unknown (?)1

M, #58591
FatherAlain II "le Barbetorte" de Poher Cte de Vannes et de Nantes, Duc de Bretagne1 b. 910, d. 952
MotherRoscille (?) d'Anjou1
Last Edited17 Aug 2003
     Unknown (?) died; died young.1

Citations

  1. [S1438] Miroslav Marek, online http://genealogy.euweb.cz/index.html, unknown author (e-mail address), downloaded updated 15 May 2003, Bretagne 2 page: http://genealogy.euweb.cz/bretagne/bretagne2.html

Mathuédoï/Matuedo/Malhuedoc I (?) Comte de Poher1,2

M, #58592, d. before 936
ReferenceGAV31
Last Edited27 Aug 2020
     Mathuédoï/Matuedo/Malhuedoc I (?) Comte de Poher married NN (?) de Bretagne, daughter of Alain I "le Grand" (?) Duc de Bretagne and Oreguen (?), before 907.1,2,3,4,5

Mathuédoï/Matuedo/Malhuedoc I (?) Comte de Poher died before 936 at England (now); Wikipedia (Fr.) says that Mathuedoï was exiled aft 924. He was welcomed by Aethelstan, King of England, and never left England after that.6
     Reference: Genealogics cites: Europäische Stammtafeln, J.A. Stargardt Verlag, Marburg, Schwennicke, Detlev (Ed.) 3:neu75.3

; Per Wikipedia:
     "Mathuedoï I (circa 875 - 930) was a Count of Poher. He was the son-in-law of Alan I, King of Brittany, known as Alan the Great through his marriage to Hawise of Vannes. at an unknown age He obtained his countship at Alan's death circa 907. He is listed in several ecclesiastical records at Redon Abbey.[1]
Life
     "At Alan I's death the rule of Brittany became fractured even as the region faced Viking invasions. Mathuedoï and his cousin Gourmaelon, the Count of Cornouailles, stood in line to succeed Alan I as ruler of Brittany. Mathuedoï renounced his claim as Viking invasions of Brittany increased. Subsequent to the invasion of the Loire Viking fleet led by Rognvaldr, he exiled himself and his son Alan to England in 924.[2]
     "According to the Chronicle of Nantes:
     "Fugit autem tunc temporis Mathuedoi, comes de Poher, ad regem Anglorum Adelstanum cum ingenti multitudine Britonum, ducens secum filium suum, nomine Alanum, qui postea cognominatus est Barbatorta, quem Alanum ex filia Alani Magni, Britonum ducis, genuerat, et quem ipse rex Angliae Adelstannus jam prius ex lavaero sancto susceperat. Ipse rex pro familiaritate et amicitia hujus regenerationis magnam in eo fidem habebat. (Chronicle of Nantes, chapter 27)
     ""... Among the nobles who fled for fear for the Danes, Mathuedoi, the count of Poher, put to sea with a great multitude of Bretons, and went to Athelstan, king of the English, taking with him his son, called Alan, who was afterwards surnamed "Crooked Beard". He had had this Alan by the daughter of Alan the Great, duke of the Bretons, and the same Athelstan, king of England, had lifted him from the holy font. This king had great trust in him because of this friendship and the alliance of this baptism."[3]

     "While Mathuedoï would remain in England, his son Alan returned to Brittany about 12 years later, and with Athelstan's assistance would expel the Vikings.
Notes
a. His mother Orequen is understood to have married Alain de Poher but the written histories to support this claim are sparse.
References
1. Cartulaire de Redon chartes CCLXXV & CCLXXVI du 25 octobre 913
2. Chronicle of Nantes, chapter 27, ed. Merlet; p. 82. According to the Chronicle, Æthelstan was already King when Mathuedoi fled to England.
3. Chronicle of Nantes, chapter 27, ed. Merlet; tr. D. Whitelock, English Historical Documents c. 500–1042. 2nd ed. London, 1979. p. 345.
Bibliography
** Price, Neil S. (1989). The Vikings of Brittany. Saga-Book XXII 6. ISBN 978 0 903521 22 2.
Other reading
** André Chédeville & Hubert Guillotel La Bretagne des saints et des rois Ve-Xe siècle. Éditions Ouest France (1984) ISBN 2858826137."7

; Per Wikipedia (Fr.):
     "Mathuedoi (mort avant 936) est comte de Poher au début du xe siècle.
     "Marié à une des filles d'Alain Ier de Bretagne, Mathuedoi est mêlé aux dissensions nées à la mort de ce dernier. Gourmaëlon de Cornouaille profite de la situation pour se faire reconnaître comme souverain de Bretagne. C'est un dirigeant sans autorité qui laisse le royaume tomber en déliquescence pendant que les Vikings profitent de la situation pour ravager le pays.
     "Le comte Mathuedoï intervient dans plusieurs chartes du Cartulaire de Redon1. Après 924, il est contraint à l'exil avec armes, bagages et famille. Il est accueilli par le roi anglais Æthelstan, et ne quitte plus l'Angleterre2.
     "Le même Æthelstan aide une dizaine d'années plus tard son filleul Alain Barbetorte, le fils de Mathuedoi, dans la reconquête de son trône, qui ne sera d'ailleurs plus que ducal et non royal, après avoir bouté les Normands hors de Bretagne3.
Notes
1. Cartulaire de Redon chartes CCLXXV & CCLXXVI du 25 octobre 913
2. René Merlet (éd.) Chronique de Nantes (1896) p. 82
3. Selon Hubert Guillotel cette restauration serait intervenue avec celle de Louis IV d'Outremer dans le cadre d'une négociation globale incluant, Guillaume Longue-Épée, Hugues le Grand et Herbert II de Vermandois.
Sources
** André Chédeville & Hubert Guillotel La Bretagne des saints et des rois Ve-Xe siècle Éditions Ouest-France (1984) (ISBN 2858826137.)8 " GAV-31 EDV-30 GKJ-31.

; According to The Henry Project: "Mathuédoï, count of Poher. [Chr. Nantes; Poupardin (1900), 306]
Mathédoï led a group of Bretons into exile in England when Vikings overran Brittany soon after the death of Alain le Grand. Mathédoï's son Alain Barbetorte (d. 952) was the leader of the returning exiles who eventually took Brittany back from the Vikings."
Cart. Redon = M. Aurélien de Courson, Cartulaire de l'Abaaye de Redon (Collection de documents inédites sur l'histoire de France, Paris, 1863).
Chr. Nantes = René Merlet, ed., La Chronique de Nantes (Paris, 1895). [Pages numbers alone are citations to the text, page numbers with footnotes indicating comments by Merlet.]
Poupardin (1900) = René Poupardin, "Généalogies angevines du XIe siècle", Mélanges d'Archéologie et d'Histoire (Paris, Rome) 20 (1900):199-208. I would like to thank James Hansen, FASG, for providing me with a copy of this article, and Nathaniel Taylor for providing a copy of the manuscript page itself (Bib. Apost. Vat., Reg. Lat. 1285, f. 65v).9

; Per Med Lands:
     "MATHEDOI [Matuedo], son of --- (-936). Comte de Poher. It appears that, after the death of Alain I Duke of Brittany in 907, power in Brittany was shared between the counts of Poher (Alain’s son-in-law), Vannes (Alain’s possible eldest son) and Cornouaïlle and that none of these was acknowledged as overall ruler. "Matuedoi comes" confirmed a donation of property "quod rex Alanus antea atque Euuen nepos eius Sancte Mariæ Bilique episcopo in monacho sempiterno dederat" to the abbey of Redon by charter dated 25 Oct 913[845]. He fled to England after the Danes invaded Brittany in 919: the Chronicle of Nantes records that "Mathuedoi comes de Poher" fled "ad regem Anglorum Adelstanum" with "filium suum…Alanum"[846].
     "m --- de Bretagne, daughter of ALAIN I "le Grand" Duke of Brittany & his wife Oreguen --- . The Chronicle of Nantes records that the mother of "filium suum [Mathuedoi]…Alanum" was "filia Alani Magni Britonum ducis"[847]."
Med Lands cites:
[846] Chronique de Nantes XXVII, p. 82.
[847] Chronique de Nantes XXVII, p. 83.4

Citations

  1. [S1438] Miroslav Marek, online http://genealogy.euweb.cz/index.html, unknown author (e-mail address), downloaded updated 15 May 2003, Bretagne 2 page: http://genealogy.euweb.cz/bretagne/bretagne2.html
  2. [S1702] The Henry Project: The ancestors of king Henry II of England, An experiment in cooperative medieval genealogy on the internet (now hosted by the American Society of Genealogists, ASG), online https://fasg.org/projects/henryproject/, http://sbaldw.home.mindspring.com/hproject/prov/alain000.htm. Hereinafter cited as The Henry Project.
  3. [S1490] Genealogics Website (oiginated by Leo van de Pas, continued by Ian Fettes), online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Matuedoi: https://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00139576&tree=LEO. Hereinafter cited as Genealogics Website.
  4. [S2203] Foundation for Medieval Genealogy (FMG): MEDIEVAL LANDS - A prosopography of medieval European noble and royal families, online http://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/index.htm, https://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/brittcope.htm#MathedoiIPoherdied936B. Hereinafter cited as FMG Medieval Lands Website.
  5. [S1490] Genealogics Website, online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, NN de Bretagne: https://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00139577&tree=LEO
  6. [S4742] Wikipédia - L'encyclopédie libre, online https://fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikip%C3%A9dia:Accueil_principal, Mathuedoï de Poher: https://fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mathuedo%C3%AF_de_Poher. Hereinafter cited as Wikipédia (FR).
  7. [S1953] Wikipedia: The Free Encyclopedia, online http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Main_Page, https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mathuedo%C3%AF_I,_Count_of_Poher. Hereinafter cited as Wikipedia.
  8. [S4742] Wikipédia (FR), online https://fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikip%C3%A9dia:Accueil_principal, https://fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mathuedo%C3%AF_de_Poher
  9. [S1702] The Henry Project, online https://fasg.org/projects/henryproject/, Alain I "le Grand": https://fasg.org/projects/henryproject/data/alain000.htm
  10. [S1490] Genealogics Website, online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Alain II 'le Barbetorte': https://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00020240&tree=LEO

NN (?) de Bretagne1,2

F, #58593
FatherAlain I "le Grand" (?) Duc de Bretagne1,3,4,5,6,7 b. c 840, d. 907
MotherOreguen (?)8,4,5,6
ReferenceGAV30 EDV30
Last Edited27 Aug 2020
     NN (?) de Bretagne married Mathuédoï/Matuedo/Malhuedoc I (?) Comte de Poher before 907.1,9,2,10,5

      ; Per Med Lands:
     "MATHEDOI [Matuedo], son of --- (-936). Comte de Poher. It appears that, after the death of Alain I Duke of Brittany in 907, power in Brittany was shared between the counts of Poher (Alain’s son-in-law), Vannes (Alain’s possible eldest son) and Cornouaïlle and that none of these was acknowledged as overall ruler. "Matuedoi comes" confirmed a donation of property "quod rex Alanus antea atque Euuen nepos eius Sancte Mariæ Bilique episcopo in monacho sempiterno dederat" to the abbey of Redon by charter dated 25 Oct 913[845]. He fled to England after the Danes invaded Brittany in 919: the Chronicle of Nantes records that "Mathuedoi comes de Poher" fled "ad regem Anglorum Adelstanum" with "filium suum…Alanum"[846].
     "m --- de Bretagne, daughter of ALAIN I "le Grand" Duke of Brittany & his wife Oreguen --- . The Chronicle of Nantes records that the mother of "filium suum [Mathuedoi]…Alanum" was "filia Alani Magni Britonum ducis"[847]."
Med Lands cites:
[846] Chronique de Nantes XXVII, p. 82.
[847] Chronique de Nantes XXVII, p. 83.10


; Per Med Lands:
     "daughter. The Chronicle of Nantes records that the mother of "filium suum [Mathuedoi]…Alanum" was "filia Alani Magni Britonum ducis"[82].
     "m MATHEDOI [Matuedo] Comte de Poher, son of --- (-936)."
Med Lands cites: [82] Chronique de Nantes XXVII, p. 83.4

Reference: Genealogics cites: Europäische Stammtafeln, J.A. Stargardt Verlag, Marburg, Schwennicke, Detlev (Ed.) 3/1:neu75.5 GAV-30 EDV-30 GKJ-31.

