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     Payen (?) de Châteaudun died in 1190; ou peu après.¹
     He was living in 1163.¹

     Isbert (?) de Châteaudun was living in 1134.¹

     Mathieu de Montmirail seigneur de Montmirail, d'Oisy, vicomte de Meaux, châtelain de Cambrai married Isabelle dite «La Chambellane» de Villebéon Dame de la Chapelle-Gautier-en-Brie, daughter of Adam II de Villebéon Seigneur de Mesnil-Aubri and Alix de Garlande,
; her 1st hsuband.^1,2
Mathieu de Montmirail seigneur de Montmirail, d'Oisy, vicomte de Meaux, châtelain de Cambrai died before 1263; Date is date of her 2nd marriage.¹

     Guillaume 1 er «Le Grand» de Craon vicomte de Châteaudun, seigneur de La Ferté-Bernard was born after 15 April 1318.^2,3 He married Maruerite de Dampierre-Flandres vicomtesse de Châteaudun, dame de Crèvecoeur, daughter of Jean de Dampierre-Flandres Seigneur de Mondoubleau et Crevecoeur et d'Aleux and Beatrix de Châtillon-sur-Marne, circa 3 May 1341.^1,2,3

Guillaume 1 er «Le Grand» de Craon vicomte de Châteaudun, seigneur de La Ferté-Bernard died on 8 June 1387 at Châteaudun, France (now).^1,2,3
     He was Chambellan du Roi.³

     Maruerite de Dampierre-Flandres vicomtesse de Châteaudun, dame de Crèvecoeur married Guillaume 1 er «Le Grand» de Craon vicomte de Châteaudun, seigneur de La Ferté-Bernard, son of Amauri III de Craon seigneur de Craon, Sablé, Sainte-Maure, sénéchal héréditaire d’Anjou, d’Aquitaine and Beatrix de Roucy-Pierrepont Dame de la Suze-au-Maine, dame de Roucy, Rochefort et des Essarts-Le-Roi, circa 3 May 1341.^1,3,2

Maruerite de Dampierre-Flandres vicomtesse de Châteaudun, dame de Crèvecoeur died after 3 July 1387.²

     Fulcufe de Preuilly seigneur du Lion et de Mauléon was born circa 905.¹
Fulcufe de Preuilly seigneur du Lion et de Mauléon died after 962.¹
     GAV-30.

     Aton de Preuilly seigneur de Preuilly married Emma (Sininna) (?)¹
Aton de Preuilly seigneur de Preuilly was born circa 860.¹
Aton de Preuilly seigneur de Preuilly died after 885.¹
     GAV-31.

     Emma (Sininna) (?) married Aton de Preuilly seigneur de Preuilly.¹

     GAV-31.

     Gisèle (?) de Cambrai married Hervé de Châtillon Vidame de Reims, seigneur de Châtillon, son of Eudes (?) seigneur de Châtillon.¹

     Avenelle de Montfort married Milon de Châtillon Seigneur de Châtillon et de Bazoches, son of Hervé de Châtillon Vidame de Reims, seigneur de Châtillon and Gisèle (?) de Cambrai.¹
Avenelle de Montfort was born circa 988.¹
Avenelle de Montfort died circa 1031.¹
     EDV-29.

     Ursus (?) de Champagne, seigneur de Châtillon married Berthe d'Ostrevant, daughter of NN d'Ostrevant.^1,2
Ursus (?) de Champagne, seigneur de Châtillon was born circa 880.¹
     EDV-32.

; Per Med Lands: "[BERTHE] . Flodoard names "domnus Heriveus" as "nepos ex sorore Hucbaldi comitis" when recording his appointment as Archbishop of Reims[1552]. Colwener’s Catalogue des Archevesques de Rheims names “Heriveus canonis Remensis filius Ursi comitis Campaniæ et Bertæ sororis Hucbaldi comitis” when recording his ecclesiastical career, but does not specify the primary source on which Hérivé’s stated parentage is based[1553]. m [URSON Comte en Champagne, son of ---.]"
Med lands cites:

     EDV-29.

     Gervais de Châtillon married Basilie de Damery.¹

     Gaucher I de Nanteuil de Châtillon seigneur de Nanteuil-La-Fosse, Autrèches, Suippes, Faverolles et Trélon married Helvide de Nanteuil dame de Nanteuil-La-Fosse, Faverolles et Trélon.^1,2

Gaucher I de Nanteuil de Châtillon seigneur de Nanteuil-La-Fosse, Autrèches, Suippes, Faverolles et Trélon died between 1188 and 1190.^1,2
     Reference: Genealogics cites: Europäische Stammtafeln, J.A. Stargardt Verlag, Marburg, Schwennicke, Detlev (Ed.) 7:17, 23.²

     Helvide de Nanteuil dame de Nanteuil-La-Fosse, Faverolles et Trélon married Gaucher I de Nanteuil de Châtillon seigneur de Nanteuil-La-Fosse, Autrèches, Suippes, Faverolles et Trélon, son of Gaucher II de Châtillon Seigneur de Châtillon, Croissy et Montjay and Ada de Roucy dame de Pierrefonds.^1,2

Helvide de Nanteuil dame de Nanteuil-La-Fosse, Faverolles et Trélon died in November 1204.¹

