Baldwin de Redvers 4th Earl of Devon1

M, #55711, d. May 1188
FatherRichard de Redvers 3rd Earl of Devon1 d. 1162
MotherDionysia de Dunstanville1
Last Edited10 May 2009
     Baldwin de Redvers 4th Earl of Devon died in May 1188; dsp.1,2 He married Denise de Deols Dame de Deols et Chateauroux, daughter of Raoul VII de Deols Prince de Déols, Sire de Châteauroux and Agnes de Charenton Dame de Meillent,
; her 1st husband.3
      ; Leo van de Pas cites: Europäische Stammtafeln, J.A. Stargardt Verlag Marburg., Detlev Schwennicke, Editor, Reference: XIV 68.2 Baldwin de Redvers 4th Earl of Devon was also known as Baldwin de Reviers 4th Earl of Devon.2

Citations

  1. [S1429] Unknown compiler, Notable British Families 1600s-1900s from Burke's Peerage., CD-ROM (n.p.: Broderbund Software Company, 1999), Notable British Families, Burke's "Dormant, Abeyant, Forfeited, and Extinct Peerages" (Gen. Pub. Co., Baltimore, 1985 reprint of 1883 edition), Courtenay- Barons Courtenay, Earls of Devon, p. 140. Hereinafter cited as Notable British Families CD # 367.
  2. [S1490] Genealogics Website (oiginated by Leo van de Pas, continued by Ian Fettes), online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Baldwin de Reviers: http://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00197155&tree=LEO. Hereinafter cited as Genealogics Website.
  3. [S1490] Genealogics Website, online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Denise de Deols: http://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00164587&tree=LEO

Richard de Redvers 5th Earl of Devon1

M, #55712
FatherRichard de Redvers 3rd Earl of Devon1 d. 1162
MotherDionysia de Dunstanville1
Last Edited11 May 2003
     Richard de Redvers 5th Earl of Devon died; dsp.1

Citations

  1. [S1429] Unknown compiler, Notable British Families 1600s-1900s from Burke's Peerage., CD-ROM (n.p.: Broderbund Software Company, 1999), Notable British Families, Burke's "Dormant, Abeyant, Forfeited, and Extinct Peerages" (Gen. Pub. Co., Baltimore, 1985 reprint of 1883 edition), Courtenay- Barons Courtenay, Earls of Devon, p. 140. Hereinafter cited as Notable British Families CD # 367.

Baldwin de Vernon1

M, #55713, d. 1 September 1216
FatherWilliam de Vernon 5th/6th Earl of Devon1 b. 1155, d. Sep 1217
MotherMaud (Mabel or Mabirie) de Beaumont1 d. a 1 May 1204
Last Edited11 May 2003
     Baldwin de Vernon married Margaret Fitzgerald, daughter of Warine Fitzgerald.1

Baldwin de Vernon died on 1 September 1216; dvp.1
      ; "Baldwin, who m. Margaret, dau. and heiress of Warine Fitzgerald, and d. v. p. 1 September, 1216, leaving an only son, Baldwin, of whom presently, as 7th Earl of Devon. Margaret, the widow, was forced, according to Matthew Paris, by King John, to marry "that impious, ignoble, and base conditioned man, Falk de Breant."1

Citations

  1. [S1429] Unknown compiler, Notable British Families 1600s-1900s from Burke's Peerage., CD-ROM (n.p.: Broderbund Software Company, 1999), Notable British Families, Burke's "Dormant, Abeyant, Forfeited, and Extinct Peerages" (Gen. Pub. Co., Baltimore, 1985 reprint of 1883 edition), Courtenay- Barons Courtenay, Earls of Devon, p. 140. Hereinafter cited as Notable British Families CD # 367.

Margaret Fitzgerald1

F, #55714
FatherWarine Fitzgerald1
Last Edited11 May 2003
     Margaret Fitzgerald married Baldwin de Vernon, son of William de Vernon 5th/6th Earl of Devon and Maud (Mabel or Mabirie) de Beaumont.1
Margaret Fitzgerald married Falk de Breant
; her 2nd husband.1

Family 1

Falk de Breant

Family 2

Baldwin de Vernon d. 1 Sep 1216
Child

Citations

  1. [S1429] Unknown compiler, Notable British Families 1600s-1900s from Burke's Peerage., CD-ROM (n.p.: Broderbund Software Company, 1999), Notable British Families, Burke's "Dormant, Abeyant, Forfeited, and Extinct Peerages" (Gen. Pub. Co., Baltimore, 1985 reprint of 1883 edition), Courtenay- Barons Courtenay, Earls of Devon, p. 140. Hereinafter cited as Notable British Families CD # 367.

Warine Fitzgerald1

M, #55715
Last Edited11 May 2003

Family

Child

Citations

  1. [S1429] Unknown compiler, Notable British Families 1600s-1900s from Burke's Peerage., CD-ROM (n.p.: Broderbund Software Company, 1999), Notable British Families, Burke's "Dormant, Abeyant, Forfeited, and Extinct Peerages" (Gen. Pub. Co., Baltimore, 1985 reprint of 1883 edition), Courtenay- Barons Courtenay, Earls of Devon, p. 140. Hereinafter cited as Notable British Families CD # 367.

