerny was also known as Roger I de Tosny Lord of Guerny.4

Family 3

Godehilde (?) d. a 1055
Children

Citations

  1. [S757] Compiled by Carl Boyer 3rd, Medieval English Ancestors of Certain Americans: Many of the English Ancestral Lines Prior to 1300 of those Colonial Americans with known Royal Ancestry but Fully Developed in all Possible Lines (PO Box 220333, Santa Clarita, CA 91322-0333: Carl Boyer 3rd, 2001), p. 68, DEVEREUX 2. Hereinafter cited as Boyer [2001] Med English Ancestors.
  2. [S757] Compiled by Carl Boyer 3rd, Boyer [2001] Med English Ancestors, p. 230, de STAFFORD of Staffordshire 1.
  3. [S757] Compiled by Carl Boyer 3rd, Boyer [2001] Med English Ancestors, pp. 240-241, de TOENI 4.
  4. [S812] e-mail address, online http://worldconnect.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/igm.cgi?db=bferris, Jr. William R. Ferris (unknown location), downloaded updated 4 Apr 2002, http://worldconnect.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/igm.cgi?op=GET&db=bferris&id=I44482
  5. [S757] Compiled by Carl Boyer 3rd, Boyer [2001] Med English Ancestors, p. 240, de TOENI 3.
  6. [S1396] Burke's Peerage & Gentry Web Site, online http://www.burkes-peerage.net/sites/peerageandgentry/sitepages/home.asp, Stafford Family Page. Hereinafter cited as Burke's Peerage & Gentry Web Site.
  7. [S1702] The Henry Project: The ancestors of king Henry II of England, An experiment in cooperative medieval genealogy on the internet (now hosted by the American Society of Genealogists, ASG), online https://fasg.org/projects/henryproject/, "Godehilde's first husband, Roger de Tosny, was married twice, and this presents some problems. One is the obvious one of deciding which of Roger's children were by Godehilde. Another problem has been caused by the careless identification by some of Roger's two wives, with the result that Godehilde has been assigned the parentage of Roger's first wife.". Hereinafter cited as The Henry Project.
  8. [S812] e-mail address, updated 4 Apr 2002, http://worldconnect.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/igm.cgi?op=GET&db=bferris&id=I1187
  9. [S1427] Richard Fletcher, The Quest for El Cid (New York: Oxford University Press, 1989/1990), p. 78. Hereinafter cited as Fletcher [1990] The Quest for El Cid.
  10. [S757] Compiled by Carl Boyer 3rd, Boyer [2001] Med English Ancestors, pp. 240-241, de TOENI 4:i.
  11. [S757] Compiled by Carl Boyer 3rd, Boyer [2001] Med English Ancestors, pp. 240-241, de TOENI 4:ii.
  12. [S757] Compiled by Carl Boyer 3rd, Boyer [2001] Med English Ancestors, pp. 240-241, de TOENI 4:v.
  13. [S757] Compiled by Carl Boyer 3rd, Boyer [2001] Med English Ancestors, pp. 240-241, de TOENI 4:vi.
  14. [S757] Compiled by Carl Boyer 3rd, Boyer [2001] Med English Ancestors, pp. 240-241, de TOENI 4:vii.
  15. [S757] Compiled by Carl Boyer 3rd, Boyer [2001] Med English Ancestors, pp. 240-241, de TOENI 4:ix.
  16. [S757] Compiled by Carl Boyer 3rd, Boyer [2001] Med English Ancestors, pp. 240-241, de TOENI 4:x.
  17. [S757] Compiled by Carl Boyer 3rd, Boyer [2001] Med English Ancestors, pp. 240-241, de TOENI 4:iii and 5.
  18. [S2164] Roglo Genealogical database, online http://roglo.eu/roglo, Raoul de Toëny: http://geneweb.inria.fr/roglo?lang=en;i=102183. Hereinafter cited as Roglo Database.
  19. [S2164] Roglo Database, online http://roglo.eu/roglo, Raoul de Toëny: http://geneweb.inria.fr/roglo?lang=en;i=102180.
  20. [S757] Compiled by Carl Boyer 3rd, Boyer [2001] Med English Ancestors, pp. 240-241, de TOENI 4:viii.

Guillaume d'Evreux1,2,3,4

M, #14758
FatherRobert d'Évreux Comte d'Évreux, Archbishop of Rouen1,3,4,5,6,7,8 b. bt 965 - 974, d. 1037
MotherHerleva (Havlive) (?)1,3,4,9,10 b. c 986, d. 1037
Last Edited19 Nov 2020
     Guillaume d'Evreux married Havoise Giroie, daughter of Guillaume Giroie (Gérouin) (?) seigneur de Montreuil-L’Argillé et d’Echauffour and Gisla (Gisèle) (?) de Bastembourg,
; her 2nd husband.3,4
      ; Leo van de Pas cites: Europäische Stammtafeln, J.A. Stargardt Verlag Marburg., Detlev Schwennicke, Editor, Reference: II 79.3