     Adèle de Montmorency married Guy II de Châtillon seigneur de Châtillon-sur-Marne, Troissy, Montjay, Vassen et Crécy, son of Gaucher II de Châtillon Seigneur de Châtillon, Croissy et Montjay and Ada de Roucy dame de Pierrefonds,
; his 1st wife.¹
      ; per Racines et Histoire: "fille de Mathieu 1 er, seigneur de Montmorency.)¹"

     Gui de Châtillon seigneur de Montjay died in 1191.¹

     Marie de Châtillon married Renaud I (?) comte de Boulogne de Dammartin, d’Aumale et de Mortain, son of AlbericAubrey II (?) Count of Dammartin and Matilda (Maud) de Clermont-en-Beauvais de Ponthieu & Dammartin,
; her 1st husband.¹ Marie de Châtillon married Jean III (?) comte de Vendôme, son of Geoffroi (?) de Vendôme,
; Her 2nd husband.²

     Bouchard IV dit «de Lavardin» (?) comte de Vendôme married Agathe (?)¹

Bouchard IV dit «de Lavardin» (?) comte de Vendôme died in 1202.¹

     Agathe (?) married Bouchard IV dit «de Lavardin» (?) comte de Vendôme, son of Jean I (?) comte de Vendôme and Richilde de Lavardin dame de Lavardin.¹

Agathe (?) died before 1180.¹

     Jean III (?) comte de Vendôme married Marie de Châtillon, daughter of Guy II de Châtillon seigneur de Châtillon-sur-Marne, Troissy, Montjay, Vassen et Crécy,
; Her 2nd husband.¹
Jean III (?) comte de Vendôme died in 1217.¹

     Amicie de Breteuil Dame de Catheux et de Breteuil married Jean Briard Seigneur de Villiers
;
Her 2nd husband.⁷ Amicie de Breteuil Dame de Catheux et de Breteuil married Baudouin du Donjon, son of Gui du Donjon, circa 1180
;
Her 1st husband. Racines et Histoire (Chatillon) says m. 1185; Genealogics says m. ca 1180.^2,1,8 Amicie de Breteuil Dame de Catheux et de Breteuil married Gautier de eynel before August 1225
;
Her 3rd husband.⁹
Amicie de Breteuil Dame de Catheux et de Breteuil died between September 1226 and October 1226.¹
     Reference: Genealogics cites: Europäische Stammtafeln, J.A. Stargardt Verlag, Marburg, Schwennicke, Detlev (Ed.) 3/4:659.¹

     Baudouin du Donjon married Amicie de Breteuil Dame de Catheux et de Breteuil, daughter of Galeran (Waleran/Valeran) III de Breteuil seigneur de Breteuil and Adèle/Alix de Dreux Dame de Montjay, circa 1180
;
Her 1st husband. Racines et Histoire (Chatillon) says m. 1185; Genealogics says m. ca 1180.^2,3,4
Baudouin du Donjon died between 22 January 1205 and 1206.⁴
     Reference: Genealogics cites: Europäische Stammtafeln, J.A. Stargardt Verlag, Marburg, Schwennicke, Detlev (Ed.) 3/4:659.⁴

     Joan le Despenser married Sir James Roos Knt., of Gedney, Lincolnshire.¹

      ; per Ravilious: "Monday, 3 November, 2008, Hello All,

John Watson had brought to our attention that online access was available to Gibbons' Early Lincoln Wills. One particular will that only now caught my attention is that of Sir Philip le Despenser of Goxhill (d. 1401), dated 1 August 1401, which provides (in part) the following details:

" - To be buried in the Church of St. Marcial de Newhous, between my mother and my wife Elizabeth
- My sons Philip, John and Robert.
....
- To my sister Lady de Lutterell
...
- Executors: my son James Roos, John de la Laund, Henry Cusas vicar of Gouxhill, and John Burdet and Ralph de Gouxhill my chaplains.
- Supervisor: my son John le Despenser. "[1]

The reference to James Roos as 'my son' is rather striking. This would appear to be James, younger son (and eventual heir) of Sir James de Roos of Gedney (d. 1362) and his wife Maud de Bernake. There are two reasonable explanations for James Roos the younger being styled son by Sir Philip le Despenser: either James' mother had married Sir Philip (i.e. Philip was his step- father), or James' wife Joan, surname unknown, was a daughter of Sir Philip [2].

Given the facts as known concerning Maud de Bernake, especially as to her marriage to Sir James de Ros (d. 30 Sept 1362) in 1323 or before, she would not be a good candidate as the mother of one or more of the issue of Philip le Despenser. It therefore appears that Joan, wife of James de Roos, was in fact a daughter of Sir Philip le Despenser and his wife Elizabeth (surname unknown), and the namesake of her paternal grandmother, Joan de Cobham:


Sir Philip le = Joan de Cobham
Despenser I
(d. 1349) I
I
Sir Philip le = Elizabeth
Despenser I
(d. 1401) I
_____________________I__
I I I I
Sir Philip John Robert Joan = Sir James
Despenser I Roos
(d. 1424) I (d. ca.
I 1402)
I
Sir Robert Roos
of Gedney

This would then add another link in the ancestry of Prince William, the (Paulet) Marquess of Winchester and Dukes of Bolton, the (Cromwell) Earls of Ardglass, and of emigrants Thomas Booth, William Goddard and Thomas Wingfield, among many others.

NOTES

[1] Alfred Gibbons, Early Lincoln Wills, p. 99.

[2] Joan's parentage has not been noted to date, according to both Doug Richardson, Magna Carta Ancestry (p. 367) and Leo van de Pas' website, Genealogics, found at http://www.genealogics.org.¹