John Crichton of Crichton1

M, #55716
FatherSir William de Crichton1,2
MotherMargaret (?)3
Last Edited26 Apr 2018
     John Crichton of Crichton married Christian (?)4

     Reference: van de Pas cites:
     1. The Complete Peerage, 1936 , Doubleday, H.A. & Lord Howard de Walden. III 537
     2. Burke's Genealogical and Heraldic History of the Peerage, Baronetage and Knightage, London, 1938. 952.4

Family

Christian (?)
Child

Citations

  1. [S1429] Unknown compiler, Notable British Families 1600s-1900s from Burke's Peerage., CD-ROM (n.p.: Broderbund Software Company, 1999), Notable British Families, Burke's "Dormant, Abeyant, Forfeited, and Extinct Peerages" (Gen. Pub. Co., Baltimore, 1985 reprint of 1883 edition), Crichton - Viscount of Frendraught, p. 145. Hereinafter cited as Notable British Families CD # 367.
  2. [S1490] Genealogics Website (oiginated by Leo van de Pas, continued by Ian Fettes), online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Sir William de Crichton: http://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00269418&tree=LEO. Hereinafter cited as Genealogics Website.
  3. [S1490] Genealogics Website, online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Margaret: http://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00269419&tree=LEO
  4. [S1490] Genealogics Website, online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Sir John Crichton, of Chrichton: http://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00177793&tree=LEO

Baldwin de Reviers 8th Earl of Devon1

M, #55718, b. 1 January 1235, d. before 13 September 1262
FatherBaldwin de Reviers 7th Earl of Devon1 d. 1245
MotherAmicia de Clare1,2 b. 27 May 1220, d. b 21 Jan 1284
Last Edited15 Dec 2019
     Baldwin de Reviers 8th Earl of Devon was born on 1 January 1235.3 He married Margaret/Avoie (?) de Savoie, daughter of Tommaso II (?) Count of Savoy, Aosta and Moriana, Signore del Piemonte, Marchese di Torino e Ivrea, Ct of Flanders and Hainaut, Vicario imperiale del Piemonte, Principe di Capua and Beatrice Fiesco, in 1257
; Genealogy.EU says m. 1237; Genealogics says m. 1257; Wikipedia says m. 1257; Med Lands says m. 1257.4,3,5,6,7
Baldwin de Reviers 8th Earl of Devon died before 13 September 1262 at France; poisoned; Savoy 1 page says d. 13.11.1261.1,4,3
     Reference: Genealogics cites: The Complete Peerage, 1936 , Doubleday, H.A. & Lord Howard de Walden, Reference: IV 319.3

; See entry on Med Lands and discussion of the parents of his wife.7

Family

Margaret/Avoie (?) de Savoie d. bt 15 Feb 1285 - 1286

Citations

  1. [S1429] Unknown compiler, Notable British Families 1600s-1900s from Burke's Peerage., CD-ROM (n.p.: Broderbund Software Company, 1999), Notable British Families, Burke's "Dormant, Abeyant, Forfeited, and Extinct Peerages" (Gen. Pub. Co., Baltimore, 1985 reprint of 1883 edition), Courtenay- Barons Courtenay, Earls of Devon, p. 140. Hereinafter cited as Notable British Families CD # 367.
  2. [S1490] Genealogics Website (oiginated by Leo van de Pas, continued by Ian Fettes), online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Amicia de Clare: http://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00027611&tree=LEO. Hereinafter cited as Genealogics Website.
  3. [S1490] Genealogics Website, online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Baldwin de Reviers: http://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00478360&tree=LEO
  4. [S1438] Miroslav Marek, online http://genealogy.euweb.cz/index.html, unknown author (e-mail address), downloaded updated 15 May 2003, Savoy 1 page - The House of Savoy: http://genealogy.euweb.cz/savoy/savoy1.html
  5. [S1490] Genealogics Website, online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Margaret de Savoie: http://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00478361&tree=LEO
  6. [S1953] Wikipedia: The Free Encyclopedia, online http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Main_Page, https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Baldwin_de_Redvers,_7th_Earl_of_Devon. Hereinafter cited as Wikipedia.
  7. [S2203] Foundation for Medieval Genealogy (FMG): MEDIEVAL LANDS - A prosopography of medieval European noble and royal families, online http://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/index.htm, http://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/ENGLISH%20NOBILITY%20MEDIEVAL1.htm#BaldwinDevondied1262. Hereinafter cited as FMG Medieval Lands Website.

Margaret de Reviers1

F, #55719
FatherBaldwin de Reviers 7th Earl of Devon1 d. 1245
MotherAmicia de Clare1 b. 27 May 1220, d. b 21 Jan 1284
Last Edited11 May 2003
      ; a nun at Lacock.1

Citations

  1. [S1429] Unknown compiler, Notable British Families 1600s-1900s from Burke's Peerage., CD-ROM (n.p.: Broderbund Software Company, 1999), Notable British Families, Burke's "Dormant, Abeyant, Forfeited, and Extinct Peerages" (Gen. Pub. Co., Baltimore, 1985 reprint of 1883 edition), Courtenay- Barons Courtenay, Earls of Devon, p. 140. Hereinafter cited as Notable British Families CD # 367.

Isabel de Reviers Countess of Devon1,2

F, #55720, b. July 1237, d. 10 November 1293
FatherBaldwin de Reviers 7th Earl of Devon1,2 d. 1245
MotherAmicia de Clare1,3,2 b. 27 May 1220, d. b 21 Jan 1284
Last Edited22 Jun 2020
     Isabel de Reviers Countess of Devon was born in July 1237.4,2 She married William III de Forz Lord of Holderness, Earl of Albemarle, Comte d'Aumale, son of William II de Forz Comte d'Aumale, lord of Holderness and Skipton and Aveline de Montfichet, between 1248 and 1249
; his 2nd wife.1,5,4,2
Isabel de Reviers Countess of Devon died on 10 November 1293 at Stockwell, co. Surrey, England, at age 56.1,4,2
     ; Per Racines et Histoire (Aumale & Forz): “ William (Guillaume) de Forz + 23/05/1260 Lord of Holderness, comte titulaire d’Aumale
     ép. 1) avant 04/1236 Christian of Galloway + peu avant 29/07/1246 (fille d’Alan, Lord of Galloway, et de Margaret of Scotland)
     ép. 2) 1248/49 Isabel de Reviers ° 07/1237 + 10/11/1293 (Stockwell, Surrey) (fille de Baldwin de Reviers, earl of Devon, et dAmicie de Clare)”.6

