Walter de Menteith Laird of Ruskie1

M, #67682
FatherSir John de Menteith laird of Ruskie1,2 d. c 1323
Last Edited26 Aug 2019
     ; per Ravilious: Walter de Menteith
Occ: laird of Ruskie

laird of Ruskie[12]

' domino Waltero de Menetheth ', had a charter from his cousin
Murdoch, earl of Menteith for the lands of Thom and Lanarkynys
in Menteith, and fishing rights in the river Teith, ca. 1330
[Red Book of Menteith II:225-7[12]]

Children: Sir Alexander Menteith of Ruskie
John (-<1382)
Walter
Malcolm
William

Ravilious cites:
1. Sir James Balfour Paul, ed., "The Scots Peerage," Edinburgh:
David Douglas, 1904-1914 (9 volumes).
2. William Fraser, ed., "Memoirs of the Maxwells of Pollok,"
Edinburgh, 1863.pdf image files provided by Genealogy.com
www.genealogy.com.
3. "Banff charters, A.D. 1232-1703," London: Oxford University
Press, H. Milford, 1915, courtesy Genealogy.com.
4. Ebenezer Henderson, LL.D, "The Annals of Dunfermline and
Vicinity, from the Earliest Authentic Period to the Present
Time, A.D. 1069 - 1878," Glasgow: John Tweed, 1879, text
available courtesy of Electric Scotland,
http://www.electricscotland.com/history/dunfermline/
5. James Dennistoun, ed., "Cartularium Comitatus de Levenax,"
ab initio seculo decimi tertii usque at annum M.CCC.XCVIII.,
Edinburgh, 1833.
6. Sir Norman Lamont of Knockdow, Bart., F.S.A. (Scot.), "An
Inventory of Lamont Papers, 1231-1897," Presented to the
Scottish Record Society, Edinburgh: J. Skinner & Company,
Ltd., 1914.
7. G. W. S. Barrow, "Robert Bruce and the Community of the Realm
of Scotland," Edinburgh University Press, 1976 (2nd ed.)
8. Leo van de Pas, "Stewart Saga - One," Dec 12, 1998,
GEN-MEDIEVAL-L@rootsweb.com.
9. Samuel Cowan, "Three Celtic Earldoms : Atholl, Strathearn,
Menteith," Edinburgh: N. Macleod, 1909.pdf image files
provided by Genealogy.com www.genealogy.com.
10. G. Harvey Johnston, "The Heraldry of the Stewarts,"
Edinburgh: W. & A.K. Johnston, 1906.pdf image files
provided by Genealogy.com www.genealogy.com, p. 64,
Menteith.
11. G. E. Cokayne, "The Complete Peerage," 1910 - [microprint, 1982 (Alan Sutton) ], The Complete Peerage of England Scotland
Ireland Great Britain and the United Kingdom.
12. William Fraser, "The Red Book of Menteith," Edinburgh: 1880,
.pdf image files provided by Genealogy.com www.genealogy.com,
history and evidences concerning the Earls and Earldom of Mentieth.
13. "Charters of the Royal Burgh of Ayr," Edinburgh: printed
for The Ayr and Wigton Archaeological Association, 1883.
14. Joseph Stevenson, "Documents illustrative of the history of
Scotland from the death of King Alexander the Third to the
Accession of Robert Bruce," Edinburgh: H. M. General Register
House, 1870 (Vol. I), 1870 (Vol. II).
15. George Crawfurd, "The History of the Shire of Renfrew,"
Paisley: Printed and sold by Alex. Weir, 1782, (originally,
Edinburgh : Printed by James Watson, 1710), [also as cited by Burke; and Paisley Herald article, F of Barrochan],
' containing a genealogical history of the royal house of
Stewart..'.
16. "Clan Stirling,"
http://www.clanstirling.org/uploads/ragmanrolls.pdf
provides .pdf file of the names of those who swore
allegiance to Edward I of England at Berwick, 1296
(the 'Ragman Rolls').
17. Alastair Campbell of Airds, "A History of Clan Campbell,"
Edinburgh: Polygon [an imprint of Edinburgh University Press Ltd.], 2000, Vol. I: From Origins to Flodden.
18. "Calendar of the Close Rolls," Edw I, vol. IV (1296-1302),
London: Printed for His Majesty's Stationery Office by Mackie
& Co., LD., 1906.
19. John Horne Stevenson, K.C. and Marguerite Wood, Ph.D.,
Scottish Heraldic Seals: Royal, Official, Ecclesiastical,
Collegiate, Burghal, Personal, Glasgow: printed by Robert
MacLehose & Coy., Limited at the University Press, 1940
(Vol. II).
20. John Frederick Vaughan Campbell Cawdor, "The Book of the
Thanes of Cawdor: a series of papers selected from the Charter
Room at Cawdor, 1236-1742," Edinburgh: T. Constable, Printer
to Her Majesty, for The Spalding Club, 1859, courtesy
Googlebooks.
21. Albert M. Sterling, "The Sterling Genealogy," New York:
Grafton Press, 1909.pdf image files provided by
Genealogy.com www.genealogy.com.
22. William Robertson, Esq., " An index, drawn up about the
year 1629, of many records of charters, granted by the
different sovereigns of Scotland between the years 1309 and
1413...," Edinburgh: Printed by Murray & Cochrane, 1798,
full title: An index, drawn up about the year 1629, of many
records of charters, granted by the different sovereigns of
Scotland between the years 1309 and 1413, most of which
records have been long missing., With an introduction,
giving a state, founded on authentic documents still preserved,
of the ancient records of Scotland, which were in that kingdom
in the year 1292., To which are subjoined, indexes of the
persons and places mentioned in those charters, alphabetically
arranged.
23. Major William Bruce Armstrong, "The Bruces of Airth and Their
Cadets," Edinburgh: privately printed, 1892.
24. Robert Pitcairn, Esq., "Criminal Trials in Scotland, From A.D.
M.CCCC.LXXXVIII to A.D. M.DC.XXIV," Vol. I, Part 1, Edinburgh:
William Tait (and London: Longman, Rees, Orme, Brown, Green,
and Longman), 1833.
25. Edwin Brockholst Livingston, "The Livingstons of Callendar and
their Principal Cadets: The history of an old Stirlingshire
family," Edinburgh: T. and A. Constable, 1920.pdf images
provided by Genealogy.com, http://www.genealogy.com/ re:
the Livingstons of Kilsyth (cf. Chapter IX, THE LIVINGSTONS,
VISCOUNTS OF KILSYTH), pp. 210 et seq.
26. Historical Manuscripts Commission, "Report on the Manuscripts
of the Earl of Mar and Kellie: Preserved at Alloa House, N.B.,"
London: Printed for Her Majesty's Stationery Office, by Ben
Johnson and Company, York, 1904.2

Family

Child

Citations

  1. [S1829] John P. Ravilious, "Ravilious email 11 Nov 2004: "SP Addition: Helen de Menteith, wife of Sir Colin Campbell"," e-mail message from e-mail address (unknown address) to e-mail address, 11 Nov 2004. Hereinafter cited as "Ravilious email 11 Nov 2004."
  2. [S2095] John P. Ravilious, "Ravilious email 4 Sept 2006: "Menteith of Kerse: a reexamination"," e-mail message from e-mail address (unknown address) to e-mail address, 4 Sept 2006. Hereinafter cited as "Ravilious email 4 Sept 2006."
  3. [S1490] Genealogics Website (oiginated by Leo van de Pas, continued by Ian Fettes), online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Iain|John Menteth, jure uxoris of Kerse, Iain mac Baltair a Meneteadhaich: https://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00587374&tree=LEO. Hereinafter cited as Genealogics Website.

Sir William "le Frere" Fitz Warin Baron Fitzwarine1

M, #67683, d. between 28 October 1361 and 3 November 1361
FatherFulk VI Fitz Warin 2nd Lord Fitzwarine1 d. 1336
MotherAlianora de Beauchamp1
Last Edited15 Oct 2008
     Sir William "le Frere" Fitz Warin Baron Fitzwarine married Amicia de Haddon, daughter of Sir Henry de Haddon.1,2
Sir William "le Frere" Fitz Warin Baron Fitzwarine died between 28 October 1361 and 3 November 1361; died of pestilence.1
     ; In Burke's Extinct Peerage, 1866, page 214 (I know) we find William FitzWarine, called Le Frere, was elevated to the peerage as a Baron, by writ of summons, dated 25 February 1342. He married Amicia Haddon, died in 1361 and was succeeded by his son Ivo or John Fitz-Warine, 2nd Baron but was never summoned to parliament. He died in 1414, he married (no name mentioned) and had an only daughter and heiress, Eleanor.

This family is only touched upon by the Complete Peerage, Volume V, pages 512,513

It starts with Sir William FitzWarin, le frere, who was summoned to council, 25 February 1341/1342, he died of pestilence 28 October or 3 November 1361 and was buried at Wantage. The Council which summoned him, is described as "incorrectly described as a Parliament by Dugdale and others." In other words, he was not a Baron, and therefor his son is not mentioned at all. I could find no mention in Volume XIV.

