Thomas Fitz Maurice 1st Baron of Kerry and Lixnaw1

M, #15722, d. 29 June 1280
FatherMaurice Fitz Thomas1 b. c 1197, d. b 1253
Last Edited6 Jul 2020
     Thomas Fitz Maurice 1st Baron of Kerry and Lixnaw died on 29 June 1280.1

Family
Child

Citations

  1. [S757] Compiled by Carl Boyer 3rd, Medieval English Ancestors of Certain Americans: Many of the English Ancestral Lines Prior to 1300 of those Colonial Americans with known Royal Ancestry but Fully Developed in all Possible Lines (PO Box 220333, Santa Clarita, CA 91322-0333: Carl Boyer 3rd, 2001), p. 213, ROCHE of FERMOY 1. Hereinafter cited as Boyer [2001] Med English Ancestors.
  2. [S1490] Genealogics Website (oiginated by Leo van de Pas, continued by Ian Fettes), online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Maurice FitzThomas: https://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00715270&tree=LEO. Hereinafter cited as Genealogics Website.

Maurice Fitz Thomas1

M, #15723, b. circa 1197, d. before 1253
Last Edited12 Sep 2001
     Maurice Fitz Thomas was born circa 1197.1
Maurice Fitz Thomas died before 1253.1

Family
Child

Citations

  1. [S757] Compiled by Carl Boyer 3rd, Medieval English Ancestors of Certain Americans: Many of the English Ancestral Lines Prior to 1300 of those Colonial Americans with known Royal Ancestry but Fully Developed in all Possible Lines (PO Box 220333, Santa Clarita, CA 91322-0333: Carl Boyer 3rd, 2001), p. 213, ROCHE of FERMOY 1. Hereinafter cited as Boyer [2001] Med English Ancestors.

Piers de Ros1

M, #15724, d. before 1130
ReferenceGAV24 EDV24
Last Edited29 Sep 2002
     Piers de Ros married Adeline Espec, daughter of William Espec Lord of Helmsley (or Hamlake).1,2

Piers de Ros died before 1130.1,2
     GAV-24 EDV-24 GKJ-24.

; PIERS de ROS (a name that seems to have been taken from Ros, Holderness, E Riding of Yorks); steward to Count d'Aumale (feudal Ld of Holderness); m Adeline, 3rd and yst sis and coheir of Walter Espec, feudal Ld of Helmsley, Yorks, and Wark, Northumberland, and d by 1130.2

Family

Adeline Espec
Children

Citations

  1. [S757] Compiled by Carl Boyer 3rd, Medieval English Ancestors of Certain Americans: Many of the English Ancestral Lines Prior to 1300 of those Colonial Americans with known Royal Ancestry but Fully Developed in all Possible Lines (PO Box 220333, Santa Clarita, CA 91322-0333: Carl Boyer 3rd, 2001), p. 213, de ROS 1. Hereinafter cited as Boyer [2001] Med English Ancestors.
  2. [S1396] Burke's Peerage & Gentry Web Site, online http://www.burkes-peerage.net/sites/peerageandgentry/sitepages/home.asp, de Ros Family Page. Hereinafter cited as Burke's Peerage & Gentry Web Site.
  3. [S757] Compiled by Carl Boyer 3rd, Boyer [2001] Med English Ancestors, p. 213, de ROS 1:i.

Adeline Espec1

F, #15725
FatherWilliam Espec Lord of Helmsley (or Hamlake)1 d. c 1130
ReferenceGAV24 EDV24
Last Edited14 Feb 2003
     Adeline Espec married Piers de Ros.1,2

     GAV-24 EDV-24.

Family

Piers de Ros d. b 1130
Children

Citations

  1. [S757] Compiled by Carl Boyer 3rd, Medieval English Ancestors of Certain Americans: Many of the English Ancestral Lines Prior to 1300 of those Colonial Americans with known Royal Ancestry but Fully Developed in all Possible Lines (PO Box 220333, Santa Clarita, CA 91322-0333: Carl Boyer 3rd, 2001), p. 213, de ROS 1. Hereinafter cited as Boyer [2001] Med English Ancestors.
  2. [S1396] Burke's Peerage & Gentry Web Site, online http://www.burkes-peerage.net/sites/peerageandgentry/sitepages/home.asp, de Ros Family Page. Hereinafter cited as Burke's Peerage & Gentry Web Site.
  3. [S757] Compiled by Carl Boyer 3rd, Boyer [2001] Med English Ancestors, p. 213, de ROS 1:i.

