Otto von Northeim1

M, #94651
FatherOtto I von Northeim Graf von Northeim, Duke in Bavaria1,2 b. c 1025, d. 11 Jan 1083
MotherRichenza (?) von Schwaben1,3 d. b 11 Jan 1083
Last Edited17 Jun 2020
     Reference: Genealogics cites: Europäische Stammtafeln, J.A. Stargardt Verlag Marburg., Detlev Schwennicke, Editor, Reference: VIII 132.

; d. young.1

Citations

  1. [S1490] Genealogics Website (oiginated by Leo van de Pas, continued by Ian Fettes), online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Otto von Northeim: https://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00570041&tree=LEO. Hereinafter cited as Genealogics Website.
  2. [S2203] Foundation for Medieval Genealogy (FMG): MEDIEVAL LANDS - A prosopography of medieval European noble and royal families, online http://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/index.htm, https://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/SAXON%20NOBILITY.htm#Ottodied1083. Hereinafter cited as FMG Medieval Lands Website.
  3. [S1490] Genealogics Website, online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Richenza: https://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00060575&tree=LEO

Siegfried III von Northeim Graf von Boyneburg1

M, #94652, b. circa 1053, d. circa 1107
FatherOtto I von Northeim Graf von Northeim, Duke in Bavaria1,2 b. c 1025, d. 11 Jan 1083
MotherRichenza (?) von Schwaben1,3 d. b 11 Jan 1083
Last Edited17 Jun 2020
     Siegfried III von Northeim Graf von Boyneburg married Adelheid von Holstein.4
Siegfried III von Northeim Graf von Boyneburg was born circa 1053.1
Siegfried III von Northeim Graf von Boyneburg died circa 1107.1
      ; Per Genealogics:
     “Siegfried was the son of Otto I von Northeim, Graf von Northeim, Herzog in Bayern, and Richenza von Schwaben. He was Graf von Boyneburg from 1083 to his death.
     “With his wife Adelheid von Holstein he had a son Siegfried IV and a daughter Richenza who both would have progeny.
     “Siegfried and his brother Kuno, Graf von Beichlingen, were involved in the revolt against Emperor Heinrich IV and became his hostages in 1075/6, but they later became his loyal supporters. Siegfried was Graf im Hessengau, Nethegau and Ittergau, and steward of the abbeys of Corvey and Northeim. In 1089 he was judge over Ekbert II, Graf von Braunschweig, Markgraf von Meissen, and pronounced his banishment. Ekbert died the following year. His sister Gertrud would marry Siegfried's brother Heinrich 'der Fette' von Northeim, Markgraf in Friesland. Her second husband Heinrich I, Graf von Eilenburg, and son Heinrich II would become margraves of Meissen through her. Siegfried died about 1107.”.1

Reference: Genealogics cites: Europäische Stammtafeln, Band III, Frank Baron Freytag von Loringhoven, 1976, Isenburg, W. K. Prinz von. 49.1

Family

Adelheid von Holstein

Citations

  1. [S1490] Genealogics Website (oiginated by Leo van de Pas, continued by Ian Fettes), online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Siegfried III von Northeim: https://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00105681&tree=LEO. Hereinafter cited as Genealogics Website.
  2. [S2203] Foundation for Medieval Genealogy (FMG): MEDIEVAL LANDS - A prosopography of medieval European noble and royal families, online http://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/index.htm, https://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/SAXON%20NOBILITY.htm#Ottodied1083. Hereinafter cited as FMG Medieval Lands Website.
  3. [S1490] Genealogics Website, online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Richenza: https://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00060575&tree=LEO
  4. [S1490] Genealogics Website, online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Adelheid von Holstein: https://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00570040&tree=LEO

Udalardo II (?) Vizconde de Barcelona1

M, #94654, d. between 1077 and 1080
FatherUdalardo I (?) Vizconde de Barcelona1
MotherRiquilda (?) of Barcelona1 d. a 1041
Last Edited17 Jun 2020
     Udalardo II (?) Vizconde de Barcelona married Gisela de Lluçà, daughter of Sunifredo II de Lluca Señor de Lluca y Vilanova and Ermesonda de Balsareny, in 1054
;
Her 2nd husband.1,2
Udalardo II (?) Vizconde de Barcelona died between 1077 and 1080.1

Family

Gisela de Lluçà d. a 1079

Citations

  1. [S4760] Wikipédia - Llaenciclopedia libre, online https://es.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Portada, Udalardo II de Barcelona: https://es.wikipedia.org/wiki/Udalardo_II_de_Barcelona. Hereinafter cited as Wikipedia (ES).
  2. [S4760] Wikipedia (ES), online https://es.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Portada, Guisla de Lluçà: https://es.wikipedia.org/wiki/Guisla_de_Llu%C3%A7%C3%A0

NN de Ponthieu1

F, #94655
FatherHugues II (?) comte de Ponthieu et de Montreuil, seigneur d'Abbeville, avoué de St-Riquier1,2,3 b. c 1020, d. 20 Nov 1052
MotherBertha (?) Dame d'Aumâle1 b. c 1015
Last Edited19 Jun 2020
     NN de Ponthieu married Guillaume de Normandie Comte de Talou, Comte d’Arques, son of Richard II "The Good" (?) Duke of Normandy and Papia/Poppa (?).4,1,5,6

     Reference: Genealogics cites: Europäische Stammtafeln, J.A. Stargardt Verlag, Marburg, Schwennicke, Detlev (Ed.) 2:79.1

; Per Med Lands:
     "GUILLAUME de Normandie, son of RICHARD II "le Bon/l'Irascible" Duke of Normandy & his second wife Papia [Poppa] --- ([1020/26]-[Boulogne] after [1054]). Guillaume of Jumièges records that Duke Richard II married secondly, after the death of his first wife, “Papiam” by whom he had “Malgerium...archipræsulem et Willelmum Archacensem”, adding that the latter was granted “comitatum Talogi” by Duke Guillaume II who was “iam in adolescentia” and built “castrum Archarum in cacumine ipsius montis”[2]. Orderic Vitalis calls him brother of Mauger, and specifies that Duke Guillaume II invested him as Comte de Talou[3]. “Willelmus...comes filius...Ricardi Normannorum quondam ducis” restored “insulam in fluvio magno Secane...Belcinaca...ecclesias eciam Vatheuille et Brotonii” to Saint-Wandrille by charter dated to [1032/47], subscribed by “Godofredi vicecomitis, comitis, Walterus filius, Lambertus, Willelmus, Osbernus”[4]. "Vuillelmus Ricardi magni ducis Normannorum filius" donated property to the abbey of Jumièges by charter dated to [1040][5]. Comte d’Arques: "Guillelmus Archensis comes et frater meus Malgerius Archiepiscopus" donated the vill of Periers sur Andelle to the monastery of Saint-Ouen at Rouen, at the request of "matris mee Paveie" and the consent of "Guilielmo Normannorum comite", by charter dated to [1047/50][6]. Guillaume II Duke of Normandy confirmed the donation of “ecclesias...in maris Constantini pagi...” made by “Roberto...Hunfredi...filio” to Saint-Wandrille by charter dated to [1035/53], subscribed by “Roberti filii Hunfredi, Rogeri fratris eius, Anscetilli, Willelmi filii Ricardi secundi Normannorum ducis, Rogerii filii Radulfi de Warethna, Rogerii filii Ragnulfi, Gilleberti Crispin, Willelmi Guiet”[7]. Guillaume of Jumièges records that “Willelmum Archacensem” rebelled against Duke Guillaume, helped by Henri I King of France, that “Ingelrannus Abbatisvillæ comes...ac Hugo cognomento Bardulfus” were killed by the duke´s forces, and that Guillaume left “cum uxore sua sorore...Widonis comitis Pontivi” and was welcomed by “Eustachium Boloniæ comitem” with whom he remained in exile until he died[8]. William of Malmesbury records that Guillaume II captured the fortress of Arques, and Guillaume went into exile in [1054][9]. No record has been found of his having left descendants.
     "m --- de Ponthieu, daughter of HUGUES [II] Comte de Ponthieu & his wife Berthe d'Aumâle. Guillaume of Jumièges records that “Willelmum Archacensem” went into exile “cum uxore sua sorore...Widonis comitis Pontivi” after his rebellion was crushed by Duke Guillaume II and found refuge with “Eustachium Boloniæ comitem” with whom he remained in exile until he died[10]."
Med Lands cites:
[2] Willelmi Gemmetencis Historiæ (Du Chesne, 1619), Liber VII, VII, p. 270.
[3] Orderic Vitalis (Chibnall), Vol. IV, Book VII, p. 85.
[4] Saint-Wandrille, 15, p. 56.
[5] Jumièges, Vol. I, 20, p. 63.
[6] Gurney (1845), p. 43, quoting originals in the Archives de Rouen.
[7] Saint-Wandrille, 19, p. 62.
[8] Willelmi Gemmetencis Historiæ (Du Chesne, 1619), Liber VII, VII, p. 270.
[9] Malmesbury, 232, pp. 221-2.
[10] Willelmi Gemmetencis Historiæ (Du Chesne, 1619), Liber VII, VII, p. 270.4