In the Complete Peerage Volume I page 197 (thanks Robert O'Connor) we find Maud de Argentine who married Sir Ives FitzWarin. Apparently she was married before but only had issue by her second husband Sir Ives/Ivo FitzWarin. Is this Maud the wife not mentioned by the Extinct Peerage? In which case she is the mother of Eleanor, mentioned above. Can anyone confirm this?

By the way, this Eleanor has descendants with links to the USA
Charles Calvert, 3rd Lord Baltimore
Maria Joanna Somerset
John Nelson
John Alston
Hon. Robert Monckton
Lord Charles Greville Montagu
Franklin Delano Roosevelt
John Steele Gordon
as well, she is an ancestor of Prince William of Wales.

Hope someone can help.
With many thanks
Leo van de Pas
Canberra, Australia.1

; Sir William Fitz Warin can readily be identified as a younger son of Fulk Fitz Warin, 2nd Lord Fitz Warin, of Whittington, Shropshire, by Eleanor, daughter of John de Beauchamp, of Hatch Beauchamp, Somerset. William's identity is indicated by the fact that he was styled "William Fitz Warin the brother" and William Fitz Warin "of Whittington, Shropshire" in contemporary documents to distinguish him from his kinsman, William Fitz Warin, of Penleigh (in Westbury), Wiltshire [Reference: Complete Peerage, 5 (1926): 512-513; Abstracts of Feet of Fines Relating to Wiltshire for the Reign of Edward III. (Wiltshire Rec. Soc. 29) (1974): 112, 120].

An interesting account of Sir William Fitz Warin's life can be found in Beltz, Memorials of the Most Noble Order of the Garter (1841): 96–98. Beltz states that in 1339 he attended the King into Flanders and in the same year was in the war against Scotland. He was again in Flanders in 1340, and in 1342, In France, with the rank of banneret, having in his retinue one knight, eight esquires, and ten mounted archers. Froissart numbers him among the commanders in the expedition to France in 1346. He was Knight of the Body to Queen Philippe in 1349.

A biography of Sir William Fitz Warin's son, Sir Ives Fitz Warin, can be found in E.F. Jacob, Reg. of Henry Chichele Archbishop of Canterbury 1414–1443 (Canterbury & York Soc. 54) (1937): 653.

In answer to your specific question regarding Ives Fitz Warin's wife, she was Maud Argentine, widow of Richard de Merton, Knt., and daughter and heiress of John Argentine, Knt., of Great Wymondley, Hertfordshire, by Margaret, daughter and heiress of Robert Darcy, of Stallingborough, Lincolnshire. Ives and Maud had two daughters, namely Eleanor (wife of John Chideock) and Alice (wife of Richard Whittington).

For interest's sake, the following is a list of the 17th Century colonial American immigrants who descend from Sir William Fitz Warin and his son, Sir Ives Fitz Warin. Details on specific descents will be included in my forthcoming book, Magna Carta Ancestry, scheduled for publication in mid-2005.

1. Charles Calvert
2. John Nelson
3. William & Elizabeth Pole
4. Mary Johanna Somerset
5. Thomas Wingfield

Best always, Douglas Richardson, Salt Lake City, Utah
Website: www.royalancestry.net

leovdpas@netspeed.com.au ("Leo van de Pas") wrote in message news:<000801c4c9c2$5139d700$c3b4fea9@email>...

>> In Burke's Extinct Peerage, 1866, page 214 (I know) we find
>> William FitzWarine, called Le Frere, was elevated to the peerage as a Baron, by writ of summons, dated 25 February 1342. He married Amicia Haddon, died in 1361 and was succeeded by his son
>> Ivo or John Fitz-Warine, 2nd Baron but was never summoned to parliament. He died in 1414, he married (no name mentioned) and had an only daughter and heiress, Eleanor.
>>
>> This family is only touched upon by the Complete Peerage, Volume V, pages 512,513
>>
>> It starts with Sir William FitzWarin, le frere, who was summoned to council, 25 February 1341/1342, he died of pestilence 28 October or 3 November 1361 and was buried at Wantage.
>> The Council which summoned him, is described as "incorrectly described as a Parliament by Dugdale and others." In other words, he was not a Baron, and therefor his son is not mentioned at all. I could find no mention in Volume XIV.
>>
>> In the Complete Peerage Volume I page 197 (thanks Robert O'Connor) we find Maud de Argentine who married Sir Ives FitzWarin. Apparently she was married before but only had issue by her second husband Sir Ives/Ivo FitzWarin. Is this Maud the wife not mentioned by the Extinct Peerage? In which case she is the mother of Eleanor, mentioned above.
>> Can anyone confirm this?
>>
>> By the way, this Eleanor has descendants with links to the USA
>> Charles Calvert, 3rd Lord Baltimore
>> Maria Joanna Somerset
>> John Nelson
>> John Alston
>> Hon. Robert Monckton
>> Lord Charles Greville Montagu
>> Franklin Delano Roosevelt
>> John Steele Gordon
>> as well, she is an ancestor of Prince William of Wales.
>>
>> Hope someone can help.
>> With many thanks
>> Leo van de Pas
>> Canberra, Australia.3

Citations

  1. [S1832] Leo van de Pas, "van de Pas email 13 Nov 2004 "FitzWarine puzzle"," e-mail message from e-mail address (unknown address) to e-mail address, 13 Nov 2004. Hereinafter cited as "van de Pas email 13 Nov 2004."
  2. [S1490] Genealogics Website (oiginated by Leo van de Pas, continued by Ian Fettes), online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Amicia de Haddon: http://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00199049&tree=LEO. Hereinafter cited as Genealogics Website.
  3. [S1833] Douglas Richardson, "Richardson email 14 Nov 2004: "Re: FitzWarine puzzle"," e-mail message from e-mail address (unknown address) to e-mail address, 14 Nov 2004. Hereinafter cited as "Richardson email 14 Nov 2004."
  4. [S1490] Genealogics Website, online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Ivo FitzWarine: http://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00199046&tree=LEO

Amicia de Haddon1,2

F, #67684
FatherSir Henry de Haddon3 d. 16 Aug 1348
Last Edited15 Oct 2008
     Amicia de Haddon married Sir William "le Frere" Fitz Warin Baron Fitzwarine, son of Fulk VI Fitz Warin 2nd Lord Fitzwarine and Alianora de Beauchamp.1,2
     ; van de Pas cites: 1. A Genealogical History of the dormant, abeyant, forfeited and extinct peerages of the British Empire, London, 1866, Burke, Sir Bernard, Reference: 214
2. The Complete Peerage, 1936 , Doubleday, H.A. & Lord Howard de Walden, Reference: V 512.2

Family

Sir William "le Frere" Fitz Warin Baron Fitzwarine d. bt 28 Oct 1361 - 3 Nov 1361
Child

Citations

  1. [S1832] Leo van de Pas, "van de Pas email 13 Nov 2004 "FitzWarine puzzle"," e-mail message from e-mail address (unknown address) to e-mail address, 13 Nov 2004. Hereinafter cited as "van de Pas email 13 Nov 2004."
  2. [S1490] Genealogics Website (oiginated by Leo van de Pas, continued by Ian Fettes), online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Amicia de Haddon: http://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00199049&tree=LEO. Hereinafter cited as Genealogics Website.
  3. [S1490] Genealogics Website, online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Sir Henry de Haddon: http://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00199050&tree=LEO
  4. [S1490] Genealogics Website, online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Ivo FitzWarine: http://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00199046&tree=LEO

Sir Ivo/John Fitz Warin 2nd Baron Fitzwarine1,2

M, #67685, b. 1343, d. 6 September 1414
FatherSir William "le Frere" Fitz Warin Baron Fitzwarine1,4,2 d. bt 28 Oct 1361 - 3 Nov 1361
MotherAmicia de Haddon1,2,3
Last Edited15 Oct 2008
     Sir Ivo/John Fitz Warin 2nd Baron Fitzwarine married Maud de Argentine, daughter of Sir John de Argentine Knt., of Great Wymondley, Hertfordshire and Margaret Darcy of Stallingborough, Lincolnshire; her 2nd husband.4,2 Sir Ivo/John Fitz Warin 2nd Baron Fitzwarine was born in 1343.2
Sir Ivo/John Fitz Warin 2nd Baron Fitzwarine died on 6 September 1414 at Wantage, Berkshire, England.1,2
     ; van de Pas cites: 1. A Genealogical History of the dormant, abeyant, forfeited and extinct peerages of the British Empire, London, 1866, Burke, Sir Bernard, Reference: 214
2. Memorials of the Most Noble Order of the Garter 1861, Beltz, George Frederick.2

; per van de Pas: "Ivo's home seems to have been at his cousin's manor of Wantage in Berkshire, but, like his father, Ivo was abroad on military service throughout much of his life. In 1380, he was, with his banner and pennon, in the retinue of Thomas of Woodstock, Earl of Buckingham, at the Siege of Nantes. Five years later, he attended John of Gaunt, Duke of Lancaster, in his expedition for the recovery of the inheritance of his wife, titular Queen Constance of Castile and Leon. He died 6 September 1414, and was buried in Wantage Church; there being, against the wall of the north aisle, a superb brass figure, which represents him, five foot tall in full armour with a moustache, very unusual in a brass.