Citations

  1. [S1438] Miroslav Marek, online http://genealogy.euweb.cz/index.html, unknown author (e-mail address), downloaded updated 15 May 2003, Bretagne 2 page: http://genealogy.euweb.cz/bretagne/bretagne2.html
  2. [S1490] Genealogics Website (oiginated by Leo van de Pas, continued by Ian Fettes), online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Matuedoi: https://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00139576&tree=LEO. Hereinafter cited as Genealogics Website.
  3. [S1490] Genealogics Website, online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Alain I 'le Grand': https://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00139574&tree=LEO
  4. [S2203] Foundation for Medieval Genealogy (FMG): MEDIEVAL LANDS - A prosopography of medieval European noble and royal families, online http://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/index.htm, https://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/BRITTANY.htm#DaughterAlainIMMatuedoIPoher. Hereinafter cited as FMG Medieval Lands Website.
  5. [S1490] Genealogics Website, online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, NN de Bretagne: https://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00139577&tree=LEO
  6. [S2203] FMG Medieval Lands Website, online http://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/index.htm, http://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/BRITTANY.htm#PasquitanVannesBretagneMDaughterSalomon
  7. [S1702] The Henry Project: The ancestors of king Henry II of England, An experiment in cooperative medieval genealogy on the internet (now hosted by the American Society of Genealogists, ASG), online https://fasg.org/projects/henryproject/, Alain I "le Grand": https://fasg.org/projects/henryproject/data/alain000.htm. Hereinafter cited as The Henry Project.
  8. [S1490] Genealogics Website, online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Oreguen: https://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00139575&tree=LEO
  9. [S1702] The Henry Project, online https://fasg.org/projects/henryproject/, http://sbaldw.home.mindspring.com/hproject/prov/alain000.htm
  10. [S2203] FMG Medieval Lands Website, online http://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/index.htm, https://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/brittcope.htm#MathedoiIPoherdied936B
  11. [S1490] Genealogics Website, online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Alain II 'le Barbetorte': https://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00020240&tree=LEO

Alain I "le Grand" (?) Duc de Bretagne1,2

M, #58594, b. circa 840, d. 907
FatherRidoredh (?) Cte de Vannes; per The Henry Project: "The name of Alain's father is given only by an eleventh century Angevin document [Poupardin (1900), 206],which states that he was illegitimate son of an otherwise unidentified Ridoredh, and brother of Pascweten. The fact that Alain was a brother of Pascweten is confirmed by contemporary sources [e.g., Regino, MGH SS1: 587, quoted above; Cart. Redon, 186]."
Cart. Redon = M. Aurélien de Courson, Cartulaire de l'Abaaye de Redon (Collection de documents inédites sur l'histoire de France, Paris, 1863).1,3,2,4
ReferenceGAV30
Last Edited27 Aug 2020
     Alain I "le Grand" (?) Duc de Bretagne married Oreguen (?), daughter of Gurwent/Gurvand (?) Duc de Bretagne and NN (?) de Bretagne,
;
His 1st wife.1,3,5,2 Alain I "le Grand" (?) Duc de Bretagne married Unknown (?)
;
His 2nd? wife.5 Alain I "le Grand" (?) Duc de Bretagne was born circa 840.3
Alain I "le Grand" (?) Duc de Bretagne died in 907.1,5
      ; This is the same person as ”Alain I "le Grand"” at The Henry Project.2

; This is the same person as ”Alan I, King of Brittany” at Wikipedia and as ”Alain Ier de Bretagne” at Wikipédia (FR).6,7

Reference: Genealogics cites: Europäische Stammtafeln, J.A. Stargardt Verlag, Marburg, Schwennicke, Detlev (Ed.) 3:neu75.3

; Per Genealogics:
     "Alain, called 'the Great', was the count of Vannes and duke of Brittany _(dux Brittonium)_ from 876 until his death. He was probably the only king of Brittany _(rex Brittaniae)_ to hold that title by legitimate grant of the emperor.
     "Alain was the second son of Ridoredh, count of Vannes. He succeeded his brother Paseweten in Vannes and Brittany when the latter died, probably in the middle of 876. He represented the power block of southeastern Brittany and had to fight, initially, against Judicael of Poher, representative of western Breton interests, for the ducal throne. Eventually he and Judicael made peace in order to fight the Vikings, Judicael died in the Battle of Questembert in 888 or 889. Alain defeated the Vikings at Saint-Lô, chasing them into a river where many drowned.
     "After the death of Judicael, Alain ruled all of Brittany as it had been during the time of Salomon, king of Brittany until his assassination in 874 by conspirators including his son-in-law, Alain's brother Paseweten. Alain ruled not only the Breton territories of Léon, Dommonée, Cornouaille and the Vannetais, but also the Frankish counties of Rennes, Nantes, Coutances, and Avranches, as well as the western parts of Poitou (the so-called pays de Retz) and Anjou. In the east his rule extended as far as the river Vire. He was the first Breton ruler to rule this entire territory without great opposition within the west and the last to rule the whole bloc of Franco-Celtic countries. His strongest opponent was Foulques I, comte d'Anjou, who disputed control of the Nantais with him, though Alain seems to have had the upper hand in his lifetime. His power base remained in the southeast and he was powerful and wealthy in land around Vannes and Nantes.
     "According to the _Anglo-Saxon Chronicle,_ after the death of Carloman II in 884, Charles 'the Fat' succeeded to all of West Francia save Brittany, thus making Brittany an independent kingdom; but this does not seem to have been true. A charter datable to between 897 and 900 makes reference to the soul of Karolus on whose behalf Alain had ordered prayers to be said in the monastery of Redon. This was probably Charles 'the Fat', who as emperor, probably granted Alain the right to be titled _rex._ As emperor he would have had that prerogative and he is known to have had contacts with Nantes in 886, making it not improbable that he came into communication with Alain. Charles also made a concerted effort to rule effectively in the entirety of his empire and to make former enemies, with dubious ties to the empire, like the Viking Godfrid, men of standing, in return for their loyalty. Throughout his reign, Alain used Carolingian symbols of regalia and Carolingian forms in his charters.
     "Alain augmented his power during the weak reigns of Eudes and Charles III 'the Simple'. He died in 907 and Brittany was overrun by Vikings, who held the region until 936, when Alain's grandson Alain II 'le Barbetorte' succeeded in reestablishing Christian rule, but Brittany was never thenceforth as extended as in Alain's time an no future Breton rulers were called kings.
     "By his wife Oreguen, Alain had three sons, of whom Paseweten is recorded with progeny, and two unnamed daughters, of whom one would have progeny, marrying Matuedoi, comte de Poher. They were the parents of Alain II."3 GAV-30 EDV-31 GKJ-32.

; Per Med Lands:
     "ALAIN (-907). Regino records that "Alanus frater Pasquitani" succeeded his brother, jointly with "Iudicheil, ex filia Herispoii regis natus"[67]. The Annales Mettenses names "Judicheil ex filia Heriospoii regis natus" when recording that he ruled jointly with "Alanus frater Pasquitani"[68]. He succeeded his brother in [876] as ALAIN I "le Grand" joint Duke of Brittany, ruling jointly with Judicaël son of Duke Gurwent. Regino records disputes between "Alanum et Iudicheil duces Brittonium" in 890[69] and, in an earlier passage, that Duke Alain ruled solely after Judicaël died fighting the Vikings[70]. The Anglo-Saxon Chronicle records that the Bretons defeated the Vikings at St Lo in 890 and "drove them into a river and drowned many"[71]. Guillaume of Jumièges records that Charles III "le Simple" King of the West Franks granted "terram maritimam ab Eptæ flumine usque ad Britannicos limites" together with "sua filia...Gisla" to Rollo who renounced his campaigns, that the king added "tota Britannia" and that “ipsius provinciæ principibus Berengerio atque Alanno” swore allegiance to Rollo[72]. The chronology of this passage appears incompatible with the death of Alain in 907. It appears that, after the death of Alain, power in Brittany was shared between the counts of Poher (Alain´s son-in-law), Vannes (Alain´s possible eldest son) and Cornouaïlle, and that none of them was acknowledged as overall ruler. It is likely that this situation persisted until the Viking invasion in 919 as no reference has been found to any overall Breton duke during that time in any of the primary sources so far consulted in the preparation of the present document.
     "m [firstly] OREGUEN, daughter of ---. "Alanus…rex Brittaniæ" donated property "abbatial sancti Sergii in pago Andecavensi" to "Raino Andacavensis episcopus" to "episcopo Adalaldo archiepiscopo simulque Rainoni episcopo, fratri eiusdem" by charter dated [5 Feb 897/26 Nov 903], subscribed by "Orgaim uxoris suæ…Vuereche filii Alani, Pascuiten fratris sui"[73].
     "[m secondly as her first husband, ---. "Tanchi comes…cum…filiolum suum Derian, filium Alani" shared property which they donated to the abbey of Redon by charter dated 27 Nov 910, "Gurmahilon regnante Britanniam"[74]. This charter indicates that Tanguy was closely related to the family of Duke Alain. The use of the word "filiolus" suggests that Derien may have been Tanguy´s stepson. As Duke Alain´s other known children were adult by the late 9th century as shown by the various documents in which they are named, it is unlikely that their mother would have remarried after her husband´s death. The most likely explanation therefore is that Alain remarried after the death of his wife Oreguen, had a son by this second marriage, and that his widow married secondly Tanguy after her first husband died. This would explain the joint holding of property in which the other sons of Duke Alain are not stated to have held any interest.]"
Med Lands cites:
[67] Reginonis Chronicon 874, MGH SS I, p. 587.
[68] Annales Mettenses 874, RHGF, Tome VII, p. 202.
[69] Reginonis Chronicon 890, MGH SS I, p. 602.
[70] Reginonis Chronicon 874, MGH SS I, p. 587.
[71] Anglo-Saxon Chronicle, A and E, pp. 82 and 83.
[72] Willelmi Gemmetencis Historiæ (Duchesne, 1619), Liber II, XVII, p. 230.
[73] Angers Cathedral, 12, p. 29.
[74] Redon CCLXXIX, p. 226.5
He was Comte de Vannes between 876 and 907.2 He was Duc de Bretagne between 888 and 907.1,2

Family 1

Unknown (?)
Child

Citations

  1. [S1438] Miroslav Marek, online http://genealogy.euweb.cz/index.html, unknown author (e-mail address), downloaded updated 15 May 2003, Bretagne 2 page: http://genealogy.euweb.cz/bretagne/bretagne2.html
  2. [S1702] The Henry Project: The ancestors of king Henry II of England, An experiment in cooperative medieval genealogy on the internet (now hosted by the American Society of Genealogists, ASG), online https://fasg.org/projects/henryproject/, Alain I "le Grand": https://fasg.org/projects/henryproject/data/alain000.htm. Hereinafter cited as The Henry Project.
  3. [S1490] Genealogics Website (oiginated by Leo van de Pas, continued by Ian Fettes), online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Alain I 'le Grand': https://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00139574&tree=LEO. Hereinafter cited as Genealogics Website.
  4. [S1702] The Henry Project, online https://fasg.org/projects/henryproject/, Ridoredh: https://fasg.org/projects/henryproject/data/ridor000.htm
  5. [S2203] Foundation for Medieval Genealogy (FMG): MEDIEVAL LANDS - A prosopography of medieval European noble and royal families, online http://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/index.htm, http://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/BRITTANY.htm#PasquitanVannesBretagneMDaughterSalomon. Hereinafter cited as FMG Medieval Lands Website.
  6. [S1953] Wikipedia: The Free Encyclopedia, online http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Main_Page, https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alan_I,_King_of_Brittany. Hereinafter cited as Wikipedia.
  7. [S4742] Wikipédia - L'encyclopédie libre, online https://fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikip%C3%A9dia:Accueil_principal, Alain Ier de Bretagne: https://fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alain_Ier_de_Bretagne. Hereinafter cited as Wikipédia (FR).
  8. [S2203] FMG Medieval Lands Website, online http://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/index.htm, https://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/BRITTANY.htm#DaughterAlainIMMatuedoIPoher
  9. [S1490] Genealogics Website, online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, NN de Bretagne: https://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00139577&tree=LEO
  10. [S1702] The Henry Project, online https://fasg.org/projects/henryproject/, Pascweten: https://fasg.org/projects/henryproject/data/pascw000.htm