Family

Guillaume de Normandie Comte de Talou, Comte d’Arques b. bt 1020 - 1026, d. a 1054

Citations

  1. [S1490] Genealogics Website (oiginated by Leo van de Pas, continued by Ian Fettes), online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, NN de Ponthieu: https://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00139689&tree=LEO. Hereinafter cited as Genealogics Website.
  2. [S2280] Racines et Histoire, online http://racineshistoire.free.fr/LGN/LGN-frameset.html, Seigneurs puis comtes d’ Aumale & Aumale (Picardie), p. 2: http://racineshistoire.free.fr/LGN/PDF/Aumale.pdf. Hereinafter cited as Racines et Histoire.
  3. [S2203] Foundation for Medieval Genealogy (FMG): MEDIEVAL LANDS - A prosopography of medieval European noble and royal families, online http://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/index.htm, https://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/nfraamp.htm#HuguesPonthieudied1052B. Hereinafter cited as FMG Medieval Lands Website.
  4. [S2203] FMG Medieval Lands Website, online http://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/index.htm, https://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/normacre.htm#GuillaumeTaloudied1054
  5. [S2203] FMG Medieval Lands Website, online http://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/index.htm, https://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/nfraamp.htm#dauHuguesPonthieuMGuillaumeNormArques
  6. [S1490] Genealogics Website, online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Guillaume: https://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00139688&tree=LEO

Guillaume de Normandie Comte de Talou, Comte d’Arques1

M, #94656, b. between 1020 and 1026, d. after 1054
FatherRichard II "The Good" (?) Duke of Normandy1,2 b. 23 Aug 963, d. 23 Aug 1027
MotherPapia/Poppa (?)1,2
Last Edited19 Jun 2020
     Guillaume de Normandie Comte de Talou, Comte d’Arques married NN de Ponthieu, daughter of Hugues II (?) comte de Ponthieu et de Montreuil, seigneur d'Abbeville, avoué de St-Riquier and Bertha (?) Dame d'Aumâle.1,3,4,2
Guillaume de Normandie Comte de Talou, Comte d’Arques was born between 1020 and 1026.1
Guillaume de Normandie Comte de Talou, Comte d’Arques died after 1054 at Boulogne, Departement de Pas-de-Calais, Hauts-de-France, France (now).1
     Reference: Genealogics cites: Europäische Stammtafeln, J.A. Stargardt Verlag, Marburg, Schwennicke, Detlev (Ed.) 2:79.2

; Per Med Lands:
     "GUILLAUME de Normandie, son of RICHARD II "le Bon/l'Irascible" Duke of Normandy & his second wife Papia [Poppa] --- ([1020/26]-[Boulogne] after [1054]). Guillaume of Jumièges records that Duke Richard II married secondly, after the death of his first wife, “Papiam” by whom he had “Malgerium...archipræsulem et Willelmum Archacensem”, adding that the latter was granted “comitatum Talogi” by Duke Guillaume II who was “iam in adolescentia” and built “castrum Archarum in cacumine ipsius montis”[2]. Orderic Vitalis calls him brother of Mauger, and specifies that Duke Guillaume II invested him as Comte de Talou[3]. “Willelmus...comes filius...Ricardi Normannorum quondam ducis” restored “insulam in fluvio magno Secane...Belcinaca...ecclesias eciam Vatheuille et Brotonii” to Saint-Wandrille by charter dated to [1032/47], subscribed by “Godofredi vicecomitis, comitis, Walterus filius, Lambertus, Willelmus, Osbernus”[4]. "Vuillelmus Ricardi magni ducis Normannorum filius" donated property to the abbey of Jumièges by charter dated to [1040][5]. Comte d’Arques: "Guillelmus Archensis comes et frater meus Malgerius Archiepiscopus" donated the vill of Periers sur Andelle to the monastery of Saint-Ouen at Rouen, at the request of "matris mee Paveie" and the consent of "Guilielmo Normannorum comite", by charter dated to [1047/50][6]. Guillaume II Duke of Normandy confirmed the donation of “ecclesias...in maris Constantini pagi...” made by “Roberto...Hunfredi...filio” to Saint-Wandrille by charter dated to [1035/53], subscribed by “Roberti filii Hunfredi, Rogeri fratris eius, Anscetilli, Willelmi filii Ricardi secundi Normannorum ducis, Rogerii filii Radulfi de Warethna, Rogerii filii Ragnulfi, Gilleberti Crispin, Willelmi Guiet”[7]. Guillaume of Jumièges records that “Willelmum Archacensem” rebelled against Duke Guillaume, helped by Henri I King of France, that “Ingelrannus Abbatisvillæ comes...ac Hugo cognomento Bardulfus” were killed by the duke´s forces, and that Guillaume left “cum uxore sua sorore...Widonis comitis Pontivi” and was welcomed by “Eustachium Boloniæ comitem” with whom he remained in exile until he died[8]. William of Malmesbury records that Guillaume II captured the fortress of Arques, and Guillaume went into exile in [1054][9]. No record has been found of his having left descendants.
     "m --- de Ponthieu, daughter of HUGUES [II] Comte de Ponthieu & his wife Berthe d'Aumâle. Guillaume of Jumièges records that “Willelmum Archacensem” went into exile “cum uxore sua sorore...Widonis comitis Pontivi” after his rebellion was crushed by Duke Guillaume II and found refuge with “Eustachium Boloniæ comitem” with whom he remained in exile until he died[10]."
Med Lands cites:
[2] Willelmi Gemmetencis Historiæ (Du Chesne, 1619), Liber VII, VII, p. 270.
[3] Orderic Vitalis (Chibnall), Vol. IV, Book VII, p. 85.
[4] Saint-Wandrille, 15, p. 56.
[5] Jumièges, Vol. I, 20, p. 63.
[6] Gurney (1845), p. 43, quoting originals in the Archives de Rouen.
[7] Saint-Wandrille, 19, p. 62.
[8] Willelmi Gemmetencis Historiæ (Du Chesne, 1619), Liber VII, VII, p. 270.
[9] Malmesbury, 232, pp. 221-2.
[10] Willelmi Gemmetencis Historiæ (Du Chesne, 1619), Liber VII, VII, p. 270.1
He was living in 1035.2

Citations

  1. [S2203] Foundation for Medieval Genealogy (FMG): MEDIEVAL LANDS - A prosopography of medieval European noble and royal families, online http://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/index.htm, https://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/normacre.htm#GuillaumeTaloudied1054. Hereinafter cited as FMG Medieval Lands Website.
  2. [S1490] Genealogics Website (oiginated by Leo van de Pas, continued by Ian Fettes), online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Guillaume: https://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00139688&tree=LEO. Hereinafter cited as Genealogics Website.
  3. [S1490] Genealogics Website, online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, NN de Ponthieu: https://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00139689&tree=LEO
  4. [S2203] FMG Medieval Lands Website, online http://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/index.htm, https://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/nfraamp.htm#dauHuguesPonthieuMGuillaumeNormArques

Eldin de Jaligny1

M, #94657
ReferenceGAV29
Last Edited23 Jun 2020
     GAV-29.

Citations

  1. [S2203] Foundation for Medieval Genealogy (FMG): MEDIEVAL LANDS - A prosopography of medieval European noble and royal families, online http://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/index.htm, https://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/BOURBON.htm#GuillaumeJalignyMErmengardeBourbon. Hereinafter cited as FMG Medieval Lands Website.