Family

William III de Forz Lord of Holderness, Earl of Albemarle, Comte d'Aumale d. 23 May 1260
Children

Citations

  1. [S1429] Unknown compiler, Notable British Families 1600s-1900s from Burke's Peerage., CD-ROM (n.p.: Broderbund Software Company, 1999), Notable British Families, Burke's "Dormant, Abeyant, Forfeited, and Extinct Peerages" (Gen. Pub. Co., Baltimore, 1985 reprint of 1883 edition), Courtenay- Barons Courtenay, Earls of Devon, p. 140. Hereinafter cited as Notable British Families CD # 367.
  2. [S2280] Racines et Histoire, online http://racineshistoire.free.fr/LGN/LGN-frameset.html, http://racineshistoire.free.fr/LGN/PDF/Aumale.pdf, p. 4. Hereinafter cited as Racines et Histoire.
  3. [S1490] Genealogics Website (oiginated by Leo van de Pas, continued by Ian Fettes), online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Amicia de Clare: http://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00027611&tree=LEO. Hereinafter cited as Genealogics Website.
  4. [S1784] Douglas Richardson, "Richardson email 29 July 2005 "Re: Descendants of Sir Richard de Lucy and Rohese of Boulogne"," e-mail message from e-mail address (https://groups.google.com/g/soc.genealogy.medieval/c/F9_d7JZUuk0/m/5jgR9n064yQJ) to e-mail address, 29 July 2005. Hereinafter cited as "Richardson email 29 July 2005."
  5. [S1490] Genealogics Website, online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, William de Forz: http://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00385641&tree=LEO
  6. [S2280] Racines et Histoire, online http://racineshistoire.free.fr/LGN/LGN-frameset.html, Seigneurs puis comtes d’ Aumale & Aumale (Picardie), p. 4: http://racineshistoire.free.fr/LGN/PDF/Aumale.pdf
  7. [S1490] Genealogics Website, online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Aveline de Forz: https://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00106031&tree=LEO
  8. [S2203] Foundation for Medieval Genealogy (FMG): MEDIEVAL LANDS - A prosopography of medieval European noble and royal families, online http://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/index.htm, https://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/enguntdk.htm#AvelineForzdied1274. Hereinafter cited as FMG Medieval Lands Website.

Anne de Fortibus1

F, #55721
FatherWilliam III de Forz Lord of Holderness, Earl of Albemarle, Comte d'Aumale1 d. 23 May 1260
MotherIsabel de Reviers Countess of Devon1 b. Jul 1237, d. 10 Nov 1293
Last Edited11 May 2003
     Anne de Fortibus died; died unmarried.1

Citations

  1. [S1429] Unknown compiler, Notable British Families 1600s-1900s from Burke's Peerage., CD-ROM (n.p.: Broderbund Software Company, 1999), Notable British Families, Burke's "Dormant, Abeyant, Forfeited, and Extinct Peerages" (Gen. Pub. Co., Baltimore, 1985 reprint of 1883 edition), Courtenay- Barons Courtenay, Earls of Devon, p. 140. Hereinafter cited as Notable British Families CD # 367.

John de Courtenay1

M, #55722
FatherSir Hugh de Courtenay 1st Lord Courtenay, 1st Earl of Devon1 b. c 1272, d. 23 Dec 1340
MotherAgnes de St. John1 b. c 1272, d. 11 Jun 1345
Last Edited11 May 2003
      ; abbot of Tavistock.1

Citations

  1. [S1429] Unknown compiler, Notable British Families 1600s-1900s from Burke's Peerage., CD-ROM (n.p.: Broderbund Software Company, 1999), Notable British Families, Burke's "Dormant, Abeyant, Forfeited, and Extinct Peerages" (Gen. Pub. Co., Baltimore, 1985 reprint of 1883 edition), Courtenay- Barons Courtenay, Earls of Devon, p. 140. Hereinafter cited as Notable British Families CD # 367.

Robert de Courtenay1,2

M, #55723
FatherSir Hugh de Courtenay 1st Lord Courtenay, 1st Earl of Devon2 b. c 1272, d. 23 Dec 1340
MotherAgnes de St. John2 b. c 1272, d. 11 Jun 1345
Last Edited11 May 2003
     Robert de Courtenay died; died young.2

Citations

  1. Of MOreton.
  2. [S1429] Unknown compiler, Notable British Families 1600s-1900s from Burke's Peerage., CD-ROM (n.p.: Broderbund Software Company, 1999), Notable British Families, Burke's "Dormant, Abeyant, Forfeited, and Extinct Peerages" (Gen. Pub. Co., Baltimore, 1985 reprint of 1883 edition), Courtenay- Barons Courtenay, Earls of Devon, p. 140. Hereinafter cited as Notable British Families CD # 367.

William Hughes Handy

M, #55724
FatherJohn Handy; BJJIR@aol.com wrote:
This is amazing! William Hughes Handey is a son of John Handey and Guinny Hughes. His children cames to Alabama. Armistead Thomson Mason Handey is our direct descendant. He was a Baptist Missionary Minister and recorded in his Bible. Capt. William Carlisle and Mary Rutter were married 25th of April 1737.

Mary Carlisle was married to Capt. John Handey 9th July 1757.

John Handey and Guinny Hughes were married 31st of March, 1785.