Family

Havoise Giroie b. 1010
Children

Citations

  1. [S757] Compiled by Carl Boyer 3rd, Medieval English Ancestors of Certain Americans: Many of the English Ancestral Lines Prior to 1300 of those Colonial Americans with known Royal Ancestry but Fully Developed in all Possible Lines (PO Box 220333, Santa Clarita, CA 91322-0333: Carl Boyer 3rd, 2001), p. 68, DEVEREUX 1:ii. Hereinafter cited as Boyer [2001] Med English Ancestors.
  2. [S1490] Genealogics Website (oiginated by Leo van de Pas, continued by Ian Fettes), online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Emma d'Evreux: http://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00164580&tree=LEO. Hereinafter cited as Genealogics Website.
  3. [S1490] Genealogics Website, online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Guillaume d'Evreux: http://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00165073&tree=LEO
  4. [S2280] Racines et Histoire, online http://racineshistoire.free.fr/LGN/LGN-frameset.html, http://racineshistoire.free.fr/LGN/PDF/Bertran.pdf, p. 8. Hereinafter cited as Racines et Histoire.
  5. [S1490] Genealogics Website, online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Robert of Normandy: https://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00079537&tree=LEO
  6. [S2203] Foundation for Medieval Genealogy (FMG): MEDIEVAL LANDS - A prosopography of medieval European noble and royal families, online http://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/index.htm, https://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/NORMANDY%20NOBILITY.htm#RobertEvreuxdied1037B. Hereinafter cited as FMG Medieval Lands Website.
  7. [S1702] The Henry Project: The ancestors of king Henry II of England, An experiment in cooperative medieval genealogy on the internet (now hosted by the American Society of Genealogists, ASG), online https://fasg.org/projects/henryproject/, Robert, archbishop of Rouen and count of Évreux: https://fasg.org/projects/henryproject/data/rober001.htm. Hereinafter cited as The Henry Project.
  8. [S2280] Racines et Histoire, online http://racineshistoire.free.fr/LGN/LGN-frameset.html, Comtes d’ Evreux & Famille Devereux, p. 2: http://racineshistoire.free.fr/LGN/PDF/Evreux.pdf
  9. [S1490] Genealogics Website, online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Herleve: https://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00079538&tree=LEO
  10. [S1702] The Henry Project, online https://fasg.org/projects/henryproject/, Herleve: https://fasg.org/projects/henryproject/data/herle001.htm
  11. [S1490] Genealogics Website, online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Delieri/Judith d'Evreux: https://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00080259&tree=LEO
  12. [S2203] FMG Medieval Lands Website, online http://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/index.htm, https://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/NORMANDY%20NOBILITY.htm

Ralph d'Evreux1

M, #14759, b. circa 1004
FatherRobert d'Évreux Comte d'Évreux, Archbishop of Rouen1,2 b. bt 965 - 974, d. 1037
MotherHerleva (Havlive) (?)1 b. c 986, d. 1037
Last Edited19 Nov 2020
     Ralph d'Evreux was born circa 1004.1

Citations

  1. [S757] Compiled by Carl Boyer 3rd, Medieval English Ancestors of Certain Americans: Many of the English Ancestral Lines Prior to 1300 of those Colonial Americans with known Royal Ancestry but Fully Developed in all Possible Lines (PO Box 220333, Santa Clarita, CA 91322-0333: Carl Boyer 3rd, 2001), p. 68, DEVEREUX 1:iii. Hereinafter cited as Boyer [2001] Med English Ancestors.
  2. [S2280] Racines et Histoire, online http://racineshistoire.free.fr/LGN/LGN-frameset.html, Comtes d’ Evreux & Famille Devereux, p. 2: http://racineshistoire.free.fr/LGN/PDF/Evreux.pdf. Hereinafter cited as Racines et Histoire.

Robert d'Evreux 3rd Comte d'Evreux1,2

M, #14760, b. circa 1008
FatherRobert d'Évreux Comte d'Évreux, Archbishop of Rouen1,3 b. bt 965 - 974, d. 1037
ReferenceGAV27
Last Edited19 Nov 2020
     Robert d'Evreux 3rd Comte d'Evreux married Hawyse de Lacy.2
Robert d'Evreux 3rd Comte d'Evreux was born circa 1008.1
     GAV-27.

Citations

  1. [S757] Compiled by Carl Boyer 3rd, Medieval English Ancestors of Certain Americans: Many of the English Ancestral Lines Prior to 1300 of those Colonial Americans with known Royal Ancestry but Fully Developed in all Possible Lines (PO Box 220333, Santa Clarita, CA 91322-0333: Carl Boyer 3rd, 2001), p. 68, DEVEREUX 1:. Hereinafter cited as Boyer [2001] Med English Ancestors.
  2. [S757] Compiled by Carl Boyer 3rd, Boyer [2001] Med English Ancestors, p. 68, DEVEREUX 3.
  3. [S2280] Racines et Histoire, online http://racineshistoire.free.fr/LGN/LGN-frameset.html, Comtes d’ Evreux & Famille Devereux, p. 2: http://racineshistoire.free.fr/LGN/PDF/Evreux.pdf. Hereinafter cited as Racines et Histoire.
  4. [S757] Compiled by Carl Boyer 3rd, Boyer [2001] Med English Ancestors, p. 68, DEVEREUX 4.