Isambart III de Châtelaillon1,2

M, #94658
Last Edited20 Jun 2020
     ; See attached diagram showing the lijneag from Bardas Phokas to Rupen 1 - from Wikipédia (Fr.) This chart is based on the work of Settipani [2006].3,4

; Per Med Lands:
     "ISEMBART [III] de Châtelaillon, son of SENDEBAUD de Châtelaillon & his wife Agnes --- . "Rorgo et Tetbaldus frater meus" donated property "villa…Alliacum in territorio Calviniaci castri situm" to St Cyprien by charter dated [1090] subscribed by "Isemberti Sennebaudi et fratris suis Petri"[548].
     "m ---. The name of Isembart's wife is not known."
Med Lands cites: [548] Poitiers Saint-Cyprien 213, p. 139.2

Reference: Genealogics cites: Burke's Guide to the Royal Family, London, 1973.1

Family

Child

Citations

  1. [S1490] Genealogics Website (oiginated by Leo van de Pas, continued by Ian Fettes), online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Isambart de Châtel Aillon: https://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00020353&tree=LEO. Hereinafter cited as Genealogics Website.
  2. [S2203] Foundation for Medieval Genealogy (FMG): MEDIEVAL LANDS - A prosopography of medieval European noble and royal families, online http://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/index.htm, https://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/poitwest.htm#IsembartChatelaillonB. Hereinafter cited as FMG Medieval Lands Website.
  3. [S4742] Wikipédia - L'encyclopédie libre, online https://fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikip%C3%A9dia:Accueil_principal, Roupen Ier: https://fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Roupen_Ier. Hereinafter cited as Wikipédia (FR).
  4. [S4755] Christian Settipani, Continuité des élites à Byzance durant les siècles obscurs. Les princes caucasiens et l'Empire du vie au ixe siècle (Paris: de Bocard, 2006). Hereinafter cited as Settipani [2006] Continuité des élites à Byzance.
  5. [S2203] FMG Medieval Lands Website, online http://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/index.htm, https://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/poitwest.htm#OrengardeMFoulquesAnjou

Arnold von Diessen Graf von Diessen1

M, #94659
FatherFrederich III von Diessen Graf von Diessen1 d. 23 Jan 1075
MotherIrmingard von Gilching1 b. c 998
ReferenceEDV28
Last Edited12 Nov 2020
     Arnold von Diessen Graf von Diessen married Gisela von Schwaben, daughter of Otto III (?) Duke of Schwaben, Markgraf von Schweinfurt and Irmingard de Susa,
;
Her 2nd husband.1
Arnold von Diessen Graf von Diessen was buried after 8 February 1091 at Atile .1
     EDV-28.

; Per Med Lands:
     "ARNOLD von Diessen, son of [FRIEDRICH [III] Graf von Diessen & his [first] wife [Irmgard] von [Gilching] (-8 Feb after 1091, bur Atile). Arnold being the brother of Konrad and Friedrich is deduced from the list of names in the De Fundatoribus referred to above. Graf von Diessen 1070/91. Hallgraf 1063/1080. The necrology of Diessen records the death "Feb VI Id" of "Arnoldus com sepultus Atile pater comitis Bertoldi fundatoris nostri"[653].
     "m [as her second husband,] GISELA, [widow of ---], daughter of --- (-22 Feb ----). The De Fundatoribus Monasterii Diessenses names "Gisila cometissa" immediately after "Arnoldus comes" in a long list of names linked with this family, which suggests that she was Arnold's wife although no relationship is specified[654]. The relationship is confirmed by the necrology of Diessen recording the death "Mar VIII Kal" of "Gisila com uxor comitis Arnoldi"[655]. Wegener suggests that Gisela was the wife of Graf Berthold, presumably Graf Berthold [II] shown below, and that the couple were the parents of Graf Berthold [III]. He explains the reference to Arnold in the necrology as an error on the part of the 13th century compiler. This explanation appears to be rather a desperate attempt to make the facts fit the author's theory, which in any case apparently ignores the evidence from other sources which points to Gisela being Arnold's wife and Arnold, not Berthold [II], being Berthold [III]'s father. According to Europäische Stammtafeln[656], Arnold's wife Gisela was Gisela von Schweinfurt, daughter of Otto Markgraf von Schweinfurt Duke of Swabia & his wife Irmgard [Aemilia/Immula] di Susa, who married secondly as his first wife, Wichmann Graf von Seeburg. Wegener also identifies Gisela as the daughter of Markgraf Otto[657], citing in support the Kastler Reimchronik of [1323/24] according to which Sophie, daughter of "Graf Otto", married a Graf von Andechs[658]. As this is the only reference to Otto Markgraf von Schweinfurt having a daughter named Sophie, Wegener identifies her with Gisela, in another apparent attempt to make the facts fit his theory. Presumably the compiler of Europäische Stammtafeln adopted the same solution without too much enquiry into the background. The Annalista Saxo, however, names Gisela as one of the five daughters of Otto von Schweinfurt and assigns "Wigmanno comiti de Seburch" as her only husband[659]. Gisela's being described as "uxor comitis Arnoldi" in the Diessen necrology suggests that she predeceased Arnold, or at least that Arnold had been her only husband. In addition, if she had left Bavaria for Saxony to marry a second time it is less likely that her death would have been recorded at Diessen. There is also a strong chronological argument against any supposed first marriage of Gisela von Schweinfurt. Arnold Graf von Diessen died after 1091. This raised the unlikely prospect that Wichmann Graf von Seeberg married, as his first wife, a widow probably in her late 30s/early 40s with limited prospects of further child-bearing. The case against Graf Berthold [II] as her first husband is conclusive as Graf Berthold was still alive in [1100] (see below) whereas Graf Wichmann married his second wife (presumably after the death of Gisela) in [1096]. In conclusion, therefore, it appears appropriate to dismiss definitively the supposed Schweinfurt origin of the wife of Graf Arnold. There is, on the other hand, another possibility which deserves consideration. This is that Graf Arnold was in fact Gisela's second husband. Europäische Stammtafeln[660] shows five children Gebhard, Friedrich Rocho, Otto, Dietrich and Adelheid as possible children of Graf Arnold (see GRAFEN von WASSERBURG). The necrology of Diessen reveals that at least three of them, Gebhard, Otto and Dietrich, were brothers of "Berhtoldi comitis fundatoris nostri". The same source explicitly states that Berthold was the son of Graf Arnold. The difficulty lies with the chronology. As is shown under the Grafen von Andechs, it is likely that Berthold was born towards the end of his father's life, assuming that there was not a large difference of age between Berthold and his first wife, and who is therefore unlikely to have been born much before [1095/98]. On the other hand, the dates of death of three of the other possible children indicate that they are unlikely to have been born after the early 1070s. If all were full brothers, it is puzzling why Berthold, a younger brother, should have inherited the most important of their father's counties. One possible explanation is that the other children were Graf Berthold's uterine brothers, born from an earlier marriage of their mother. This could also explain the sudden appearance of the name "Gebhard" into the family, unused before this time. It would also explain why the necrology of Diessen names Graf Berthold's father while recording that Gebhard and Dietrich were "brothers of Berthold" without naming their father."
Med Lands cites:
[653] Necrologium Diessense, Augsburg Necrologies, p. 7.
[654] De Fundatoribus Monasterii Diessenses I, MGH SS XVII, p. 328.
[655] Necrologium Diessense, Augsburg Necrologies, p. 7.
[656] ES I.1 86B.
[657] Wegener (1965/67), p. 151.
[658] Moritz (1833), Vol. II, Zweite Beilage, Deutsche Reimchronik des Klosters Kastel, p. 136, line 293, cited in Wegener (1965/67), p. 151.
[659] Annalista Saxo 1036.
[660] ES I.1 86B.1

Citations

  1. [S2203] Foundation for Medieval Genealogy (FMG): MEDIEVAL LANDS - A prosopography of medieval European noble and royal families, online http://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/index.htm, https://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/BAVARIAN%20NOBILITY.htm#BertholdAndechsDiessendied1151A. Hereinafter cited as FMG Medieval Lands Website.
  2. [S2203] FMG Medieval Lands Website, online http://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/index.htm, https://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/BAVARIAN%20NOBILITY.htm#BertholdAndechsDiessendied1151