Oreguen (?)1

F, #58595
FatherGurwent/Gurvand (?) Duc de Bretagne d. 877; Per Wikipedia (Fr.): "Selon une hypothèse de Joëlle Quaghebeur Oreguen/Aourken une sœur de Judicaël aurait épousé Alain le Grand, comte de Vannes8"
Wikikpedia cites: 8. Joëlle Quaghebeur La Cornouaille du IXe au XIIe siècle PUR Rennes (2002) (ISBN 2 868477437) p. 66-672
MotherNN (?) de Bretagne
ReferenceGAV30
Last Edited27 Aug 2020
     Oreguen (?) married Alain I "le Grand" (?) Duc de Bretagne, son of Ridoredh (?) Cte de Vannes,
;
His 1st wife.1,3,4,5
      ; Per Med Lands:
     "ALAIN (-907). Regino records that "Alanus frater Pasquitani" succeeded his brother, jointly with "Iudicheil, ex filia Herispoii regis natus"[67]. The Annales Mettenses names "Judicheil ex filia Heriospoii regis natus" when recording that he ruled jointly with "Alanus frater Pasquitani"[68]. He succeeded his brother in [876] as ALAIN I "le Grand" joint Duke of Brittany, ruling jointly with Judicaël son of Duke Gurwent. Regino records disputes between "Alanum et Iudicheil duces Brittonium" in 890[69] and, in an earlier passage, that Duke Alain ruled solely after Judicaël died fighting the Vikings[70]. The Anglo-Saxon Chronicle records that the Bretons defeated the Vikings at St Lo in 890 and "drove them into a river and drowned many"[71]. Guillaume of Jumièges records that Charles III "le Simple" King of the West Franks granted "terram maritimam ab Eptæ flumine usque ad Britannicos limites" together with "sua filia...Gisla" to Rollo who renounced his campaigns, that the king added "tota Britannia" and that “ipsius provinciæ principibus Berengerio atque Alanno” swore allegiance to Rollo[72]. The chronology of this passage appears incompatible with the death of Alain in 907. It appears that, after the death of Alain, power in Brittany was shared between the counts of Poher (Alain´s son-in-law), Vannes (Alain´s possible eldest son) and Cornouaïlle, and that none of them was acknowledged as overall ruler. It is likely that this situation persisted until the Viking invasion in 919 as no reference has been found to any overall Breton duke during that time in any of the primary sources so far consulted in the preparation of the present document.
     "m [firstly] OREGUEN, daughter of ---. "Alanus…rex Brittaniæ" donated property "abbatial sancti Sergii in pago Andecavensi" to "Raino Andacavensis episcopus" to "episcopo Adalaldo archiepiscopo simulque Rainoni episcopo, fratri eiusdem" by charter dated [5 Feb 897/26 Nov 903], subscribed by "Orgaim uxoris suæ…Vuereche filii Alani, Pascuiten fratris sui"[73].
     "[m secondly as her first husband, ---. "Tanchi comes…cum…filiolum suum Derian, filium Alani" shared property which they donated to the abbey of Redon by charter dated 27 Nov 910, "Gurmahilon regnante Britanniam"[74]. This charter indicates that Tanguy was closely related to the family of Duke Alain. The use of the word "filiolus" suggests that Derien may have been Tanguy´s stepson. As Duke Alain´s other known children were adult by the late 9th century as shown by the various documents in which they are named, it is unlikely that their mother would have remarried after her husband´s death. The most likely explanation therefore is that Alain remarried after the death of his wife Oreguen, had a son by this second marriage, and that his widow married secondly Tanguy after her first husband died. This would explain the joint holding of property in which the other sons of Duke Alain are not stated to have held any interest.]"
Med Lands cites:
[67] Reginonis Chronicon 874, MGH SS I, p. 587.
[68] Annales Mettenses 874, RHGF, Tome VII, p. 202.
[69] Reginonis Chronicon 890, MGH SS I, p. 602.
[70] Reginonis Chronicon 874, MGH SS I, p. 587.
[71] Anglo-Saxon Chronicle, A and E, pp. 82 and 83.
[72] Willelmi Gemmetencis Historiæ (Duchesne, 1619), Liber II, XVII, p. 230.
[73] Angers Cathedral, 12, p. 29.
[74] Redon CCLXXIX, p. 226.4


; Per Med Lands:
     "m [firstly] OREGUEN, daughter of ---. "Alanus…rex Brittaniæ" donated property "abbatial sancti Sergii in pago Andecavensi" to "Raino Andacavensis episcopus" to "episcopo Adalaldo archiepiscopo simulque Rainoni episcopo, fratri eiusdem" by charter dated [5 Feb 897/26 Nov 903], subscribed by "Orgaim uxoris suæ…Vuereche filii Alani, Pascuiten fratris sui"[73]."
Med Lands cites: [73] Angers Cathedral, 12, p. 29.4

Reference: Genealogics cites: Europäische Stammtafeln, J.A. Stargardt Verlag, Marburg, Schwennicke, Detlev (Ed.) 3:neu75.6 Oreguen (?) was also known as Orgain (?)7 GAV-30.

Family

Alain I "le Grand" (?) Duc de Bretagne b. c 840, d. 907
Children

Citations

  1. [S1438] Miroslav Marek, online http://genealogy.euweb.cz/index.html, unknown author (e-mail address), downloaded updated 15 May 2003, Bretagne 2 page: http://genealogy.euweb.cz/bretagne/bretagne2.html
  2. [S4742] Wikipédia - L'encyclopédie libre, online https://fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikip%C3%A9dia:Accueil_principal, https://fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gurwant. Hereinafter cited as Wikipédia (FR).
  3. [S1490] Genealogics Website (oiginated by Leo van de Pas, continued by Ian Fettes), online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Alain I 'le Grand': https://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00139574&tree=LEO. Hereinafter cited as Genealogics Website.
  4. [S2203] Foundation for Medieval Genealogy (FMG): MEDIEVAL LANDS - A prosopography of medieval European noble and royal families, online http://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/index.htm, http://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/BRITTANY.htm#PasquitanVannesBretagneMDaughterSalomon. Hereinafter cited as FMG Medieval Lands Website.
  5. [S1702] The Henry Project: The ancestors of king Henry II of England, An experiment in cooperative medieval genealogy on the internet (now hosted by the American Society of Genealogists, ASG), online https://fasg.org/projects/henryproject/, Alain I "le Grand": https://fasg.org/projects/henryproject/data/alain000.htm. Hereinafter cited as The Henry Project.
  6. [S1490] Genealogics Website, online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Oreguen: https://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00139575&tree=LEO
  7. [S1702] The Henry Project, online https://fasg.org/projects/henryproject/, http://sbaldw.home.mindspring.com/hproject/prov/alain000.htm
  8. [S2203] FMG Medieval Lands Website, online http://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/index.htm, https://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/BRITTANY.htm#DaughterAlainIMMatuedoIPoher
  9. [S1490] Genealogics Website, online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, NN de Bretagne: https://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00139577&tree=LEO

Paskwitan II (?) de Rennes1,2

M, #58596, d. after 903
FatherAlain I "le Grand" (?) Duc de Bretagne1,6,5,7,2 b. c 840, d. 907
MotherOreguen (?); per The Henry Project: "Orgain's status as the mother of the following four sons appears to be confirmed by the charter quoted in the Chronicle of Nantes [Chr. Nantes, 74-7]."
Chr. Nantes = René Merlet, ed., La Chronique de Nantes (Paris, 1895). [Pages numbers alone are citations to the text, page numbers with footnotes indicating comments by Merlet.]1,3,4,5
ReferenceGAV29
Last Edited27 Aug 2020
     Paskwitan II (?) de Rennes married (?) (?) de Rennes.1

Paskwitan II (?) de Rennes died after 903.1
     ; NB: The father of Judicaël/Juhael de Rennes, father of Conan I "le Tort" Duke of Brittany is unclear. One group of sources (Group 1) put his as the son of Pakwitan II (grandson of Erispoe). Other sources (Group 2) make him the son of a Berenger II of Neustria, son-in-law of Gurvand (m. an unnamed dau of Gurvand).
Group 1
     The Henry Project calls him "Juhel [alias] Bérenger" and says his possible father was Pascweten (fl. 895-903), son of Alain le Grand.
     Genealogics says that he is the sone of "Paseweten", son of Alain le Grand.
     Wikipedia (Fr.) says "Judicaël est un petit-fils d'Erispoë mais le nom de son père n'est pas précisé explicitement dans les sources contemporaines où il est désigné comme « Judicheïl ex filia Herispoii regis natus » " (citing Chronique de Réginon de Prüm: AD 874)
Group 2
     Med Lands says that he is the son of "Berenger", of unknown parentage.
     Wikipedia reports regarding Berengar: "Various reconstructions make him father, grandfather, or great-grandfather of Judicael Berengar, later Count of Rennes"
The Henry Project page has a long discussion of all of the possibilities proposed and essentially argues that the Group 1 lineage is the most likely. I have chosen to follow Group 1 with the attribution of Pasceweten (var. sp.) as his father. GA Vaut.8,9,10,11,12,13 GAV-29.

; This is the same person as ”Pascweten” at the Oxford Dictionary of National Biography.2 Paskwitan II (?) de Rennes was also known as Pascweten (?)14 He was living between 895 and 903.2

Family 1

(?) (?) de Rennes

Family 2

Child
  • Juhel (Judicaël) Bérenger (?) Comte de Rennes+ b. b 931, d. bt 972 - 979; per the Henry Project: "possible father", citing Poupardin (1900), 206. [Poupardin (1900) = René Poupardin, "Généalogies angevines du XIe siècle", Mélanges d'Archéologie et d'Histoire (Paris, Rome) 20 (1900):199-208.]15,2

Citations

  1. [S1438] Miroslav Marek, online http://genealogy.euweb.cz/index.html, unknown author (e-mail address), downloaded updated 15 May 2003, Bretagne 2 page: http://genealogy.euweb.cz/bretagne/bretagne2.html
  2. [S1702] The Henry Project: The ancestors of king Henry II of England, An experiment in cooperative medieval genealogy on the internet (now hosted by the American Society of Genealogists, ASG), online https://fasg.org/projects/henryproject/, Pascweten: https://fasg.org/projects/henryproject/data/pascw000.htm. Hereinafter cited as The Henry Project.
  3. [S1702] The Henry Project, online https://fasg.org/projects/henryproject/, http://sbaldw.home.mindspring.com/hproject/prov/alain000.htm
  4. [S1490] Genealogics Website (oiginated by Leo van de Pas, continued by Ian Fettes), online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Oreguen: https://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00139575&tree=LEO. Hereinafter cited as Genealogics Website.
  5. [S2203] Foundation for Medieval Genealogy (FMG): MEDIEVAL LANDS - A prosopography of medieval European noble and royal families, online http://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/index.htm, http://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/BRITTANY.htm#PasquitanVannesBretagneMDaughterSalomon. Hereinafter cited as FMG Medieval Lands Website.
  6. [S1490] Genealogics Website, online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Alain I 'le Grand': https://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00139574&tree=LEO
  7. [S1702] The Henry Project, online https://fasg.org/projects/henryproject/, Alain I "le Grand": https://fasg.org/projects/henryproject/data/alain000.htm
  8. [S1702] The Henry Project, online https://fasg.org/projects/henryproject/, Juhel [alias] Bérenger: http://sbaldw.home.mindspring.com/hproject/prov/juhel000.htm
  9. [S1490] Genealogics Website, online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Judicael Berengar: https://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00139571&tree=LEO
  10. [S4742] Wikipédia - L'encyclopédie libre, online https://fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikip%C3%A9dia:Accueil_principal, https://fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Judica%C3%ABl_de_Rennes. Hereinafter cited as Wikipédia (FR).
  11. [S2203] FMG Medieval Lands Website, online http://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/index.htm, https://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/brittnpr.htm#BerangerMDaughterGurvandBretagne
  12. [S1953] Wikipedia: The Free Encyclopedia, online http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Main_Page, https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Berengar_II_of_Neustria. Hereinafter cited as Wikipedia.
  13. [S1549] "Author's comment", various, Gregory A. Vaut (e-mail address), to unknown recipient (unknown recipient address), 29 March 2020; unknown repository, unknown repository address. Hereinafter cited as "GA Vaut Comment."
  14. [S1702] The Henry Project, online https://fasg.org/projects/henryproject/, http://sbaldw.home.mindspring.com/hproject/prov/pascw000.htm
  15. [S1702] The Henry Project, online https://fasg.org/projects/henryproject/, Juhel [alias] Bérenger: https://fasg.org/projects/henryproject/data/juhel000.htm

Ridoredh (?) Cte de Vannes1,2

M, #58598
ReferenceGAV32
Last Edited27 Aug 2020
      ; This is the same person as ”Ridoredh” at the Oxford Dictionary of National Biography.2 GAV-32.