By his wife, Maud, daughter of Sir John d'Argentine, Ivo apparently had a single daughter and heiress, Eleanor, who married Sir John Chidiock. However, legend tells of a second child, Alice. Ivo was said to have had considerable mercantile interests in London, with extensive premises in Leadenhall Street in the centre of the City. It was here that the celebrated Dick Whittington, three times Lord Mayor of London, is said to have fallen in love with young Alice. Although they may have known each other previously since Dick appears to have hailed from the old family seat of Whittington in Shropshire. The two were eventually married and Alice became the toast of the city. All three remain characters in Christmas pantomimes to this day."2

; Sad to say, I'm afraid your friend lead you wrong. The online site is incorrect about Sir Ives Fitz Warin's daughter, Alice, being ficticious. In 1402 Sir Ives made arrangements whereby certain of his estates in Somerset and Wiltshire should pass to his daughter, Alice, and her husband, Richard Whittington, the wealthy London merchant. Alice was ill in 1409 and died soon afterwards. In 1412 Sir Ives Fitz Warin made his will in which he named his two sons-in-law, Richard Whittington and John Chideock (husband of his daughter, Eleanor). He appointed Richard Whittington one of his executors. At the time of his death in 1414, Sir Ives Fitz Warin was survived only by his daughter, Eleanor, who was sole heiress to all his estates [Reference: J.S. Roskell, House of Commons, 3 (1992): 84-87].

Richard Whittington died in 1423, and was buried beside his wife, Alice, in a tomb which he had built in the church of St. Michael Paternoster. They had no children [Reference: J.S. Roskell, House of Commons, 4 (1992): 846-849].

In addition to Roskell cited above, I might recommend that you consult C.M. Barron's good account of Richard Whittington in the book, Studies in London History, edited by Hollaender and Kellaway, pp. 197-248.

Medieval genealogy is not like painting by numbers. It is best done by consulting reliable reference works like Roskell, and, where possible, checking the original records themselves.

Best always, Douglas Richardson, Salt Lake City, Utah
Website: www.royalancestry.net


leovdpas@netspeed.com.au ("Leo van de Pas") wrote in message news:<001c01c4ca90$fa984100$c3b4fea9@email>...

>> I was given these great entries, which answered my questions. What I found
>> fascinating was the mention of a "legendary" daughter of Ivo who married
>> Dick Whittington. It appears she is only "legend" and should be ignored in
>> genealogy.
>>
>
>>> > See URL:
>>> > http://www.britannia.com/bios/gents/wfitzwarin.html
>>> > and
>>> > http://www.britannia.com/bios/gents/ifitzwarin.html
>>> >
>>> > It cites George Frederick Beltz's _Memorials of the Most Noble Order of
>
>> the
>
>>> > Garter_ (1861). Perhaps review of Beltz work and its sources might
>
>> provide
>
>>> > additional substantiation of the stated relationships.
>>> >
>
>> Best wishes
>> Leo van de Pas
>> Canberra.5 Sir Ivo/John Fitz Warin 2nd Baron Fitzwarine was also known as Sir Eudes Fitz Warin Knt. Sir Ivo/John Fitz Warin 2nd Baron Fitzwarine was also known as Sir Ives fitz Warin Knt.6

Sir Ivo/John Fitz Warin 2nd Baron Fitzwarine lived at Caundle Haddon, Dorsetshire, England.7

Citations

  1. [S1832] Leo van de Pas, "van de Pas email 13 Nov 2004 "FitzWarine puzzle"," e-mail message from e-mail address (unknown address) to e-mail address, 13 Nov 2004. Hereinafter cited as "van de Pas email 13 Nov 2004."
  2. [S1490] Genealogics Website (oiginated by Leo van de Pas, continued by Ian Fettes), online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Ivo FitzWarine: http://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00199046&tree=LEO. Hereinafter cited as Genealogics Website.
  3. [S1490] Genealogics Website, online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Amicia de Haddon: http://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00199049&tree=LEO
  4. [S1833] Douglas Richardson, "Richardson email 14 Nov 2004: "Re: FitzWarine puzzle"," e-mail message from e-mail address (unknown address) to e-mail address, 14 Nov 2004. Hereinafter cited as "Richardson email 14 Nov 2004."
  5. [S1834] Douglas Richardson, "Richardson email 16 Nov 2004: "Re: FitzWarine puzzle"," e-mail message from e-mail address (unknown address) to e-mail address, 16 Nov 2004. Hereinafter cited as "Richardson email 16 Nov 2004."
  6. [S2261] Douglas Richardson, Plantagenet Ancestry: A Study in Colonial and Medieval Families, 1st edition (n.p.: Genealogical Publishing Company, Inc., 2004), Calvert 11: pp. 180-181. Hereinafter cited as Richardson PA.
  7. [S673] David Faris, Plantagenet Ancestry of Seventeenth-Century Colonists: The Descent from the Later Plantagenet Kings of England, Henry III, Edward I, and Edward III, of Emigrants from England and Wales to the North American Colonies before 1701, English Ancestry Series, Volume 1, Second Edition (Boston, MA: New England Historic Genealogical Society, 1999), pp. 148-149. Hereinafter cited as Faris [1999] - Plantagenet Ancestry.
  8. [S1490] Genealogics Website, online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Eleanor FitzWarine: http://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00198901&tree=LEO
  9. [S2261] Douglas Richardson, Richardson PA, Fitz Walter 10: p. 329.

Maud de Argentine1

F, #67686
FatherSir John de Argentine Knt., of Great Wymondley, Hertfordshire1,2 b. 1318, d. bt 18 Nov 1382 - 26 Nov 1382
MotherMargaret Darcy of Stallingborough, Lincolnshire1
Last Edited15 Oct 2008
     Maud de Argentine married Sir Ivo/John Fitz Warin 2nd Baron Fitzwarine, son of Sir William "le Frere" Fitz Warin Baron Fitzwarine and Amicia de Haddon; her 2nd husband.1,3 Maud de Argentine married Richard de Merton; her 1st husband.4
     ; *.1

Family 1

Richard de Merton

Citations

  1. [S1833] Douglas Richardson, "Richardson email 14 Nov 2004: "Re: FitzWarine puzzle"," e-mail message from e-mail address (unknown address) to e-mail address, 14 Nov 2004. Hereinafter cited as "Richardson email 14 Nov 2004."
  2. [S1490] Genealogics Website (oiginated by Leo van de Pas, continued by Ian Fettes), online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, John d'Argentine, of Halesworth: http://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00451127&tree=LEO. Hereinafter cited as Genealogics Website.
  3. [S1490] Genealogics Website, online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Ivo FitzWarine: http://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00199046&tree=LEO
  4. [S1834] Douglas Richardson, "Richardson email 16 Nov 2004: "Re: FitzWarine puzzle"," e-mail message from e-mail address (unknown address) to e-mail address, 16 Nov 2004. Hereinafter cited as "Richardson email 16 Nov 2004."
  5. [S1490] Genealogics Website, online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Eleanor FitzWarine: http://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00198901&tree=LEO

Sir John de Argentine Knt., of Great Wymondley, Hertfordshire1,2

M, #67687, b. 1318, d. between 18 November 1382 and 26 November 1382
FatherSir John d'Argentine Knt.2,3 d. 1318
MotherAgnes de Berford4,2 d. 18 Jul 1375
Last Edited15 Oct 2008
     Sir John de Argentine Knt., of Great Wymondley, Hertfordshire married Margaret Darcy of Stallingborough, Lincolnshire, daughter of Robert Darcy of Stallingborough, Lincolnshire.2 Sir John de Argentine Knt., of Great Wymondley, Hertfordshire was born in 1318.2
Sir John de Argentine Knt., of Great Wymondley, Hertfordshire died between 18 November 1382 and 26 November 1382.2
     ; van de Pas cites: The Complete Peerage, 1936 , Doubleday, H.A. & Lord Howard de Walden, Reference: I 197.2

Citations

  1. [S1833] Douglas Richardson, "Richardson email 14 Nov 2004: "Re: FitzWarine puzzle"," e-mail message from e-mail address (unknown address) to e-mail address, 14 Nov 2004. Hereinafter cited as "Richardson email 14 Nov 2004."
  2. [S1490] Genealogics Website (oiginated by Leo van de Pas, continued by Ian Fettes), online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, John d'Argentine, of Halesworth: http://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00451127&tree=LEO. Hereinafter cited as Genealogics Website.
  3. [S1490] Genealogics Website, online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, John d'Argentine, of Halesworth: http://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00451122&tree=LEO
  4. [S1490] Genealogics Website, online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Agnes Bereford: http://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00451124&tree=LEO

Margaret Darcy of Stallingborough, Lincolnshire1

F, #67688
FatherRobert Darcy of Stallingborough, Lincolnshire1
Last Edited15 Oct 2008
     Margaret Darcy of Stallingborough, Lincolnshire married Sir John de Argentine Knt., of Great Wymondley, Hertfordshire, son of Sir John d'Argentine Knt. and Agnes de Berford.2

Family

Sir John de Argentine Knt., of Great Wymondley, Hertfordshire b. 1318, d. bt 18 Nov 1382 - 26 Nov 1382
Child

Citations

  1. [S1833] Douglas Richardson, "Richardson email 14 Nov 2004: "Re: FitzWarine puzzle"," e-mail message from e-mail address (unknown address) to e-mail address, 14 Nov 2004. Hereinafter cited as "Richardson email 14 Nov 2004."
  2. [S1490] Genealogics Website (oiginated by Leo van de Pas, continued by Ian Fettes), online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, John d'Argentine, of Halesworth: http://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00451127&tree=LEO. Hereinafter cited as Genealogics Website.