Gisela von Schwaben1,2

F, #94660
FatherOtto III (?) Duke of Schwaben, Markgraf von Schweinfurt2,3,4 b. c 1000, d. 28 Sep 1057
MotherIrmingard de Susa2,5,4 b. c 1022, d. 28 Jan 1078
ReferenceEDV28
Last Edited13 Nov 2020
     Gisela von Schwaben married Arnold von Diessen Graf von Diessen, son of Frederich III von Diessen Graf von Diessen and Irmingard von Gilching,
;
Her 2nd husband.1
      ; Per Med Lands:
     "ARNOLD von Diessen, son of [FRIEDRICH [III] Graf von Diessen & his [first] wife [Irmgard] von [Gilching] (-8 Feb after 1091, bur Atile). Arnold being the brother of Konrad and Friedrich is deduced from the list of names in the De Fundatoribus referred to above. Graf von Diessen 1070/91. Hallgraf 1063/1080. The necrology of Diessen records the death "Feb VI Id" of "Arnoldus com sepultus Atile pater comitis Bertoldi fundatoris nostri"[653].
     "m [as her second husband,] GISELA, [widow of ---], daughter of --- (-22 Feb ----). The De Fundatoribus Monasterii Diessenses names "Gisila cometissa" immediately after "Arnoldus comes" in a long list of names linked with this family, which suggests that she was Arnold's wife although no relationship is specified[654]. The relationship is confirmed by the necrology of Diessen recording the death "Mar VIII Kal" of "Gisila com uxor comitis Arnoldi"[655]. Wegener suggests that Gisela was the wife of Graf Berthold, presumably Graf Berthold [II] shown below, and that the couple were the parents of Graf Berthold [III]. He explains the reference to Arnold in the necrology as an error on the part of the 13th century compiler. This explanation appears to be rather a desperate attempt to make the facts fit the author's theory, which in any case apparently ignores the evidence from other sources which points to Gisela being Arnold's wife and Arnold, not Berthold [II], being Berthold [III]'s father. According to Europäische Stammtafeln[656], Arnold's wife Gisela was Gisela von Schweinfurt, daughter of Otto Markgraf von Schweinfurt Duke of Swabia & his wife Irmgard [Aemilia/Immula] di Susa, who married secondly as his first wife, Wichmann Graf von Seeburg. Wegener also identifies Gisela as the daughter of Markgraf Otto[657], citing in support the Kastler Reimchronik of [1323/24] according to which Sophie, daughter of "Graf Otto", married a Graf von Andechs[658]. As this is the only reference to Otto Markgraf von Schweinfurt having a daughter named Sophie, Wegener identifies her with Gisela, in another apparent attempt to make the facts fit his theory. Presumably the compiler of Europäische Stammtafeln adopted the same solution without too much enquiry into the background. The Annalista Saxo, however, names Gisela as one of the five daughters of Otto von Schweinfurt and assigns "Wigmanno comiti de Seburch" as her only husband[659]. Gisela's being described as "uxor comitis Arnoldi" in the Diessen necrology suggests that she predeceased Arnold, or at least that Arnold had been her only husband. In addition, if she had left Bavaria for Saxony to marry a second time it is less likely that her death would have been recorded at Diessen. There is also a strong chronological argument against any supposed first marriage of Gisela von Schweinfurt. Arnold Graf von Diessen died after 1091. This raised the unlikely prospect that Wichmann Graf von Seeberg married, as his first wife, a widow probably in her late 30s/early 40s with limited prospects of further child-bearing. The case against Graf Berthold [II] as her first husband is conclusive as Graf Berthold was still alive in [1100] (see below) whereas Graf Wichmann married his second wife (presumably after the death of Gisela) in [1096]. In conclusion, therefore, it appears appropriate to dismiss definitively the supposed Schweinfurt origin of the wife of Graf Arnold. There is, on the other hand, another possibility which deserves consideration. This is that Graf Arnold was in fact Gisela's second husband. Europäische Stammtafeln[660] shows five children Gebhard, Friedrich Rocho, Otto, Dietrich and Adelheid as possible children of Graf Arnold (see GRAFEN von WASSERBURG). The necrology of Diessen reveals that at least three of them, Gebhard, Otto and Dietrich, were brothers of "Berhtoldi comitis fundatoris nostri". The same source explicitly states that Berthold was the son of Graf Arnold. The difficulty lies with the chronology. As is shown under the Grafen von Andechs, it is likely that Berthold was born towards the end of his father's life, assuming that there was not a large difference of age between Berthold and his first wife, and who is therefore unlikely to have been born much before [1095/98]. On the other hand, the dates of death of three of the other possible children indicate that they are unlikely to have been born after the early 1070s. If all were full brothers, it is puzzling why Berthold, a younger brother, should have inherited the most important of their father's counties. One possible explanation is that the other children were Graf Berthold's uterine brothers, born from an earlier marriage of their mother. This could also explain the sudden appearance of the name "Gebhard" into the family, unused before this time. It would also explain why the necrology of Diessen names Graf Berthold's father while recording that Gebhard and Dietrich were "brothers of Berthold" without naming their father."
Med Lands cites:
[653] Necrologium Diessense, Augsburg Necrologies, p. 7.
[654] De Fundatoribus Monasterii Diessenses I, MGH SS XVII, p. 328.
[655] Necrologium Diessense, Augsburg Necrologies, p. 7.
[656] ES I.1 86B.
[657] Wegener (1965/67), p. 151.
[658] Moritz (1833), Vol. II, Zweite Beilage, Deutsche Reimchronik des Klosters Kastel, p. 136, line 293, cited in Wegener (1965/67), p. 151.
[659] Annalista Saxo 1036.
[660] ES I.1 86B.1
EDV-28.

Citations

  1. [S2203] Foundation for Medieval Genealogy (FMG): MEDIEVAL LANDS - A prosopography of medieval European noble and royal families, online http://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/index.htm, https://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/BAVARIAN%20NOBILITY.htm#BertholdAndechsDiessendied1151A. Hereinafter cited as FMG Medieval Lands Website.
  2. [S1490] Genealogics Website (oiginated by Leo van de Pas, continued by Ian Fettes), online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Gisela von Schwaben: https://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00033344&tree=LEO. Hereinafter cited as Genealogics Website.
  3. [S1490] Genealogics Website, online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Otto: https://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00080002&tree=LEO
  4. [S2203] FMG Medieval Lands Website, online http://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/index.htm, https://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/BAVARIAN%20NOBILITY.htm#OttoSchweinfurtdied1057
  5. [S1490] Genealogics Website, online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Irmingard de Susa: https://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00080003&tree=LEO
  6. [S2203] FMG Medieval Lands Website, online http://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/index.htm, https://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/BAVARIAN%20NOBILITY.htm#BertholdAndechsDiessendied1151

Thomas Morieux/Moreux of Thorpe Morieux, co. Suffolk1

M, #94661
Last Edited22 Jun 2020

Citations

  1. [S2203] Foundation for Medieval Genealogy (FMG): MEDIEVAL LANDS - A prosopography of medieval European noble and royal families, online http://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/index.htm, https://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/ENGLAND,%20Kings%201066-1603.htm#JohnGauntdied1399B. Hereinafter cited as FMG Medieval Lands Website.

Mladen III Subic Knez of Klisa, Omisa and Scardona1

M, #94662, d. May 1348
Last Edited23 Jun 2020
     Mladen III Subic Knez of Klisa, Omisa and Scardona married Jelena/Lelika (?) of Serbia, daughter of Stefan Uros III Decanski (?) King of Serbia and Maria Palaiologina Queen of Serbia, in October 1347.2,1

Mladen III Subic Knez of Klisa, Omisa and Scardona died in May 1348.1
     Reference: Genealogics cites: Europäische Stammtafeln, J.A. Stargardt Verlag, Marburg, Schwennicke, Detlev (Ed.) 2:161.1

Family

Jelena/Lelika (?) of Serbia d. a 1355
Child

Citations

  1. [S1490] Genealogics Website (oiginated by Leo van de Pas, continued by Ian Fettes), online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Mladen III Subic; https://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00303869&tree=LEO. Hereinafter cited as Genealogics Website.
  2. [S1490] Genealogics Website, online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Jelena (Lelika) of Serbia: https://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00303870&tree=LEO

Jelena/Lelika (?) of Serbia1

F, #94663, d. after 1355
FatherStefan Uros III Decanski (?) King of Serbia2,1 b. c 1276, d. 11 Nov 1331
MotherMaria Palaiologina Queen of Serbia3 b. bt 1313 - 1314, d. 7 Apr 1355
Last Edited23 Jun 2020
     Jelena/Lelika (?) of Serbia married Mladen III Subic Knez of Klisa, Omisa and Scardona in October 1347.1,4

Jelena/Lelika (?) of Serbia died after 1355.1
     Reference: Genealogics cites: Europäische Stammtafeln, J.A. Stargardt Verlag, Marburg, Schwennicke, Detlev (Ed.) 2:161.1

Family

Mladen III Subic Knez of Klisa, Omisa and Scardona d. May 1348
Child

Citations

  1. [S1490] Genealogics Website (oiginated by Leo van de Pas, continued by Ian Fettes), online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Jelena (Lelika) of Serbia: https://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00303870&tree=LEO. Hereinafter cited as Genealogics Website.
  2. [S1490] Genealogics Website, online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Stefan Uros III Decanski: https://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00292999&tree=LEO
  3. [S1490] Genealogics Website, online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Maria Palaiologina: https://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00293000&tree=LEO
  4. [S1490] Genealogics Website, online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Mladen III Subic; https://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00303869&tree=LEO

Stefan Uros III Decanski (?) King of Serbia1

M, #94664, b. circa 1276, d. 11 November 1331
FatherStepan Uros II Milutin (?) King of Serbia1 b. c 1253, d. 29 Oct 1321
Last Edited23 Jun 2020
     Stefan Uros III Decanski (?) King of Serbia was born circa 1276.1 He married Teodora (?) of Bulgaria on 24 August 1293
;
His 1st wife.2 Stefan Uros III Decanski (?) King of Serbia married Maria Palaiologina Queen of Serbia, daughter of Ioannes Komnenos Palaiologos Despot of Macedonia and Eirene Metochitissa, between 1 November 1325 and 31 August 1326.3,1

Stefan Uros III Decanski (?) King of Serbia died on 11 November 1331 at Castle Zvecan.1
     Reference: Genealogics cites:
1. Europäische Stammtafeln, J.A. Stargardt Verlag, Marburg, Schwennicke, Detlev (Ed.) 2:161.
2. The Genealogist Published in New York.1