Family

Children
  • Pasquitan (?) Cte de Vannes, Duc de Bretagne1,2 d. 877
  • Alain I "le Grand" (?) Duc de Bretagne+ b. c 840, d. 907; per The Henry Project: "The name of Alain's father is given only by an eleventh century Angevin document [Poupardin (1900), 206],which states that he was illegitimate son of an otherwise unidentified Ridoredh, and brother of Pascweten. The fact that Alain was a brother of Pascweten is confirmed by contemporary sources [e.g., Regino, MGH SS1: 587, quoted above; Cart. Redon, 186]."
    Cart. Redon = M. Aurélien de Courson, Cartulaire de l'Abaaye de Redon (Collection de documents inédites sur l'histoire de France, Paris, 1863).1,3,4,2

Citations

  1. [S1438] Miroslav Marek, online http://genealogy.euweb.cz/index.html, unknown author (e-mail address), downloaded updated 15 May 2003, Bretagne 2 page: http://genealogy.euweb.cz/bretagne/bretagne2.html
  2. [S1702] The Henry Project: The ancestors of king Henry II of England, An experiment in cooperative medieval genealogy on the internet (now hosted by the American Society of Genealogists, ASG), online https://fasg.org/projects/henryproject/, Ridoredh: https://fasg.org/projects/henryproject/data/ridor000.htm. Hereinafter cited as The Henry Project.
  3. [S1490] Genealogics Website (oiginated by Leo van de Pas, continued by Ian Fettes), online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Alain I 'le Grand': https://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00139574&tree=LEO. Hereinafter cited as Genealogics Website.
  4. [S1702] The Henry Project, online https://fasg.org/projects/henryproject/, Alain I "le Grand": https://fasg.org/projects/henryproject/data/alain000.htm

Pasquitan (?) Cte de Vannes, Duc de Bretagne1,2

M, #58599, d. 877
FatherRidoredh (?) Cte de Vannes1,2
Last Edited27 Aug 2020
     Pasquitan (?) Cte de Vannes, Duc de Bretagne married Prostlon (?), daughter of Salomon (?) Duc de Bretagne.1

Pasquitan (?) Cte de Vannes, Duc de Bretagne died in 877; The Henry Project says d. prob. 877 or late 876.1,3
      ; According to The Henry Project: " Pascweten, d. prob. 877 (or late 876), princeps Britanniae, joint ruler of Brittany, 874-876×7, m. Prostlon, daughter of Salomon, king of Brittany. [Annales Bertiniani s.a. 867: "... Paswithen gener Salomonis ...", MGH SS 1: 474; Cart. Redon 209 (name of wife)]
Along with a certain Gurvand, Pascweten was joint ruler of Brittany after the death of king Salomon. [Regino, MGH SS 1: 586-7, whose chronology is faulty; For the chronology, see de la Borderie (1890), 575-7]"
de la Borderie (1864, 1890) = Arthur de la Borderie, "Examen chronologique des chartes du cartulaire de Redon antérieur du XIe siècle", Bibliothèque de l'École des Chartes 25 (1964): 259-282, 393-434 [reprinted in Annales de Bretagne 5 (1889-90): 535-630]. Page numbers given are from the latter work.
MGH SS = Monumenta Germaniae Historica, Scriptores series.2 Pasquitan (?) Cte de Vannes, Duc de Bretagne was also known as Pascweten (?) Duc de Bretagne.4 He was Duc de Bretagne between 874 and 876.1

Family

Prostlon (?)

Citations

  1. [S1438] Miroslav Marek, online http://genealogy.euweb.cz/index.html, unknown author (e-mail address), downloaded updated 15 May 2003, Bretagne 2 page: http://genealogy.euweb.cz/bretagne/bretagne2.html
  2. [S1702] The Henry Project: The ancestors of king Henry II of England, An experiment in cooperative medieval genealogy on the internet (now hosted by the American Society of Genealogists, ASG), online https://fasg.org/projects/henryproject/, Ridoredh: https://fasg.org/projects/henryproject/data/ridor000.htm. Hereinafter cited as The Henry Project.
  3. [S1702] The Henry Project, online https://fasg.org/projects/henryproject/, http://sbaldw.home.mindspring.com/hproject/prov/ridor000.htm
  4. [S1702] The Henry Project, online https://fasg.org/projects/henryproject/, http://sbaldw.home.mindspring.com/hproject/prov/alain000.htm

Prostlon (?)1,2

F, #58600
FatherSalomon (?) Duc de Bretagne1,2 d. 874
Last Edited30 Apr 2006

Citations

  1. [S1438] Miroslav Marek, online http://genealogy.euweb.cz/index.html, unknown author (e-mail address), downloaded updated 15 May 2003, Bretagne 2 page: http://genealogy.euweb.cz/bretagne/bretagne2.html
  2. [S1702] The Henry Project: The ancestors of king Henry II of England, An experiment in cooperative medieval genealogy on the internet (now hosted by the American Society of Genealogists, ASG), online https://fasg.org/projects/henryproject/, http://sbaldw.home.mindspring.com/hproject/prov/ridor000.htm. Hereinafter cited as The Henry Project.

Salomon (?) Duc de Bretagne1

M, #58601, d. 874
Last Edited30 Apr 2006
     Salomon (?) Duc de Bretagne died in 874; murdered.1
     He was Duc de Bretagne between 857 and 874.1

Family

Child

Citations

  1. [S1438] Miroslav Marek, online http://genealogy.euweb.cz/index.html, unknown author (e-mail address), downloaded updated 15 May 2003, Bretagne 2 page: http://genealogy.euweb.cz/bretagne/bretagne2.html
  2. [S1702] The Henry Project: The ancestors of king Henry II of England, An experiment in cooperative medieval genealogy on the internet (now hosted by the American Society of Genealogists, ASG), online https://fasg.org/projects/henryproject/, http://sbaldw.home.mindspring.com/hproject/prov/ridor000.htm. Hereinafter cited as The Henry Project.

Alix/Adélaide de Sens Comtesse de Joigny1,2

F, #58602
FatherRenard I 'le Vieux' de Sens Comte de Sens3,4,2 b. 937, d. 997
ReferenceEDV29
Last Edited8 Nov 2020
     Alix/Adélaide de Sens Comtesse de Joigny married Engelbert II/III de Brienne Comte de Brienne
;
His 2nd wife; her 2nd husband.3,1,2,5,6 Alix/Adélaide de Sens Comtesse de Joigny married Geoffroy I de Joigny
;
Her 1st husband.1,7,8,2
      ; Per Genealogy.EU (de Brienne 1): “Engelbert III de Brienne, ca 1004/08; 1m: Windemodis N; 2m: Alix, dau.of Cte Renaud de Sens.”.9

Reference: Genealogics cites: Europäische Stammtafeln, J.A. Stargardt Verlag, Marburg, Schwennicke, Detlev (Ed.) 26:30 & 7:6.1

; This is the same person as ”Alix de Sens” at Wikipédia (FR).10 EDV-29.

; Per Med Lands:
     "ALIX de Sens . The primary source which confirms her parentage has not yet been identified. The Chronicle of Alberic de Trois-Fontaines refers to the wife of "comes de Brena super Albam Engelbertus" as "comitissam Ioviniaci viduam de primo marito"[62]. She died before her husband, as the same passage refers to her son-in-law inheriting Joigny after her death and subsequently building the first castle of Joinville with the help of his father-in-law.
     "m firstly GEOFFROY de Joigny, son of ---.
     "m secondly as his second wife, ENGELBERT [II] Comte de Brienne, son of [ENGELBERT [I] Comte [de Brienne] & his wife ---] (-1008 or after)."
Med Lands cites:
[62] Chronica Albrici Monachi Trium Fontium 1055, MGH SS XXIII, p. 790.2


; Per Med Lands:
     "GEOFFROY de Joigny, son of --- (-[6 Mar] [Nov 1035/1 Mar 1042]). Edouard de Saint-Phalle suggests that he was Geoffroy, nepos of Gauthier Comte de Gâtinais, referring to the letter dated to [997] in which Abbon abbé de Saint-Benoît-sur-Loire requested Pope Gregory V to order "…Quauz---, nepos Wal--- comitis de Castro Nantonis" to cease his activities (presumably against the monastery) under threat of excommunication, by letter dated [997][367]. He bases his theory on the donation dated Nov 1035 by Geoffroy de Joigny's son, Gilduin Archbishop of Sens, to the same abbey. The necrology of Saint-Etienne, Troyes records the death "6 Mar" of "Gaufridi de Jooigny"[368], although it is not known whether this entry refers to this Geoffroy.
     "m as her first husband, ALIX de Sens, daughter of RENARD [I] Comte de Sens & his wife ---. She married secondly as his second wife, Engelbert [II] Comte de Brienne. The primary source which confirms her parentage has not yet been identified. “Gaufridus comes” renounced rights over the village of Migennes which “domnus Gaufridus pater meus” had appropriated, in favour of the monastery of Notre-Dame et de Saint-Julien d’Auxerre at the request of “matris meæ Adhelaidis” and with the consent of “fratrum meorum Gilduini…archiepiscopi Senonensis et Rainardi”, by charter dated 1 Mar 1042[369]. The Chronicle of Alberic de Trois-Fontaines refers to the wife of "comes de Brena super Albam Engelbertus" as "comitissam Ioviniaci viduam de primo marito"[370]. She died before her husband, as the same passage refers to her son-in-law inheriting Joigny from her after her death and subsequently building the first castle of Joinville with the help of his father-in-law."
Med Lands cites:
[367] Saint-Phalle 'Les comtes de Gâtinais' (2000), p. 233 (no source citation).
[368] Troyes Necrologies, 2 Obituaire de Saint-Etienne, p. 219.
[369] Yonne, Tome I, XCIII, p. 178.
[370] Chronica Albrici Monachi Trium Fontium 1055, MGH SS XXIII, p. 790.8