William Espec Lord of Helmsley (or Hamlake)1

M, #15726, d. circa 1130
ReferenceGAV25 EDV25
Last Edited14 Feb 2003
     William Espec Lord of Helmsley (or Hamlake) died circa 1130.1
     GAV-25 EDV-25. He was feudal Lord of Helmsley, Yorkshire, and Wark, Northumberland.2

Family
Child

Citations

  1. [S757] Compiled by Carl Boyer 3rd, Medieval English Ancestors of Certain Americans: Many of the English Ancestral Lines Prior to 1300 of those Colonial Americans with known Royal Ancestry but Fully Developed in all Possible Lines (PO Box 220333, Santa Clarita, CA 91322-0333: Carl Boyer 3rd, 2001), p. 213, de ROS 1. Hereinafter cited as Boyer [2001] Med English Ancestors.
  2. [S1396] Burke's Peerage & Gentry Web Site, online http://www.burkes-peerage.net/sites/peerageandgentry/sitepages/home.asp, de Ros Family Page. Hereinafter cited as Burke's Peerage & Gentry Web Site.

Everard de Ros1

M, #15727, d. circa 1153
FatherPiers de Ros1 d. b 1130
MotherAdeline Espec1
Last Edited11 Aug 2020
     Everard de Ros married Eustache (?)1,2

Everard de Ros died circa 1153.1,2

Family

Eustache (?)

Citations

  1. [S757] Compiled by Carl Boyer 3rd, Medieval English Ancestors of Certain Americans: Many of the English Ancestral Lines Prior to 1300 of those Colonial Americans with known Royal Ancestry but Fully Developed in all Possible Lines (PO Box 220333, Santa Clarita, CA 91322-0333: Carl Boyer 3rd, 2001), p. 213, de ROS 1:i. Hereinafter cited as Boyer [2001] Med English Ancestors.
  2. [S1396] Burke's Peerage & Gentry Web Site, online http://www.burkes-peerage.net/sites/peerageandgentry/sitepages/home.asp, de Ros Family Page. Hereinafter cited as Burke's Peerage & Gentry Web Site.

Walter de Ros1

M, #15729
FatherRobert de Ros1 d. bt 1162 - 1163
MotherSibyl de Valognes1 d. bt 1212 - 1218
Last Edited12 Sep 2001

Citations

  1. [S757] Compiled by Carl Boyer 3rd, Medieval English Ancestors of Certain Americans: Many of the English Ancestral Lines Prior to 1300 of those Colonial Americans with known Royal Ancestry but Fully Developed in all Possible Lines (PO Box 220333, Santa Clarita, CA 91322-0333: Carl Boyer 3rd, 2001), pp. 213-214, de ROS 2:ii. Hereinafter cited as Boyer [2001] Med English Ancestors.

Piers de Ros Archdeacon of Carlisle1

M, #15730, d. 1196
FatherRobert de Ros1 d. bt 1162 - 1163
MotherSibyl de Valognes1 d. bt 1212 - 1218
Last Edited12 Sep 2001
     Piers de Ros Archdeacon of Carlisle died in 1196.1

Citations

  1. [S757] Compiled by Carl Boyer 3rd, Medieval English Ancestors of Certain Americans: Many of the English Ancestral Lines Prior to 1300 of those Colonial Americans with known Royal Ancestry but Fully Developed in all Possible Lines (PO Box 220333, Santa Clarita, CA 91322-0333: Carl Boyer 3rd, 2001), pp. 213-214, de ROS 2:iii. Hereinafter cited as Boyer [2001] Med English Ancestors.