; This is the same person as ”Stefan De?anski” at Wikipedia.4

; Per Genealogics:
     “Stefan Uros III Decanski, king of Serbia, was born about 1276, the son of Stefan Uros II Milutin, ban of Serbia by a Bulgarian princess. Stefan reigned as king of Serbia from 1321 to 1331. He takes his name from the great monastery he built at Decani.
     “While still a youth, Stefan was sent by his father as a hostage to Nogai Khan, and on his return he was entrusted with the governorship of Zeta (Montenegro). He first married Teodora, daughter of Smilec, tsar of Bulgaria, with whom he had a son Stefan Dusan who succeeded him, and a daughter Dusica, neither of whom would have progeny. Then in 1325 or 1326 Stefan married Maria Paleologina, daughter of Ioannes Komnenos Palaiologos, despot of Macedonia, and Eirene Metochitissa. Stefan and Maria had two daughters, Jelena and Teodora, and a son Simeon Uros Palaiologos. Only Teodora would have progeny.
     “In 1314 his father, after quarrelling with Stefan, sent him to Constantinople to have him blinded there. Stefan was not fully blinded, but had to wear a black bandage over his eyes. In 1320 he was permitted to return to Serbia and had to defeat several pretenders to the throne before being crowned in 1321.
     “The most significant event of Stefan's reign was the Battle of Velbuzd in 1330, in which he defeated the Bulgarians. His military conquests allowed him to push Serbian borders to the south and east. Some of his courtiers, however, were discontented with his policies and conspired to dethrone him in favour of his son Stefan Dusan. The latter imprisoned Stefan in the castle of Zvecan, where he died 11 November 1331.
     “Although Stefan's actions were frequently far from saintly, the Serbian Orthodox Church had him canonised. His remains are venerated at the largest medieval church of Serbia that he built at Decani.”.1 He was King of Serbia between 1321 and 1331.1

; Per Wikipedia:
     "Construction began during the reign of Serbian King Stefan De?anski in 1327 and the original founding charter from 1330 has been preserved.[5] De?anski's son, Stefan Dušan, seized the Serbian throne in 1331 and had his father strangled to death in the Zve?an Fortress shortly afterwards. De?anski was buried in the still incomplete Visoki De?ani monastery in 1331 and its construction was continued by Dušan.[6] The monastery's main architect was the Franciscan friar Vito of Kotor.[6][4] According to Branislav Panteli?, the monastery represents the last phase of the Western, Gothic[7], Byzantine-Romanuesque architecture and contains Byzantine paintings and numerous Romanseque sculptures, part of a "Palaeologan renaissance".5

Family 1

Teodora (?) of Bulgaria d. Oct 1322

Family 2

Maria Palaiologina Queen of Serbia b. bt 1313 - 1314, d. 7 Apr 1355
Child

Citations

  1. [S1490] Genealogics Website (oiginated by Leo van de Pas, continued by Ian Fettes), online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Stefan Uros III Decanski: https://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00292999&tree=LEO. Hereinafter cited as Genealogics Website.
  2. [S1490] Genealogics Website, online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Teodora of Bulgaria: https://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00485786&tree=LEO
  3. [S1490] Genealogics Website, online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Maria Palaiologina: https://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00293000&tree=LEO
  4. [S1953] Wikipedia: The Free Encyclopedia, online http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Main_Page, https://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00292999&tree=LEO. Hereinafter cited as Wikipedia.
  5. [S1953] Wikipedia, online http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Main_Page, https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Visoki_De%C4%8Dani
  6. [S1490] Genealogics Website, online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Jelena (Lelika) of Serbia: https://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00303870&tree=LEO

Teodora (?) of Bulgaria1

F, #94665, d. October 1322
Last Edited23 Jun 2020
     Teodora (?) of Bulgaria married Stefan Uros III Decanski (?) King of Serbia, son of Stepan Uros II Milutin (?) King of Serbia, on 24 August 1293
;
His 1st wife.1
Teodora (?) of Bulgaria died in October 1322.1
     Reference: Genealogics cites: Europäische Stammtafeln, J.A. Stargardt Verlag, Marburg, Schwennicke, Detlev (Ed.) 2:161.1

Family

Stefan Uros III Decanski (?) King of Serbia b. c 1276, d. 11 Nov 1331

Citations

  1. [S1490] Genealogics Website (oiginated by Leo van de Pas, continued by Ian Fettes), online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Teodora of Bulgaria: https://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00485786&tree=LEO. Hereinafter cited as Genealogics Website.

Maria Palaiologina Queen of Serbia1

F, #94666, b. between 1313 and 1314, d. 7 April 1355
FatherIoannes Komnenos Palaiologos Despot of Macedonia2,1 b. c 1291, d. 1327
MotherEirene Metochitissa3
Last Edited23 Jun 2020
     Maria Palaiologina Queen of Serbia was born between 1313 and 1314.1 She married Stefan Uros III Decanski (?) King of Serbia, son of Stepan Uros II Milutin (?) King of Serbia, between 1 November 1325 and 31 August 1326.1,4

Maria Palaiologina Queen of Serbia died on 7 April 1355.1
      ; This is the same person as ”Maria Palaiologina, Queen of Serbia” at Wikipedia.5

Reference: Genealogics cites:
1. Europäische Stammtafeln, J.A. Stargardt Verlag, Marburg, Schwennicke, Detlev (Ed.) 2:161.
2. Dictionaire Historique et Genealogique des Grandes Familles de Grece, d'Albanie et de Constantinople, 1999, Paris, Sturdza, Mihail-Dimitri. 370.1
She was Queen consort of Serbia between 1324 and 1331.5

Family

Stefan Uros III Decanski (?) King of Serbia b. c 1276, d. 11 Nov 1331
Child

Citations

  1. [S1490] Genealogics Website (oiginated by Leo van de Pas, continued by Ian Fettes), online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Maria Palaiologina: https://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00293000&tree=LEO. Hereinafter cited as Genealogics Website.
  2. [S1490] Genealogics Website, online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Ioannes Komnenos Palaiologos: https://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00293015&tree=LEO
  3. [S1490] Genealogics Website, online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Eirene Metochitissa: https://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00293016&tree=LEO
  4. [S1490] Genealogics Website, online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Stefan Uros III Decanski: https://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00292999&tree=LEO
  5. [S1953] Wikipedia: The Free Encyclopedia, online http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Main_Page, https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Maria_Palaiologina,_Queen_of_Serbia. Hereinafter cited as Wikipedia.

Ioannes Komnenos Palaiologos Despot of Macedonia1

M, #94667, b. circa 1291, d. 1327
FatherKonstantinos Dukas Palaiologos1 d. 1306
MotherEirene Raulaina1
Last Edited23 Jun 2020
     Ioannes Komnenos Palaiologos Despot of Macedonia was born circa 1291.1 He married Eirene Metochitissa circa 1305.2,1

Ioannes Komnenos Palaiologos Despot of Macedonia died in 1327 at Skopje, Macedonia.1
     Reference: Genealogics cites:
1. Europäische Stammtafeln, J.A. Stargardt Verlag, Marburg, Schwennicke, Detlev (Ed.) 2:183.
2. Dictionaire Historique et Genealogique des Grandes Familles de Grece, d'Albanie et de Constantinople, 1999, Paris, Sturdza, Mihail-Dimitri. 370.1

Family

Eirene Metochitissa
Child

Citations

  1. [S1490] Genealogics Website (oiginated by Leo van de Pas, continued by Ian Fettes), online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Ioannes Komnenos Palaiologos: https://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00293015&tree=LEO. Hereinafter cited as Genealogics Website.
  2. [S1490] Genealogics Website, online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Eirene Metochitissa: https://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00293016&tree=LEO
  3. [S1490] Genealogics Website, online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Maria Palaiologina: https://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00293000&tree=LEO

Béraud V de Mercoeur seigneur de Mercoeur, vicomte de Gévaudan, Connétable d’Auvergne1

M, #94668, d. 22 December 1254
FatherBéraud IV de Mercoeur Seigneur de Mercoeur1 d. 1200
MotherAssalide d'Auvergne1
Last Edited23 Jun 2020
     Béraud V de Mercoeur seigneur de Mercoeur, vicomte de Gévaudan, Connétable d’Auvergne married Alix de Chamalières-sur-Loire.1

Béraud V de Mercoeur seigneur de Mercoeur, vicomte de Gévaudan, Connétable d’Auvergne died on 22 December 1254.1
      ; Per Racines et Histoire (Mercoeur): “Béraud V de Mercoeur + 22/12/1254 seigneur de Mercoeur, vicomte de Gévaudan, Connétable d’Auvergne (1229/35)
     ép. Alix de Chamalières (-sur-Loire)”.1

Citations

  1. [S2280] Racines et Histoire, online http://racineshistoire.free.fr/LGN/LGN-frameset.html, 1ère Maison deMercoeur, p. 5: http://racineshistoire.free.fr/LGN/PDF/Mercoeur.pdf. Hereinafter cited as Racines et Histoire.