Citations

  1. [S1490] Genealogics Website (oiginated by Leo van de Pas, continued by Ian Fettes), online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Alix|Adélaide: https://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00165106&tree=LEO. Hereinafter cited as Genealogics Website.
  2. [S2203] Foundation for Medieval Genealogy (FMG): MEDIEVAL LANDS - A prosopography of medieval European noble and royal families, online http://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/index.htm, https://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/chamsensjoi.htm#AlixSensM1GeofJoignyM2EngelbertBrienne. Hereinafter cited as FMG Medieval Lands Website.
  3. [S1438] Miroslav Marek, online http://genealogy.euweb.cz/index.html, unknown author (e-mail address), downloaded updated 15 May 2003, Brienne 1 page (de Brienne Family): http://genealogy.euweb.cz/brienne/brienne1.html
  4. [S1490] Genealogics Website, online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Renard I 'le Vieux': https://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00559465&tree=LEO
  5. [S1490] Genealogics Website, online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Engelbert de Brienne: https://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00165105&tree=LEO
  6. [S2203] FMG Medieval Lands Website, online http://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/index.htm, https://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/chambrien.htm#EngelbertIIIBriennedied1008B
  7. [S1490] Genealogics Website, online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Geoffroy I de Joigny: https://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00559463&tree=LEO
  8. [S2203] FMG Medieval Lands Website, online http://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/index.htm, https://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/chamsensjoi.htm#GeoffroyJoignyMAlixSens
  9. [S1438] Miroslav Marek, updated 15 May 2003, Brienne 1 page (de Brienne Family): http://genealogy.euweb.cz/brienne/brienne1.html
  10. [S4742] Wikipédia - L'encyclopédie libre, online https://fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikip%C3%A9dia:Accueil_principal, Alix de Sens: https://fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alix_de_Sens. Hereinafter cited as Wikipédia (FR).
  11. [S1490] Genealogics Website, online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, (Adelaide) de Brienne: https://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00165101&tree=LEO

Renard I 'le Vieux' de Sens Comte de Sens1

M, #58603, b. 937, d. 997
FatherFromont I (?) Comte de Sens2,1 b. 914, d. 951
ReferenceGAV30
Last Edited9 Oct 2020
     Renard I 'le Vieux' de Sens Comte de Sens was born in 937.2
Renard I 'le Vieux' de Sens Comte de Sens died in 997.1
     GAV-30.

Reference: Genealogics cites: Europäische Stammtafeln, J.A. Stargardt Verlag, Marburg, Schwennicke, Detlev (Ed.) 26:30.1 Renard I 'le Vieux' de Sens Comte de Sens was also known as Renaud Comte de Sens.3 Renard I 'le Vieux' de Sens Comte de Sens was also known as Renaud 'Le Vieux' Comte de Sens.2

Citations

  1. [S1490] Genealogics Website (oiginated by Leo van de Pas, continued by Ian Fettes), online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Renard I 'le Vieux': https://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00559465&tree=LEO. Hereinafter cited as Genealogics Website.
  2. [S2280] Racines et Histoire, online http://racineshistoire.free.fr/LGN/LGN-frameset.html, Maison de Courtenay, p. 2: http://racineshistoire.free.fr/LGN/PDF/Courtenay.pdf. Hereinafter cited as Racines et Histoire.
  3. [S1438] Miroslav Marek, online http://genealogy.euweb.cz/index.html, unknown author (e-mail address), downloaded updated 15 May 2003, Brienne 1 page (de Brienne Family): http://genealogy.euweb.cz/brienne/brienne1.html
  4. [S2203] Foundation for Medieval Genealogy (FMG): MEDIEVAL LANDS - A prosopography of medieval European noble and royal families, online http://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/index.htm, https://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/chamsensjoi.htm#AlixSensM1GeofJoignyM2EngelbertBrienne. Hereinafter cited as FMG Medieval Lands Website.

Guy (?) de la Pione1

M, #58604
FatherEngelbert II/III de Brienne Comte de Brienne1,2 b. c 880, d. c 969
MotherWandalmodisWindemodis (?)2 b. c 885
Last Edited9 Oct 2020

Citations

  1. [S1438] Miroslav Marek, online http://genealogy.euweb.cz/index.html, unknown author (e-mail address), downloaded updated 15 May 2003, Brienne 1 page (de Brienne Family): http://genealogy.euweb.cz/brienne/brienne1.html
  2. [S2203] Foundation for Medieval Genealogy (FMG): MEDIEVAL LANDS - A prosopography of medieval European noble and royal families, online http://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/index.htm, https://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/chambrien.htm#EngelbertIIIBriennedied1008B. Hereinafter cited as FMG Medieval Lands Website.

Adelaide de Brienne1,2

F, #58605
FatherEngelbert II/III de Brienne Comte de Brienne1,2,3 b. c 880, d. c 969
MotherAlix/Adélaide de Sens Comtesse de Joigny2,4
ReferenceEDV28
Last Edited6 Nov 2020
     Adelaide de Brienne married Etienne de Vaux Sire de Joinville in 1027.1,5,2

     EDV-28.

Reference: Genealogics cites: Europäische Stammtafeln, J.A. Stargardt Verlag Marburg., Detlev Schwennicke, Editor, Reference: VII 6.2

Citations

  1. [S1438] Miroslav Marek, online http://genealogy.euweb.cz/index.html, unknown author (e-mail address), downloaded updated 15 May 2003, Brienne 1 page (de Brienne Family): http://genealogy.euweb.cz/brienne/brienne1.html
  2. [S1490] Genealogics Website (oiginated by Leo van de Pas, continued by Ian Fettes), online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, (Adelaide) de Brienne: https://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00165101&tree=LEO. Hereinafter cited as Genealogics Website.
  3. [S1490] Genealogics Website, online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Engelbert de Brienne: https://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00165105&tree=LEO
  4. [S1490] Genealogics Website, online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Alix|Adélaide: https://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00165106&tree=LEO
  5. [S1490] Genealogics Website, online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Etienne de Vaux: http://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00165100&tree=LEO
  6. [S1490] Genealogics Website, online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Geoffroi I: https://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00165102&tree=LEO
  7. [S2203] Foundation for Medieval Genealogy (FMG): MEDIEVAL LANDS - A prosopography of medieval European noble and royal families, online http://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/index.htm, https://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/chamdampjo.htm#GeoffroyJoinvilledied1080. Hereinafter cited as FMG Medieval Lands Website.
  8. [S2280] Racines et Histoire, online http://racineshistoire.free.fr/LGN/LGN-frameset.html, Seigneurs de Joinville, p. 3: http://racineshistoire.free.fr/LGN/PDF/Joinville.pdf. Hereinafter cited as Racines et Histoire.

Guy V de Vignory1

M, #58606
FatherGuy IV de Vignory Sire de Vignory1 b. b 1100, d. c 1150
MotherAlais (?)1
Last Edited29 Apr 2004
     Guy V de Vignory married Tiphaine (?)2

      ; Leo van de Pas cites: Europäische Stammtafeln, J.A. Stargardt Verlag Marburg., Detlev Schwennicke, Editor, Reference: XV 197.1 Guy V de Vignory was living in 1133.1

Citations

  1. [S1490] Genealogics Website (oiginated by Leo van de Pas, continued by Ian Fettes), online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Guy V de Vignory: http://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00201735&tree=LEO. Hereinafter cited as Genealogics Website.
  2. [S1490] Genealogics Website, online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Tiphaine: http://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00201736&tree=LEO
  3. [S1490] Genealogics Website, online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Barthélémy de Vignory: http://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00201737&tree=LEO

Petronille (?)1

F, #58607
Last Edited1 Nov 2020

Citations

  1. [S1438] Miroslav Marek, online http://genealogy.euweb.cz/index.html, unknown author (e-mail address), downloaded updated 15 May 2003, Brienne 1 page (de Brienne Family): http://genealogy.euweb.cz/brienne/brienne1.html

Milon V (?) Cte de Tonnerre et de Bar-sur-Seine1,2

M, #58608
ReferenceEDV26
Last Edited1 Nov 2020
     EDV-26.

Citations

  1. [S1438] Miroslav Marek, online http://genealogy.euweb.cz/index.html, unknown author (e-mail address), downloaded updated 15 May 2003, Brienne 1 page (de Brienne Family): http://genealogy.euweb.cz/brienne/brienne1.html
  2. [S2203] Foundation for Medieval Genealogy (FMG): MEDIEVAL LANDS - A prosopography of medieval European noble and royal families, online http://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/index.htm, https://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/burgdtonne.htm#MiloIVTonnerredied1046B. Hereinafter cited as FMG Medieval Lands Website.

Engelbert (?) de Brienne1

M, #58609
FatherGauthier I de Brienne Count de Brienne1 d. c 1090
MotherEustache (?) de Bar-sur-Seine1
Last Edited17 Aug 2003
      ; a monk at Molesme.1

Citations

  1. [S1438] Miroslav Marek, online http://genealogy.euweb.cz/index.html, unknown author (e-mail address), downloaded updated 15 May 2003, Brienne 1 page (de Brienne Family): http://genealogy.euweb.cz/brienne/brienne1.html

Allarum/Alarun (?) de Cornouaille1,2

F, #58610
FatherBenoit de Cornouaïlle Comte de Cornouaïlle3,4 b. c 960, d. 1026
MotherGuigoëdon (?)3
ReferenceGAV26 EDV26
Last Edited11 Dec 2020
     Allarum/Alarun (?) de Cornouaille married Guethenoc (?) Vicomte du Château de Throen-Porhoët.5,1,6,3,7

      ; Per Med Lands: "ALLARUM . The primary source which confirms her parentage and marriage has not yet been identified. m GUETHENOC Vicomte du château de Thro-en-Porhoët, son of --- (-1046)."3 GAV-26 EDV-26.

Reference: Genealogics cites: Histoire et Genealogie des maisons de Rohan, Chabot, de Rohan-Chabot. , Georges Martin, Reference: I 226.8

Citations

  1. [S1490] Genealogics Website (oiginated by Leo van de Pas, continued by Ian Fettes), online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Allarum: http://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00046743&tree=LEO. Hereinafter cited as Genealogics Website.
  2. [S1438] Miroslav Marek, online http://genealogy.euweb.cz/index.html, unknown author (e-mail address), downloaded updated 15 May 2003, Rethel 2 page: http://genealogy.euweb.cz/crus/rethel2.html
  3. [S2203] Foundation for Medieval Genealogy (FMG): MEDIEVAL LANDS - A prosopography of medieval European noble and royal families, online http://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/index.htm, https://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/brittcope.htm#DaughterBenedictMGuethenolPorhoetdie1046. Hereinafter cited as FMG Medieval Lands Website.
  4. [S2203] FMG Medieval Lands Website, online http://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/index.htm, https://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/brittcope.htm#BenedictCornouailleTresvauxdied1026
  5. [S1490] Genealogics Website, online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Guethenoc: http://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00046742&tree=LEO
  6. [S1438] Miroslav Marek, updated 15 May 2003, Rohan 1 page - Family de Rohan: http://genealogy.euweb.cz/rohan/rohan1.html
  7. [S2203] FMG Medieval Lands Website, online http://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/index.htm, https://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/brittnpr.htm#GuethenocPorhoetdied1046
  8. [S1490] Genealogics Website, online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Allarum: https://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00046743&tree=LEO
  9. [S1490] Genealogics Website, online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Josselin: https://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00046744&tree=LEO

Miles II (?) Sire de Noyers1,2

M, #58611
Last Edited23 Dec 2020
     Miles II (?) Sire de Noyers married Anna (?)3,2

      ; Leo van de Pas cites: Europäische Stammtafeln, J.A. Stargardt Verlag Marburg., Detlev Schwennicke, Editor, Reference: XV 126;III 681.2 Miles II (?) Sire de Noyers was living in 1077.2

Citations

  1. [S1438] Miroslav Marek, online http://genealogy.euweb.cz/index.html, unknown author (e-mail address), downloaded updated 15 May 2003, Brienne 1 page (de Brienne Family): http://genealogy.euweb.cz/brienne/brienne1.html
  2. [S1490] Genealogics Website (oiginated by Leo van de Pas, continued by Ian Fettes), online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Miles II: http://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00163430&tree=LEO. Hereinafter cited as Genealogics Website.
  3. [S1490] Genealogics Website, online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Mahaut de Noyers: http://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00029162&tree=LEO
  4. [S1490] Genealogics Website, online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Mahaut de Noyers: https://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00029162&tree=LEO
  5. [S2203] Foundation for Medieval Genealogy (FMG): MEDIEVAL LANDS - A prosopography of medieval European noble and royal families, online http://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/index.htm, https://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/burgdtonne.htm#MathildeNoyersMMilonIIBarSeine. Hereinafter cited as FMG Medieval Lands Website.
  6. [S1490] Genealogics Website, online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Miles III: http://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00164498&tree=LEO