Piers de Ros1

M, #15731
FatherEverard de Ros1 b. b 1166, d. b 29 Sep 1183
MotherRoese Trussebut1 b. c 1151, d. b 29 Sep 1196
Last Edited12 Sep 2001

Citations

  1. [S757] Compiled by Carl Boyer 3rd, Medieval English Ancestors of Certain Americans: Many of the English Ancestral Lines Prior to 1300 of those Colonial Americans with known Royal Ancestry but Fully Developed in all Possible Lines (PO Box 220333, Santa Clarita, CA 91322-0333: Carl Boyer 3rd, 2001), p. 214, de ROS 3:ii. Hereinafter cited as Boyer [2001] Med English Ancestors.

Joan de Ros1

F, #15732
FatherEverard de Ros1 b. b 1166, d. b 29 Sep 1183
MotherRoese Trussebut1 b. c 1151, d. b 29 Sep 1196
Last Edited12 Sep 2001
     Joan de Ros married Stephen de Meinil.1

Family

Stephen de Meinil

Citations

  1. [S757] Compiled by Carl Boyer 3rd, Medieval English Ancestors of Certain Americans: Many of the English Ancestral Lines Prior to 1300 of those Colonial Americans with known Royal Ancestry but Fully Developed in all Possible Lines (PO Box 220333, Santa Clarita, CA 91322-0333: Carl Boyer 3rd, 2001), p. 214, de ROS 3:iii. Hereinafter cited as Boyer [2001] Med English Ancestors.

Robert de Ros of Wyville and Gedney, Lincolnshire1,2

M, #15734, d. 1311
FatherSir Robert de Ros Lord of Helmsley and Belvoir3,2 b. c 1223, d. 16 Jun 1285
MotherIsabel d'Albini of Belvoir Castle3,2 b. c 1233, d. 15 Jun 1301
Last Edited8 Jun 2006
     Robert de Ros of Wyville and Gedney, Lincolnshire married Erneburge (?)2

Robert de Ros of Wyville and Gedney, Lincolnshire died in 1311.2

Family

Erneburge (?)
Child

Citations

  1. [S757] Compiled by Carl Boyer 3rd, Medieval English Ancestors of Certain Americans: Many of the English Ancestral Lines Prior to 1300 of those Colonial Americans with known Royal Ancestry but Fully Developed in all Possible Lines (PO Box 220333, Santa Clarita, CA 91322-0333: Carl Boyer 3rd, 2001), pp. 216*217, de ROS 6:ii. Hereinafter cited as Boyer [2001] Med English Ancestors.
  2. [S1784] Douglas Richardson, "Richardson email 29 July 2005 "Re: Descendants of Sir Richard de Lucy and Rohese of Boulogne"," e-mail message from e-mail address (https://groups.google.com/g/soc.genealogy.medieval/c/F9_d7JZUuk0/m/5jgR9n064yQJ) to e-mail address, 29 July 2005. Hereinafter cited as "Richardson email 29 July 2005."
  3. [S757] Compiled by Carl Boyer 3rd, Boyer [2001] Med English Ancestors, pp. 216*217, de ROS 6.
  4. [S1936] John P. Ravilious, "Ravilious email 25 Aug 2005: "Robert II of France to Maud de Bernake (was CP Addition:..)"," e-mail message from e-mail address (unknown address) to e-mail address, 25 Aug 2005. Hereinafter cited as "Ravilious email 25 Aug 2005."

John de Ros1

M, #15735
FatherSir Robert de Ros Lord of Helmsley and Belvoir1 b. c 1223, d. 16 Jun 1285
MotherIsabel d'Albini of Belvoir Castle1 b. c 1233, d. 15 Jun 1301
Last Edited7 Oct 2007
     John de Ros was possible Bishop of Carlisle.1