William Hughes Handey and Eleanor Megeath were married on Thursday evening, 29th January

Betty Jo Handey Ritchie
MotherGwen Hughes
Last Edited13 May 2003
     William Hughes Handy married Eleanor Megeath
; BJJIR@aol.com wrote:
This is amazing! William Hughes Handey is a son of John Handey and Guinny Hughes. His children cames to Alabama. Armistead Thomson Mason Handey is our direct descendant. He was a Baptist Missionary Minister and recorded in his Bible. Capt. William Carlisle and Mary Rutter were married 25th of April 1737.

Mary Carlisle was married to Capt. John Handey 9th July 1757.

John Handey and Guinny Hughes were married 31st of March, 1785.

William Hughes Handey and Eleanor Megeath were married on Thursday evening, 29th January

Betty Jo Handey Ritchie.

Family

Eleanor Megeath

Lucretia Fuclelia Howard

F, #55728, b. 18 March 1842, d. 22 April 1842
FatherWilliam Pruit Howard b. 10 Nov 1822, d. 24 Aug 1870
MotherMartha Brockway b. Nov 1822
Last Edited13 May 2003
     Lucretia Fuclelia Howard was born on 18 March 1842 at New York, USA.
Lucretia Fuclelia Howard died on 22 April 1842 at New York, USA.
      ; Name: Teri Johnson
Email: rdjtaj@hotmail.com
He had one other child not listed;
Lucretia Fuclelia Howard
b. March 18 1842 NY.
d. April 22 1842 NY.
This comes from a page out of Mary Elizabeth Howard Elwood's family bible, of which there are 3 pages all together.
Mary Elizabeth Howard married Oct. 10 1861 in Iowa
+ Azariah Sinclair Elwood,
They lived in Monroe, Fairview Township, Jasper County, Iowa. Then moved to Golden, Colorado, then Denver, Colorado. Azariah was an Assistant Surgeon in the civil war, 40th Iowa Volunteer Infantry, Company E.
I knew Mary and Azariah's son, William Henry Elwood, and when he died in 1961, my family saw to his burial. He was our much loved, honorary "Uncle Will".
I have a billfold that belonged to William Pruit Howard, and in it was a note written by his grandson, William Henry Elwood. It says the billfold had belonged to his grandfather, Judge William P. Howard, during the civil war.
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
I have a picture of William Pruit Howard, his wife Martha N. Brockway, their daughter Mary Elizabeth Howard Elwood and her family, and more. All can be e-mailed.

Isabel de Harcla1

F, #55729, d. circa 1342
FatherMichael de Harcla1 d. b 1309
MotherJoan fitz John2
ReferenceGAV22
Last Edited3 Sep 2017
     Isabel de Harcla married Sir Richard de Vernon Sr., son of Gilbert le Fraunceys and Hawise de Vernon, circa 1278.3,2

Isabel de Harcla died circa 1342; "his widow surviving to 1342."1
     GAV-22 GKJ-22.

; per Potter email: [quote] Isabel daughter of Michael de Harcla was wife of Richard de Vernon senior who was also known as Richard le Franceys. Richard was dead by 1329 when Isabel sued William de Vernon for a third part of two parts of two messuages and a moiety of Netherhaddon [_Staffordshire Historical Collections_, Vol.9, p.9]. Isabel was still living by 1342 when there is an interesting entry in the Register of John Kirkby, Bishop of Carlisle:

"It is good to give testimony in the business of the needy. At the time of writing, the noble matron Isabel de Vernon was sane and in perfect physical health, as could clearly be seen in her manor of Mauld's Meaburn, where she lived. These letters are written in case anyone might make an assertion to the contrary." [R.Storey (ed.), _The Register of John Kirkby, Bishop of Carlisle, 1332-1352,_ (Canterbury and York Society, 1993), p.41]

The eldest son of Richard and Isabel was another Richard. His first wife was Eleanor de Frenes, but then by Feb 1312/3 he was re-married to Matilda de Camville daughter of William Camville. I can identify three children, William, Isabel and Matilda, before Richard died in Feb 1322/3.

Upon the subsequent death of his grandfather, William inherited his grandfather's estates (or at least those which were not held in dower by his mother and grandmother). His wife was a Joan whose surname I have not yet identified. [_Staffordshire Historical Collections_, Vol.12, p.58]

His sister Isabel married Richard de Stafford as stated before in this thread, but she was therefore the daughter of Richard de Vernon and Matilda de Camville, and grandaughter of Richard de Vernon and Isabel de Harcla. Again no connection to the Vescy family.

Their other sister, Matilda, received a grant from her mother in 12 Edward III (1338/9) of £20 yearly from the rents of her tenement in Haunton, Staffordshire [BL, Harl MS. 2074, f.34]. I suspect that this Matilda may then have married William son of Hugh de Venables of Cheshire.

BL Harl MS 2077, f.37 gives summaries of the following two charters:

1/ Covenant of marriage that William son of Sir Hugh Venables should marry Maude the daughter of Maude Vernon and of Richard Vernon. Dated 16 Edward III

2/ Maud who was wife of Richard de Vernon grants to Maude her daughter wife of William de Venables and her heirs an annual rent of £20 silver from the lands and tenements which were of John de Cave in Hamtton. Dated 23 Edward III.