Guy (?) de Brienne1

M, #58612, d. after 22 January 1243
FatherErard I de Brienne Comte de Brienne1,2,3,4 d. bt 1114 - 1125
MotherAlix de Montdidier Dame de Ramerupt1,3,4,5 d. a 1143
Last Edited8 Oct 2020
     Guy (?) de Brienne died after 22 January 1243.1

Citations

  1. [S1438] Miroslav Marek, online http://genealogy.euweb.cz/index.html, unknown author (e-mail address), downloaded updated 15 May 2003, Brienne 1 page (de Brienne Family): http://genealogy.euweb.cz/brienne/brienne1.html
  2. [S1490] Genealogics Website (oiginated by Leo van de Pas, continued by Ian Fettes), online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Erard I: https://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00028302&tree=LEO. Hereinafter cited as Genealogics Website.
  3. [S2203] Foundation for Medieval Genealogy (FMG): MEDIEVAL LANDS - A prosopography of medieval European noble and royal families, online http://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/index.htm, https://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/chambrien.htm#ErardIBriennedied11141125. Hereinafter cited as FMG Medieval Lands Website.
  4. [S2280] Racines et Histoire, online http://racineshistoire.free.fr/LGN/LGN-frameset.html, Maison de Brienne, p. 3: http://racineshistoire.free.fr/LGN/PDF/Brienne.pdf. Hereinafter cited as Racines et Histoire.
  5. [S1490] Genealogics Website, online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Alix: https://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00028303&tree=LEO

Humbeline (alias Adélaïde) de Baudément1,2

F, #58613, d. circa 1166
FatherAndré de Baudément seigneur de Baudément et Braine, Senechal de Champagne1,2,3,4 b. c 1075, d. 19 Jul 1142
MotherAgnes (?) Dame de Braine2,3,4 b. c 1080
ReferenceEDV24
Last Edited6 Nov 2020
     Humbeline (alias Adélaïde) de Baudément married Anseric II de Chacenay Sire de Chacenay, son of Milon de Chacenay Seigneur de Chacenay and Adelaide (?),
;
Her 1st husband (per Med Lands.)5,6,7 Humbeline (alias Adélaïde) de Baudément married Eustache II (?) vidame de Châlons-en-Champagne between 1120 and 1125
;
Her 1st husband according to Racines et Histoire. Med Lands and Genealogics both show her 1st marriage to Anseric II Seigneur de Chacenay.8,4,9 Humbeline (alias Adélaïde) de Baudément married Gauthier II de Brienne Comte de Brienne, seigneur de Ramerupt, son of Erard I de Brienne Comte de Brienne and Alix de Montdidier Dame de Ramerupt, between 1130 and 1133
; his 1st wife; her 2nd husband.1,2,10,3,11 Humbeline (alias Adélaïde) de Baudément and Gauthier II de Brienne Comte de Brienne, seigneur de Ramerupt were divorced before 1147.4
Humbeline (alias Adélaïde) de Baudément died circa 1166.4
      ; Per Racines et Histoire: "Gautier II de Brienne ° ~1045 + ~1161 comte de Brienne, seigneur de Ramerupt (1113), croisé (1147)
     ép. 1) ~1130/33 Adélaïde (Humbeline) de Baudement + après 1161 (fille d’André de Baudement, seigneur de Braine ; veuve d’Eustache II, vidame de Châlons-enChampagne + ~1130)
     ép. 2) ? de Soissons ° 1110 + 1137 (fille de Jean de Nesle, comte de Soissons.)12
     [ ? ép. 3) 1137 Humbeline de Troyes
     ép. 4) 1146 Adelais ]"

; Per Med Lands:
     "GAUTHIER [II] de Brienne, son of ERARD [I] Comte de Brienne & his wife Alix de Montdidier (-before 1161). "Airardus Breonensis comes…et comitem Barrensem Milonem fratrem suum" are named in a charter dated [1125 or before], in which "Walterii nepotis sui filii Airardi defuncti comitis" is named, clarifying that his father was then deceased[50]. The Chronicle of Alberic de Trois-Fontaines names "comitem Brenensem Galterum et sororem eius Felicitatem" as children of "Erardus…comes Brenensis" & his wife[51]. The Genealogiæ Scriptoris Fusniacensis names "Galterum comitem eiusdem loci et sororem eius nomine Felicitatem" as children of "Aerardo comiti Briennensi" & his wife, specifying that "Galterus comes genuit Aerardum comitem et Andream atque Mariam castellanam de Sancto Otmaro cum aliis liberis"[52]. He succeeded his father as Comte de Brienne. Seigneur de Ramerupt. He founded the abbey of Bassefontaine with his mother in 1143[53]. "Walterus Brenensis comes" granted "decimam reddituum suorum de Brena Castello" to the abbey of Basse-Fontaine by charter dated 22 Jan 1143, subscribed by "Airardi filii sui, Andree filii sui, Marie filie sue…Johannis de Brena clerici…Guidonis fratris comitis"[54]. He took part in the Second Crusade in 1147[55].
     "m firstly ---. This possible first marriage is indicated only by one possible interpretation of the charter dated 1174 under which the bishop of Troyes confirmed his judgment relating to "villa de Prait" which names "comitum de Brena Herardum" and is witne[ssed by "Andreas frater comitis, Erardus nepos eius de Chacenaio"[56]. As discussed more fully below under Comte Gauthier [II]’s wife Humbeline, this document could mean that Erard de Chacenay was related to Erard [II] Comte de Brienne through Humbeline’s possible first marriage. If that is correct, Comte Gauthier’s daughter Agnes, married to Jacques de Chacenay, must have been born from an otherwise unrecorded earlier marriage of her father. As noted below, the more likely interpretation of the 1174 document is that Erard de Chacenay was nepos of Erard [II] because he was the son of the latter’s sister.]
     "m [firstly/secondly] ([repudiated before 1147]) HUMBELINE de Baudémont, daughter of ANDRE de Baudémont Seneschal de Champagne & his wife Agnes --- (-1166 or after). A charter dated 1138 notes that "Galterum Brennensem comitem" donated property to the hospitals of Chalette and Brienne with the consent of "uxoris sue Hubeline"[57]. Her parentage is confirmed by the charter dated 1144 under which "Aelidis uxor Widonis domini de Brana post mortem viri sui…Guidonis" donated "census…Branæ castri et Branellæ villæ" to the Premonstré abbey, with the consent of "patre eorum Andrea de Baldimento et matre eorum Agnetis et ipsorum fratre Waleranno Vrsicampi abbate et sororibus eorum Helwide et Hubelina et earum maritis Waltero comiti de Brienna et Guidone de Dampierre" (although the names of the brothers-in-law are reversed in this document)[58]. [It is possible that Humbeline married firstly Anseric [II] Seigneur de Chacenay. This possible first marriage is suggested by one interpretation of the charter dated 1174 which records a dispute involving her son "comitem de Brenna Herardum" which was witnessed by “Erardus nepos eius de Chacenaio”[59]. What supports this possible interpretation is that the wife of Anseric [II] was named Humbeline, as shown by the charter dated 22 Feb 1119 under which "Ansericus de Cacennaco…uxoris Hubeline…filio meo Jacobo" donated property to the abbey of Molesme[60]. Another interesting observation is that the sister of Humbeline de Baudémont married Hugues Seigneur de Montréal, the possible brother of Anséric [II], duplicate brothers/sisters marriages being relatively frequent at the time. However, there are two problems with this possible interpretation of the 1174 document. Firstly, a chronological difficulty is suggested by the birth of Humbeline’s son by her supposed first marriage before 1119, Anseric’s death in 1137, and the supposed birth of several children by her second marriage before 1147. Secondly, the more natural interpretation of the 1174 document is that Erard de Chacenay was nepos of Erard de Brienne because he was the son of the latter’s sister. As discussed in more detail below, this latter interpretation also best explains another charter dated 1146 as well as the introduction of the name Erard into the family of the seigneurs de Chacenay. If that second interpretation is correct, there were two different individuals named Humbeline, one married to Anseric de Chacenay and the other to Gauthier de Brienne.] "Matris mee" is recorded as present in the charter dated 1166 of "Erardus Brenensis comes"[61]. "E Brenensium comes" donated property to Basse-Fontaine "matre mea mediante actum fuisse" by charter dated 1166[62]. Neither charter names the mother of Comte Erard, but they show that she survived her husband. Gauthier must therefore have repudiated Humbeline before his marriage to Adelais, who is named in a charter dated 1147 as his wife (see below).
     "m [secondly/thirdly] (before 1147) ADELAIS, daughter of ---. "G comes Brene" donated property to "ecclesie Sancte Marie de Rameruco" with the consent of "uxoris Adelisis, Erardi, Andreæ filium meorum atque Marie filie mee" by charter dated 1147[63]. "Walterus comes Brenensis" made donations to the priory of Jully-les-Nonnains with the consent of "Adelaidis uxor suæ et filiorum meorum Arardi et Andree et filiarum mearum Marie et Helvidis" by charter dated [1150][64].
     "Comte Gauthier [II] & his [first/second] wife had nine children [this document assumes that Humbeline was the mother of all of Gauthier’s children, in line with the most natural interpretation of the various charters which are quoted here. If Humbeline was the same person as the widow of Anseric [II] Seigneur de Chacenay, several of the older children shown here must have been born from Gauthier’s first marriage.]"
Med Lands cites:
[50] Montiérender 72, p. 197.
[51] Chronica Albrici Monachi Trium Fontium 1107, MGH SS XXIII, p. 818.
[52] Genealogiæ Scriptoris Fusniacensis 13, MGH SS XIII, p. 254.
[53] ES III 681.
[54] Basse-Fontaine 1, p. 1.
[55] Sturdza (1999), p. 507.
[56] Yonne, Tome II, 234, p. 251.
[57] Troyes Saint-Loup, 7, p. 22.
[58] Duchesne (Dreux, Broyes et Châteauvillain) (1631), Dreux, Dreux, Preuves, p. 233, quoting Extrait du cartulaire de l’abbaye de Premonstré, de censibus Branæ et Branellæ.
[59] Yonne, Tome II, CCXXXIV, p. 251.
[60] Molesme, Tome II, 259, p. 241.
[61] Basse-Fontaine 5, p. 6.
[62] Basse-Fontaine 13, p. 18.
[63] Bibliothèque de l'Ecole des Chartes 1861, 5e série, t. 2, p. 456.
[64] Jully-les-Nonnains [1150], p. 16.11
EDV-24.