Robert Darcy of Stallingborough, Lincolnshire1

M, #67689
Last Edited15 Oct 2005

Citations

  1. [S1833] Douglas Richardson, "Richardson email 14 Nov 2004: "Re: FitzWarine puzzle"," e-mail message from e-mail address (unknown address) to e-mail address, 14 Nov 2004. Hereinafter cited as "Richardson email 14 Nov 2004."

Rissa (?)1

F, #67690
Last Edited7 Oct 2020
     Rissa (?) married Roger I de Berkeley.1,2
     ; van de Pas cites: The Plantagenet Ancestry, Baltimore, 1975 , Turton, Lt.Col. W. H., Reference: 120.1

Family

Roger I de Berkeley b. c 1050, d. 1093
Child

Citations

  1. [S1490] Genealogics Website (oiginated by Leo van de Pas, continued by Ian Fettes), online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Rissa: http://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00054190&tree=LEO. Hereinafter cited as Genealogics Website.
  2. [S1490] Genealogics Website, online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Roger I de Berkeley: http://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00054189&tree=LEO

Margaret Mauntell1

F, #67691
Last Edited13 Jul 2008
     Margaret Mauntell married Thomas Bernard Esq., of Abington, Northants.1

Citations

  1. [S2261] Douglas Richardson, Plantagenet Ancestry: A Study in Colonial and Medieval Families, 1st edition (n.p.: Genealogical Publishing Company, Inc., 2004), Bernard 13: p. 102. Hereinafter cited as Richardson PA.

Alice Fitz Warin1

F, #67692
FatherSir Ivo/John Fitz Warin 2nd Baron Fitzwarine1 b. 1343, d. 6 Sep 1414
MotherMaud de Argentine1
Last Edited15 Oct 2005
     Alice Fitz Warin married Richard "Dick" Whittington.1

Citations

  1. [S1833] Douglas Richardson, "Richardson email 14 Nov 2004: "Re: FitzWarine puzzle"," e-mail message from e-mail address (unknown address) to e-mail address, 14 Nov 2004. Hereinafter cited as "Richardson email 14 Nov 2004."

Richard "Dick" Whittington1

M, #67693, d. 1423
Last Edited15 Oct 2005
     Richard "Dick" Whittington married Alice Fitz Warin, daughter of Sir Ivo/John Fitz Warin 2nd Baron Fitzwarine and Maud de Argentine.1
Richard "Dick" Whittington died in 1423; no childred.2

Citations

  1. [S1833] Douglas Richardson, "Richardson email 14 Nov 2004: "Re: FitzWarine puzzle"," e-mail message from e-mail address (unknown address) to e-mail address, 14 Nov 2004. Hereinafter cited as "Richardson email 14 Nov 2004."
  2. [S1834] Douglas Richardson, "Richardson email 16 Nov 2004: "Re: FitzWarine puzzle"," e-mail message from e-mail address (unknown address) to e-mail address, 16 Nov 2004. Hereinafter cited as "Richardson email 16 Nov 2004."

Wynflæd (?)1

F, #67695
Fatherunknown (?)1
MotherBrihtwyn (?)1,2
ReferenceGAV30
Last Edited11 Jul 2020
     Reference: Genealogics cites: Will of Wynflaed, Shaftesbury nunnery archive, ca. 950 , Wareham, Andrew.2 GAV-30.

; Per Ravilious email:
     "In an SGM thread in 1999, there was discussion of the identity of Wynflaed, shown in an AT as the father of St. Ælfgifu (wife of Edmund I, King of England 940-946). Todd questioned this identification, on the basis that the name 'Wynflaed' had a feminine ending, but there evidently was no resolution at that time on this issue [1].
     "Courtesy of the Foundation for Medieval Genealogy, Michael Wood's transcription of Searle's work on Anglo-Saxon pedigrees [hereafter refered to in this post as "ASP"] has the answer, or at least a direction for finding same. The annotation to p. 347 of the copy held in the London Library states concerning Ælfgifu: "Her mother's name was Wynflaed. BCS 1186, d. 966." [2]
     "The annotations in ASP were allegedly made by Searle himself, although Michael Wood has shown this to be impossible in certain specific cases [3]. Irregardless, I have found that the will of Wynflæd has been published by Dorothy Whitelock [4], and was a source for the Victoria County History account for Eynsham, co. Oxon. [5].
     " Following is an interesting analysis of the will of Wynflæd by Andrew Wareham:
     "" Will of Wynflæd, Shaftesbury nunnery archive, c. 950
     "Wynflæd has been tentatively identified as the mother-in-law of King Edmund and niece of Bishop Alfred of Sherborne [22]. In her testament matrilineal and patrilineal ideologies of kinship were kept in equilibrium. Wynflæd had inherited an estate from her mother Brihtwyn, and two of Wynflæd's other estates lay about ten to fifteen kilometres from one of Brihtwyn's properties [23]. In her testament Wynflæd disposed of the following: two Dorset properties; one estate in Wiltshire, possibly acquired from the crown; and a residence, perhaps in Dorset, which she had inherited from her mother [24]. One estate was granted to the Shaftesbury nunnery, but the other properties passed to her daughter, Æthelflæd, along with numerous household chattels [25]. In return Æthelflæd had 'to be mindful' of her mother's soul, and ws asked to oversee gifts of men and stock from these three estates to two royal nunneries and two royal minsters in the south-west. Through these transactions vertical bonds of female kinship linking the grandmother, Brihtwyn, to her granddaughter, Æthelflæd, were emphasized. The spiritual relationship between Æthelflæd and the Shaftesbury nunnery gave value to horizontal female kinship ties, forging an alliance between Æthelflæd, her sister who was buried at Shaftesbury, and her royalvmother-in-law.
     "The strength of patrilineal ideologies was demonstrated by the bequest of four estates in Hampshire and Berkshire [26]. As one of these estates had been Wynflæd's marriage gift from her husband, it seems likely that the remaining three estates had also passed from her husband's resouces. Wynflæd bequeathed these estates to Eadmær, identified as her son, and when his son (Eadwold) reached his majority, he was to receive two of these properties [27]. Eadmær was required to make gifts in coin and stock to five minsters in Berkshire, which had no known connections with the monarchy or with Wynflæd's own family. Estates which had descended from Wynflæd's family of birth and the royal fisc were used to emphasize ties between kinswomen in association with royal nunneries and minsters in the south-west, whereas estates acquired from her husband were used to focus attention upon the male line of descent linking grandfather to grandson in association with a group of non-royal minsters in Berkshire." [6]
     "The following chart is based on the text of Wynflæd's will as interpreted by Andrew Wareham, the chart provided by Wareham (p. 382) and pedigrees of the Anglo-Saxon kings (including Searle, pp. 346-7).

___________________________________
I I
NN = Brihtwyn Alfred
I Bishop of Sherborne, 933-ca. 941
I
I
NN = Wynflæd
I
___I____________________________________________
I I I
Edmund = Ælfgifu Æthelflæd Eadmær
K of I I
England I I
940-946 I ________I____
______I____________ I I
I I I I
Edwy Edgar = 1) Æthelflæd Eadwold Eadgifu
K of K of I = 2) Ælfthryth
England England I I
955-959 959-975 I I___________________
________I _________I________
I I I
Edward 'the Martyr' Edmund Æthelræd 'Unræd'
King 975-978 d. ca. 970 King 978-1013, 1014-16

     "What possibility there is for identifying the husbands of Wynflæd and Brihtwyn is uncertain; perhaps the manors held by Wynflaed (including her dower of Faccombe) as named by Wareham may advance that effort.
Hope this is helpful. Cheers, John *
NOTES
[1] Alan B. Wilson, , SGM, 20 July 1999, states in part [reply to post by Todd A. Farmerie]:

In article <3794AF31.175E@po.cwru.edu>, "Todd A. Farmerie"
wrote:
>> As far as i know, there is no contemporary source for the father of St.
>> Aelfgifu. As to the name you give, Wynflaed, the -flaed ending is more
>> typical of a female name. Still Hart is a good researcher, and might
>> have found something of value.