Family
Child

Citations

  1. [S757] Compiled by Carl Boyer 3rd, Medieval English Ancestors of Certain Americans: Many of the English Ancestral Lines Prior to 1300 of those Colonial Americans with known Royal Ancestry but Fully Developed in all Possible Lines (PO Box 220333, Santa Clarita, CA 91322-0333: Carl Boyer 3rd, 2001), pp. 216*217, de ROS 6:iii. Hereinafter cited as Boyer [2001] Med English Ancestors.
  2. [S2131] John P. Ravilious, "Ravilious email 26 Jan 2007: "Lucy (de Ros ?) de Audley, wife of Sir William de Ryther"," e-mail message from e-mail address (unknown address) to e-mail address, 26 Jan 2007, Ravilious speculates: "The texts of two interesting fines have been noted which, if borne out, would indicate Lucy was a de Ros, and apparently daughter of John de Ros, possibly the son (more likely a younger brother) of Sir Robert de Ros of Helmsley (d. 1285), the son of Sir William de Ross and his wife Lucy.". Hereinafter cited as "Ravilious email 26 Jan 2007."

Nicholas de Ros1

M, #15736
FatherSir Robert de Ros Lord of Helmsley and Belvoir1 b. c 1223, d. 16 Jun 1285
MotherIsabel d'Albini of Belvoir Castle1 b. c 1233, d. 15 Jun 1301
Last Edited13 Sep 2001

Citations

  1. [S757] Compiled by Carl Boyer 3rd, Medieval English Ancestors of Certain Americans: Many of the English Ancestral Lines Prior to 1300 of those Colonial Americans with known Royal Ancestry but Fully Developed in all Possible Lines (PO Box 220333, Santa Clarita, CA 91322-0333: Carl Boyer 3rd, 2001), pp. 216*217, de ROS 6:iv. Hereinafter cited as Boyer [2001] Med English Ancestors.

Sybil/Sibilla de Longchamps1,2,3

F, #15737, d. before 1261
ReferenceEDV21
Last Edited7 Oct 2020
     Sybil/Sibilla de Longchamps married John de Vaux of Freiston, co. Lincoln, son of Sir Oliver de Vaux and Petronilla Croun.1,2,3

Sybil/Sibilla de Longchamps died before 1261.2
     EDV-21 GKJ-21.

; van de Pas cites: Descendants of Leofric of Mercia 2002 , Ravilious, John & Rosie Bevan.3

Family

John de Vaux of Freiston, co. Lincoln d. 1287
Children

Citations

  1. [S757] Compiled by Carl Boyer 3rd, Medieval English Ancestors of Certain Americans: Many of the English Ancestral Lines Prior to 1300 of those Colonial Americans with known Royal Ancestry but Fully Developed in all Possible Lines (PO Box 220333, Santa Clarita, CA 91322-0333: Carl Boyer 3rd, 2001), pp. 217-218, de ROS 7. Hereinafter cited as Boyer [2001] Med English Ancestors.
  2. [S1396] Burke's Peerage & Gentry Web Site, online http://www.burkes-peerage.net/sites/peerageandgentry/sitepages/home.asp, Vaux of Harrowden Family Page. Hereinafter cited as Burke's Peerage & Gentry Web Site.
  3. [S1490] Genealogics Website (oiginated by Leo van de Pas, continued by Ian Fettes), online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Sibyl de Longchamps: http://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00398014&tree=LEO. Hereinafter cited as Genealogics Website.

Sir Thomas de Arundel1

M, #15738
Last Edited13 Sep 2001
     Sir Thomas de Arundel married Margery de Badlesmere, daughter of Bartholomew de Badlesmere 1st Lord Badlesmere and Margaret de Clare, circa 6 March 1351.1,2

Family

Margery de Badlesmere b. 1306, d. 18 Oct 1363

Citations

  1. [S757] Compiled by Carl Boyer 3rd, Medieval English Ancestors of Certain Americans: Many of the English Ancestral Lines Prior to 1300 of those Colonial Americans with known Royal Ancestry but Fully Developed in all Possible Lines (PO Box 220333, Santa Clarita, CA 91322-0333: Carl Boyer 3rd, 2001), pp. 217-218, de ROS 7:i. Hereinafter cited as Boyer [2001] Med English Ancestors.
  2. [S1396] Burke's Peerage & Gentry Web Site, online http://www.burkes-peerage.net/sites/peerageandgentry/sitepages/home.asp, de Ros Family Page. Hereinafter cited as Burke's Peerage & Gentry Web Site.