; Per Med Lands:
     "HUMBELINE de Baudément (-1166 or after). A charter dated 1138 notes that "Galterum Brennensem comitem" donated property to the hospitals of Chalette and Brienne with the consent of "uxoris sue Hubeline"[845]. Her parentage is confirmed by the charter dated 1144 under which "Aelidis uxor Widonis domini de Brana post mortem viri sui…Guidonis" donated "census…Branæ castri et Branellæ villæ" to the Premonstré abbey, with the consent of "patre eorum Andrea de Baldimento et matre eorum Agnetis et ipsorum fratre Waleranno Vrsicampi abbate et sororibus eorum Helwide et Hubelina et earum maritis Waltero comiti de Brienna et Guidone de Dampierre" (although the names of the brothers-in-law are reversed in this document)[846].
     "[It is possible that Humbeline married firstly Anseric [II] Seigneur de Chacenay. This possible first marriage is suggested by one interpretation of the charter dated 1174 which records a dispute involving her son "comitem de Brenna Herardum" which was witnessed by “Erardus nepos eius de Chacenaio”[847]. What supports this possible interpretation is that the wife of Anseric [II] was named Humbeline, as shown by the charter dated 22 Feb 1119 under which "Ansericus de Cacennaco…uxoris Hubeline…filio meo Jacobo" donated property to the abbey of Molesme[848]. Another interesting observation is that the sister of Humbeline de Baudémont married Hugues Seigneur de Montréal, the possible brother of Anséric [II], duplicate brothers/sisters marriages being relatively frequent at the time. However, there are two problems with this possible interpretation of the 1174 document. Firstly, a chronological difficulty is suggested by the birth of Humbeline’s son by her supposed first marriage before 1119, Anseric’s death in 1137, and the supposed birth of several children by her second marriage before 1147. Secondly, the more natural interpretation of the 1174 document is that Erard de Chacenay was nepos of Erard de Brienne because he was the son of the latter’s sister. As discussed in more detail in the document CHAMPAGNE NOBILITY, this latter interpretation also best explains another charter dated 1146 as well as the introduction of the name Erard into the family of the seigneurs de Chacenay. If that second interpretation is correct, there were two different individuals named Humbeline, one married to Anseric de Chacenay and the other to Gauthier de Brienne.] "Matris mee" is recorded as present in the charter dated 1166 of "Erardus Brenensis comes"[849]. "E Brenensium comes" donated property to Basse-Fontaine "matre mea mediante actum fuisse" by charter dated 1166[850]. Neither charter names the mother of Comte Erard, but they show that she survived her husband. Gauthier must have repudiated Humbeline before his marriage to Adelais, who is named in a charter dated 1147 as his wife (see below).
     "m (repudiated before [1147]) as his [first/second] wife, GAUTHIER [II] Comte de Brienne, son of ERARD [I] Comte de Brienne & his wife Alix de Montdidier (-before 1161)."
Med Lands cites:
[845] Troyes Saint-Loup, 7, p. 22.
[846] Du Chesne (1631) Dreux, Dreux, Preuves, p. 233, quoting Extrait du cartulaire de l’abbaye de Premonstré, de censibus Branæ et Branellæ.
[847] Yonne II, CCXXXIV, p. 251.
[848] Molesme II, 259, p. 241.
[849] Basse-Fontaine 5, p. 6.
[850] Basse-Fontaine 13, p. 18.4


; NB: There is a possiblity that there were two women named Humbeline: possibly a Humbeline de de Baudément and another named Humbeline (de Troyes?). This would help explain the confusion that seems to exist among the major secondary sources at4 my disposal (Genealogics, Med Lands, Racines et Histoire, Genealogy.EU, etc.)
     I have found neither a reasonable discussion of this that evaluates all of the possibilities, not have I been able to find a source fo the toponymic "de Troyes" used in some cases. Thus, I have, for the moment, assumed that they are the same woman and that she was Humbeline, the dau. of André de Baudémont. GA Vaut.12,13,14,15,11,4,9,8,16

Reference: Genealogics cites:
1. Europäische Stammtafeln, J.A. Stargardt Verlag, Marburg, Schwennicke, Detlev (Ed.) 3:681.
2. La formation du comté de Champagne v. 950 - v.1150 , Bur, Nichel.3
Humbeline (alias Adélaïde) de Baudément was also known as Humbeline de Troyes.5

; Per Racines et Histoire: " Hu(m)beline (alias Adélaïde) de Baudément
     ép. 1) ~1120/25 Eustache II, vidame de Châlons-en-Champagne (51) + ~1130 dès 1133
     ép. 2) ~1130/33 Gautier II, comte de Brienne, chevalier, seigneur de Ramerupt (1113), croisé (1147) + dès 1161 (fils d’Erard 1er, comte de Brienne, et d’Alix de Montdidier.)8"

; Per Med Lands:
     "ANSERIC [II] de Chacenay (-1137). "…Ansericus, Milonis filius de Cacynniacho…" witnessed the charter dated 1107 under which "Hugo Trecassinus comes" donated property to Montiéramey[292]. Seigneur de Chacenay. "Ansericus de Cacynniacho…" witnessed the charter dated 1111 under which "Hugo Trecassinus comes" donated property to Montiéramey[293]. "Ansericus de Cacennaco…uxoris Hubeline…filio meo Jacobo" donated property to the abbey of Molesme by charter dated 22 Feb 1119[294]. "Ansericus de Chacethniaco" donated property to Clairvaux, with the consent of "uxore sua Humbelina", by charter dated to 1135 or before[295].
     "m HUMBELINE, daughter of --- (-after 1137). "Ansericus de Cacennaco…uxoris Hubeline…filio meo Jacobo" donated property to the abbey of Molesme by charter dated 22 Feb 1119[296]. It is likely that Humbeline was closely related to Bernard Abbot of Clairvaux, maybe his sister, as he is mentioned in three charters connected with her. "Hubelina uxor Anseric de Caccennaco" donated property to the priory of Jully-les-Nonnains by charter dated 1133 which names "Godefrido et Girardo fratre abbatis Clarevallis"[297]. "Ansericus de Chacethniaco" donated property to Clairvaux, with the consent of "uxore sua Humbelina", by charter dated to 1135 or before[298]. "Hubelina domena de Chacenay uxor Anserici defuncto" made donations to "fratribus de Ripatorio" with the consent of "Jacobo filio eius" by charter dated 1137, subscribed by "Bernardus abbas Clerævallis, Odo filius Josleni"[299]. [It is possible that Humbeline married secondly Gauthier [II] Comte de Brienne. If that is correct, she was Humbeline de Baudémont, daughter of André de Baudémont Seneschal de Champagne & his wife Agnes ---. This possible second marriage is suggested by one interpretation of a charter dated 1174 which records a dispute involving "comitem de Brenna Herardum" which was witnessed by her grandson “Erardus nepos eius de Chacenaio”[300]. Another interesting observation is that the sister of Humbeline de Baudémont married Hugues Seigneur de Montréal, shown above as the possible brother of Anséric [II], duplicate brothers/sisters marriages being relatively frequent at the time. However, there are two problems with this possible interpretation of the 1174 document. Firstly, a chronological difficulty is suggested by the birth of Humbeline’s son by her supposed first marriage before 1119, Anseric’s death in 1137, and the supposed birth of several children by her second marriage before 1147. Secondly, the more natural interpretation of the 1174 document is that Erard de Chacenay was nepos of Erard de Brienne because he was the son of the latter’s sister. As discussed in more detail in the chapter dealing with the Comtes de Brienne, this latter interpretation also best explains another charter dated 1146 as well as the introduction of the name Erard into the family of the seigneurs de Chacenay. If that second interpretation is correct, there were two different individuals named Humbeline, one married to Anseric de Chacenay and the other to Gauthier de Brienne.]
     "Anseric [II] & his wife had four children:
(a) JACQUES de Chacenay (-15 Jun [1152/58]).
(b) ANSERIC [III] .
(c) THOMAS (-after [1177]).
(d) PETRONILLE-ELISABETH de Chacenay (-1165 or after)."

Med Lands cites:
[292] Montiéramey 18, p. 29.
[293] Montiéramey 18, p. 29.
[294] Molesme, Tome II, 259, p. 241.
[295] Lalore (1885), 18, p. 11, quoting Bibliothèque de Troyes Cartulaire de Clairvaux, p. 3.
[296] Molesme, Tome II, 259, p. 241.
[297] Jully-les-Nonnains 1133, p. 11.
[298] Lalore (1885), 18, p. 11, quoting Bibliothèque de Troyes Cartulaire de Clairvaux, p. 3.
[299] Jully-les-Nonnains 1137, p. 13.
[300] Yonne, Tome II, CCXXXIV, p. 251.7
She was living in 1113.5

Citations

  1. [S1438] Miroslav Marek, online http://genealogy.euweb.cz/index.html, unknown author (e-mail address), downloaded updated 15 May 2003, Brienne 1 page (de Brienne Family): http://genealogy.euweb.cz/brienne/brienne1.html
  2. [S2280] Racines et Histoire, online http://racineshistoire.free.fr/LGN/LGN-frameset.html, http://racineshistoire.free.fr/LGN/PDF/Baudément.pdf, p. 2. Hereinafter cited as Racines et Histoire.
  3. [S1490] Genealogics Website (oiginated by Leo van de Pas, continued by Ian Fettes), online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Humbeline de Baudement: https://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00452682&tree=LEO. Hereinafter cited as Genealogics Website.
  4. [S2203] Foundation for Medieval Genealogy (FMG): MEDIEVAL LANDS - A prosopography of medieval European noble and royal families, online http://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/index.htm, https://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/nfralaoncou.htm#HumbelineBaudementMGauthierIIBrienne. Hereinafter cited as FMG Medieval Lands Website.
  5. [S1490] Genealogics Website, online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Humbeline de Troyes: http://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00046793&tree=LEO
  6. [S1490] Genealogics Website, online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Anséric II: https://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00029159&tree=LEO
  7. [S2203] FMG Medieval Lands Website, online http://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/index.htm, https://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/chambarsein.htm#AnsericIIChacenaydied1137
  8. [S2280] Racines et Histoire, online http://racineshistoire.free.fr/LGN/LGN-frameset.html, Seigneurs de Baudément, p. 2: http://racineshistoire.free.fr/LGN/PDF/Baudement.pdf
  9. [S1490] Genealogics Website, online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Humbeline de Troyes: https://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00046793&tree=LEO
  10. [S1490] Genealogics Website, online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Gauthier II, Comte de Brienne: https://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00028300&tree=LEO
  11. [S2203] FMG Medieval Lands Website, online http://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/index.htm, https://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/chambrien.htm#GautierIIBriennedied1161B
  12. [S2280] Racines et Histoire, online http://racineshistoire.free.fr/LGN/LGN-frameset.html, Maison de Brienne, p. 3: http://racineshistoire.free.fr/LGN/PDF/Brienne.pdf
  13. [S1438] Miroslav Marek, updated 15 May 2003, Brienne 1 page ("de Brienne Family"): http://genealogy.euweb.cz/brienne/brienne1.html#ER
  14. [S1490] Genealogics Website, online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Mathilde: https://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00275716&tree=LEO
  15. [S1490] Genealogics Website, online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Guillaume III: https://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00275715&tree=LEO
  16. [S1549] "Author's comment", various, Gregory A. Vaut (e-mail address), to unknown recipient (unknown recipient address), 23 April 2020; unknown repository, unknown repository address. Hereinafter cited as "GA Vaut Comment."
  17. [S2203] FMG Medieval Lands Website, online http://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/index.htm, https://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/chambarsein.htm#JacquesChacenaydied1158B
  18. [S1490] Genealogics Website, online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Pétronille-Elisabeth de Chacenay: https://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00029158&tree=LEO
  19. [S1490] Genealogics Website, online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Elwide de Brienne: http://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00201738&tree=LEO
  20. [S1490] Genealogics Website, online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Mahaud-Alix de Brienne: https://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00046895&tree=LEO
  21. [S1490] Genealogics Website, online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Erard II: http://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00026640&tree=LEO
  22. [S1490] Genealogics Website, online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, André de Brienne, Seigneur de Ramerupt: https://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00122049&tree=LEO

Humbeline (?) de Troyes1

F, #58614
Last Edited20 Aug 2019

Citations

  1. [S1438] Miroslav Marek, online http://genealogy.euweb.cz/index.html, unknown author (e-mail address), downloaded updated 15 May 2003, Brienne 1 page (de Brienne Family): http://genealogy.euweb.cz/brienne/brienne1.html

Guy (?) de Brienne1

M, #58615, d. after 1143
FatherGauthier II de Brienne Comte de Brienne, seigneur de Ramerupt1,2 b. a 1095, d. b 1161
MotherHumbeline (alias Adélaïde) de Baudément1 d. c 1166
Last Edited23 Apr 2020
     Guy (?) de Brienne died after 1143.1
     He was living in 1143.1

Citations

  1. [S1438] Miroslav Marek, online http://genealogy.euweb.cz/index.html, unknown author (e-mail address), downloaded updated 15 May 2003, Brienne 1 page (de Brienne Family): http://genealogy.euweb.cz/brienne/brienne1.html
  2. [S2203] Foundation for Medieval Genealogy (FMG): MEDIEVAL LANDS - A prosopography of medieval European noble and royal families, online http://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/index.htm, https://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/chambrien.htm#GautierIIBriennedied1161B. Hereinafter cited as FMG Medieval Lands Website.