I suspect that Hamtton was actually a misreading by the original copier of Haunton. Haunton was part of the Camville land held by Matilda de Vernon (nee Camville) in the 1327 Lay Subsidy, and so looks like this Vernon/Venables marriage was actually of the Haddon Vernons rather than the Shipbrook Vernons. [end quote]3

; I'm afraid this Juliana de Vescy should really be jettisoned from genealogies- she seems to first appear at the top (ie unreliable) end of a visitation, and was given extra life by Burke's et al. for a few centuries; but she can't have been the child of those parents, or her descendants would have inherited the Vesci lands that instead passed to the Aton family. The latest (and final paper) edition of Burke's peerage (2003) has a much improved Vernon pedigree, and Juliana no longer appears. Her place is (correctly) taken by Isabel, daughter of Michael de Harcla (Hartcla, Harclay) (sheriff of Cumberland 1285-98, dead by 1309, married Joan dau William Fitzjohn -ODNB), and sister of Andrew, (briefly) Earl of Carlisle.2

Family

Sir Richard de Vernon Sr. b. c 1263, d. b 1331
Child

Citations

  1. [S1436] Todd A. Farmerie, "Farmerie email "Re: (Repeat) Is there a line from Eustace Vesci?"," e-mail message from e-mail address (unknown address) to e-mail address, 11 May 2003. Hereinafter cited as "Farmerie email 11 May 2003."
  2. [S1940] Matthew Connolly, "Connolly email 29 Aug 2005: "Re: Juliana of Vescy or of Alnwick - better birth range"," e-mail message from e-mail address (unknown address) to e-mail address, 29 Aug 2005. Hereinafter cited as "Connolly email 29 Aug 2005."
  3. [S1941] Luke Potter, "Potter email 30 Aug 2005: "Re: Juliana of Vescy or of Alnwick - better birth range"," e-mail message from e-mail address (unknown address) to e-mail address, 30 Aug 2005. Hereinafter cited as "Potter email 30 Aug 2005."

Michael de Harcla1

M, #55730, d. before 1309
Father(?) de Harcla2
ReferenceGAV23
Last Edited3 Sep 2017
     Michael de Harcla married Joan fitz John, daughter of William fitz John.

Michael de Harcla died before 1309.3
     GAV-23. He was Sheriff of Cumberland between 1285 and 1298.3

Family

Joan fitz John
Child

Citations

  1. [S1436] Todd A. Farmerie, "Farmerie email "Re: (Repeat) Is there a line from Eustace Vesci?"," e-mail message from e-mail address (unknown address) to e-mail address, 11 May 2003. Hereinafter cited as "Farmerie email 11 May 2003."
  2. [S2144] Tim Cartmell, "Cartmell email 25 Mar 2007: "Sir Michael de Harcla of Hartley in Westmorland"," e-mail message from e-mail address (unknown address) to e-mail address, 25 Mar 2007. Hereinafter cited as "Cartmell email 25 Mar 2007."
  3. [S1940] Matthew Connolly, "Connolly email 29 Aug 2005: "Re: Juliana of Vescy or of Alnwick - better birth range"," e-mail message from e-mail address (unknown address) to e-mail address, 29 Aug 2005. Hereinafter cited as "Connolly email 29 Aug 2005."

Gerald Fitz Maurice 5th Earl of Kildare1,2,3

M, #55731
FatherThomas FitzJohn Fitz Gerald 2nd Earl of Kildare2 d. 9 Apr 1328
MotherLady Joan de Burgh2 d. 22 Apr 1359
Last Edited8 Aug 2008
     Gerald Fitz Maurice 5th Earl of Kildare married Agnes Darcy, daughter of Philip Darcy 4th Lord Darcy of Knayth and Elizabeth Gray.2

Family

Agnes Darcy
Child

Citations

  1. Thomas Fitz John (1) = Joan de Burgh (2nd) = John Darcy lst Lord Darcy

    Maurice Fitz Thomas lst degree Elizabeth Darcy
    * =James Butler
    * *
    Gerald Fitz Maurice 2nd degree James Butler
    * *
    Elizabeth Fitz Maurice 3rd degree James Butler.
  2. [S1437] Douglas Richardson, "Richardson email "Maud de Roos, wife of John de Welle(s), 3rd Lord Welles"," e-mail message from e-mail address (unknown address) to e-mail address, 11 May 2003. Hereinafter cited as "Richardson email 11 May 2003."
  3. [S2261] Douglas Richardson, Plantagenet Ancestry: A Study in Colonial and Medieval Families, 1st edition (n.p.: Genealogical Publishing Company, Inc., 2004), Butler 12: p. 178. Hereinafter cited as Richardson PA.

Agnes Darcy1,2

F, #55732
FatherPhilip Darcy 4th Lord Darcy of Knayth b. 21 May 1352, d. 24 Apr 1399; J.W. Clay's Extinct and Dormant Peerages (1913), pp. 41-42 shows that Philip Darcy, 3rd Lord Darcy (b. ca. 1352, died 1399) above had a daughter named Agnes. She is not mentioned in her father's will dated 1399 but, according to Clay, she is mentioned in the will of her mother dated in 1411. If this identification is correct, it would provide a new addition to Complete Peerage sub Kildare. Presumably Agnes was not in her father's will in 1399, as she was already married and provisions had already been made for her. Clay does not identify this Agnes Darcy's marriage.3,2
MotherElizabeth Gray4 b. c 1352, d. 11 Aug 1412
Last Edited8 Aug 2008

Citations

  1. [S1437] Douglas Richardson, "Richardson email "Maud de Roos, wife of John de Welle(s), 3rd Lord Welles"," e-mail message from e-mail address (unknown address) to e-mail address, 11 May 2003. Hereinafter cited as "Richardson email 11 May 2003."
  2. [S2261] Douglas Richardson, Plantagenet Ancestry: A Study in Colonial and Medieval Families, 1st edition (n.p.: Genealogical Publishing Company, Inc., 2004), Butler 12: p. 178. Hereinafter cited as Richardson PA.
  3. [S1437] Douglas Richardson, "Richardson email 11 May 2003," e-mail to e-mail address, 11 May 2003, I suggested in my post that Elizabeth Fitz Gerald's mother, Agnes Darcy, was the daughter of Sir Philip Darcy, Lord Darcy, by his wife, Elizabeth, daughter of Sir Thomas Gray...Since making my post, I've located a short article on the Botiller/Butler family in Miscellanea Genealogica et Heraldica 5th series, vol. 8 (1932-1934): 229-231. In a pedigree chart on pg. 231, the author identifies Agnes Darcy as the daughter of Sir Philip Darcy, Lord Darcy.
  4. [S1437] Douglas Richardson, "Richardson email 11 May 2003," e-mail to e-mail address, 11 May 2003, I suggested in my post that Elizabeth Fitz Gerald's mother, Agnes Darcy, was the daughter of Sir Philip Darcy, Lord Darcy, by his wife, Elizabeth, daughter of Sir Thomas Gray.