John de Ros1

M, #15740, d. 1339
FatherSir William de Ros 1st Lord de Ros of Helmsley1 b. c 1255, d. 15 Aug 1316
MotherMaud de Vaux1 b. c 1261, d. b 1316
Last Edited1 Oct 2006
     John de Ros married Margaret de Goushill, daughter of Sir Ralph de Gousille Lord and Hawise Fitz Warin,
; her 2nd husband.1,2
John de Ros died in 1339.2
     He was Admiral.1

Family

Margaret de Goushill b. 12 May 1294, d. 29 Jul 1349

Citations

  1. [S757] Compiled by Carl Boyer 3rd, Medieval English Ancestors of Certain Americans: Many of the English Ancestral Lines Prior to 1300 of those Colonial Americans with known Royal Ancestry but Fully Developed in all Possible Lines (PO Box 220333, Santa Clarita, CA 91322-0333: Carl Boyer 3rd, 2001), pp. 217-218, de ROS 7:ii. Hereinafter cited as Boyer [2001] Med English Ancestors.
  2. [S1971] John P. Ravilious, "Ravilious email 3 Oct 2005: "Ancestry of the Lords Fauconberg: Thomas fitz Richard de Cuckney"," e-mail message from e-mail address (unknown address) to e-mail address, 3 Oct 2005. Hereinafter cited as "Ravilious email 3 Oct 2005."

Thomas de Ros1

M, #15741
FatherSir William de Ros 1st Lord de Ros of Helmsley1 b. c 1255, d. 15 Aug 1316
MotherMaud de Vaux1 b. c 1261, d. b 1316
Last Edited13 Sep 2001

Citations

  1. [S757] Compiled by Carl Boyer 3rd, Medieval English Ancestors of Certain Americans: Many of the English Ancestral Lines Prior to 1300 of those Colonial Americans with known Royal Ancestry but Fully Developed in all Possible Lines (PO Box 220333, Santa Clarita, CA 91322-0333: Carl Boyer 3rd, 2001), pp. 217-218, de ROS 7:iii. Hereinafter cited as Boyer [2001] Med English Ancestors.

Margaret de Ros1

F, #15742
FatherSir William de Ros 1st Lord de Ros of Helmsley1 b. c 1255, d. 15 Aug 1316
MotherMaud de Vaux1 b. c 1261, d. b 1316
Last Edited13 Sep 2001

Citations

  1. [S757] Compiled by Carl Boyer 3rd, Medieval English Ancestors of Certain Americans: Many of the English Ancestral Lines Prior to 1300 of those Colonial Americans with known Royal Ancestry but Fully Developed in all Possible Lines (PO Box 220333, Santa Clarita, CA 91322-0333: Carl Boyer 3rd, 2001), pp. 217-218, de ROS 7:v. Hereinafter cited as Boyer [2001] Med English Ancestors.

Matilda de Ros1

F, #15743
FatherSir William de Ros 1st Lord de Ros of Helmsley1 b. c 1255, d. 15 Aug 1316
MotherMaud de Vaux1 b. c 1261, d. b 1316
Last Edited13 Sep 2001

Citations

  1. [S757] Compiled by Carl Boyer 3rd, Medieval English Ancestors of Certain Americans: Many of the English Ancestral Lines Prior to 1300 of those Colonial Americans with known Royal Ancestry but Fully Developed in all Possible Lines (PO Box 220333, Santa Clarita, CA 91322-0333: Carl Boyer 3rd, 2001), pp. 217-218, de ROS 7:vi. Hereinafter cited as Boyer [2001] Med English Ancestors.

Tursdin Fitz Richard1

M, #15744
FatherOsborn (Osbert) Fitz Richard of Richard's Castle, co. Hereford1 b. c 1040, d. a 1100
MotherNesta ferch Gruffyd (?) of North Wales1 b. bt 1055 - 1057
Last Edited13 Sep 2001

Citations

  1. [S757] Compiled by Carl Boyer 3rd, Medieval English Ancestors of Certain Americans: Many of the English Ancestral Lines Prior to 1300 of those Colonial Americans with known Royal Ancestry but Fully Developed in all Possible Lines (PO Box 220333, Santa Clarita, CA 91322-0333: Carl Boyer 3rd, 2001), p. 220, de SAY 2:ii. Hereinafter cited as Boyer [2001] Med English Ancestors.