     "Actually Cyril Hart in Table 3.4, p. 128, shows Eadmund m., firstly, ca 940, Aelfgifu, dau. of Wynflaed, d. 943/4. This leaves open the possibility that Wynflaed is either Aelfgifu's father or mother. While I photocopied the charts, I do not have the text available at home to see whether this is clarified, and on what evidence Hart relied. "
[2] William George Searle, Anglo-Saxon Bishops, Kings and Nobles: The Succession of the Bishops and the Pedigrees of the Kings andNobles [Cambridge: the University Press, 1899], p. 347. Text and annotations (entitled Anglo-Saxon Pedigrees Annotated-Part 1, transcribed by Michael Wood) courtesy Foundation for Medieval Genealogy, http://fmg.ac/
[3] Ibid., p. 269.
[4] Dorothy Whitelock, ed., Anglo-Saxon Wills [Cambridge: Cambridge University Press, 1930]. Source not seen.
[5] A History of the County of Oxford, XII:98-110 (courtesy British History Online, http://www.britishhistory.ac.uk/report.asp?compid=5203
     "A further possibility that in the 10th century Eynsham belonged to a succession of closely related members of the West Saxon royal household depends upon its identification as the Inggeneshamme, Incgenaesham, or Igenesham of several surviving wills. The forms have been attributed usually to Inglesham (Wilts.), although the 10th-century Latin chronicler Aethelweard used the very similar form Ignesham for the undisputed Egenesham of 571 in his translation of the Chronicle.
(Footnote 20)
Aethelweard, whose son Aethelmaer founded Eynsham abbey, may have known Eynsham, since it possibly already belonged to a kinsman. In the mid 10th century Wynflaed, probably grandmother of King Edgar, by will gave Inggeneshamme to her son Eadmaer. (Footnote 21) Later Aelfheah (d. c. 971), ealdorman of Hampshire, by will gave Incgenaesham to King Edgar, to whom he was related. (Footnote 22) The chronicler Aethelweard, as a descendant of Ethelred, king of Wessex, was related to both Wynflaed and Aelfheah. (Footnote 23) Aelfheah's successor as ealdorman of Hampshire, Aethelmaer (d. 982), by will gave Igenesham to an unnamed elder son, (Footnote 24) and before 1005 Aethelmaer, son of Aethelweard the chronicler, acquired Egnesham by exchange from another Aethelweard, his son-in-law. (Footnote 25) The son-in-law's antecedents are not known, but it is possible that he was a descendant of Aethelmaer, ealdorman of Hampshire, and that the Igenesham bequeathed in 982 was the Egnesham of 1005. Interpretation of the place-name Eynsham, which compounds with hamm (river meadow) a personal name which is either AngloSaxon or Celtic, depends upon which early forms are accepted.
(Footnote 26) "
[ Footnotes to the VCH account above: ]
20 Chron. of Aethelweard, ed. A. Campbell, 13. The editor dismisses the translation as a 'slip': ibid. p. Iviii.
21 D. Whitelock, A.-S. Wills, pp. 10–15, 108–10, Finberg, Wessex Chart. pp.44, 90.
22 Whitelock, Wills, pp. 22–5, 121–2.
23 Chron. of Aethelweard,pp. xiii sqq; S. Keynes, Diplomas of King Aethelred, p. 188; cf. Whitelock, Wills, pp.118-19.
24 Ibid. pp. 24–7, 125–6; Finberg, Wessex Chart. pp.55–6, 99; Gelling, Thames Valley Chart. pp. 133-4.
25 Eynsham Cart. i, pp. 19 sqq. For Aethelmaer see Chron. of Aethelweard, pp. xiii sqq; Keynes, Diplomas, 192, 209-10.
26 P.N. Oxon. (E.P.N.S.), ii. 258-9; Ekwall, Dict. Eng. Place Names, 171-2.

[6] Andrew Wareham, The Transformation of Kinship and the Family in Late Anglo-Saxon England [Early Medieval Europe 10 (3)], pp. 381-383. Footnotes to the text ["W" :
     "22. W., p. 109; Charters of Shaftesbury Abbey, ed. S. E. Kelly, Anglo-Saxon Charters 5 (London, 1996), pp. xiii-xiv.
     "23. W. , no. 4 (S 1539), p. 14, ls. 29-30; Charters of Shaftesbury Abbey, ed. Kelly, nos. 13, 16.
     "24. W., no. 4, p. 10, ls. 7-15. She had the title deed to Ebbesborne (Wilts.), possibly a royal grant. For other Ebbesborne grants by the crown, S 522; S 635; S 640; S 696; S 861.
     "25. W., no. 4, p. 10, ls. 7-15.
     "26. Ibid., p. 10, ls. 15-27; p. 12, ls. 23-4.
     "27. On kinship, ibid., p. 110. On property, the exception to this pattern was Wynflæd's marriage gift, Faccombe, which after the death of Eadmær was to pass to her daughter (Æthelflæd) and then to her grandson Eadwold. Wynflæd may have included her daughter Æthelflæd because she had greater control over her marriage gift than over the other estates (Adderbury, Coleshill, Inglesham) received from her husband."
* John P. Ravilious."1

Family

Child

Citations

  1. [S1836] John P. Ravilious, "Ravilious email 14 Nov 2004: "Re: Wynflaed, great-grandmother of Æthelræd II of England"," e-mail message from e-mail address (unknown address) to e-mail address, 14 Nov 2004. Hereinafter cited as "Ravilious email 14 Nov 2004."
  2. [S1490] Genealogics Website (oiginated by Leo van de Pas, continued by Ian Fettes), online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Wynflaed: https://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00451147&tree=LEO. Hereinafter cited as Genealogics Website.
  3. [S1490] Genealogics Website, online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, St. Aelgifu: https://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00020088&tree=LEO

Brihtwyn (?)1

F, #67696
ReferenceGAV31
Last Edited11 Jul 2020
     Brihtwyn (?) married unknown (?)
     GAV-31.

Citations

  1. [S1836] John P. Ravilious, "Ravilious email 14 Nov 2004: "Re: Wynflaed, great-grandmother of Æthelræd II of England"," e-mail message from e-mail address (unknown address) to e-mail address, 14 Nov 2004. Hereinafter cited as "Ravilious email 14 Nov 2004."
  2. [S1490] Genealogics Website (oiginated by Leo van de Pas, continued by Ian Fettes), online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Wynflaed: https://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00451147&tree=LEO. Hereinafter cited as Genealogics Website.

unknown (?)1

M, #67697
ReferenceGAV31
Last Edited28 Dec 2005
     Unknown (?) married Brihtwyn (?)
     GAV-31.

Citations

  1. [S1836] John P. Ravilious, "Ravilious email 14 Nov 2004: "Re: Wynflaed, great-grandmother of Æthelræd II of England"," e-mail message from e-mail address (unknown address) to e-mail address, 14 Nov 2004. Hereinafter cited as "Ravilious email 14 Nov 2004."

Robert de Beauchamp1

M, #67698, d. before 1137
FatherHugh de Beauchamp of Bedford1 d. b 1134
ReferenceGAV25
Last Edited28 Dec 2005
     Robert de Beauchamp died before 1137; died before his brother Simon. Ravilious cites: Richard Borthwick, "The Beauchamps, Followup #1," Jan 26, 1997, GEN-MEDIEVAL-L@rootsweb.com.1
     GAV-25.

Citations

  1. [S1838] John P. Ravilious, "Ravilious email #1 23 Nov 2004 "Re: Morville - Stuteville question"," e-mail message from e-mail address (unknown address) to e-mail address, 23 Nov 2004. Hereinafter cited as "Ravilious email #1 23 Nov 2004."

(?) de Beauchamp1

F, #67699
FatherSimon de Beauchamp of Bedford1
Last Edited15 Oct 2005
     ; per Ravilious: "m. Hugh de Beaumont, Earl of Bedford". Ravilious cites: K. S. B. Keats-Rohan, "Domesday Descendants," The Boydell Press, Woodbridge, 2002, cited by Rosie Bevan, 'Re: de Stuteville' Jul 2, 2002, p. 723 (Osmund de Stuteville), full title: Domesday Descendants: A Prosopography of Persons, Occurring in English Documents 1066-1166: Pipe Rolls to Cartae Baronum.1

Citations

  1. [S1838] John P. Ravilious, "Ravilious email #1 23 Nov 2004 "Re: Morville - Stuteville question"," e-mail message from e-mail address (unknown address) to e-mail address, 23 Nov 2004. Hereinafter cited as "Ravilious email #1 23 Nov 2004."

Hugh de Morville1

M, #67700, b. circa 1105, d. circa 1162
FatherSimon de Morville2,3 d. 1167
MotherAda Engaine2,3
ReferenceGAV24
Last Edited9 Mar 2020
     Hugh de Morville married Beatrice de Beauchamp, daughter of Robert de Beauchamp.1,3,4 Hugh de Morville was born circa 1105.3
Hugh de Morville died circa 1162.1,3
     ; 1.2.3 Beatrice de Beauchamp: her maritagium included "...four knights' fees respectively at Bozeat, Northants, Whissendine and Whitwell in Rutland, Offord in Huntingdonshire, and Houghton Conquest beside Bedford--the 5 hides at Houghton having been originally acquired by Hugh de Beauchamp, Beatrice's grandfather, probably not long before 1086."[3]

NOTE: a sister of Payn de Beauchamp, and not daughter (see P. Junkin[7])
_______________________

re: her husband:

chancellor to King David I, 1144 (and possibly before)

'Hugh de Morville', witness [together with Alan de Perci, William de Somerville, Berengar Engaine, Randolph de Sules, William de Morville, Hervi son of Warin and Edmund the chamberlain] to charter
from King David I to Robert de Brus of the lordship of Annandale,
dated Scone, ca. 1124 [Donaldson, p. 19[8]]

' Hugo de Morevill ', one of the witnesses to David I.’s Charter of
Confirmation to Dunfermline Abbey, dated ca. 1127-1129 [Henderson,
Annals of Dunfermline: cites Regist. de Dunf. p. 4; Sibbald’s Hist.
Fife, p. 227; Chalmer’s Hist. Dunf. p. 133.[9]]