Béraud IV de Mercoeur Seigneur de Mercoeur1

M, #94670, d. 1200
FatherBéraud III de Mercoeur Sire de Mercoeur1 d. b 1169
MotherJudith d'Auvergne1
Last Edited23 Jun 2020
     Béraud IV de Mercoeur Seigneur de Mercoeur married Assalide d'Auvergne.1

Béraud IV de Mercoeur Seigneur de Mercoeur died in 1200.1
      ; Per Racines et Histoire (Mercoeur): “Béraud IV de Mercoeur +1200 seigneur de Mercoeur
ép. Assalide d’Auvergne (alias Nassal de Claustre) (fille de Guillaume VII, comte d’Auvergne, et de Marquise d’Albon) (on la dit courtisée par un chevalier & seigneur local : Peyre del Vernegue)”.1

Citations

  1. [S2280] Racines et Histoire, online http://racineshistoire.free.fr/LGN/LGN-frameset.html, 1ère Maison deMercoeur, p. 5: http://racineshistoire.free.fr/LGN/PDF/Mercoeur.pdf. Hereinafter cited as Racines et Histoire.

Assalide d'Auvergne1

F, #94671
Last Edited25 Sep 2020
     Assalide d'Auvergne married Béraud IV de Mercoeur Seigneur de Mercoeur, son of Béraud III de Mercoeur Sire de Mercoeur and Judith d'Auvergne.1

      ; Per Racines et Histoire (Mercoeur): “Béraud IV de Mercoeur +1200 seigneur de Mercoeur
ép. Assalide d’Auvergne (alias Nassal de Claustre) (fille de Guillaume VII, comte d’Auvergne, et de Marquise d’Albon) (on la dit courtisée par un chevalier & seigneur local : Peyre del Vernegue)”.1

Citations

  1. [S2280] Racines et Histoire, online http://racineshistoire.free.fr/LGN/LGN-frameset.html, 1ère Maison deMercoeur, p. 5: http://racineshistoire.free.fr/LGN/PDF/Mercoeur.pdf. Hereinafter cited as Racines et Histoire.

Demetrios Tornikes1

M, #94672, d. between 1201 and 1202
ReferenceGAV24
Last Edited26 Jun 2020
     Demetrios Tornikes married NN Malakissa.1

Demetrios Tornikes died between 1201 and 1202.1
     GAV-24.

; Per Med Lands:
     "DEMETRIOS Tornikes, son of --- Tornikes & his wife --- (-[Jan] 1201 or 1202). Georgios Tornikes wrote from Constantinople to "Andronikos Komnenos" in favour of "the writer´s brother Demetrios, who was at Branitsova", dated to [1146/56][866]. Niketas Choniates records the activities of "iudices, Monasteriotes Leo, Tornicius Demetrius et Constantinus Patrenus" during the revolution which brought Emperor Andronikos I to power in 1183[867]. "Pansebastos sebastos lord and oikeios [of] our…emperor and logothetes of the dromos lord Demetrios Tornikes" [??????????? ???????? ????? ??? ??????? ??…??????? ??? ????????? ??? ?????? ????? ???????????? ???????] is named in a report of a synod convened by Emperor Isaakios II in Sep 1191[868]. Stone and Owens discuss the significance of the title "oikeios" [???????] borne by Demetrios in this source, indicating a close member of the household or family of the emperor, concluding that it represents another pointer towards the marriage of his daughter to Emperor Isaakios[869]. A seal dated to [1200] names "Demetrios Tornikes"[870]. Euthymios Tornikes wrote a eulogy for the "pansébaste et…logothète Démétrios Tornikès"[871], dated to [28/31] Jan [1201 or 1202][872].
     "m --- Malakissa, sister of EUTHYMIOS Malakes, daughter of --- Malakes & his wife ---. Euthymios Tornikes wrote a eulogy for the "hypertime de Néopatras (Euthymios Malakès)"[873], which confirms that the deceased was his uncle[874]."
Med Lands cites:
[866] Stone & Owens ´[Eirene?]´, p. 382, citing Darrouzès (1970), pp. 13 & 107-8.
[867] Niketas Choniates, Imperium Alexii Comneni Porphyrogeniti Manuelis filii, 16, p. 345.
[868] Stone & Owens ´[Eirene?]´, p. 365, quoting Verpeaux, J. ´Les "Oikeioi", notes d´histoire institutionnelle et sociale´, Revue des études byzantines 23 (1965), pp. 88-9.
[869] Stone & Owens ´[Eirene?]´, pp. 365-6.
[870] "Demetrios 20120" in PBW (2006.2), citing Seal 4034.
[871] Darrouzès ‘Les discours d´Euthyme Tornikès (1200-1205)’ (1968), pp. 90-117.
[872] Darrouzès, J. ‘Notes sur Euthyme Tornikès, Euthyme Malakès et Georges Tornikès’, Revue des études byzantines, Tome 23 (1965), p. 149, available at (21 Dec 2012).
[873] Darrouzès ‘Les discours d´Euthyme Tornikès (1200-1205)’ (1968), pp. 73-89.
[874] Darrouzès ‘ Notes sur Euthyme Tornikès, Euthyme Malakès et Georges Tornikès’ (1965), p. 152.1

Family

NN Malakissa
Child

Citations

  1. [S2203] Foundation for Medieval Genealogy (FMG): MEDIEVAL LANDS - A prosopography of medieval European noble and royal families, online http://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/index.htm, https://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/BYZANTINE%20NOBILITY.htm#EireneTornikainadied1184. Hereinafter cited as FMG Medieval Lands Website.

NN Malakissa1

F, #94673
ReferenceGAV24
Last Edited26 Jun 2020
     NN Malakissa married Demetrios Tornikes.1

      ; Per Med Lands:
     "DEMETRIOS Tornikes, son of --- Tornikes & his wife --- (-[Jan] 1201 or 1202). Georgios Tornikes wrote from Constantinople to "Andronikos Komnenos" in favour of "the writer´s brother Demetrios, who was at Branitsova", dated to [1146/56][866]. Niketas Choniates records the activities of "iudices, Monasteriotes Leo, Tornicius Demetrius et Constantinus Patrenus" during the revolution which brought Emperor Andronikos I to power in 1183[867]. "Pansebastos sebastos lord and oikeios [of] our…emperor and logothetes of the dromos lord Demetrios Tornikes" [??????????? ???????? ????? ??? ??????? ??…??????? ??? ????????? ??? ?????? ????? ???????????? ???????] is named in a report of a synod convened by Emperor Isaakios II in Sep 1191[868]. Stone and Owens discuss the significance of the title "oikeios" [???????] borne by Demetrios in this source, indicating a close member of the household or family of the emperor, concluding that it represents another pointer towards the marriage of his daughter to Emperor Isaakios[869]. A seal dated to [1200] names "Demetrios Tornikes"[870]. Euthymios Tornikes wrote a eulogy for the "pansébaste et…logothète Démétrios Tornikès"[871], dated to [28/31] Jan [1201 or 1202][872].
     "m --- Malakissa, sister of EUTHYMIOS Malakes, daughter of --- Malakes & his wife ---. Euthymios Tornikes wrote a eulogy for the "hypertime de Néopatras (Euthymios Malakès)"[873], which confirms that the deceased was his uncle[874]."
Med Lands cites:
[866] Stone & Owens ´[Eirene?]´, p. 382, citing Darrouzès (1970), pp. 13 & 107-8.
[867] Niketas Choniates, Imperium Alexii Comneni Porphyrogeniti Manuelis filii, 16, p. 345.
[868] Stone & Owens ´[Eirene?]´, p. 365, quoting Verpeaux, J. ´Les "Oikeioi", notes d´histoire institutionnelle et sociale´, Revue des études byzantines 23 (1965), pp. 88-9.
[869] Stone & Owens ´[Eirene?]´, pp. 365-6.
[870] "Demetrios 20120" in PBW (2006.2), citing Seal 4034.
[871] Darrouzès ‘Les discours d´Euthyme Tornikès (1200-1205)’ (1968), pp. 90-117.
[872] Darrouzès, J. ‘Notes sur Euthyme Tornikès, Euthyme Malakès et Georges Tornikès’, Revue des études byzantines, Tome 23 (1965), p. 149, available at (21 Dec 2012).
[873] Darrouzès ‘Les discours d´Euthyme Tornikès (1200-1205)’ (1968), pp. 73-89.
[874] Darrouzès ‘ Notes sur Euthyme Tornikès, Euthyme Malakès et Georges Tornikès’ (1965), p. 152.1
GAV-24.

Family

Demetrios Tornikes d. bt 1201 - 1202
Child

Citations

  1. [S2203] Foundation for Medieval Genealogy (FMG): MEDIEVAL LANDS - A prosopography of medieval European noble and royal families, online http://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/index.htm, https://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/BYZANTINE%20NOBILITY.htm#EireneTornikainadied1184. Hereinafter cited as FMG Medieval Lands Website.