Hugh Fitz Osbern (de Say)1

M, #15745, d. 1140
FatherOsborn (Osbert) Fitz Richard of Richard's Castle, co. Hereford1,2 b. c 1040, d. a 1100
MotherNesta ferch Gruffyd (?) of North Wales1,3 b. bt 1055 - 1057
Last Edited23 Dec 2020
     Hugh Fitz Osbern (de Say) married Eustace de Say.1

Hugh Fitz Osbern (de Say) died in 1140.1

Family

Eustace de Say
Children

Citations

  1. [S757] Compiled by Carl Boyer 3rd, Medieval English Ancestors of Certain Americans: Many of the English Ancestral Lines Prior to 1300 of those Colonial Americans with known Royal Ancestry but Fully Developed in all Possible Lines (PO Box 220333, Santa Clarita, CA 91322-0333: Carl Boyer 3rd, 2001), p. 221, de SAY 3. Hereinafter cited as Boyer [2001] Med English Ancestors.
  2. [S1490] Genealogics Website (oiginated by Leo van de Pas, continued by Ian Fettes), online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Osbern FitzRichard: https://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00027753&tree=LEO. Hereinafter cited as Genealogics Website.
  3. [S1490] Genealogics Website, online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Nesta ferch Gruffydd: https://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00027752&tree=LEO
  4. [S757] Compiled by Carl Boyer 3rd, Boyer [2001] Med English Ancestors, p. 221, de SAY 3:i.

Eustace de Say1

F, #15746
Last Edited6 Oct 2020
     Eustace de Say married Hugh Fitz Osbern (de Say), son of Osborn (Osbert) Fitz Richard of Richard's Castle, co. Hereford and Nesta ferch Gruffyd (?) of North Wales.1

Family

Hugh Fitz Osbern (de Say) d. 1140
Children

Citations

  1. [S757] Compiled by Carl Boyer 3rd, Medieval English Ancestors of Certain Americans: Many of the English Ancestral Lines Prior to 1300 of those Colonial Americans with known Royal Ancestry but Fully Developed in all Possible Lines (PO Box 220333, Santa Clarita, CA 91322-0333: Carl Boyer 3rd, 2001), p. 221, de SAY 3. Hereinafter cited as Boyer [2001] Med English Ancestors.
  2. [S757] Compiled by Carl Boyer 3rd, Boyer [2001] Med English Ancestors, p. 221, de SAY 3:i.

Hugh de Say1,2

M, #15747, b. circa 1150, d. before 29 September 1196
FatherHugh de Say of Richards Castle1,2 b. b 1176, d. b 29 Sep 1190
MotherLucy (Lucia) de Clifford1,2
Last Edited6 Oct 2020
     Hugh de Say married Mabel de Marmion, daughter of Robert II de Marmion Sire de Fontenay-le-Marmion and Milicent de Réthel.1,2,3
Hugh de Say was born circa 1150.2
Hugh de Say died before 29 September 1196; van de Pas says d. ca 1197.4,2
      ; per van de Pas: [quote] He was keeper of Norton Castle, in what is now county Radnor, and, in 1194, fought under Richard I in Normandy. In 1195 he was in charge of the castle of Bleddfa in the March, now county Radnor. In 1196, he and Roger de Mortimer, of Wigmore, were defeated near Radnor by the Welsh prince Rhys. Also in 1196, he was assessed to the third acutage of the army in Normandy, and seems to have been living in the early part of 1197, but died before Michaelmas that year. His widow Mabel Marmion married again but died before Michaelmas 1210. [end quote]2

; van de Pas cites: 1. The Complete Peerage, 1936 , Doubleday, H.A. & Lord Howard de Walden, Reference: IX 258
2. Descendants of Leofric of Mercia 2002 , Ravilious, John & Rosie Bevan.2