'Hugh de Moreville'', one of the witnesses to David I.’s [Second]
Charter of Confirmation to Dunfermline Abbey, dated ca. 1129-1130
[Henderson, Annals of Dunfermline: cites Registrum de Dunfermelyn,
pp. 5-7; Fernie’s Hist. Dunf. pp. 187-193; Mercer’s Hist. Dunf.
pp. 316-320.[9]]

1144.—ROYAL GIFT OF GOLD TO THE ABBEY.—About this period David I.
bequeaths, by charter-right, to the Abbey the tenth of all his gold
obtained in Fife and Fothriff. (Title of Charter, or Writ,
“De Decima Auri.”) Translation of the short Charter:--“David, King
of Scots, to all honest men, Greeting,--Be it known to you that I
have conceded, as a free gift, to the Church of the Holy Trinity,
Dunfermline, the tenth part of the whole of my gold obtained in Fife
and Fothrif.—T. Chancellor, HUGH DE MOREVILL; JOHN, Episcopus.—Given
at Elbothel.” (Print. Regist. de Dunf. p.16, cart. 28.)[9]

'Hugh de Moreville', witness to grant by King Malcolm IV (Charter No.
37 of the Register of Dunfermline, entitled “De capitibus piscium
quos vocant Crespeis”), dated 1155 [Henderson, Annals of
Dunfermline[9]]

Spouse: Hugh de Morville
Death: 1162[7]

Children: Richard (-1189)
Hugh
Maud

Ravilious cites:
3. G. W. S. Barrow, "The Anglo-Norman Era in Scottish History,"
Oxford, 1980, citation provided by Kathleen Much
(kathleen@casbs.stanford.edu), SGM, 3 January 1996.,
http://www.hypertree.com/galloway/fergus.html
cites G.W.S. Barrow, _The Anglo-Norman Era in Scottish History_
(Oxford, 1980), p. 17;, also K.J. Stringer, ed. _Essays of the
Nobility of Medieval Scotland_ (Edinburgh, 1985).
7. Patricia Junkin, "Re: Morville-Stuteville-Beauchamp," Jan 7,
2003, cites Reid (Transcriptions of the Dumfrieshire and Galloway
Natural History and Antiquarian Society), re: Ivo de Vipont and
Isabel de Lancaster; also Ragg in The Cumberland and Westmoreland
Antiquarian Society., charters of Matilda de Morevill and her son
Ivo de Vipont.
8. Gordon Donaldson, "Scottish Historical Documents," Edinburgh:
Scottish Academic Press, 1970.
9. Ebenezer Henderson, LL.D, "The Annals of Dunfermline and
Vicinity, from the Earliest Authentic Period to the Present Time,
A.D. 1069 - 1878," Glasgow: John Tweed, 1879, text available
courtesy of Electric Scotland,
http://www.electricscotland.com/history/dunfermline/.1 GAV-24.

; van de Pas cites: 1. The Plantagenet Ancestry, Baltimore, 1975 , Turton, Lt.Col. W. H., Reference: 101
2. Domesday Descendants, The Boydell Press, Woodbridge, 2002, Keats-Rohan, K.S.B., Reference: Page 602.3

; per van de Pas: "From about 1140 till he died about 1162, Hugh was constable of Scotland. In 1150 he founded Dryburgh Abbey, in Berwickshire, Scotland. One of his sons, also named Hugh, was one of four knights who, on 29 December 1170, murdered Thomas à Becket in Canterbury Cathedral."3 He was chancellor to King David I, 1144 (and possibly before.)1

Citations

  1. [S1838] John P. Ravilious, "Ravilious email #1 23 Nov 2004 "Re: Morville - Stuteville question"," e-mail message from e-mail address (unknown address) to e-mail address, 23 Nov 2004. Hereinafter cited as "Ravilious email #1 23 Nov 2004."
  2. [S1839] Leo van de Pas, "van de Pas email 23 Nov 2004 "Morville - Stuteville question"," e-mail message from e-mail address (unknown address) to e-mail address, 23 Nov 2004. Hereinafter cited as "van de Pas email 23 Nov 2004."
  3. [S1490] Genealogics Website (oiginated by Leo van de Pas, continued by Ian Fettes), online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Hugh de Moreville: http://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00196923&tree=LEO. Hereinafter cited as Genealogics Website.
  4. [S1490] Genealogics Website, online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Beatrice de Beauchamp: http://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00196924&tree=LEO
  5. [S1490] Genealogics Website, online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Maud de Moreville: http://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00175602&tree=LEO
  6. [S2203] Foundation for Medieval Genealogy (FMG): MEDIEVAL LANDS - A prosopography of medieval European noble and royal families, online http://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/index.htm, https://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/enguntlo.htm#RichardMorvilledied1189. Hereinafter cited as FMG Medieval Lands Website.

Hugh de Morville of Knaresburgh and North Westmoreland1,2,3

M, #67701, b. circa 1135
FatherHugh de Morville2,4 b. c 1105, d. c 1162
MotherBeatrice de Beauchamp2,5
Last Edited1 Jul 2006
     Hugh de Morville of Knaresburgh and North Westmoreland was born circa 1135.3
     ; per van de Pas: "He was one of the four knights who, on 29 December 1170, was responsible for the murder of Thomas Becket in Canterbury Cathedral."3

; van de Pas cites: 1. The Plantagenet Ancestry, Baltimore, 1975 , Turton, Lt.Col. W. H.
2. The Cambridge Biographical Encyclopedia, Cambridge, 1994 , Crystal, David.3

; per Ravilious: "evidently one of the murderers of Thomas Becket."2

Citations

  1. Ravilious cites:
    7. Patricia Junkin, "Re: Morville-Stuteville-Beauchamp," Jan 7,
    2003, cites Reid (Transcriptions of the Dumfrieshire and Galloway
    Natural History and Antiquarian Society), re: Ivo de Vipont and
    Isabel de Lancaster; also Ragg in The Cumberland and Westmoreland
    Antiquarian Society., charters of Matilda de Morevill and her son
    Ivo de Vipont.
  2. [S1838] John P. Ravilious, "Ravilious email #1 23 Nov 2004 "Re: Morville - Stuteville question"," e-mail message from e-mail address (unknown address) to e-mail address, 23 Nov 2004. Hereinafter cited as "Ravilious email #1 23 Nov 2004."
  3. [S1490] Genealogics Website (oiginated by Leo van de Pas, continued by Ian Fettes), online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Hugh de Moreville: http://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00197006&tree=LEO. Hereinafter cited as Genealogics Website.
  4. [S1490] Genealogics Website, online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Hugh de Moreville: http://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00196923&tree=LEO
  5. [S1490] Genealogics Website, online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Beatrice de Beauchamp: http://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00196924&tree=LEO

Maud de Morville1,2

F, #67702
FatherHugh de Morville1,2,3 b. c 1105, d. c 1162
MotherBeatrice de Beauchamp1,2,4
ReferenceGAV24
Last Edited1 Jul 2006
     Maud de Morville married William de Veteriponte, son of William Vipont.1,5,2
     GAV-24.

; van de Pas cites: The Plantagenet Ancestry, Baltimore, 1975 , Turton, Lt.Col. W. H., Reference: 142.2

; 1.2.3.3 Maud de Morville: 'In a charter of Meaburn, Matilda de Morevill "granted the Hospital of the Blessed Peter of York the whole of our land named Garethorn" and follows "I will cause my brother and lord, Hugh de Morvill, within the first six months after his return to England to confirm to the said poor the aforesaid grant..."[7]

Spouse: William de Veteriponte

Children: Ivo (-1239)
Robert (-1228)
Ravilious cites:
7. Patricia Junkin, "Re: Morville-Stuteville-Beauchamp," Jan 7,
2003, cites Reid (Transcriptions of the Dumfrieshire and Galloway
Natural History and Antiquarian Society), re: Ivo de Vipont and
Isabel de Lancaster; also Ragg in The Cumberland and Westmoreland
Antiquarian Society., charters of Matilda de Morevill and her son
Ivo de Vipont.1

Citations

  1. [S1838] John P. Ravilious, "Ravilious email #1 23 Nov 2004 "Re: Morville - Stuteville question"," e-mail message from e-mail address (unknown address) to e-mail address, 23 Nov 2004. Hereinafter cited as "Ravilious email #1 23 Nov 2004."
  2. [S1490] Genealogics Website (oiginated by Leo van de Pas, continued by Ian Fettes), online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Maud de Moreville: http://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00175602&tree=LEO. Hereinafter cited as Genealogics Website.
  3. [S1490] Genealogics Website, online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Hugh de Moreville: http://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00196923&tree=LEO
  4. [S1490] Genealogics Website, online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Beatrice de Beauchamp: http://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00196924&tree=LEO
  5. [S1490] Genealogics Website, online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, William Vipont: http://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00175601&tree=LEO

William de Veteriponte1

M, #67703
FatherWilliam Vipont2
ReferenceGAV24 EDV24
Last Edited20 Jul 2008
     William de Veteriponte married Maud de Morville, daughter of Hugh de Morville and Beatrice de Beauchamp.1,3,4
     ; van de Pas cites: The Plantagenet Ancestry, Baltimore, 1975 , Turton, Lt.Col. W. H., Reference: 142.3 GAV-24 EDV-24. William de Veteriponte was also known as William de Vipont. William de Veteriponte was also known as William Vipont.3