Raymond III (?) Comte de Toulouse1

M, #94674, b. between 925 and 930, d. 972
FatherRaymond (III) Pons (?) Comte de Toulouse et d'Auvergne, marquis de Gothie1 d. bt 940 - 944
MotherGarsinda (?) de Gascogne1
ReferenceGAV26
Last Edited26 Jun 2020
     Raymond III (?) Comte de Toulouse married Gundinildis (?)1
Raymond III (?) Comte de Toulouse was born between 925 and 930.1
Raymond III (?) Comte de Toulouse died in 972.1
     GAV-26.

; Per Med Lands:
     "RAYMOND de Toulouse ([925/30]-[972]). The Codex de Roda names "Regemundus" as the son of "Pontio" and his wife "filia Garsie Sanzionis"[285]. Europäische Stammtafeln[286] omits Counts Raymond III and Raymond IV from its schema of the counts of Toulouse, showing Count Guillaume III "Taillefer" as the son of Count Raymond Pons. The chronological difficulties with this interpretation are evident, assuming that Raymond Pons's birth date is as estimated above and that Guillaume III is recorded as dying in 1037. Settipani sets out the background to this theory and proposes a robust new line of descent, the main elements of which are as shown here, supported by the primary sources which are quoted below[287]. Raymond presumably succeeded his father as RAYMOND III Comte de Toulouse, although there appears to be no mention of him with this title in primary sources[288]. [A charter dated 2 Jul 972 records a hearing at Nîmes by "Raymondus comes et marchio" relating to "ecclesiam Sancti Martini…in comitatu Agatense" in the presence of "…Siguinus vicecomes et Bernardus frater eius…"[289]. It is not known whether this document refers to Raymond [II] Comte de Rouergue or to Raymond III Comte de Toulouse.] A charter dated 972 records donations to the church of Saint-Michel de Gaillac, confirmed by "Regimundus comes", subscribed by "Gersindis comitissæ"[290].
     "m [GUNDINILDIS], daughter of ---. The wife of Comte Raymond III was named Gundinildis, assuming that her son Raymond was "…Raymundo filio Gundinildis nepoti meo" who is named in the codicil testament of "Gersindæ comitissæ", widow of Comte Raymond Pons[291]."
Med Lands cites:
[285] Lacarra 'Textos navarros del Códice de Roda' (1945) 32, p. 251.
[286] ES III 763.
[287] Settipani (2004), pp. 28-36.
[288] Settipani (2004), p. 36.
[289] Histoire Générale de Languedoc 3rd Edn. Tome V, Preuves, Chartes et Diplômes, 121, col. 267.
[290] Histoire Générale de Languedoc 3rd Edn. Tome V, Preuves, Chartes et Diplômes, 123, col. 269.
[291] Histoire Générale de Languedoc 3rd Edn. Tome V, Preuves, Chartes et Diplômes, 126, col. 274.1

Family

Gundinildis (?)
Children

Citations

  1. [S2203] Foundation for Medieval Genealogy (FMG): MEDIEVAL LANDS - A prosopography of medieval European noble and royal families, online http://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/index.htm, https://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/TOULOUSE.htm#RaymondPonsdied940944B. Hereinafter cited as FMG Medieval Lands Website.
  2. [S1438] Miroslav Marek, online http://genealogy.euweb.cz/index.html, unknown author (e-mail address), downloaded updated 15 May 2003, Toulouse 1 page: http://genealogy.euweb.cz/toulouse/toul1.html
  3. [S1490] Genealogics Website (oiginated by Leo van de Pas, continued by Ian Fettes), online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Raymond III 'Pons', Comte de Toulouse: http://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00140031&tree=LEO. Hereinafter cited as Genealogics Website.
  4. [S1490] Genealogics Website, online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Ledgarda de Toulouse: https://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00120329&tree=LEO

Gundinildis (?)1

F, #94675
ReferenceGAV29
Last Edited26 Jun 2020
     Gundinildis (?) married Raymond III (?) Comte de Toulouse, son of Raymond (III) Pons (?) Comte de Toulouse et d'Auvergne, marquis de Gothie and Garsinda (?) de Gascogne.1

      ; Per Med Lands:
     "RAYMOND de Toulouse ([925/30]-[972]). The Codex de Roda names "Regemundus" as the son of "Pontio" and his wife "filia Garsie Sanzionis"[285]. Europäische Stammtafeln[286] omits Counts Raymond III and Raymond IV from its schema of the counts of Toulouse, showing Count Guillaume III "Taillefer" as the son of Count Raymond Pons. The chronological difficulties with this interpretation are evident, assuming that Raymond Pons's birth date is as estimated above and that Guillaume III is recorded as dying in 1037. Settipani sets out the background to this theory and proposes a robust new line of descent, the main elements of which are as shown here, supported by the primary sources which are quoted below[287]. Raymond presumably succeeded his father as RAYMOND III Comte de Toulouse, although there appears to be no mention of him with this title in primary sources[288]. [A charter dated 2 Jul 972 records a hearing at Nîmes by "Raymondus comes et marchio" relating to "ecclesiam Sancti Martini…in comitatu Agatense" in the presence of "…Siguinus vicecomes et Bernardus frater eius…"[289]. It is not known whether this document refers to Raymond [II] Comte de Rouergue or to Raymond III Comte de Toulouse.] A charter dated 972 records donations to the church of Saint-Michel de Gaillac, confirmed by "Regimundus comes", subscribed by "Gersindis comitissæ"[290].
     "m [GUNDINILDIS], daughter of ---. The wife of Comte Raymond III was named Gundinildis, assuming that her son Raymond was "…Raymundo filio Gundinildis nepoti meo" who is named in the codicil testament of "Gersindæ comitissæ", widow of Comte Raymond Pons[291]."
Med Lands cites:
[285] Lacarra 'Textos navarros del Códice de Roda' (1945) 32, p. 251.
[286] ES III 763.
[287] Settipani (2004), pp. 28-36.
[288] Settipani (2004), p. 36.
[289] Histoire Générale de Languedoc 3rd Edn. Tome V, Preuves, Chartes et Diplômes, 121, col. 267.
[290] Histoire Générale de Languedoc 3rd Edn. Tome V, Preuves, Chartes et Diplômes, 123, col. 269.
[291] Histoire Générale de Languedoc 3rd Edn. Tome V, Preuves, Chartes et Diplômes, 126, col. 274.1
GAV-29.

Family

Raymond III (?) Comte de Toulouse b. bt 925 - 930, d. 972
Children

Citations

  1. [S2203] Foundation for Medieval Genealogy (FMG): MEDIEVAL LANDS - A prosopography of medieval European noble and royal families, online http://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/index.htm, https://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/TOULOUSE.htm#RaymondPonsdied940944B. Hereinafter cited as FMG Medieval Lands Website.

Archambaud de Turenne Vicomte de Riberac1,2

M, #94677, d. 1117
FatherBoson I de Turenne Vicomte de Turenne1,2 d. 1092
MotherGerberge de Terrasson Vicomtesse de Turenne1,2 b. c 1055, d. 1103
Last Edited25 Jun 2020
     Archambaud de Turenne Vicomte de Riberac died in 1117.1,2
      ; Per Genealogy.EU (Toulouse 2): “C2. Archambaud, Vcte de Riberac, +1117”.2

; Per Med Lands:
     "ARCHAMBAUD de Turenne (-1117). The Chronicon Gaufredi Vosiensis names "Raymundum et Archambaldum de Ribeyrac et Ebolum Abbatem Tutelensem" as sons of "Boso"[1481]. The cartulary of Tulle St Martin records a donation by "Boso vicecomes Torenensis castri et uxor mea Guirberga…filium nostrum Ebalum" dated 1091 which also names "filiis nostris Raymondo et Archambaldo"[1482]. The cartulary of Tulle St Martin records a donation by "Raymundus vicecomes Torennensis" of property "in manu domni Ebali abbatis fratris mei, quam postea concessit frater meus Arcambaldus vicecomes de Ribairac" dated 11 Mar 1116[1483]. "Arcambaudus vicecomes" donated property to Saint-Etienne de Baigne by charter dated to [1109/21] which names "Raimundus frater Arcambaudi"[1484]. Vicomte de Ribérac. "Raymundus vicecomes Torennensis" donated property to the abbey of Tulle naming "domni Ebali abbatis fratris mei…frater meus Arcambaldus vicecomes de Ribairac" by charter dated 11 Mar 1116[1485]. The cartulary of Tulle St Martin records a donation by "Raimundus vicecomes de Torrenna" made "pro anima fratris sui Arcambaldi" dated 1117[1486].
     "m ---. The name of Archambaud's wife is not known."
Med Lands cites:
[1481] Ex Chronico Gaufredi Vosiensis, 23, RHGF XII, p. 424.
[1482] Tulle Saint-Martin 498, p. 265.
[1483] Tulle Saint-Martin 506, p. 272.
[1484] Baigne Saint-Etienne LXX, p. 43.
[1485] Tulle Saint-Martin 510, p. 273.
[1486] Tulle Saint-Martin 510, p. 273.1