Eustache (2) (?) de Brienne1,2

M, #58616, d. circa 1166
FatherGauthier II de Brienne Comte de Brienne, seigneur de Ramerupt1,2 b. a 1095, d. b 1161
MotherHumbeline (alias Adélaïde) de Baudément1,2 d. c 1166
Last Edited23 Apr 2020
     Eustache (2) (?) de Brienne died circa 1166.2
      ; Per Med Lands:
     "EUSTACHE de Brienne (-1166 or after). "Robertus de Mastoil" donated property to Basse-Fontaine by charter dated 1166 witnessed by "Airaldus Brenensium comes, Eustacius et Andreas fratres eius, vicecomes Odo"[74]. According to Europäische Stammtafeln[75], Eustache was possible ancestor of the Seigneurs de Conflans."
Med Lands cites:
[74] Basse-Fontaine 15, p. 20.
[75] ES III 681.2


; may have been ancestor of the Sires de Conflans.1

Citations

  1. [S1438] Miroslav Marek, online http://genealogy.euweb.cz/index.html, unknown author (e-mail address), downloaded updated 15 May 2003, Brienne 1 page (de Brienne Family): http://genealogy.euweb.cz/brienne/brienne1.html
  2. [S2203] Foundation for Medieval Genealogy (FMG): MEDIEVAL LANDS - A prosopography of medieval European noble and royal families, online http://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/index.htm, https://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/chambrien.htm#GautierIIBriennedied1161B. Hereinafter cited as FMG Medieval Lands Website.

Jean (?) de Brienne, Abbot of Beaulieu1

M, #58617, d. circa 1192
FatherGauthier II de Brienne Comte de Brienne, seigneur de Ramerupt1,2 b. a 1095, d. b 1161
MotherNN de Soissons1
Last Edited23 Apr 2020
     Jean (?) de Brienne, Abbot of Beaulieu died circa 1192.1

Citations

  1. [S1438] Miroslav Marek, online http://genealogy.euweb.cz/index.html, unknown author (e-mail address), downloaded updated 15 May 2003, Brienne 1 page (de Brienne Family): http://genealogy.euweb.cz/brienne/brienne1.html
  2. [S2203] Foundation for Medieval Genealogy (FMG): MEDIEVAL LANDS - A prosopography of medieval European noble and royal families, online http://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/index.htm, https://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/chambrien.htm#GautierIIBriennedied1161B. Hereinafter cited as FMG Medieval Lands Website.

Agnes (?) de Brienne1

F, #58618, d. after 1191
FatherGauthier II de Brienne Comte de Brienne, seigneur de Ramerupt1,2 b. a 1095, d. b 1161
MotherNN de Soissons1
Last Edited23 Apr 2020
     Agnes (?) de Brienne married Jacques de Chacenay Seigneur de Chacenay, son of Anseric II de Chacenay Sire de Chacenay and Humbeline (alias Adélaïde) de Baudément, before 1138
;
Her 1st husband. Genealogy.EU says m. bef 1138; Med Lands says m. bef 1146.1,3 Agnes (?) de Brienne married Jean (?) de Salmaise, Sire de Chacenay
; his 2nd husband.1
Agnes (?) de Brienne died after 1191.1
      ; Per Genealogy.EU: "E6. [1m. or 2m.] Agnes de Brienne, +after 1191; 1m: before 1138 Jacques, Sire de Chacenay; 2m: Jean de Salmaise, Sire de Chacenay."1

; Per Racines et Histoire: "1ou2 ?) Agnès de Brienne ° ~1125 + après 1191
     ép. 1) ~ 1138 Jacques de Chacenay + 1158
     ép. 2) Jean de Mont-SaintJean, seigneur de Salmaise + 1183."4

Family 2

Jean (?) de Salmaise, Sire de Chacenay

Citations

  1. [S1438] Miroslav Marek, online http://genealogy.euweb.cz/index.html, unknown author (e-mail address), downloaded updated 15 May 2003, Brienne 1 page (de Brienne Family): http://genealogy.euweb.cz/brienne/brienne1.html
  2. [S2203] Foundation for Medieval Genealogy (FMG): MEDIEVAL LANDS - A prosopography of medieval European noble and royal families, online http://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/index.htm, https://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/chambrien.htm#GautierIIBriennedied1161B. Hereinafter cited as FMG Medieval Lands Website.
  3. [S2203] FMG Medieval Lands Website, online http://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/index.htm, https://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/chambarsein.htm#JacquesChacenaydied1158B
  4. [S2280] Racines et Histoire, online http://racineshistoire.free.fr/LGN/LGN-frameset.html, Maison de Brienne, p. 4: http://racineshistoire.free.fr/LGN/PDF/Brienne.pdf. Hereinafter cited as Racines et Histoire.
  5. [S2203] FMG Medieval Lands Website, online http://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/index.htm, https://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/chambarsein.htm#ErardIIChacenayMMathildeDonzy

Jacques de Chacenay Seigneur de Chacenay1,2

M, #58619, d. between 15 June 1152 and 1158
FatherAnseric II de Chacenay Sire de Chacenay3,2 d. 1137
MotherHumbeline (alias Adélaïde) de Baudément3,2 d. c 1166
Last Edited23 Apr 2020
     Jacques de Chacenay Seigneur de Chacenay married Agnes (?) de Brienne, daughter of Gauthier II de Brienne Comte de Brienne, seigneur de Ramerupt and NN de Soissons, before 1138
;
Her 1st husband. Genealogy.EU says m. bef 1138; Med Lands says m. bef 1146.1,2
Jacques de Chacenay Seigneur de Chacenay died between 15 June 1152 and 1158.2
      ; Per Med Lands:
     "JACQUES de Chacenay, son of ANSERIC [II] Seigneur de Chacenay & his wife Humbeline [de Troyes] (-15 Jun [1152/58]). "Ansericus de Cacennaco…uxoris Hubeline…filio meo Jacobo" donated property to the abbey of Molesme by charter dated 22 Feb 1119[307]. Seigneur de Chacenay. "Hubelina domena de Chacenay uxor Anserici defuncto" made donations to "fratribus de Ripatorio" with the consent of "Jacobo filio eius" by charter dated 1137, subscribed by "Bernardus abbas Clerævallis, Odo filius Josleni"[308]. "Jacobus dominus de Cachennai" with the consent of "Agnetis uxoris mee" made donations to Basse-Fontaine on the suggestion of "Galteri Brenensium comitis et matris, uxoris eius, domine Agnetis de Baldimento et domine mee A Brenensium comitisse" by charter dated 1146[309]. The foundation charter of the abbey of Mores, undated but dated to 1152, records the donations of "Ansericus de Chacennaico…uxore sua Hubelina et filio suo Jacobo" and "Jacobus de Chacennaio…uxore sua Agnete"[310].
     "m (before 1146) [as her first husband,] AGNES [de Brienne, daughter of GAUTHIER [II] Comte de Brienne] & his [first/second] wife [---/Humbeline de Baudément] ([1122/25]-after 1191). "Jacobus dominus de Cachennai", with the consent of "Agnetis uxoris mee", made donations to Basse-Fontaine on the suggestion of "Galteri Brenensium comitis et matris, uxoris eius, domine Agnetis de Baldimento et domine mee A Brenensium comitisse" by charter dated 1146[311]. The parentage of the wife of Jacques Seigneur de Chacenay is suggested by this document dated 1146. It is also indicated by the charter dated 1174 under which the bishop of Troyes confirmed his judgment relating to "villa de Prait" which names her supposed brother "comitum de Brena Herardum" and is witnessed by "Andreas frater comitis, Erardus nepos eius de Chacenaio"[312]. One of the interpretations of this document is that "Erardus nepos eius [=of Erard [II] Comte de Brienne] de Chacenaio" was the nephew of Comte Erard because he was the son of his sister. Another possible interpretation of the 1174 document, as explained in more detail in the chapter dealing with the comtes de Brienne, is that Erard de Chacenay was "nepos" of Erard [II] Comte de Brienne because of a relationship through the latter’s mother, Humbeline de Baudément, wife of Gauthier [II] Comte de Brienne. In that case, Agnes must have been born from an otherwise unrecorded first marriage of her father. However, this alternative interpretation does not satisfactorily explain the charter dated 1146 nor the entry of the name "Erard" into the Chacenay family after Agnes’s marriage, which certainly suggests that Agnes belonged to the family of the comtes de Brienne. If Agnes’s parentage is correctly shown in the present document, she must have been one of her parents’ oldest children. "Agnes domina de Chacennaio…filiis suis Thoma et Ayrardo" made donations to the abbey of Mores by charter dated 1158, confirmed by "Henricus…Trecensis episcopus"[313]. She maybe married secondly Jean ---. Her second marriage is suggested by the charter dated to [1179/83] under which "Agnes domine de Cachenanaio", with the consent of her unnamed children, made donations to Basse-Fontaine for the soul of "domini mei Jacobi…filius meus Erardus…quando perrexit Jerosolimam", witnessed by "Johannes dominus Cachanaii…"[314]. It is clear that "Jean seigneur de Chacenay" could not have been one of Agnes’s children by her first marriage. One possible explanation of the charter is therefore that he was Agnes’s second husband, enjoying the title by right of his wife. The testament of "Agnes…domina Cacenaii", dated to [1191] and made "coram…filiarum mearum M[argareta] domina Chanlotis et H. domina de Durnai", bequeathed land "apud Lusigniacum et apud Montem Susanum", previously held by "Jacobus filius domini Erardi Cacensi", to "filie mee M[argarete] domine Chanlotis", and property "apud Taneileres" to "filie domini H[ugonis] Vendopere" by charter dated to [1191][315]."
Med Lands cites:
[307] Molesme, Tome II, 259, p. 241.
[308] Jully-les-Nonnains 1137, p. 13.
[309] Basse-Fontaine 95, p. 122.
[310] Mores, p. 45.
[311] Basse-Fontaine 95, p. 122.
[312] Yonne, Tome II, 234, p. 251.
[313] Mores, p. 51.
[314] Basse-Fontaine 89, p. 115.
[315] Montiéramey 90, p. 120.2


; Per Genealogy.EU: "E6. [1m. or 2m.] Agnes de Brienne, +after 1191; 1m: before 1138 Jacques, Sire de Chacenay; 2m: Jean de Salmaise, Sire de Chacenay."1

; Per Racines et Histoire: "1ou2 ?) Agnès de Brienne ° ~1125 + après 1191
     ép. 1) ~ 1138 Jacques de Chacenay + 1158
     ép. 2) Jean de Mont-SaintJean, seigneur de Salmaise + 1183."4

Citations

  1. [S1438] Miroslav Marek, online http://genealogy.euweb.cz/index.html, unknown author (e-mail address), downloaded updated 15 May 2003, Brienne 1 page (de Brienne Family): http://genealogy.euweb.cz/brienne/brienne1.html
  2. [S2203] Foundation for Medieval Genealogy (FMG): MEDIEVAL LANDS - A prosopography of medieval European noble and royal families, online http://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/index.htm, https://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/chambarsein.htm#JacquesChacenaydied1158B. Hereinafter cited as FMG Medieval Lands Website.
  3. [S2203] FMG Medieval Lands Website, online http://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/index.htm, https://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/chambarsein.htm#AnsericIIChacenaydied1137
  4. [S2280] Racines et Histoire, online http://racineshistoire.free.fr/LGN/LGN-frameset.html, Maison de Brienne, p. 4: http://racineshistoire.free.fr/LGN/PDF/Brienne.pdf. Hereinafter cited as Racines et Histoire.
  5. [S2203] FMG Medieval Lands Website, online http://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/index.htm, https://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/chambarsein.htm#ErardIIChacenayMMathildeDonzy