Family

Maud de Morville
Children

Citations

  1. [S1838] John P. Ravilious, "Ravilious email #1 23 Nov 2004 "Re: Morville - Stuteville question"," e-mail message from e-mail address (unknown address) to e-mail address, 23 Nov 2004. Hereinafter cited as "Ravilious email #1 23 Nov 2004."
  2. [S1490] Genealogics Website (oiginated by Leo van de Pas, continued by Ian Fettes), online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, William Vipont: http://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00175600&tree=LEO. Hereinafter cited as Genealogics Website.
  3. [S1490] Genealogics Website, online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, William Vipont: http://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00175601&tree=LEO
  4. [S1490] Genealogics Website, online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Maud de Moreville: http://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00175602&tree=LEO

Ivo de Vipont1

M, #67704, d. 1239
FatherWilliam de Veteriponte1,2
MotherMaud de Morville1,3
Last Edited9 Mar 2020
     Ivo de Vipont married Isabel de Lancaster, daughter of William I de Lancaster 5th Baron Kendal of Workington and Gundred de Warenne Countess of Warwick.1,4
Ivo de Vipont died in 1239.1
     ; 1.2.3.3.1 Ivo de Vipont, Death: 1239[7]

made or confirmed a gift of his mother,
' "..for the safety of my soul and for the souls of Hugh de Morvill
and William de Veteripont my father and Matilda de Veteriponte my
mother and Robert my brother and Isabel de Lancaster my wife...the
poor of the Hospital of St. Leonard Yoprk Garethorn with its
belongings." Roger and Richard Beauchamp witness this charter.'[7]

Spouse: Isabel de Lancaster
Father: William de Lancaster (-<1170)
Mother: Gundreda de Warenne (->1165)

Ravilious cites:
7. Patricia Junkin, "Re: Morville-Stuteville-Beauchamp," Jan 7,
2003, cites Reid (Transcriptions of the Dumfrieshire and Galloway
Natural History and Antiquarian Society), re: Ivo de Vipont and
Isabel de Lancaster; also Ragg in The Cumberland and Westmoreland
Antiquarian Society., charters of Matilda de Morevill and her son
Ivo de Vipont.1

Citations

  1. [S1838] John P. Ravilious, "Ravilious email #1 23 Nov 2004 "Re: Morville - Stuteville question"," e-mail message from e-mail address (unknown address) to e-mail address, 23 Nov 2004. Hereinafter cited as "Ravilious email #1 23 Nov 2004."
  2. [S1490] Genealogics Website (oiginated by Leo van de Pas, continued by Ian Fettes), online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, William Vipont: http://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00175601&tree=LEO. Hereinafter cited as Genealogics Website.
  3. [S1490] Genealogics Website, online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Maud de Moreville: http://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00175602&tree=LEO
  4. [S1490] Genealogics Website, online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Isabel de Lancaster: https://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00451650&tree=LEO

Isabel de Lancaster1

F, #67705
FatherWilliam I de Lancaster 5th Baron Kendal of Workington1,2,3 b. c 1115, d. c 1170
MotherGundred de Warenne Countess of Warwick1,4 b. 1117, d. a 1166
Last Edited9 Mar 2020
     Isabel de Lancaster married Ivo de Vipont, son of William de Veteriponte and Maud de Morville.1,3

Family

Ivo de Vipont d. 1239

Citations

  1. [S1838] John P. Ravilious, "Ravilious email #1 23 Nov 2004 "Re: Morville - Stuteville question"," e-mail message from e-mail address (unknown address) to e-mail address, 23 Nov 2004. Hereinafter cited as "Ravilious email #1 23 Nov 2004."
  2. [S1490] Genealogics Website (oiginated by Leo van de Pas, continued by Ian Fettes), online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, William de Lancaster: https://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00196929&tree=LEO. Hereinafter cited as Genealogics Website.
  3. [S1490] Genealogics Website, online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Isabel de Lancaster: https://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00451650&tree=LEO
  4. [S1490] Genealogics Website, online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Gundred de Warenne: https://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00196930&tree=LEO

Christian de Vipont1

F, #67706
FatherRobert de Vipont1 d. 1228
MotherIdonea de Builli1 d. 1240
Last Edited15 Aug 2019
     Christian de Vipont married Thomas de Greystoke, son of William de Greystoke and Hawise (Helewise) de Stuteville.1,2
     ; 1.2.3.3.2.2 Christian de Vipont[21]
Spouse: Thomas de Greystoke
Birth: aft 1202
Death: 1247[21],[15]
Father: William fitz Ranulf (-1209)
Mother: Hawise de Stuteville (-1228)

Children: Joan
Robert (-1254)
William (ca1242-1289)
Ravilious cites:
15. I. J. Sanders, "English Baronies: A Study of Their Origin and
Descent, 1086-1327," Oxford: Clarendon Press, 1960.
21. Alan B. Wilson, "Lords of Greystoke," Apr 10, 1999,
GEN-MEDIEVAL-L@rootsweb.com sources cited incl. CP, Early
Yorkshire Families (Clay) and English Baronies (Sanders).1

Family

Thomas de Greystoke b. a 1202, d. b 20 Jun 1247
Children

Citations

  1. [S1838] John P. Ravilious, "Ravilious email #1 23 Nov 2004 "Re: Morville - Stuteville question"," e-mail message from e-mail address (unknown address) to e-mail address, 23 Nov 2004. Hereinafter cited as "Ravilious email #1 23 Nov 2004."
  2. [S2092] John P. Ravilious, "Ravilious email 30 Aug 2006: "Re: CP Addition: Elizabeth, wife of Roger de Lascelles, Lord Lascelles"," e-mail message from e-mail address (unknown address) to e-mail address, 30 Aug 2006. Hereinafter cited as "Ravilious email 30 Aug 2006."

Thomas de Greystoke1

M, #67707, b. after 1202, d. before 20 June 1247
FatherWilliam de Greystoke1,2 d. 1209
MotherHawise (Helewise) de Stuteville1,2,3 d. a 1228
Last Edited9 Mar 2020
     Thomas de Greystoke married Christian de Vipont, daughter of Robert de Vipont and Idonea de Builli.1,2 Thomas de Greystoke was born after 1202.1
Thomas de Greystoke died before 20 June 1247.1,2
     ; per Ravilious: Thomas de Greystoke
Birth: aft 1202
Death: bef 20 Jun 1247[7],[1],[3]

of Greystoke, Cumberland
also styled Thomas fitz William[8]

'In 1209 Robert de Vipont owed 500 marks and 5 palfreys for the
custody of the land and heirs of William and the marriage of
his widow.'[2]

had grants for a market and fair at Greystoke ('Craystock'),
Cumberland dated 28 Oct 1245
' ...by K[ing] Hen III to Thomas son of William de Craystock.
To be held at the manor. Mandate in pursuance to the sh of
Cumberland (CChR, 1226–57, p. 288).'[9]

he d. before 20 June 1247, when ' the King took the homage of
Robert de Craystock, son and heir of Thomas Fitz William,
for all the lands and tenements which the same Thomas held
of the King in chief. ' [Yorks. Inq. I:36, note (b)[7], cites
Excerpta e Rotulis Finium vol. ii, p. 14]

Spouse: Christian de Vipont[1]
Father: Robert de Vipont, of Appleby, Westmoreland (-1228)
Mother: Idonea de Builly (-1242)