Family

Mabel de Marmion d. b 1211
Child

Citations

  1. [S757] Compiled by Carl Boyer 3rd, Medieval English Ancestors of Certain Americans: Many of the English Ancestral Lines Prior to 1300 of those Colonial Americans with known Royal Ancestry but Fully Developed in all Possible Lines (PO Box 220333, Santa Clarita, CA 91322-0333: Carl Boyer 3rd, 2001), p. 221, de SAY 4:i. Hereinafter cited as Boyer [2001] Med English Ancestors.
  2. [S1490] Genealogics Website (oiginated by Leo van de Pas, continued by Ian Fettes), online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Hugh de Say: http://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00398071&tree=LEO. Hereinafter cited as Genealogics Website.
  3. [S1490] Genealogics Website, online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Mabel de Marmion: http://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00398072&tree=LEO
  4. [S757] Compiled by Carl Boyer 3rd, Boyer [2001] Med English Ancestors, p. 221, de SAY 5.
  5. [S757] Compiled by Carl Boyer 3rd, Boyer [2001] Med English Ancestors, p. 221, de SAY 5:i.
  6. [S2280] Racines et Histoire, online http://racineshistoire.free.fr/LGN/LGN-frameset.html, http://racineshistoire.free.fr/LGN/PDF/Ferrers.pdf: p. 2. Hereinafter cited as Racines et Histoire.
  7. [S1490] Genealogics Website, online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Margaret de Say: https://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00398076&tree=LEO

Mabel de Marmion1,2

F, #15748, d. before 1211
FatherRobert II de Marmion Sire de Fontenay-le-Marmion3,2 b. c 1095, d. bt 1144 - 1145
MotherMilicent de Réthel4,2 b. bt 1121 - 1123, d. a 1155
Last Edited6 Oct 2020
     Mabel de Marmion married Hugh de Say, son of Hugh de Say of Richards Castle and Lucy (Lucia) de Clifford.1,5,2

Mabel de Marmion died before 1211.2
      ; van de Pas cites: Descendants of Leofric of Mercia 2002 , Ravilious, John & Rosie Bevan.2

Family

Hugh de Say b. c 1150, d. b 29 Sep 1196
Child

Citations

  1. [S757] Compiled by Carl Boyer 3rd, Medieval English Ancestors of Certain Americans: Many of the English Ancestral Lines Prior to 1300 of those Colonial Americans with known Royal Ancestry but Fully Developed in all Possible Lines (PO Box 220333, Santa Clarita, CA 91322-0333: Carl Boyer 3rd, 2001), p. 221, de SAY 4:i. Hereinafter cited as Boyer [2001] Med English Ancestors.
  2. [S1490] Genealogics Website (oiginated by Leo van de Pas, continued by Ian Fettes), online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Mabel de Marmion: http://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00398072&tree=LEO. Hereinafter cited as Genealogics Website.
  3. [S757] Compiled by Carl Boyer 3rd, Boyer [2001] Med English Ancestors, p. 221, de SAY 5.
  4. [S1490] Genealogics Website, online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Milicent de Rethel: http://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00199646&tree=LEO
  5. [S1490] Genealogics Website, online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Hugh de Say: http://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00398071&tree=LEO
  6. [S757] Compiled by Carl Boyer 3rd, Boyer [2001] Med English Ancestors, p. 221, de SAY 5:i.
  7. [S1490] Genealogics Website, online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Margaret de Say: https://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00398076&tree=LEO

Luch de Say1

F, #15749
FatherHugh de Say of Richards Castle1 b. b 1176, d. b 29 Sep 1190
MotherLucy (Lucia) de Clifford1
Last Edited13 Sep 2001
     Luch de Say married Thomas Ardern.1

Family

Thomas Ardern

Citations

  1. [S757] Compiled by Carl Boyer 3rd, Medieval English Ancestors of Certain Americans: Many of the English Ancestral Lines Prior to 1300 of those Colonial Americans with known Royal Ancestry but Fully Developed in all Possible Lines (PO Box 220333, Santa Clarita, CA 91322-0333: Carl Boyer 3rd, 2001), p. 221, de SAY 4:ii. Hereinafter cited as Boyer [2001] Med English Ancestors.