Stephen Crichton of Cairns1

M, #55733
FatherSir William de Crichton2
MotherMargaret (?)3
Last Edited26 Apr 2018

Citations

  1. [S1429] Unknown compiler, Notable British Families 1600s-1900s from Burke's Peerage., CD-ROM (n.p.: Broderbund Software Company, 1999), Notable British Families, Burke's "Dormant, Abeyant, Forfeited, and Extinct Peerages" (Gen. Pub. Co., Baltimore, 1985 reprint of 1883 edition), Crichton - Earl of Caithness, p. 145. Hereinafter cited as Notable British Families CD # 367.
  2. [S1429] Notable British Families, Notable British Families CD # 367, Burke's "Dormant, Abeyant, Forfeited, and Extinct Peerages" (Gen. Pub. Co., Baltimore, 1985 reprint of 1883 edition), Crichton - Viscount of Frendraught, p. 145.
  3. [S1490] Genealogics Website (oiginated by Leo van de Pas, continued by Ian Fettes), online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Margaret: http://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00269419&tree=LEO. Hereinafter cited as Genealogics Website.

Agnes (?)1

F, #55734
Last Edited19 Oct 2020

Citations

  1. [S1429] Unknown compiler, Notable British Families 1600s-1900s from Burke's Peerage., CD-ROM (n.p.: Broderbund Software Company, 1999), Notable British Families, Burke's "Dormant, Abeyant, Forfeited, and Extinct Peerages" (Gen. Pub. Co., Baltimore, 1985 reprint of 1883 edition), Crichton - Viscount of Frendraught, p. 145. Hereinafter cited as Notable British Families CD # 367.
  2. [S1490] Genealogics Website (oiginated by Leo van de Pas, continued by Ian Fettes), online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, William Crichton: http://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00177795&tree=LEO. Hereinafter cited as Genealogics Website.
  3. [S1490] Genealogics Website, online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Elizabeth Crichton: http://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00027215&tree=LEO
  4. [S1490] Genealogics Website, online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, James Crichton: http://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00177797&tree=LEO

Lady Johanna/Janet Keith1,2,3

F, #55735
FatherWilliam Keith 3rd Earl Marischal of Scotland3 d. 7 Oct 1581
MotherMargaret Keith of Inverugie3 b. c 1518
Last Edited4 Jul 2006
     Lady Johanna/Janet Keith married Sir James Crichton of Frendraught, son of William Crichton of Frendraught and Agnes Abernethy.2

      ; per Burke's Extinct Peerage: "6th dau. of William, 4th Earl Marischal". However, Burke's Peerages (Keith, Earls of Kintore) says that 4th Earl Marischal was George Keith, son of William (called "Lord Keith", but not Earl Marischal.)2,4

Citations

  1. Johanna per Burke's; Janet per van de Pas.
  2. [S1429] Unknown compiler, Notable British Families 1600s-1900s from Burke's Peerage., CD-ROM (n.p.: Broderbund Software Company, 1999), Notable British Families, Burke's "Dormant, Abeyant, Forfeited, and Extinct Peerages" (Gen. Pub. Co., Baltimore, 1985 reprint of 1883 edition), Crichton - Viscount of Frendraught, p. 145. Hereinafter cited as Notable British Families CD # 367.
  3. [S1490] Genealogics Website (oiginated by Leo van de Pas, continued by Ian Fettes), online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Lady Janet Keith: http://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00086965&tree=LEO. Hereinafter cited as Genealogics Website.
  4. [S1396] Burke's Peerage & Gentry Web Site, online http://www.burkes-peerage.net/sites/peerageandgentry/sitepages/home.asp, Keith Earls of Kintore Family Page. Hereinafter cited as Burke's Peerage & Gentry Web Site.

William Cromwell1

M, #55736
Last Edited14 May 2003
      ; a blacksmith at Putney.1

Citations

  1. [S1429] Unknown compiler, Notable British Families 1600s-1900s from Burke's Peerage., CD-ROM (n.p.: Broderbund Software Company, 1999), Notable British Families, Burke's "Dormant, Abeyant, Forfeited, and Extinct Peerages" (Gen. Pub. Co., Baltimore, 1985 reprint of 1883 edition), Cromwell - Baron Cromwell of Okeham, co. Rutland, Earl of Essex, p. 146. Hereinafter cited as Notable British Families CD # 367.

Joane Grey1,2

F, #55737, b. circa 20 July 1386, d. 20 November 1408
FatherRobert de Grey Knt., 5th Lord Grey of Rotherfield1,3
MotherElizabeth de la Plaunche b. c 1347, d. a 1 Sep 1423
Last Edited1 Oct 2019
     Joane Grey was born circa 20 July 1386 at Rotherfield, Oxfordshire, England.2 She married John Deincourt 5th Lord Deincourt, 12th Lord d'Eyncourt, son of William Deincourt 3rd Lord Deincourt, 10th Lord d'Eyncourt and Alice de Neville, before 17 February 1401.1,2

Joane Grey died on 20 November 1408.2
      ; Leo van de Pas cites: The Complete Peerage, 1936 , Doubleday, H.A. & Lord Howard de Walden, Reference: IV 124.2

; "dau. and heiress of Robert, Lord Grey, of Rotherfield and co-heiress of her brother, William, Lord Deincourt."1