Children: Robert (-<1254)
William (<1224-1289)
Thomas
Joan

Ravilious cites:
1. Alan B. Wilson, "Lords of Greystoke," Apr 10, 1999, GEN-MEDIEVAL-L@rootsweb.com, sources cited incl. CP, Early Yorkshire Families (Clay) and English Baronies (Sanders).
2. Rosie Bevan, "Ancestry of Margery de Stuteville, wife of Sir Richard Foliot," August 31, 2002, paper copy: library of John P. Ravilious, citations from Rosie Bevan : rbevan@paradise.net.nz, cites Clay, Early Yorkshire Charters, Sanders, English Baronies; K. Keats-Rohan, Domesday Descendants.
3. I. J. Sanders, "English Baronies: A Study of Their Origin and Descent, 1086-1327," Oxford: Clarendon Press, 1960.
4. "Pedes Finium Ebor. Regnante Johanne A.D. MCXCIX. - A.D. MCCXIV.," The Surtees Society, Durham: Andrews & Co., 1897, Surtees series Vol. XCIV.
5. Rosie Bevan, "Ancestry of Margery de Stuteville," August 8, 2002, paper copy: library of John P. Ravilious, citations from Rosie Bevan : rbevan@paradise.net.nz, cites Clay, Early Yorkshire Charters; Sanders, English Baronies; K.Keats-Rohan, Domesday Descendants.
6. Richard Borthwick, "Researching de Brus and Descendants," Aug 21, 1999, GEN-MEDIEVAL-L@rootsweb.com, also from Rosie Bevan (Re: Roger, Earl of Warwick, Feb 12, 2001).
7. William Brown, B.A., ed., "Yorkshire Inquisitions," The Yorkshire Archaeological Society, Record Series), various dates:, Vol. I (Record series vol. XII) - 1892, Vol. II(Record series vol. XXIII) - 1898, Vol. III (Record series vol. XXXI) - 1902, Vol. IV (Record series vol. XXXVII) - 1906.
8. G. E. Cokayne, "The Complete Peerage," 1910 - [microprint, 1982 (Alan Sutton) ], The Complete Peerage of England Scotland Ireland Great Britain and the United Kingdom.
9. "Gazetteer of Markets and Fairs to 1516," http://www.histparl.ac.uk/cmh/gaz/
10. Sir William Dugdale, "Monasticon Anglicanum," London: Harding & Lepard; and Longman Rees... Green, 1830, Vol. VI, Pt. 1 - Austin Abbey of Wigmore, in Herefordshire, pp. 348-356 [Fundationis et Fundatorum Historia], Vol. VI, Pt. 2 - Priory of Bullington, co. Lincs., pp. 951-954, URL
http://monasticmatrix.usc.edu/bibliographia/index.php?function=detail&id=2659
11. William Dugdale, Norroy King of Arms, "The Baronage of England," Tho. Newcomb [reprint Georg Verlag, New York], London, 1675 [reprint New York, 1977].
12. "Calendar of the Patent Rolls," preserved in the Public Record Office, Edward I. A.D. 1272-1281, London: for the Public Record Office.
13. Douglas Richardson, "C.P. Addition: Parentage of Isabel de Roos, wife of Roger de Merlay and Adam de Everingham," 18 November 2005, GEN-MEDIEVAL-L@rootsweb.com, cites James Wilson, "Some Extinct Cumberland Families, IV: The Greystokes" The Ancestor, 6 (1903):121-134.
14. "Collectanea Topographica et Genealogica," London: John Bowyer Nichols and Son, 1838, Vol. V.
15. K. J. Allison, ed., "A History of the County of York, East Riding," Oxford: published for the Institute of Historical Research, Oxford Univ. Press, 1969, Vol. III.
16. Rev. Charles Moor, D.D., F.S.A., "Knights of Edward I," Pubs. of the Harleian Society, 1929-1930, 3 Vols. (Vols. 80-83 in series).
17. John de Kirkby, "The survey of the county of York taken by John de Kirkby, commonly called Kirkby's Inquest," also inquisitions of knights' fees, the Nomina villarum for Yorkshire, and an appendix of illustrative documents, Durham: Pub. for the Society by Andrews and Co., 1867.
18. "Access to Archives," http://www.a2a.pro.gov.uk/
19. A. Gooder, Ph.D., "The Parliamentary Representation of the County of York, 1258-1832, Vol. I," The Yorkshire Archaeological Society, Record Series, Vol. XCI (1935), Wakefield: Printed for the Society, 1935.
20. G. H. R. Kent, ed., "A History of the County of York, East Riding," Oxford: published for the Institute of Historical Research, Oxford Univ. Press, 2002, Vol. VII, online available, courtesy British History Online, URL: http://www.british-history.ac.uk/report.asp?compid=16147
21. George Poulson, Esq., "The History and Antiquities of the Seigniory of Holderness," Hull: Thomas Topping, and W. Pickering, 1840 (Vol I) 1841 (Vol II), pp. 197-198, pedigree of Hilton of Swine.
22. Frederick L. Weis, Th. D., "The Magna Carta Sureties, 1215," Baltimore: Gen Pub Co., 5th ed., 1997 (W. L. Sheppard Jr & David Faris).2

; 1.2.3.3.2.2 Christian de Vipont[21]
Spouse: Thomas de Greystoke
Birth: aft 1202
Death: 1247[21],[15]
Father: William fitz Ranulf (-1209)
Mother: Hawise de Stuteville (-1228)

Children: Joan
Robert (-1254)
William (ca1242-1289)
Ravilious cites:
15. I. J. Sanders, "English Baronies: A Study of Their Origin and
Descent, 1086-1327," Oxford: Clarendon Press, 1960.
21. Alan B. Wilson, "Lords of Greystoke," Apr 10, 1999,
GEN-MEDIEVAL-L@rootsweb.com sources cited incl. CP, Early
Yorkshire Families (Clay) and English Baronies (Sanders).1

Family

Christian de Vipont
Children

Citations

  1. [S1838] John P. Ravilious, "Ravilious email #1 23 Nov 2004 "Re: Morville - Stuteville question"," e-mail message from e-mail address (unknown address) to e-mail address, 23 Nov 2004. Hereinafter cited as "Ravilious email #1 23 Nov 2004."
  2. [S2092] John P. Ravilious, "Ravilious email 30 Aug 2006: "Re: CP Addition: Elizabeth, wife of Roger de Lascelles, Lord Lascelles"," e-mail message from e-mail address (unknown address) to e-mail address, 30 Aug 2006. Hereinafter cited as "Ravilious email 30 Aug 2006."
  3. [S1490] Genealogics Website (oiginated by Leo van de Pas, continued by Ian Fettes), online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Hawise|Helwise de Stuteville: https://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00470447&tree=LEO. Hereinafter cited as Genealogics Website.

Simon de Morville1

M, #67708, d. 1167
FatherHugh de Morville2
ReferenceGAV25
Last Edited1 Jul 2006
     Simon de Morville married Ada Engaine, daughter of William Engaine of Burgh by Sands, and Idsell, Cumbs. and Eustacie (?); her 1st husband.3
Simon de Morville died in 1167; Ravilious cites:
1. I. J. Sanders, "English Baronies: A Study of Their Origin and
Descent, 1086-1327," Oxford: Clarendon Press, 1960.3
     GAV-25.

; van de Pas cites CP IX 399.1

Family

Ada Engaine
Child

Citations

  1. [S1839] Leo van de Pas, "van de Pas email 23 Nov 2004 "Morville - Stuteville question"," e-mail message from e-mail address (unknown address) to e-mail address, 23 Nov 2004. Hereinafter cited as "van de Pas email 23 Nov 2004."
  2. [S1490] Genealogics Website (oiginated by Leo van de Pas, continued by Ian Fettes), online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Hugh de Moreville: http://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00196927&tree=LEO. Hereinafter cited as Genealogics Website.
  3. [S1840] John P. Ravilious, "Ravilious email #2 23 Nov 2004 "Re: Morville - Stuteville question"," e-mail message from e-mail address (unknown address) to e-mail address, 23 Nov 2004. Hereinafter cited as "Ravilious email #2 23 Nov 2004."
  4. [S1490] Genealogics Website, online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Hugh de Moreville: http://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00196923&tree=LEO

Ada Engaine1

F, #67709
FatherWilliam Engaine of Burgh by Sands, and Idsell, Cumbs.2 d. b 1158
MotherEustacie (?)2
ReferenceGAV25
Last Edited1 Jul 2006
     Ada Engaine married Simon de Morville, son of Hugh de Morville; her 1st husband.2 Ada Engaine married Robert de Vaux; her 2nd husband.2
     GAV-25.

; Ada Engaine*[2] made a gift of Harescow(Haresceugh) in Kirkoswald to Lanercost priory[3]

she m. lstly Simon de Morville,
2ndly Robert de Vaux

Spouse: Simon de Morville
Death: 1167[1]

Children: Hugh (-1202)

Ravilious cites:
1. I. J. Sanders, "English Baronies: A Study of Their Origin and
Descent, 1086-1327," Oxford: Clarendon Press, 1960.
2. G. E. Cokayne, "The Complete Peerage," 1910 -
The Complete Peerage of England Scotland Ireland Great Britain
and the United Kingdom.2

Family 1

Robert de Vaux

Family 2

Simon de Morville d. 1167
Child

Citations

  1. [S1839] Leo van de Pas, "van de Pas email 23 Nov 2004 "Morville - Stuteville question"," e-mail message from e-mail address (unknown address) to e-mail address, 23 Nov 2004. Hereinafter cited as "van de Pas email 23 Nov 2004."
  2. [S1840] John P. Ravilious, "Ravilious email #2 23 Nov 2004 "Re: Morville - Stuteville question"," e-mail message from e-mail address (unknown address) to e-mail address, 23 Nov 2004. Hereinafter cited as "Ravilious email #2 23 Nov 2004."
  3. [S1490] Genealogics Website (oiginated by Leo van de Pas, continued by Ian Fettes), online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Hugh de Moreville: http://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00196923&tree=LEO. Hereinafter cited as Genealogics Website.

Sir Michael de Poynings1

M, #67710, d. 24 June 1314
FatherSir Luke de Poynings3,4 b. b 1252, d. b 8 Jun 1294
MotherHawise (?)2,3 d. b 24 Oct 1299
ReferenceGAV23
Last Edited30 Aug 2019
     Sir Michael de Poynings married Margery Bardolf, daughter of Hugh Bardolf 1st Lord Bardolf of Wormegay and Isabel Aguillon Lady of Perching, before 8 June 1298.1,5
Sir Michael de Poynings died on 24 June 1314 at Battle of Bannockburn, Bannockburn, Scotland.1
     Reference: Leo van de Pas cites: The Complete Peerage, 1936 , Doubleday, H.A. & Lord Howard de Walden, Reference: X 659.1