Citations

  1. [S2203] Foundation for Medieval Genealogy (FMG): MEDIEVAL LANDS - A prosopography of medieval European noble and royal families, online http://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/index.htm, https://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/LIMOUSIN.htm#BosonTurennedied1091B. Hereinafter cited as FMG Medieval Lands Website.
  2. [S1438] Miroslav Marek, online http://genealogy.euweb.cz/index.html, unknown author (e-mail address), downloaded updated 15 May 2003, Toulouse 2: http://genealogy.euweb.cz/toulouse/toul2.html

Gausla (?)1

F, #94678, d. between 927 and 931
Last Edited25 Jun 2020
     Gausla (?) married Adhémar I de Turenne Vicomte des Echelles, Comte du Quercy, son of Robert de Turenne Comte de Turenne,
;
His 2nd wife.1,2
Gausla (?) died between 927 and 931.1
     ; Per Med Lands:
     "ADEMAR de Turenne (-945). "Gozbertus et uxor mea Ricburgis" donated property "ecclesia S. Dionisii" for the souls of "patris nostri Rotberti, seu fratrum nostrorum Bosoni et Ademari, nec non etiam Odolrici seu et Rotberti et…nepotum nostrorum Bosonis verum etiam Johannis" by charter dated [943/948], subscribed by "Bosoni vicecomitis"[1383]. Vicomte des Echelles 898/941. "Ademarus" donated property by charter dated [930] which names "uxor mea Gauzla…Gausbertus frater meus…Bernardus filius meus"[1384]. "Ademarus et uxor mea Gauzla" made several testaments, of which some are dated [922] and [930/31], donating "castrum nostrum…Scalas" and other property to Tulle Saint-Martin, one of which names "Faucisburge quæ fuit uxor mea", another of which clarifies that "Gauzla" and "Bernardus filius meus" both predeceased Ademar[1385]. Comte du Quercy 935. "Gauzbertus vicecomes" donated property "in pago Lemovicino in vicaria Navensi in villa…Rael" to Tulle Saint-Martin " by charter dated Jul [936], signed by "Ademari vicecomitis fratris sui"[1386]. A charter dated to [946] recalls donations by "domni Ademari vicecomitis…[et] Fareldis"[1387].
     "m firstly FAUCIBURGE, daughter of ---. The Genealogia Ademari Vicecomitis Salarum in the cartulary of Tulle St Martin names "Fauciburgis prima uxor domni Ademari", undated[1388]. "Ademarus et uxor mea Gauzla" made several testaments, of which some are dated [922] and [930/31], one of which names "Faucisburge quæ fuit uxor mea"[1389].
     "m secondly GAUSLA, daughter of ---. [927/31]. "Ademarus" donated property by charter dated [930] which names "uxor mea Gauzla…Gausbertus frater meus…Bernardus filius meus"[1390]. "Ademarus et uxor mea Gauzla" made several testaments, of which some are dated [922] and [930/31], one of which clarifies that "Gauzla" and "Bernardus filius meus" both predeceased Ademar[1391]."
Med Lands cites:
[1383] Beaulieu, XXVIII, p. 57.
[1384] Beaulieu, XLIX, p. 90.
[1385] Tulle Saint-Martin 10-14, p. 21.
[1386] Tulle Saint-Martin 532, p. 286.
[1387] Tulle Saint-Martin 599, p. 327.
[1388] Tulle Saint-Martin 291, p. 175.
[1389] Tulle Saint-Martin 10-14, p. 21.
[1390] Beaulieu, XLIX, p. 90.
[1391] Tulle Saint-Martin 10-14, p. 21.1

; Per Racines et Histoire (Turenne): “Ademar de Turenne + 945 (teste en 922, 930/31) vicomte des Echelles (898-941), comte du Quercy (935) (donation en 930 ; & à Saint-Martin de Tulle en 07/936)
     ép. 1) Fauciburge
     ép. 2) Gauzla + 927/31
     X) liaison avec ?”.2

Citations

  1. [S2203] Foundation for Medieval Genealogy (FMG): MEDIEVAL LANDS - A prosopography of medieval European noble and royal families, online http://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/index.htm, https://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/LIMOUSIN.htm#RobertTurennedied932B. Hereinafter cited as FMG Medieval Lands Website.
  2. [S2280] Racines et Histoire, online http://racineshistoire.free.fr/LGN/LGN-frameset.html, Maison de Turenne, p. 3: http://racineshistoire.free.fr/LGN/PDF/Turenne.pdf. Hereinafter cited as Racines et Histoire.

Gerberge (?)1

F, #94679, d. after July 878
ReferenceGAV32
Last Edited25 Jun 2020
     Gerberge (?) married Godefroi I de Turenne comte de Quercy et de Turenne, son of Raoul de Quercy Comte de Quercy and Aiga/Aigane (?) de Septimanie.1,2

Gerberge (?) died after July 878.1,2
      ; Per Racines et Histoire (Turenne): “Godefroi 1er de Turenne + après 10/866 (teste à cette date) comte de Quercy et de Turenne (843) (le comté de Quercy est confisqué par le comte de Toulouse en 852 ; cité dans une charte de son frère Raoul en 05/859)
     ép. Gerberge + après 07/878 (citée charte de 11/865)”.1 GAV-32.

Citations

  1. [S2280] Racines et Histoire, online http://racineshistoire.free.fr/LGN/LGN-frameset.html, Maison de Turenne, p. 2: http://racineshistoire.free.fr/LGN/PDF/Turenne.pdf. Hereinafter cited as Racines et Histoire.
  2. [S2203] Foundation for Medieval Genealogy (FMG): MEDIEVAL LANDS - A prosopography of medieval European noble and royal families, online http://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/index.htm, https://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/LIMOUSIN.htm#RobertTurennedied932A. Hereinafter cited as FMG Medieval Lands Website.

Aiga/Aigane (?) de Septimanie1

F, #94680
ReferenceGAV33
Last Edited25 Jun 2020
     Aiga/Aigane (?) de Septimanie married Raoul de Quercy Comte de Quercy
;
Her 2nd husband.1 Aiga/Aigane (?) de Septimanie married Immo Comte
;
Her 1st husband.2,1 Aiga/Aigane (?) de Septimanie married Rainulf I (?) comte d’Angoulême, Comte Poitou, son of Gerard I (?) Comte d'Auvergne and Rotrud/Hildegard (?) of the Franks, after 843
;
Her 3rd husband; his 1st wife.1,2
      ; Per Racines et Histoire (Aquitaine): “1) Ramnulf 1er (Rainulf, Renoul, Rannoux) ° ~815/20 +X 10/866 (de ses blessures près Brissarthe, 49, contre les Vikings) comte d’Angoulême (840, nommé par Louis «Le Pieux»), comte de Poitiers (839, investi par Emenon, chassé de son comté par l’Empereur Louis), Abbé de Saint-Hilaire de Poitiers, duc d’Aquitaine (852-866), partisan de Charles II «Le Chauve»
     ép. 1) après 843 Aiga (ou Aigane) de Septimanie (veuve de 1) comte Immo et de 2) Raoul, comte de Turenne + dès 02/844) (citée dans le Cartulaire de Beaulieu 11/823)
     ép. 2) 845 Bilchilde (ou Blichilde, Bilichildis) du Maine (fille de Rorico(n) II, comte du Maine, et de Bilechildis ; possible veuve de Bernard, comte en Poitou +X 844)”.2

; Per Racines et Histoire (Turenne): “? Raoul de Quercy fl 824 + ~843 dès 02/844 (inh. Abbaye de Saint-Geniez de Savarzac) comte de Quercy, vassal de Pépin, Roi d’Aquitaine (fonde l’Abbaye de Saint-Geniez en 823 ; parfois dit parent de Wicfred, comte de Bourges)
     ép. Aiga (ou Aigane) de Septimanie (veuve du comte Immo ; ép. 3) après 843 Ramnulf 1er de Poitou) (citée dans le Cartulaire de Beaulieu 11/823 & en 03/856 dans le testament de son fils Raoul)”.1 GAV-33.

Family 1

Immo Comte

Family 3

Rainulf I (?) comte d’Angoulême, Comte Poitou b. bt 815 - 820, d. Oct 866

Citations

  1. [S2280] Racines et Histoire, online http://racineshistoire.free.fr/LGN/LGN-frameset.html, Maison de Turenne, p. 2: http://racineshistoire.free.fr/LGN/PDF/Turenne.pdf. Hereinafter cited as Racines et Histoire.
  2. [S2280] Racines et Histoire, online http://racineshistoire.free.fr/LGN/LGN-frameset.html, Ducs d’Aquitaine & Comtes de Poitou, p. 5: http://racineshistoire.free.fr/LGN/PDF/Aquitaine-Poitou.pdf