Citations

  1. [S1429] Unknown compiler, Notable British Families 1600s-1900s from Burke's Peerage., CD-ROM (n.p.: Broderbund Software Company, 1999), Notable British Families, Burke's "Dormant, Abeyant, Forfeited, and Extinct Peerages" (Gen. Pub. Co., Baltimore, 1985 reprint of 1883 edition), Cromwell - Barons Cromwell of Tatshall, co. Lincoln, p. 147. Hereinafter cited as Notable British Families CD # 367.
  2. [S1490] Genealogics Website (oiginated by Leo van de Pas, continued by Ian Fettes), online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Joan Grey: http://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00388286&tree=LEO. Hereinafter cited as Genealogics Website.
  3. [S1429] Notable British Families, Notable British Families CD # 367, Burke's "Dormant, Abeyant, Forfeited, and Extinct Peerages" (Gen. Pub. Co., Baltimore, 1985 reprint of 1883 edition), D'Eyncourt - Barons D'Eyncourt, p. 170.
  4. [S1490] Genealogics Website, online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, William Deincourt, of Duston: https://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00161615&tree=LEO

Robert de Grey Knt., 5th Lord Grey of Rotherfield1,2,3

M, #55738
Last Edited23 Aug 2008
     Robert de Grey Knt., 5th Lord Grey of Rotherfield married Elizabeth de la Plaunche, daughter of William de la Plaunche of Haversham, Buckinghamshire and Elizabeth Hillary.4,5,3

Family

Elizabeth de la Plaunche b. c 1347, d. a 1 Sep 1423
Child

Citations

  1. [S1429] Unknown compiler, Notable British Families 1600s-1900s from Burke's Peerage., CD-ROM (n.p.: Broderbund Software Company, 1999), Notable British Families, Burke's "Dormant, Abeyant, Forfeited, and Extinct Peerages" (Gen. Pub. Co., Baltimore, 1985 reprint of 1883 edition), Cromwell - Barons Cromwell of Tatshall, co. Lincoln, p. 147. Hereinafter cited as Notable British Families CD # 367.
  2. [S1429] Notable British Families, Notable British Families CD # 367, Burke's "Dormant, Abeyant, Forfeited, and Extinct Peerages" (Gen. Pub. Co., Baltimore, 1985 reprint of 1883 edition), D'Eyncourt - Barons D'Eyncourt, p. 170.
  3. [S2261] Douglas Richardson, Plantagenet Ancestry: A Study in Colonial and Medieval Families, 1st edition (n.p.: Genealogical Publishing Company, Inc., 2004), Clinton 8: pp. 219-220. Hereinafter cited as Richardson PA.
  4. [S1396] Burke's Peerage & Gentry Web Site, online http://www.burkes-peerage.net/sites/peerageandgentry/sitepages/home.asp, Clinton (Bt) Family Page. Hereinafter cited as Burke's Peerage & Gentry Web Site.
  5. [S1490] Genealogics Website (oiginated by Leo van de Pas, continued by Ian Fettes), online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Elizabeth de La Plaunche: http://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I0101322&tree=LEO. Hereinafter cited as Genealogics Website.

Alexander Cuninghame 1st Lord Kilmaurs, 1st Earl of Glencairn1

M, #55739, d. circa 1 June 1488
Last Edited4 Feb 2006
     Alexander Cuninghame 1st Lord Kilmaurs, 1st Earl of Glencairn died circa 1 June 1488 at Stirling, Scotland; "A few days after [28 May 1488], a battle took place between the hostile parties near Stilring, where the royal army was defeated, and where the king and the newly-created earl were both slain."1
      ; per John Ravilious:

King James III of Scots faced a significant rebellion at the end of his reign, led by (or for) his son Prince James, subsequenty King James IV. One of the few noted supporters of the King in 1487/8 was Alexander Cunningham, Lord Kilmaurs, who in early 1488 led his own forces in helping to decide the battle of Blackness in favor of the King. Due to his faithful support, one of the last (if not the last) acts of the reign of James III was the elevation of Alexander Cunningham to the dignity of Earl of Glencairn on 28 May 1488. The account in SP provides details re: the charter:

" The words used are ' facimus et creamus eundem nostrum consanguineum Comitem in exaltationem sui honoris, perpetuis futuris temporibus Comitem de Glencairn et Dominum de Kilmauris nuncupandum.' " [1]

Ravilious cites: SP IV:234, cites Maidment's Reports, App. vi. 93.2 He was Lord Kilmaurs.2 Alexander Cuninghame 1st Lord Kilmaurs, 1st Earl of Glencairn was also known as Alexander Cunningham 1st Lord Kilmaurs, 1st Earl of Glencairn.2 He was Earl of Glencairn on 28 May 1488.2

Citations

  1. [S1429] Unknown compiler, Notable British Families 1600s-1900s from Burke's Peerage., CD-ROM (n.p.: Broderbund Software Company, 1999), Notable British Families, Burke's "Dormant, Abeyant, Forfeited, and Extinct Peerages" (Gen. Pub. Co., Baltimore, 1985 reprint of 1883 edition), Cunynghame - Lord Kilmaurs, and Earl of Glencairn, p. 150. Hereinafter cited as Notable British Families CD # 367.
  2. [S1855] John P. Ravilious, "Ravilious email 7 Jan 2005 "King James III and 'our cousin' Alexander, Earl of Glencairn"," e-mail message from e-mail address (unknown address) to e-mail address, 7 Jan 2005. Hereinafter cited as "Ravilious email 6 Jan 2005."

Alexander Cuninghame 5th Earl of Glencairn1

M, #55740, b. circa 1510, d. 23 December 1574
FatherWilliam Cuninghame 4th Earl of Glencairn1,2 d. 1547
MotherKatherine Borthwick1,3,2
Last Edited23 Apr 2018
     Alexander Cuninghame 5th Earl of Glencairn was born circa 1510 at Scotland.2 He married Johanna Hamilton, daughter of James Hamilton PC, 2nd Lord Hamilton, 1st Earl of Arran, circa 26 November 1526
; His 1st wife, later divorced.1,2 Alexander Cuninghame 5th Earl of Glencairn and Johanna Hamilton were divorced on 11 July 1545.2 Alexander Cuninghame 5th Earl of Glencairn married Janet Cunningham of Caprington, daughter of Sir John Cunningham of Caprington and Elizabeth Cuninghame, on 22 January 1550
; his 2nd wife, date is of contract or similar.1,2
Alexander Cuninghame 5th Earl of Glencairn died on 23 December 1574.1,2
      ;      per van de Pas: "Alexander Cunningham, 5th Earl of Glencairn, was born about 1510, son of William Cunningham, 4th Earl of Glencairn, and Katherine Borthwick. He was only sixteen when, circa 26 November 1526, he married Joan Hamilton, illegitimate daughter of the 1st Earl of Arran. As Lord Kilmaurs, he was, like his father, a supporter of the Reformed faith as early as 1540. In May 1544, with his father and the Earl of Lennox, he made an agreement with Henry VIII, King of England, which resulted in all three receiving substantial pensions from the English king.
     Shortly afterwards they were defeated by Regent Arran at the Battle of Glasgow, where Alexander's younger brother, Andrew, was killed. In September 1544 Alexander and his father declined to assist Lennox in his expedition to the west of Scotland. In 1545 he divorced his wife and married Janet Cunningham.
     In 1547 his father died and Alexander became Earl of Glencairn as well as one of the most fervent supporters of John Knox. He was one of the few nobles motivated purely by religious zeal. In 1555, after Knox's return to Scotland, Glencairn invited him to his house at Finlayston near Glasgow, where Knox preached and celebrated the Lord's supper. In March 1557 Glencairn's name appears as first of the four signatories on the letter sent to Knox, inviting him to return from Geneva. His signature also appears second, after the fourth Earl of Argyll, of the five on the first bond of the Scottish Reformers subscribed on 3 December 1557. In May 1559 when Marie de Guise, outraged by the destruction of the monasteries by the 'rascal multitude', attempted to march on Perth, Glencairn barred her way with 2,500 men.
     After the parliament of August 1560, Glencairn, Morton and Maitland of Lethington were sent as ambassadors to Queen Elizabeth to request her assistance against the French invaders and propose a marriage between her and the 3rd Earl of Arran. They obtained a favourable reply as the former was concerned, but the latter was flatteringly declined.
     In June 1561, Glencairn, Arran and the 5th Earl of Argyll were commissioned to carry out the edicts of the lords for the destruction of 'all places and monuments of idolatry' in the west. This resulted in the ruthless demolition of, among others, the abbeys of Paisley, Fulford, Kilwinning and Crossraguel.
     At the end of 1561, on the return of Mary, Queen of Scots, Glencairn was appointed Privy Councillor but was always intolerant of the queen's papal practices. In June 1565, with other Reformers, he vigorously opposed the Darnley marriage and joined Moray on the 'Chaseabout Raid'. In December he was declared guilty of the crime of lese majesty and then went to Berwick but was back in Scotland early the following year.
     He was in Edinburgh at the time of the Rizzio conspiracy but was not involved, and was one of the first of the lords to join Mary at Dunbar after the murder. Thereafter Glencairn became one of the queen's chief opponents. He had nothing to do with Darnley's murder, was not in Edinburgh on the night of the signing of the 'Ainslie Bond', and strongly disapproved of the Bothwell marriage. On 15 June 1567 at Carberry, he was one of the leaders of the army under Morton against the queen and Bothwell. A few days later, in an act of futile vandalism, he and his servants demolished the altar, ornaments and images of the Chapel Royal at Holyrood. On 29 July, after Mary's abdication, he carried the sword at the coronation of the infant king.
     In May 1568 Glencairn commanded one of the divisions against Mary at Langside. In September 1571 he was taken prisoner at Stirling on the night that Regent Lennox was killed, but was rescued soon afterwards. He frequently visited John Knox on his deathbed and on 24 November, the day of Knox's death, was nominated along with Morton as a candidate for regent but was substantially outvoted. Glencairn died on 23 November 1574.2

Reference: van de Pas cites:
     1. The Complete Peerage, 1936 , Doubleday, H.A. & Lord Howard de Walden. V 671
     2. Maria R, Mary Queen of Scots The Crucial Years Edinburgh, 1991, Hamilton, The Duke of. bio 139
     3. The Scots Peerage 1904-1914, nine volumes , Paul, Sir James Balfour. 4:239-41
     4. Burke's Peerage and Baronetage, 1999. 736.2

Family 1

Johanna Hamilton
Child

Citations

  1. [S1429] Unknown compiler, Notable British Families 1600s-1900s from Burke's Peerage., CD-ROM (n.p.: Broderbund Software Company, 1999), Notable British Families, Burke's "Dormant, Abeyant, Forfeited, and Extinct Peerages" (Gen. Pub. Co., Baltimore, 1985 reprint of 1883 edition), Cunynghame - Lord Kilmaurs, and Earl of Glencairn, p. 150. Hereinafter cited as Notable British Families CD # 367.
  2. [S1490] Genealogics Website (oiginated by Leo van de Pas, continued by Ian Fettes), online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Alexander Cunningham, 5th Earl of Glencairn 'the Good Earl': http://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00112052&tree=LEO. Hereinafter cited as Genealogics Website.
  3. [S1490] Genealogics Website, online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Katherine Borthwick: http://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00112055&tree=LEO